S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

[Sen]

I Love That Kira Sticks To His Guns And Never Picks Sides. Fuckin Hilarious

Read: I hope he maintains his useless vote now that I have a chance of surviving the day.

[BananaCucho]

Read: I hope he maintains his useless vote now that I have a chance of surviving the day.

Keep Putting Words In My Mouth Buddy

[Sen]

I like pineapple pizza

I'm telling you. Pure scum.

[BananaCucho]

Lol that was pretty good

[Light_Yagami]

I don't soft claim and I don't hard claim. You just got salty because I told you to stop spamming, threw an OMGUS vote at me and then have been pushing this retarded, forced argument ever since, using it as an excuse to avoid getting involved in the actual voting.

Your vote isn't doing a thing. It's not like you've made a case against me -because surprise; there's none-, or trying to get others to follow it. it's lazy, stupid, and useless. The only thing that the vote is achieving is to work as an excuse for you to avoid committing to a real vote that has a chance of having the slightest impact on the game.

I'm watching you.

I Dont Get Salty.. And Feel No Need To Explain Why I Think The Way I Do.. The Case Is There.. And Watching Me Go For It.. Because, You Got News For Me I Got Nothing For You..

[Sen]

The Case Is There..

Sure thing. Probably got stuck in the same drawer where the rest of your deep thoughts and genius deductions that everyone else is too blind to see have been trapped for the entire game, eh? (:

[Light_Yagami]

Sure thing. Probably got stuck in the same drawer where the rest of your deep thoughts and genius deductions that everyone else is too blind to see have been trapped for the entire game, eh? (:

Not Just This Game

[Frinckles]

Yh Frinckles is dropping the ball this game really hard. Everything he's done may be a colossal fuck up resulting in a town flip, but even if he's town he's definitely not counsellor, meaning dragging the lynch out to see if he can prove himself is just dragging the mislynch out, assuming people like @Marshmallow Marshall are serious about following through on that.

Great job on the exam btw <3

So you know I flip town now? Okay.

[Frinckles]

-vote yzb25

[Frinckles]

Your rhetoric is sloppy this game, not mine.

[Sen]

I Dont Get Salty.

Also, I remember you throwing a tantrum when you were told to cut the spam, threatening with quitting the game. But that simply can't be, as you don't get salty; that'd mean that you openly lie in order to push your nonsense narrative, and why would that be?

I must be imagining things.

[secondpassing]

-vote yzb25

That's kind of a weak vote, and I'm pretty sure it's based off a hasty reading of his post.
I suspect you're feeling some sort of fear that is altering your perception, hence the quick re-point of fingers.

...and you didn't vote renegade like I asked you to.
Which means you weren't "open to suggestions" as you made yourself out to be.

[SuperJack]

-vote yzb25

Lol. No. You seriously think you can show everyone he is scum and get enough votes on him to lynch him?

Also I don't see much arguement from you to back up your position.

[secondpassing]

Think I'll be back within 1 hour of EOD, hopefully. I'm going to act like this is my last minute and I prefer a Frinckles lynch over a BananaCucho.
I don't like getting promised ISOs and then get told, oh I got nothing out of it. Yeah right.

-vote Frinckles

Prefer renegade vote though, I've told you why I believe he's scum. Kinda yet to hear why people believe he's town aside from, "yo he's town cause meta."
I have no meta on him. Give me something else. Like did you read intent? Don't think so.

[Frinckles]

Think I'll be back within 1 hour of EOD, hopefully. I'm going to act like this is my last minute and I prefer a Frinckles lynch over a BananaCucho.
I don't like getting promised ISOs and then get told, oh I got nothing out of it. Yeah right.

-vote Frinckles

Prefer renegade vote though, I've told you why I believe he's scum. Kinda yet to hear why people believe he's town aside from, "yo he's town cause meta."
I have no meta on him. Give me something else. Like did you read intent? Don't think so.

I didn't want to make an atomic bomb post since everything you guys write is an essay. I already went over that you guys have made arguments that will stand or fall apart in day two.

[Sen]

Kinda yet to hear why people believe he's town aside from, "yo he's town cause meta."

I already told you that your initial vote was based on an apparent change of tone between two posts during his shitposting stage. He might be scum, but not because of that. That's a weak argument.

