S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

[Ganelon]

I have to admit Gyrlanders shit is hilarious

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I put my vote back on banana because.
1)my other vote was not serious, it was just to sheep with Sen.
2)banana had just posted that he liked the votes currently if it was end of day. So I changed it.
3)I didn't realise you voted him I though you was joking due to some sorta of spoiler troll post banana made
4)banana is my big scum read, I don't have anyone else I can put a serious vote onto until I reread people.

I have a theory because of 1). Perhaps SJ was planning to simply sheep Sen onto Banana, since Sen had been tunnelling Banana for a long time. That would have allowed SJ to "wash his hands" from the poor banana's blood. It's really strange to keep a "not serious" vote for so long when you say that "[you] don't have anyone else [you] can put a serious vote on until [you] reread people" in 4).

I say: off with SJ's head, at least from post #2943.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I do find it curious why Gry is defending SJ so hard when he said this:

Valid (click the blue arrows to see the quote in the quote from Banana's post). It would seem Gyrlander is not a bad lynch at all, but not right now.

[Gyrlander]

Fair... but you haven't explained much why they were scummy and why they should die.

Come on MM I already explained lynching null > town 1389213821908312 times.

[Ganelon]

Banana is not null by any means lol. His play makes perfect sense as Doc. And no sense as any other role apart from Jester King - and that’s if he knows his alignment, which he couldn’t have known on d1

[Marshmallow Marshall]

"You're gonna get us killed, or worse, EXPELLED"

Not game related, more like an inside joke:
@Ganelon does that remind you of someone ;)

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Come on MM I already explained lynching null > town 1389213821908312 times.

So you have no scumreads whatsoever, only townreads and nullreads? If you do actually have scumreads, then why would not care about who dies between SJ and people who are actual scumreads to you?

[Gyrlander]

So you have no scumreads whatsoever, only townreads and nullreads? If you do actually have scumreads, then why would not care about who dies between SJ and people who are actual scumreads to you?

I don't the end bye.

[Ganelon]

Not game related, more like an inside joke:
@Ganelon does that remind you of someone ;)

Lmao is that an actual post that happened this game? If so it’s hilarious

[Gyrlander]

Banana is not null by any means lol. His play makes perfect sense as Doc. And no sense as any other role apart from Jester King - and that’s if he knows his alignment, which he couldn’t have known on d1

Explain me how his play makes perfect sense as Doc if he actually revealed his role during the troll massclaim he did D1.

[Ganelon]

I don't the end bye.

You have no scunreads? Why have you made no attempt to have any? There’s quite the pile to choose from

[Ganelon]

Explain me how his play makes perfect sense as Doc if he actually revealed his role during the troll massclaim he did D1.

He’s making himself scummy so he doesn’t get nightkilled. Frankly I can’t see a scum motivation behind what he’s doing. All he’s doing is discrediting himself... that’s not scum ever

[Marshmallow Marshall]

With the amount of people voting me, I might as well post this now. I wrote it on early D2, but hoped I wouldn't need to post it today for people to understand my lead on Light so that the killer wouldn't want to target me. Sadly, it looks like Light himself didn't understand it, since he's voting me... @Light_Yagami if you want me to say your role publicly, feel free to ask for it.



I hardclaim Sleuth.

I have checked Renegade and Light_Yagami last night. My feedback was that they are both Insane, one of them being the Asylum Counsellor and the other being [REDACTED] (if he wants to claim, he can do it himself). Since Renegade flipped, I could know that my feedback was very likely right (it's really unlikely to have one piece of sleuth feedback be true if you're Insane). I then sent (on D2) a request to the host so that my two targets of last night would know that they are of the same alignment (which results in Light getting the confirmation of it alone, since Renegade is dead).

I will win with town, and have been playing as if I had been pure green town for all game, for three reasons:
- I prefer town to scum, and anyone who knows me even just a bit can confirm that.
- If I had been a Lunatic, there was the possibility I would be town, so I had to work for town. And in the event I'd be scum, I would have some towncred. I know I'm not one because Light got my feedback telling him that he's of Renegade's alignment.
- The Sleuth role is infinitely more beneficial to Town than to scum, and only needs to survive, so it can be protected by townies and help them greatly.

