I believe the arsonist ignited early because they read my plan about the DC clearing themselves and possibly someone else the next day. If that happened, they'd be fucked or close to it.
I believe the arsonist ignited early because they read my plan about the DC clearing themselves and possibly someone else the next day. If that happened, they'd be fucked or close to it.
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Now I'm getting paranoid that I'm being pocketed like last game.
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It's not OMGUS. I genuinely believe you're scum. This is a logical post that I have pieced together and created.
You voted up Kovath because it was an easy vote that gives you cred. You unvoted Kovath when he was on L-1. I don't think town frinckles does that.
But like, even when Kovath DID come back, you didn't actually have a meaninful conversation with him. At was all very hallow. I think that was what my problem with it was.
And no, I really do believe you are scum. Scumpainting me like I just saw I was getting L-1 and have been lurking all day yesterday only affirms my view. I have never had a person call me scum for low activity and actually BE TOWN. You are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Any doubts I have are totally firm now. I believe you are the arsonist and I am willing to bet my lynch on that today.
Calling me scum because I was inactive and just came back is a weak argument AT BEST and the fact that you have absolutely nothing supporting that is awful.
I've got a second point lined up which I'll make tomorrow, but I want to let you dig your own grave first. It will give me more ammunition.
Legit, what are you talking about? Kovath came back with like 10 fucking minutes before EOD and made one remark about me that I legitimately didn't understand and you didn't put into context. Kovath was unvoted because I said I didn't want to risk mislynching an AFK DC on accident.
I'm not scumpainting you, I just legit don't have any idea wtf you're talking about. You told me "You can feel free to call it OMGUS" and then started your post off with it's not OMGUS. Come on.
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Also the 'dig your own grave line' is the silliest line I've read in a while. If we're both town you fucked us, you know that right?
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In life. Sometimes sacrifices need to be made
-vote Caustic
It would appear you don’t consider me a Benevolent Variable, hence why I am taking this approach.
As of now.
I’ll continue observing.
Ah it would appear I jumped to conclusions rather hastily.
Hence, why I am completely retracting my Parasite read on Varcron into a solid Benevolent Variable Read.
Since I’m currently attentive, I request you to elaborate why you felt obligated to consider me the most important variable known as the douse checker.
Ah, the variable known as Varcron I have concluded as a Benevolent variable.
Hence, why he’s not a Parasite Read.
I have shown empathy towards you, take it as you will I’m considering you a Benevolent Variable as well.
As it stands, I wish for one thing. Results.
Dude really I go off on Frinckles for like 25 posts with a 100% solid scumread and you come along and do literally the same thing you did last game as scum where you dance around the fucking questions
I asked you why you believe marsh and Frinckles are scummy and you just said “because Varcron and you are towny”. That’s not an answer.
Just addressing this first :
Uh, no. People hammering early and not letting others give their input are extremely anti-town in a 24 hours setup, and preventing it is not "setting up" anything but a prevention against Arsonist cutting off info in the event of a mislynch.
That is a theory I have right now, yes. That being said, Varcron doesn't become confirmed scum because of his interactions with Toad; the interactions simply felt dishonest and had a lot of misrepresentation on both sides, and what I believed to be blatant lying from Toad.
Also, I want to reassess my townread of Frinckles, @Stealthbomber16 . I don't buy his interaction with Kovath at EoD as a "scum dancing around the future corpse". I also think he's not scummy overall? That doesn't mean I'll necessarily agree with his reads though ;)
If you were truly loyal to that train of thoughts, you'd be voting me right now... what are you doing? This feels fake. Also, as Varcron said after :
Pretty much that lol.Originally Posted by Varcron
Also, I just want to say that I thought Varcron was the douse checker, and that he might have softclaimed at some point. That's why I didn't want to lynch him on D1. Guess I was wrong.
@Caustic you lack original thoughts and need to make reads by yourself. Making reads = explaining your reads with arguments, not just "If A = 1, then B = 2" because that's not how Mafia works. You're not a newbie, and I expect more from you.
Hm. Frinckles unvoting Kovath to avoid the L-1 on him sure could be what you think it is, and it's actually relatively likely (when taken as an individual event) since it wasn't far from EoD. That being said, your case isn't so strong; but it is honest. It doesn't have over-the-top elements or scumpainting, and you're engaging Frinckles hard enough to be falling with him on the next lynch tomorrow if you're Arsonist. I'm not placing a vote on any of you as of now.
