S-FM 294 (Ladder) : Undercover - Game Thread

[BananaCucho]

Yeah and BC isn't really behaving like someone who knows he's gonna get lynched d5 and lose the game. As BC has reiterated, Frinckles is the one scrambling

I'd literally concede than make myself suffer through that scenario lol. On to the next game!

[yzb25]

After the choice between Joey and Duck is made, it'd be nice if I could like submit a lynch order and dist could just tell me whether town wins. Is that impatient of me? xD

[yzb25]

like we could discuss it first and finalize whether Duck or Gyr goes last but it really doesn't feel important at this point lol

[BananaCucho]

like we could discuss it first and finalize whether Duck or Gyr goes last but it really doesn't feel important at this point lol

I still think Gry is town over duck tbh if it came down to it

But I'll leave it up to your judgement

[Frinckles]

Yeah and BC isn't really behaving like someone who knows he's gonna get lynched d5 and lose the game. As BC has reiterated, Frinckles is the one scrambling

How so?

[Frinckles]

@Gyrlander thoughts?

[Gyrlander]

Thoughts are we are lynching Kenny. Don't think that has changed.

[yzb25]

Thoughts are we are lynching Kenny. Don't think that has changed.

If you believe me you should lynch Joey, if you believe Kenny you should lynch Duck. SK takes priority.

[Gyrlander]

If you believe me you should lynch Joey, if you believe Kenny you should lynch Duck. SK takes priority.

My bad, lynching Joey**. I was just trying to say Kenny is full of shit.

[yzb25]

My bad, lynching Joey**. I was just trying to say Kenny is full of shit.

ah okay, cool.

[Kenny]

Like you know this to be true. Is super obvious right? Ducky wont kill me, and Ill vote with him lol

Just further supports town yzb in my mind

If he fake claims knowing Id side with my boy ducky, its just a really stupid play

Is this confirmation bias? Maybe. But I think it just makes sense

This is just open power wolfing. I'm not asking to be lynched after a townflip because I got the host's confirmation that ducky flips sk here

[Gyrlander]

As BC said, if I was mafia I wouldn't need to make this kind of play to ensure a mislynch. Getting a slot like BC or Kenny lynched would have been much more doable. If I claimed FBI and gyr counter claimed FBI I would have been fucked. Kenny is in the position where he needs to make a play or at least get something out his slot like an agent CC to ensure his lynch wasn't meaningless.

Good.

[Gyrlander]

Neither me or you ever expressed strong scumreads on Joey. And what are you talking about, if I had to guess FBI I probably would have guessed me, Gyr or an inactive.

Why would you guess me? Because I'm one of you main town reads?

[yzb25]

Why would you guess me? Because I'm one of you main town reads?

Yeah but also your play of hanging back and collecting reads makes for a natural FBI agent guess.

[Frinckles]

Of me and Banana I'm scum to you? Right Gyr?

[yzb25]

Yeah but also your play of hanging back and collecting reads makes for a natural FBI agent guess.

You didn't push a single train on d1 but also didn't give off the sense that you lack conviction either.

[Kenny]

Good.

Are you fucking serious lol. How would you CCing him as agent would put yzb in an any worse position than my cc?

[yzb25]

Are you fucking serious lol. How would you CCing him as agent would put yzb in an any worse position than my cc?

because he's townread by basically the whole game. In a CC war with Gyr I'd probably lose.

[BananaCucho]

This is just open power wolfing. I'm not asking to be lynched after a townflip because I got the host's confirmation that ducky flips sk here

What is power wolfing? A term Im unfamiliar with

[Kenny]

because he's townread by basically the whole game. In a CC war with Gyr I'd probably lose.

Gyr posted like 10 times today. No fucking way.

And even if that were the case, you'd be just describing the situation I am in here right now, no?

[Kenny]

Gyr posted like 10 times today. No fucking way.

And even if that were the case, you'd be just describing the situation I am in here right now, no?

Which would be a good reason to townread Gyr tbh if it were true

[BananaCucho]

Gyr posted like 10 times today. No fucking way.

And even if that were the case, you'd be just describing the situation I am in here right now, no?

Yes way. Gry is town, I'll eat my sock otherwise

Activity =/= alignment

[Gyrlander]

@Gyrlander you need to be reading in me / Banana.

As far as I know we lynch Joey, if he flips SK good, if not then RIP Town.

Then you and Banana get lynched, which makes my reads of you irrelevant as you'll eventually die as you agree to it.

The only issue I can imagine is a world where Kenny bussed his team mate Duck and we get to 2 v 1 yzb, Duck and me, at which point I'll probably have to convince yzb to kill duck. THAT will be interesting but I don't know if Kenny would have had the balls to claim a SK read on his own team mate.

[yzb25]

Gyr posted like 10 times today. No fucking way.

And even if that were the case, you'd be just describing the situation I am in here right now, no?

Quality over quantity lol

The original point was that it doesn't make sense for me to start this CC war as maf. I had enough cred to get by getting some other fuck lynched, but claiming FBI agent would have been a big risk if Gyr was FBI. And even if I won the CC war I was resigning my slot to getting lynched d3. Again, people side with 3p in kingmaker situations.

[Kenny]

What is power wolfing? A term Im unfamiliar with

Being the most vocal player as a wolf and abusing that position usually. Here I see it as you being mafia together with yzb against inactive ducky and Gyr to make empty promises and vote someone else tomorrow.

[yzb25]

Being the most vocal player as a wolf and abusing that position usually. Here I see it as you being mafia together with yzb against inactive ducky and Gyr to make empty promises and vote someone else tomorrow.

dude if you saw my d1 with BC you would not think we're scum together hahah

[yzb25]

dude if you saw my d1 with BC you would not think we're scum together hahah

you'd have to team me with gyr or smth lol

[Gyrlander]

You didn't push a single train on d1 but also didn't give off the sense that you lack conviction either.