An additional reason now would be that I fear the killer, and since I just need to survive, it's not so great if there's someone killing every night.

I only need some form of protection at night. With the amount of protective claims, that shouldn't be an issue, eh?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Lmao is that an actual post that happened this game? If so it’s hilarious

Lol that's from Harry Potter, one of the few things I actually remember from it because it's great

[Ganelon]

I actually buy this claim because you stated Banana was a neutral in a somewhat out of context fashion at some point.

[Gyrlander]

You have no scunreads? Why have you made no attempt to have any? There’s quite the pile to choose from

That's not my playstyle.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I don't the end bye.

Then you either are really lazy, or you are scum. It's not as if noone had posted this game, hm?

[Gyrlander]

With the amount of people voting me, I might as well post this now. I wrote it on early D2, but hoped I wouldn't need to post it today for people to understand my lead on Light so that the killer wouldn't want to target me. Sadly, it looks like Light himself didn't understand it, since he's voting me... @Light_Yagami if you want me to say your role publicly, feel free to ask for it.



I hardclaim Sleuth.

I have checked Renegade and Light_Yagami last night. My feedback was that they are both Insane, one of them being the Asylum Counsellor and the other being [REDACTED] (if he wants to claim, he can do it himself). Since Renegade flipped, I could know that my feedback was very likely right (it's really unlikely to have one piece of sleuth feedback be true if you're Insane). I then sent (on D2) a request to the host so that my two targets of last night would know that they are of the same alignment (which results in Light getting the confirmation of it alone, since Renegade is dead).

I will win with town, and have been playing as if I had been pure green town for all game, for three reasons:
- I prefer town to scum, and anyone who knows me even just a bit can confirm that.
- If I had been a Lunatic, there was the possibility I would be town, so I had to work for town. And in the event I'd be scum, I would have some towncred. I know I'm not one because Light got my feedback telling him that he's of Renegade's alignment.
- The Sleuth role is infinitely more beneficial to Town than to scum, and only needs to survive, so it can be protected by townies and help them greatly.

An additional reason now would be that I fear the killer, and since I just need to survive, it's not so great if there's someone killing every night.

I only need some form of protection at night. With the amount of protective claims, that shouldn't be an issue, eh?

He's Bus Driver mate. We know.

[Gyrlander]

He’s making himself scummy so he doesn’t get nightkilled. Frankly I can’t see a scum motivation behind what he’s doing. All he’s doing is discrediting himself... that’s not scum ever

He could have been shot by Vigilante. Plus there aren't much directed Night Kills in this setup so that isn't very clear.

[Gyrlander]

Then you either are really lazy, or you are scum. It's not as if noone had posted this game, hm?

That's not my playstyle.

[Ganelon]

I didn’t want to have to bring this up bc I’d rather banana himself said it but you’ll notice Banana didn’t want to vote Frinckles. I’m supremely confident he believed that frinckles was town and trolling (I.e. what he is doing), which would explain his willingness to die for Frinckles. In fact he said something to that account - he didn’t want to explain why he’d be willing to die instead of Frinckles but that he wanted to WIFOM the duck out of the game

[Gyrlander]

I didn’t want to have to bring this up bc I’d rather banana himself said it but you’ll notice Banana didn’t want to vote Frinckles. I’m supremely confident he believed that frinckles was town and trolling (I.e. what he is doing), which would explain his willingness to die for Frinckles. In fact he said something to that account - he didn’t want to explain why he’d be willing to die instead of Frinckles but that he wanted to WIFOM the duck out of the game

Pathetic. Sacrificing yourself (WHICH YOU KNOW YOU ARE TOWN) for someone you're not sure is Town (and actually flipped scum kappa). Still, he hasn't responded to my post so we shouldn't speculate.

A ye, I k I sme o to t exe of sing elf f ton re bt th bee I sid ine. na ha sh t in a oth es.

[Ganelon]

Uh... what langauge is that?

[Ganelon]

Btw I think someone is lying because there’s no way literally zero people are lunatics. It just doesn’t happen.

