Day V - Remember Remember.

[Moisey]

Can anyone prove that that's the right roleblock message? Or did Oops say something about changing the words in PMs

If people actually think that message if a fake then their retarded. In less then a minute i would of had to find how many messages that FM Game Master had to date, write the entire role-block message (and not just a simple, you are roleblocked, but the entire "dont remember his face part) type in the time and replay shit all that and then post it in less then 60 seconds. No, I copied and pasted. Physical proof that Tatyana is telling the truth and that Arkadi is full of shit.

[Moisey]

Could C3P0 calculate the odds of two propagandists for me please?

Also, I don't see how questioning whether or not you were actually role blocked makes me scum. The odds of you being recruited by the Bolsheviks after you essentially openly admitted to being a peasant are pretty high, so it's not like my theory is completely out of the realm of possibilities. At this point you're either a recruited bolshevik peasant, the witch who didn't start controlling until now, or the german general who would appear to do nothing when followed by a detective. Regardless of what one, you should probably add your own name to that list in your signature.

WHICH JUST REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING: We're missing a german kill. No one has claimed to be healed or attacked. TATYANA BLOCKED MOISEY LAST NIGHT. Think what you will of that.

It's already been proven what role I am thanks to Alexei and Fyodor. And it's NOT GERMAN. But again, nice try at building a false reality.

Can we please get THREE votes already for Arkadi so we can put this to rest and can show who's trust worthy and who's not? Thank you.

[Arkadi]

It's already been proven what role I am thanks to Alexei and Fyodor. And it's NOT GERMAN. But again, nice try at building a false reality.

Can we please get THREE votes already for Arkadi so we can put this to rest and can show who's trust worthy and who's not? Thank you.

I don't remember Fyodor actually saying he investigated you. But I do know Alexei admitted she didn't actually follow you. Because I blocked her, remember? And even if she did follow you, the german general is immune to detection and would come up as doing nothing. Just like a peasant claim would.

Why are you in such a rush to see me die? Am I starting to make too much sense?

[Viktoria]

Could C3P0 calculate the odds of two propagandists for me please?

This point is invalid as there are less Power Roles now and the likeliness of there being two actresses has dropped significantly

[Moisey]

thumbs up for being 1 of 4 pesants.

Why don't you start a conspiracy about Prokhor now. Ya, what I thought.

Arkadi games over for you. All we need are 3 votes and then all the mistrust goes away.

[Arkadi]

Why don't you start a conspiracy about Prokhor now. Ya, what I thought.

Arkadi games over for you. All we need are 3 votes and then all the mistrust goes away.

Prokhor hasn't been blocked with a missing german kill. And he also isn't the first live person to confirm one of Tatyana's blocks. So it's a little harder to start a conspiracy on him when you're pretty much a confirmed scum in my eyes. If not german, then bolshevik. If neither of those, then the witch that hasn't "moved" yet until last night.

[Moisey]

I don't remember Fyodor actually saying he investigated you. But I do know Alexei admitted she didn't actually follow you. Because I blocked her, remember? And even if she did follow you, the german general is immune to detection and would come up as doing nothing. Just like a peasant claim would.

Why are you in such a rush to see me die? Am I starting to make too much sense?

Rep message from Alexei.

"Thread: Day 3 - The Massacre 16-01-2012 03:19 PM
Fyodor said you didn't move and are a peasant which I can confirm. Do you want me to make it look like you are PR so u killed? I will just say you confirmed visiting the person I saw you visit. Alexei"

Arkadi again is caught. Thats point, set, match.

[Viktoria]

I don't remember Fyodor actually saying he investigated you. But I do know Alexei admitted she didn't actually follow you. Because I blocked her, remember? And even if she did follow you, the german general is immune to detection and would come up as doing nothing. Just like a peasant claim would.

Why are you in such a rush to see me die? Am I starting to make too much sense?

BTW Alexei is a guy's name, Alexei was Kromos, a guy, and he had an avatar of a guy

[Moisey]

To which Fyodor confirmed that I didnt visit anyone and then we confirmed my role. Good Game Arkadi.

[Moisey]

"Why are you in such a rush to see me die? Am I starting to make too much sense?"

I voted for you right away, as I have been doing every day with confirmed Germans. I vote as soon as I log in. Day 4 I had first replay and first vote on a confirmed German and wait, whats that? He turned out to be German?! Well, Arkadi, time to say bye bye.