My play is to try to find players that I'm fully convinced they are Town and then protecting them to death. OR get mislynched and perish in an orgasm.

[Kenny]

Quality over quantity lol

The original point was that it doesn't make sense for me to start this CC war as maf. I had enough cred to get by getting some other fuck lynched, but claiming FBI agent would have been a big risk if Gyr was FBI. And even if I won the CC war I was resigning my slot to getting lynched d3. Again, people side with 3p in kingmaker situations.

That applies to my slot too, and even to a greater extent as you seemingly have even more towncred over me than gyr could've had over you.

[Gyrlander]

Of me and Banana I'm scum to you? Right Gyr?

I've not made my mind and I do not have to since you'll both die before It's my turn.

[yzb25]

That applies to my slot too, and even to a greater extent as you seemingly have even more towncred over me than gyr could've had over you.

Well yea, but the point was on d1 your slot was relegated as a future lynch. So you kinda had to make some kind of play to get any value out of your slot. Even if you couldn't win the CC war, you could at least draw out the FBI agent.

[Gyrlander]

Are you fucking serious lol. How would you CCing him as agent would put yzb in an any worse position than my cc?

I was actually quite town read at the moment and yzb was not. Plus, no one gets away CCing me when I'm the fucking real Town Power role.

[BananaCucho]

As far as I know we lynch Joey, if he flips SK good, if not then RIP Town.

Then you and Banana get lynched, which makes my reads of you irrelevant as you'll eventually die as you agree to it.

The only issue I can imagine is a world where Kenny bussed his team mate Duck and we get to 2 v 1 yzb, Duck and me, at which point I'll probably have to convince yzb to kill duck. THAT will be interesting but I don't know if Kenny would have had the balls to claim a SK read on his own team mate.

Wait

Wait

Wait

Wait

[BananaCucho]

WAIT

[Gyrlander]

Gyr posted like 10 times today. No fucking way.

And even if that were the case, you'd be just describing the situation I am in here right now, no?

You realise that if I were FBI Agent I would have made sure to stay all the time needed to get yzb lynched right

[yzb25]

I was actually quite town read at the moment and yzb was not. Plus, no one gets away CCing me when I'm the fucking real Town Power role.

yeah tbf most of my townreads have come following the start of this CC war. People were generally uncomfortable with my slot on day 1. So even then it's possible your accomplice thought you could win a CC war against me, as well as the inactives.

[BananaCucho]

If Kenny is mafia, duck HAS to be town

If we lynched Ducky, and he flipped mafia (bussing), then both mafia members are immediately solved/revealed

NO WAY this is a bus

yzb/ducky town core.

[BananaCucho]

@yzn25

Lynch gry at final 3

Game over.

[yzb25]

WAIT

what is it

[Kenny]

Well yea, but the point was on d1 your slot was relegated as a future lynch. So you kinda had to make some kind of play to get any value out of your slot. Even if you couldn't win the CC war, you could at least draw out the FBI agent.

What value would I gain if I were mafia here? I didn't draw out any CCs too. I made by ducky vote look like a shitpost, and only hardclaimed after you came with your claim

[yzb25]

@yzn25

Lynch gry at final 3

Game over.

BRO THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING XDDDD

[BananaCucho]

If Kenny is mafia, duck HAS to be town

If we lynched Ducky, and he flipped mafia (bussing), then both mafia members are immediately solved/revealed

NO WAY this is a bus

yzb/ducky town core.

This is true cause mafis flip = Kenny is lying anyway lmao

[yzb25]

I thought you were worried about the extremely fringe scenario our friend Duck is actually an excellent smurf and he concocted this plan with Kenny on n1.

[BananaCucho]

BRO THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING XDDDD

Fo

Got it now lmao

[Gyrlander]

If Kenny is mafia, duck HAS to be town

If we lynched Ducky, and he flipped mafia (bussing), then both mafia members are immediately solved/revealed

NO WAY this is a bus

yzb/ducky town core.

Is this serious? You didn't forget what WIFOM is, right? I only established the least possible scenario (but the most interesting) that could happen if Kenny decided to gamble like a maniac. Duck is not confirmed Town and me neither.

Still, that's an issue I'll think about when we get to that point.

[Gyrlander]

-vote JoeyDX

I'm not going to discuss with any of you when I'm quite confident that scenario is not going to happen. End this.

[yzb25]

Kenny slowly becoming more desperate as the day wears on doesn't feel like being part of WIFOM, but hey it could be excellent acting.

Regardless there's no need to waste brain cells on what we'd do on day 6 lol

[Gyrlander]

Kenny slowly becoming more desperate as the day wears on doesn't feel like being part of WIFOM, but hey it could be excellent acting.

Regardless there's no need to waste brain cells on what we'd do on day 6 lol

My point. Please go forward. If Joey flips Town make sure to vanquish yzb's team from existence.

[Kenny]

You realise that if I were FBI Agent I would have made sure to stay all the time needed to get yzb lynched right

So what? The mafia has 2 members and even you get mislynched at times. I've also only hardclaimed after yzb did, he couldn't have known at that time who he is CCing there.

[BananaCucho]

Is this serious? You didn't forget what WIFOM is, right? I only established the least possible scenario (but the most interesting) that could happen if Kenny decided to gamble like a maniac. Duck is not confirmed Town and me neither.

Still, that's an issue I'll think about when we get to that point.

Fbi cant find mafia, only sk. If we lynched ducky instead of joey, we know joey is sk and kenny is mafia.

There is no wifom LOL