[Gyrlander]

Btw I think someone is lying because there’s no way literally zero people are lunatics. It just doesn’t happen.

I'm glad you realised.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

He's Bus Driver mate. We know.

Oh. Well, that's what my feedback said, so I confirm him :P you can also see I wrote that "he wasn't lunatic" when he confirmed he was visiting two people. So, I haven't read much, but I assume I was bussed, since I recieved the "visited" feedback and since he was so adamant to ask me if I had been visited.
@Light_Yagami unvote me >=| I'm literally confirmed and I'm helping the Town, notably by confirming your ungrateful ass lol

[Light_Yagami]

Oh. Well, that's what my feedback said, so I confirm him :P you can also see I wrote that "he wasn't lunatic" when he confirmed he was visiting two people. So, I haven't read much, but I assume I was bussed, since I recieved the "visited" feedback and since he was so adamant to ask me if I had been visited.
@Light_Yagami unvote me >=| I'm literally confirmed and I'm helping the Town, notably by confirming your ungrateful ass lol

Not Ungrateful

-vote unvote

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Btw I think someone is lying because there’s no way literally zero people are lunatics. It just doesn’t happen.

Probably, indeed. Outside of Light and myself mutually confirming our roles, is there anyone who's excluded from being a Lunatic? I don't think so, but I could have missed it.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Spoiler : explaination :

With the amount of people voting me, I might as well post this now. I wrote it on early D2, but hoped I wouldn't need to post it today for people to understand my lead on Light so that the killer wouldn't want to target me. Sadly, it looks like Light himself didn't understand it, since he's voting me... @Light_Yagami if you want me to say your role publicly, feel free to ask for it.



I hardclaim Sleuth.

I have checked Renegade and Light_Yagami last night. My feedback was that they are both Insane, one of them being the Asylum Counsellor and the other being [REDACTED] (if he wants to claim, he can do it himself). Since Renegade flipped, I could know that my feedback was very likely right (it's really unlikely to have one piece of sleuth feedback be true if you're Insane). I then sent (on D2) a request to the host so that my two targets of last night would know that they are of the same alignment (which results in Light getting the confirmation of it alone, since Renegade is dead).

I will win with town, and have been playing as if I had been pure green town for all game, for three reasons:
- I prefer town to scum, and anyone who knows me even just a bit can confirm that.
- If I had been a Lunatic, there was the possibility I would be town, so I had to work for town. And in the event I'd be scum, I would have some towncred. I know I'm not one because Light got my feedback telling him that he's of Renegade's alignment.
- The Sleuth role is infinitely more beneficial to Town than to scum, and only needs to survive, so it can be protected by townies and help them greatly.

An additional reason now would be that I fear the killer, and since I just need to survive, it's not so great if there's someone killing every night.

I only need some form of protection at night. With the amount of protective claims, that shouldn't be an issue, eh?

@Sen @secondpassing Sorry for mass pinging, but dying isn't exactly in my plans :P please unvote.

Also Light, my messages implied in a way that is painfully obvious to someone who has the feedback that I was the Sleuth confirming you that you were town like Renegade. Did you seriously not understand lol?

[Light_Yagami]

@Sen @secondpassing Sorry for mass pinging, but dying isn't exactly in my plans :P please unvote.

Also Light, my messages implied in a way that is painfully obvious to someone who has the feedback that I was the Sleuth confirming you that you were town like Renegade. Did you seriously not understand lol?

IDK.. Man IDK.. Im Just Waking Up..

[Marshmallow Marshall]

That's not my playstyle.

Right, being so lazy isn't your style... but not committing to original scumreads and pushes? That's more like it, hm?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Pathetic. Sacrificing yourself (WHICH YOU KNOW YOU ARE TOWN) for someone you're not sure is Town (and actually flipped scum kappa). Still, he hasn't responded to my post so we shouldn't speculate.

A ye, I k I sme o to t exe of sing elf f ton re bt th bee I sid ine. na ha sh t in a oth es.