[Arkadi]

Rep message from Alexei.

"Thread: Day 3 - The Massacre 16-01-2012 03:19 PM
Fyodor said you didn't move and are a peasant which I can confirm. Do you want me to make it look like you are PR so u killed? I will just say you confirmed visiting the person I saw you visit. Alexei"

Arkadi again is caught. Thats point, set, match.

That's not confirmation. That's you claiming peasant because that's what you'd show up as german general. If anything, this proves that you're something shady, because you didn't want Alexei to make it appear that you were a PR to take a bullet for town. You were quite eager to clarify that day that you were really "just a peasant". Far from match.

And Viktoria, I apologize if when I hear the name Alexei I think of a girl. That is completely relevant information to this game, and I intend to use the correct pronoun from now on. Thank god you contributed that piece of info.

[Viktoria]

That's not confirmation. That's you claiming peasant because that's what you'd show up as german general. If anything, this proves that you're something shady, because you didn't want Alexei to make it appear that you were a PR to take a bullet for town. You were quite eager to clarify that day that you were really "just a peasant". Far from match.

And Viktoria, I apologize if when I hear the name Alexei I think of a girl. That is completely relevant information to this game, and I intend to use the correct pronoun from now on. Thank god you contributed that piece of info.

You never know what might be a code

[Moisey]

That's not confirmation. That's you claiming peasant because that's what you'd show up as german general. If anything, this proves that you're something shady, because you didn't want Alexei to make it appear that you were a PR to take a bullet for town. You were quite eager to clarify that day that you were really "just a peasant". Far from match.

And Viktoria, I apologize if when I hear the name Alexei I think of a girl. That is completely relevant information to this game, and I intend to use the correct pronoun from now on. Thank god you contributed that piece of info.

Again, you are retarded. Please go read Day 3. Proves my role and not the German General. The detective would also be able to see who I visited on Day 3 and look, I didn't visit anyone because I don't have the ability too.

Basically Arkadi you have already been proven guilty due to my confirmation that you are not an actress. I have proven with messages from FM and with Rep messages of my innocence. You have done NOTHING to prove you are innocent. You would have if you were, but you are not. You are also not the main focus anymore. Granted yes, you should be and will be lynched today when people start logging on and read my confirmation of Tats role (those that voted for Sasha will switch their votes over), but here is the bigger question. Why have no many people not voted yet? Granted, this late in the game, it would be stupid for a German to vote for another German. But that also makes it very easy to pin point who the remaining Germans are, as they have not voted or will not switch their votes from Sasha over.

[Moisey]

Thank god you contributed that piece of info.

Someones getting maaaaaad.....

[Svetlana]

You never know what might be a code

You really shouldn't speak until you get that information I requested.

Waiting on the 'information slip' you used to discern that I was German.

[Svetlana]

Again, you are retarded. Please go read Day 3. Proves my role and not the German General. The detective would also be able to see who I visited on Day 3 and look, I didn't visit anyone because I don't have the ability too.

Basically Arkadi you have already been proven guilty due to my confirmation that you are not an actress. I have proven with messages from FM and with Rep messages of my innocence. You have done NOTHING to prove you are innocent. You would have if you were, but you are not. You are also not the main focus anymore. Granted yes, you should be and will be lynched today when people start logging on and read my confirmation of Tats role (those that voted for Sasha will switch their votes over), but here is the bigger question. Why have no many people not voted yet? Granted, this late in the game, it would be stupid for a German to vote for another German. But that also makes it very easy to pin point who the remaining Germans are, as they have not voted or will not switch their votes from Sasha over.

All I see is two semi-confirmed Roleblockers. I'm not convinced, personally, which one of them would be the detainer.

[Svetlana]

Actually, I feel much safer doing this:

-vote Viktoria

Though I wonder if she's playing the same game that Matvei played.

[Moisey]

Prokofi, Andrei, Peotr, Fyodor, Ilya, Prokhor, Svetlana, Leonid, Evgheni and Sacha, we need three more votes to lynch Arkadi and prove Tatyana role and innocence. Please switch your votes to Arkadi or start participating in the lynch and cast your votes for Arkadi.

Arkadi (7): Jelana, Viteslav, Moisey, Krilil, Viktoria, Tatyana, Ania
Three votes needed to Lynch

[Moisey]

Actually, I feel much safer doing this:

-vote Viktoria

Though I wonder if she's playing the same game that Matvei played.