Meta is for plebs, anyway.

[Frinckles]

I already told you that your initial vote was based on an apparent change of tone between two posts during his shitposting stage. He might be scum, but not because of that. That's a weak argument.

Meta is for plebs, anyway.

This.

[Light_Yagami]

Also, I remember you throwing a tantrum when you were told to cut the spam, threatening with quitting the game. But that simply can't be, as you don't get salty; that'd mean that you openly lie in order to push your nonsense narrative, and why would that be?

I must be imagining things.

Okay.. Yeah I Got Upset Because My Original Plan Was To Only Use Memes And Gifs This Game To Answer Things And Ask Questions Ans Such.. Didnt Realize There Was A Rule Till It Was Pointed Out.. So Basically It Ruined My Whole Plan For The Game..

[BananaCucho]

Think I'll be back within 1 hour of EOD, hopefully. I'm going to act like this is my last minute and I prefer a Frinckles lynch over a BananaCucho.
I don't like getting promised ISOs and then get told, oh I got nothing out of it. Yeah right.

-vote Frinckles

Prefer renegade vote though, I've told you why I believe he's scum. Kinda yet to hear why people believe he's town aside from, "yo he's town cause meta."
I have no meta on him. Give me something else. Like did you read intent? Don't think so.

[secondpassing]

I already told you that your initial vote was based on an apparent change of tone between two posts during his shitposting stage. He might be scum, but not because of that. That's a weak argument.

Meta is for plebs, anyway.

I'll reconsider that. You know, I did do a follow-up half ISO after that which made clear to me his motivations.
While we're on this topic, I can see why you think BananaCucho is scum. While the actions are scummy, the thought process that I imagine that goes behind that I cannot imagine to be scummy.
If the thought process isn't scummy, then perhaps Banana didn't receive a scum rolecard.

I find Ganelon and Frinckles to be the worse of the people that were on the mass claim thing. With Ganelon a bit more.. honest? And Frinckles more coherent with what he types.

[Frinckles]

I'll reconsider that. You know, I did do a follow-up half ISO after that which made clear to me his motivations.
While we're on this topic, I can see why you think BananaCucho is scum. While the actions are scummy, the thought process that I imagine that goes behind that I cannot imagine to be scummy.
If the thought process isn't scummy, then perhaps Banana didn't receive a scum rolecard.

I find Ganelon and Frinckles to be the worse of the people that were on the mass claim thing. With Ganelon a bit more.. honest? And Frinckles more coherent with what he types.

The mass claim thing was dumb anyway. I was just bored enough to entertain Banana who I highly doubt is a doctor.

[secondpassing]

I didn't want to make an atomic bomb post since everything you guys write is an essay. I already went over that you guys have made arguments that will stand or fall apart in day two.

I want alignments not arguments.
You don't do ISOs of people just to figure out their strategy for winning the game is.
You do ISOs to figure out amongst the large amount of data what is alignment indicative.

Besides, I think I'm like the only one making the wall posts. The others are making one-liners
and a few are writing sensible paragraphs for easy reading consumption.

[Sen]

I'll reconsider that. You know, I did do a follow-up half ISO after that which made clear to me his motivations.
While we're on this topic, I can see why you think BananaCucho is scum. While the actions are scummy, the thought process that I imagine that goes behind that I cannot imagine to be scummy.
If the thought process isn't scummy, then perhaps Banana didn't receive a scum rolecard.

I find Ganelon and Frinckles to be the worse of the people that were on the mass claim thing. With Ganelon a bit more.. honest? And Frinckles more coherent with what he types.

I'm experiencing something similar, but the other way around; I think Frinckles' actions can be explained by what I have in mind. I guess I'll find out soon enough whether I was right or simply having a mental jerk by thinking I figured something that was never there.

[BananaCucho]

The mass claim thing was dumb anyway. I was just bored enough to entertain Banana who I highly doubt is a doctor.

So you could throw me under the bus later. Yep.

[secondpassing]

So you could throw me under the bus later. Yep.

You have so many traitors. If I was still new, I woulda licked your shoes and sang your praises.

[Sen]

I'm experiencing something similar, but the other way around; I think Frinckles' actions can be explained by what I have in mind. I guess I'll find out soon enough whether I was right or simply having a mental jerk-off by thinking I figured something that was never there.