GYR IS OPN WLF ING !!!

what is that supposed to be though lol

[Light_Yagami]

GYR IS OPN WLF ING !!!

what is that supposed to be though lol

Sounds Legit

-vote Gyrlander

[Gyrlander]

Yzb25: - no feedback / ??

Varcron: - no feedback / Bodyguard, visited Banana

Ganelon - no feedback / Escort, roleblocked Varcron

Secondpassing - no feedback / Vigilante, shot renegade

Banana - Doctor, healed Yzb25

Ceko - Sheriff, visited Ganelon and got Insane feedback

Sen - Investigator, visited himself

SuperJack - ??

MM - Sleuth, visited renegade and Light. Received Asylum Counselor & Bus Driver

Gyrlander - Was visited at night / ??

Light - Bus Driver, bussed MM and Sen

@deathworlds Can you have more than 1 "Your cell was visited last night" feedback in the same night?
@BananaCucho Did you get any feedback?
@Light_Yagami Did you get the "Your cell was visited last night" feedback?
@Sen Did you get the "Your cell was visited last night" feedback?
@SuperJack @yzb25 Between you two, who visited me?

[Gyrlander]

Right, being so lazy isn't your style... but not committing to original scumreads and pushes? That's more like it, hm?

I commit to protecting your ass. That has happened in many games YOU SLUT.

[Gyrlander]

Also @Marshmallow Marshall

Did you receive "Your cell was visited last night" feedback?

[SuperJack]

I didn't visit you.

[BananaCucho]

@BananaCucho Why didn't you vote Frinckles when you were about to get lynched. You would have had a chance to save yourself (in case Sen didn't switch his vote / I changed to you, etc.).

One of two things is true:

1) I am jester king and wanted to die. If this scenario is true, you have no reason to lynch me. Let me exist, maybe the neutral scum thinks I'm jester king, maybe they think I'm doctor. Theres 4 further scenarios here.

a) They think Im jester but Im doc. They dont attack me. I'm allowed to heal all day every day

b) They think Im doc and Im doc. Im eventually attacked, and killed. No harm no foul, you see me flip doctor and analyze my stances finally.

c) They think Im jester king and im jester king. I exist til the end game. Maybe I live. Maybe I die. You probably eventually lynch me. Treecko shrieks in delight for being right.

d) they think Im doc and Im jester king. They attack me. I die. You laugh all day about how I almost won by 1 last second vote but now I lose alone.

Now lets consider the other thing that could be true:

2) I am doc. I scumread Pringles but as the lynch got closer to the end I genuinely felt doubt in that scumread due to the reactions I was seeing from him. I express this doubt. I do everything in my power to shift the votes off of what I view as a mislynch onto another person that isnt Pringles and that isnt Banana. I figure if it has to come down to the 2 of us Id rather die, because my role is to SAVE ANOTHER TOWN PLAYER. My action is at night, but THAT IS MY ACTUAL LITERAL JOB. So I'm willing to die to sacrifice myself to save what I viewed as a town player. I was wrong - because either MY TOWN GAME IS SHIT AND IM BAD AT READING PEOPLE AND MY DAY 1 READS IN PARTICULAR ARE ALWAYS BAD - or perhaps Pringles got a green rolecard and didnt know he was scum - in that instance my read was RIGHT. But we dont know. But thats why I did it. I was fulfilling my role.

There is no scenario 3) banana is neutral evil. I would have lost on being lynched. You could argue that I gambled and that my gamble paid off - but bro thats literally a gamethrow to taunt without voting Pringles if I was neutral evil as my death instantly puts this game into a L for me. So if you're willing to believe I'd gamethrow, something I've NEVER done in forum mafia (with an extensive i dunno like 50+ game career?) then by all means believe I'm evil.

[Gyrlander]

I didn't visit you.

I highly suspect Yzb25 is going to say he visited me. So now we got a mistery to solve.

[BananaCucho]

Yzb25: - no feedback / ??

Varcron: - no feedback / Bodyguard, visited Banana

Ganelon - no feedback / Escort, roleblocked Varcron

Secondpassing - no feedback / Vigilante, shot renegade

Banana - Doctor, healed Yzb25

Ceko - Sheriff, visited Ganelon and got Insane feedback

Sen - Investigator, visited himself

SuperJack - ??