- OMGUS? Making a case against someone with a whole theory cannot be called OMGUS, sorry. You're buzzwording.
- And when you UNVOTED kovath when he was getting threatened. You forgot to speak about that part... that's not honest.
- His lack of explaination for douse-ignite is the only valid point in your post.
- He never said you were scum because Kovath nicknamed you lol.
He then put it in context to say it wasn't that unfitting. Why would he put that kind of stuff in his case as scum? If anything, it shows that he's trying not to be biased. It's a strange thing to put in a small case if you're scum wanting to push a relatively unpopular mislynch.
What makes me reluctant to scumread Frinckles is that he's never honest when he defends himself, whatever his alignment is. That might be a good strategy, after all, since it makes him harder to read in cases similar to this one. It's not fun, though.
I know I have already replied to this post, but now that I've read Frinckles' reply, I can really appreciate the Trump administration reference.
And for your information, you've got me totally pocketed if you're arson lol, good job. The only question I have about Frinckles - you is "should I actually vote Frinckles?".
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About the douse-ignite question, a.k.a. the "Who would douse Kovath and ignite him afterwards, considering he had been relatively AFK?", I am coming to the conclusion that the most likely candidate is... Caustic. Not really because he has reasons to do so (noone ACTUALLY has reasons to ignite the AFK guy N1 honestly, he wasn't threatening enough for it to be a fearkill), but because he's the one who has the most laid-back attitude and who can create the most confusion with it. Proof is, we're still debating about it, and he's being left out of it all.
Of course, that's nothing super strong, but I think I might be onto something.
The rest of Stealth - Frinckles is a rabbit hole that is rarely worth going down into when you're already convinced that one side is completely innocent, it only generates tunnels, so I'm going to stay out of what has already been posted on the topic.
Self-votes don't work here, by the way. Also, that's so out of nowhere, instead of contributing with original reads and thoughts you just try to suicide? !/!?/$!?$?"$? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Tbh-vote CausticThat can't be dangerous for hammers since he's not being voted at all, and this slot needs pressure. I'm not 100 % sold, though.
And my Varcron slight scumread kinda fades away in front of the scummier ones.
If I can obtain full trust.
We win this game with the elimination of Marshal and Frinckles.
One of those 2 contain the Parasite.
What inspired you to exterminate him?
Day ends in about 4 and a half hours
Bringing your attention to "Of course, it's only early D1, so my read might change". Early on, our thoughts aligned nearly perfectly, and he was doing exactly what town should do : encourage discussion, be active, etc. All of that stuff wasn't highly AI, but it was better than nothing.
On D2, he started doing weird stuff like self-contradicting/backpedaling on the Douse Checker claiming or not (and yes, I do know he's rolling in his grave and hating me for saying that right now, but it remains true). He also went full gaslighting and didn't really bother addressing cases in a civil and logical manner, it was mostly "you're stupid for scumreading me". He looked like caught scum.
Yeah, the fact that I'm not being pushed means I'm dead. So
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SB16 cannot be an Arsonist pushing me this hard-vote unvoteyour arguments are shit though.
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MM imma ask you a simple question, are you the fuckin arsonist?
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I dunno, I feel like it’s really hard to make a good argument right now. There is a lack of content in general this game. I’ve got very little to work with. I’m happy that I was able to actually make a post.
I’m just glad someone else is seeing what I’m seeing. I think I’m okay with a caustic lynch today but I do think I’d be waaay more comfortable with a Frinckles lynch. We have another mislynch before LYLO.
I can respect that.
I am expecting Varcron to die tonight so I don’t think your read on Varcron is correct (by extension)
Caustic and Frinckles are the only two people that would’ve killed Kovath.
That being said, I think if it comes down to it I would be okay with placing you in a swing vote between me and Frinckles on the next day. If you’re arsonist WP toad was right but I just don’t see it.
-vote Caustic
This will narrow the pool quite a bit. Regardless of the night action tonight we are entering LYLO tomorrow. I want everyone to come ready with a case. It could be 3 people alive or it could be 4 people alive.
In actuality, if MM is the Parasite here their goal to achieve here would be exterminate myself and finish the game with the death of Frinckles.
But in other terms, Frinckles could be the Parasite here and we are on the right track.
Caustic has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!
Frinckles (1 [L-2]): Caustic
Caustic (3 [L-0]): Frinckles, Stealthbomber16, Marshmallow Marshall