Mental Jerk. That's going to be my next solo project's name.

[BananaCucho]

Pringles if you think I'm scum you should call me out as scum. Not go along with a high energy event just to try to paint me as scummy.

[BananaCucho]

You have so many traitors. If I was still new, I woulda licked your shoes and sang your praises.

They took advantage of my energetic nature lol

[yzb25]

Also, I remember you throwing a tantrum when you were told to cut the spam, threatening with quitting the game. But that simply can't be, as you don't get salty; that'd mean that you openly lie in order to push your nonsense narrative, and why would that be?

I must be imagining things.

Bro you seem like you've got insights into this game that none of the rest of us have and all of it is getting lost because of your focus on this tunnel and the way you communicate with people. Like wtf was the point in getting Light to admit he is capable of getting salty other than scoring cheap points >.>. That's not helping to advance any reads, that's just trying to dominate people.

Your earlier assessment that there is likely only one major neut evil is almost definitely wrong, unless you think DW put the double-cult possibility in to psyche people out. The last game of this was a crushing town win because there was only 1 major neutral evil and he couldn't do all the heavy lifting alone. This setup is probably Neutral Killing/Neutral Killing, Neutral killing/Cult or Cult/Cult with another funky neutral or two sprinkled in. Even if you're adamant BC is a major neut evil you should at least be open to the possibility of another, and be thinking about how to help town in the present without a BC lynch, like secondpassing is doing for renegade.

This isn't about getting you on the Frinckles train, I just don't want you to burn yourself out before the actual game starts lol.

[Frinckles]

Pringles if you think I'm scum you should call me out as scum. Not go along with a high energy event just to try to paint me as scummy.

Not really sold on you being scum. I'd prefer YZB because his opportunism is pretty fishy.

[Frinckles]

But that doesn't look like an alternative for the time being.

[BananaCucho]

Not really sold on you being scum. I'd prefer YZB because his opportunism is pretty fishy.

You've been way more opportunistuc

[BananaCucho]

How is Zeb defending me "opportunistic" when I'm am easy day 1 lynch lol

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Think I'll be back within 1 hour of EOD, hopefully. I'm going to act like this is my last minute and I prefer a Frinckles lynch over a BananaCucho.
I don't like getting promised ISOs and then get told, oh I got nothing out of it. Yeah right.

-vote Frinckles

Prefer renegade vote though, I've told you why I believe he's scum. Kinda yet to hear why people believe he's town aside from, "yo he's town cause meta."
I have no meta on him. Give me something else. Like did you read intent? Don't think so.

I support this. As for Renegade, using meta arguments for or against him is 100 % bullshit, since this is his second game ever, and he was mafia (with a chat and all) in his first game.

Sen, SP's vote on Renegade is far from being just about a supposed tone change in shitposts... That was all explained in SP's case, come on lol. I even commented on it and added a layer to it. I'll keep my vote on Frinckles because it's certainly better to eat Pringles than Bananas, but if I'm able to be here at EoD and see Renegade train gained some traction, my vote might go there.

[BananaCucho]

Anyone wanna entertain a Gry lynch?

[BananaCucho]

Just spitballin here

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Bro you seem like you've got insights into this game that none of the rest of us have and all of it is getting lost because of your focus on this tunnel and the way you communicate with people. Like wtf was the point in getting Light to admit he is capable of getting salty other than scoring cheap points >.>. That's not helping to advance any reads, that's just trying to dominate people.

Your earlier assessment that there is likely only one major neut evil is almost definitely wrong, unless you think DW put the double-cult possibility in to psyche people out. The last game of this was a crushing town win because there was only 1 major neutral evil and he couldn't do all the heavy lifting alone. This setup is probably Neutral Killing/Neutral Killing, Neutral killing/Cult or Cult/Cult with another funky neutral or two sprinkled in. Even if you're adamant BC is a major neut evil you should at least be open to the possibility of another, and be thinking about how to help town in the present without a BC lynch, like secondpassing is doing for renegade.

This isn't about getting you on the Frinckles train, I just don't want you to burn yourself out before the actual game starts lol.