MM - Sleuth, visited renegade and Light. Received Asylum Counselor & Bus Driver

Gyrlander - Was visited at night / ??

Light - Bus Driver, bussed MM and Sen

@deathworlds Can you have more than 1 "Your cell was visited last night" feedback in the same night?
@BananaCucho Did you get any feedback?
@Light_Yagami Did you get the "Your cell was visited last night" feedback?
@Sen Did you get the "Your cell was visited last night" feedback?
@SuperJack @yzb25 Between you two, who visited me?

Stop @ing me and making me click a few things to get rid of that (1). Ive read every post in this game except the first few pages that didnt have the glory of banana on them

I also already answered this.

[Gyrlander]

One of two things is true:

1) I am jester king and wanted to die. If this scenario is true, you have no reason to lynch me. Let me exist, maybe the neutral scum thinks I'm jester king, maybe they think I'm doctor. Theres 4 further scenarios here.

a) They think Im jester but Im doc. They dont attack me. I'm allowed to heal all day every day

b) They think Im doc and Im doc. Im eventually attacked, and killed. No harm no foul, you see me flip doctor and analyze my stances finally.

c) They think Im jester king and im jester king. I exist til the end game. Maybe I live. Maybe I die. You probably eventually lynch me. Treecko shrieks in delight for being right.

d) they think Im doc and Im jester king. They attack me. I die. You laugh all day about how I almost won by 1 last second vote but now I lose alone.

Now lets consider the other thing that could be true:

2) I am doc. I scumread Pringles but as the lynch got closer to the end I genuinely felt doubt in that scumread due to the reactions I was seeing from him. I express this doubt. I do everything in my power to shift the votes off of what I view as a mislynch onto another person that isnt Pringles and that isnt Banana. I figure if it has to come down to the 2 of us Id rather die, because my role is to SAVE ANOTHER TOWN PLAYER. My action is at night, but THAT IS MY ACTUAL LITERAL JOB. So I'm willing to die to sacrifice myself to save what I viewed as a town player. I was wrong - because either MY TOWN GAME IS SHIT AND IM BAD AT READING PEOPLE AND MY DAY 1 READS IN PARTICULAR ARE ALWAYS BAD - or perhaps Pringles got a green rolecard and didnt know he was scum - in that instance my read was RIGHT. But we dont know. But thats why I did it. I was fulfilling my role.

There is no scenario 3) banana is neutral evil. I would have lost on being lynched. You could argue that I gambled and that my gamble paid off - but bro thats literally a gamethrow to taunt without voting Pringles if I was neutral evil as my death instantly puts this game into a L for me. So if you're willing to believe I'd gamethrow, something I've NEVER done in forum mafia (with an extensive i dunno like 50+ game career?) then by all means believe I'm evil.

You apparently are not aware that Jester King can jesterfy players and fuck the town completely?

[Gyrlander]

Stop @ing me and making me click a few things to get rid of that (1). Ive read every post in this game except the first few pages that didnt have the glory of banana on them

I also already answered this.

If I ask you again it's because I forgot and I want to have it in a simple post. Mind answering me?

[BananaCucho]

You apparently are not aware that Jester King can jesterfy players and fuck the town completely?

.......

lmao

[BananaCucho]

If I ask you again it's because I forgot and I want to have it in a simple post. Mind answering me?

NO.

[BananaCucho]

I had to click to clear that 1 so I'm making you reread to get my feedback (o ")d

[Gyrlander]

I had to click to clear that 1 so I'm making you reread to get my feedback (o ")d

Tell me and I promise I'll tell you something interesting.

[BananaCucho]

Theres one last scenario

4) Players like Gry, if town, honestly dont care about my alignment and just want me gone from genuine annoyance, no matter the cost.

[BananaCucho]

Tell me and I promise I'll tell you something interesting.

No.

[BananaCucho]

Also I want to say Galeon <3 <3 <3 Im not lynching you ever either

[Gyrlander]

No.

Better for me. I was actually scared you'd answer.