I agree with this post logically, but to be fair, it's very tempting to try to score cheap points against Light when he says things that do not make sense (like he did earlier) and that everyone is like "oh but that's ok, he must be town" and virtually stares at you for attacking the poor guy you unjustly scumread... I can relate lol. I also still don't think Light should stay alive, especially since Ganelon is seeing him in his scum meta. That's another lynch I would support.

[Frinckles]

How is Zeb defending me "opportunistic" when I'm am easy day 1 lynch lol

I'd say him retroactively jumping on my lynch wagon is opportunistic.

[Frinckles]

Well, you guys have fun being crazy.

[BananaCucho]

I'd say him retroactively jumping on my lynch wagon is opportunistic.

How? Explain

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Anyone wanna entertain a Gry lynch?

There are much better options atm (namely Pringles, Renegade, and Light). I don't townread Gyr anymore, but I feel like such a wagon switch would be prematurate and would ruin the info we could get from continuing the Pringles path, or from going into the other discussed paths (Renegade, Light). That's how we can see progression and weird EoD reactions, not by randomly CFDing someone else.

[Sen]

Your earlier assessment that there is likely only one major neut evil is almost definitely wrong

I never said such a thing. There's at least 2 pure scum, and 1 or 2 town-aligned benigns. I remember saying that if everyone played assuming they're town, it was likely that at least 10 of us would achieve our win conditions by the end. That "10" included the benigns that side with the town, as those are the only one who will be able to win. Pure scum -ie; neutral evil- are just fucked.

As for the rest; of course I have insights, but publicly chasing a million targets at once achieves nothing other than giving other players arguments to misdirect, derail, and otherwise further their own goals by using my words. Right now I could build a page-long case about what I think is going on with Frinckles, but I won't because I'm well aware that I might be wrong, and that presenting such a case would all but guarantee that he isn't lynched today.

If he expects to survive, he must present all of that on his own, and only then I'll see if it matches with what I have and act one way or the other accordingly.

[Light_Yagami]

There are much better options atm (namely Pringles, Renegade, and Light). I don't townread Gyr anymore, but I feel like such a wagon switch would be prematurate and would ruin the info we could get from continuing the Pringles path, or from going into the other discussed paths (Renegade, Light). That's how we can see progression and weird EoD reactions, not by randomly CFDing someone else.

Aint Nobody Stopping A Me Lynch.

[Sen]

Sen, SP's vote on Renegade is far from being just about a supposed tone change in shitposts... That was all explained in SP's case, come on lol.

When he first asked about our opinions on it, it was based on a supposed tone change. Anyone can go back and see. It's not my fault that noone else pays attention and replies over a day later when countless other things have happened.

[Frinckles]

How? Explain

Mass claim Shenanigans were an easy way to set me for a lynch by framing me as playing differently/claiming with no pressure etc.

[Sen]

Anyone wanna entertain a Gry lynch?

I wouldn't be against it. As I mentioned in response to Ceko; Gyr was my other candidate for today, so I have my reasons.

Why do you think he should be lynched today?

[Light_Yagami]

Well, you guys have fun being crazy.

Were All Mad Here.. And Its Okay.. This Is A Mental Institution After All..

[yzb25]

I never said such a thing. There's at least 2 pure scum, and 1 or 2 town-aligned benigns. I remember saying that if everyone played assuming they're town, it was likely that at least 10 of us would achieve our win conditions by the end. That "10" included the benigns that side with the town, as those are the only one who will be able to win. Pure scum -ie; neutral evil- are just fucked.

As for the rest; of course I have insights, but publicly chasing a million targets at once achieves nothing other than giving other players arguments to misdirect, derail, and otherwise further their own goals by using my words. Right now I could build a page-long case about what I think is going on with Frinckles, but I won't because I'm well aware that I might be wrong, and that presenting such a case would all but guarantee that he isn't lynched today.

If he expects to survive, he must present all of that on his own, and only then I'll see if it matches with what I have and act one way or the other accordingly.

I must have misread or be misattributing something then. Either way it's not that important. Tunnelling someone for days to no avail feels fucking horrible. I've been in that situation. I hope you can enjoy a nice break during night one mate.

[Frinckles]

Alternatively, my role is literally confirmable by feedback given if I target a Lunatic.

[BananaCucho]

I wouldn't be against it. As I mentioned in response to Ceko; Gyr was my other candidate for today, so I have my reasons.

Why do you think he should be lynched today?

Gut.