Svetlana, please vote Arkadi. The Anarchist or a town with a gun can shoot Viktoria tonight. We need the votes to get Arkadi and its worth it to prove Tatyana role. Please vote Arkadi.

[Arkadi]

Again, you are retarded. Please go read Day 3. Proves my role and not the German General. The detective would also be able to see who I visited on Day 3 and look, I didn't visit anyone because I don't have the ability too.

Please don't call me a retard and then proceed to misrepresent the game mechanics.

The General is immune to detection by Lookout, Detective and Militia

If Fyodor and Alexei both looked at you, you'd show up to the investigator as being peasant/german general/lenin. To Alexei you'd appear to be doing nothing at night.

Copying and pasting a pm that you were blocked does nothing to prove that you're a peasant, aside from implicate you in the missing german kill from last night. I guess we're just supposed to forget about that? Just as I can prove "nothing" about my role, you can not prove that you're not the german general. I can, however, prove that you're not the peasant.

A peasant, a loyal one to Russia and not the Bolsheviks at least, would have no reason to out themselves on day 3 as a peasant when the plan was to make you appear to be a town PR so you could take a bullet for one of the real PRs. You did not do that though, you wanted to make sure that everyone in the game thought you were a peasant. Explain to me how that is pro-town in any way, shape, or form. And try to do it without referring to me as a retard, please.

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, please vote Arkadi. The Anarchist or a town with a gun can shoot Viktoria tonight. We need the votes to get Arkadi and its worth it to prove Tatyana role. Please vote Arkadi.

Again, all I see is a 50/50 shot. Each are roleblockers, one is bad and one is good.

Viktoria is 100% scum at this point. She makes claims but doesn't follow through on fucking one of them. Arkadi is doing a really good job defending himself. I'm not saying he's innocent, but he's got chops, man.

If I'm going to vote for Arkadi, I need actual evidence that implicates him as more than just a roleblocker.

[Moisey]

Please don't call me a retard and then proceed to misrepresent the game mechanics.


If Fyodor and Alexei both looked at you, you'd show up to the investigator as being peasant/german general/lenin. To Alexei you'd appear to be doing nothing at night.

Retard, did you not go back and re-read day 3 like I asked you to. Alexei, Fyodor and I proved my roles and innocence already. Please don't have me re-say this again. Three times now should be enough. Go back and re-read.

[Moisey]

Again, all I see is a 50/50 shot. Each are roleblockers, one is bad and one is good.

Viktoria is 100% scum at this point. She makes claims but doesn't follow through on fucking one of them. Arkadi is doing a really good job defending himself. I'm not saying he's innocent, but he's got chops, man.

If I'm going to vote for Arkadi, I need actual evidence that implicates him as more than just a roleblocker.

How bout the fact that so many people have not voted for him yet? And quite a few of those people are suspected of being scummy. That in itself pushes things over the edge.

[Moisey]

Again, all I see is a 50/50 shot. Each are roleblockers, one is bad and one is good.

Viktoria is 100% scum at this point. She makes claims but doesn't follow through on fucking one of them. Arkadi is doing a really good job defending himself. I'm not saying he's innocent, but he's got chops, man.

If I'm going to vote for Arkadi, I need actual evidence that implicates him as more than just a roleblocker.

Plus all he's done now is talk a big game and try to point the finger away from him. In no way does he have any physical proof of his innocence. While Tat does. It's very open and shut case. Arkadi is a fool and is guilty. Plus he's getting pretty mad about it.

Instead of pointing fingers at other players Arkadi, what proof do you have of your innocence that does not implicate other players as scummy? Do you have ANY? Ya, didn't think so.

[Svetlana]

Retard, did you not go back and re-read day 3 like I asked you to. Alexei, Fyodor and I proved my roles and innocence already. Please don't have me re-say this again. Three times now should be enough. Go back and re-read.

I re read it. Arkadi presents a plausible alternative theory. He's not retarded.

All they did was prove that you took no night action. It is not proven you are a peasent, it is however proven that you are either a Peasent or the German General.

[Svetlana]

Plus all he's done now is talk a big game and try to point the finger away from him. In no way does he have any physical proof of his innocence. While Tat does. It's very open and shut case. Arkadi is a fool and is guilty. Plus he's getting pretty mad about it.

Instead of pointing fingers at other players Arkadi, what proof do you have of your innocence that does not implicate other players as scummy? Do you have ANY? Ya, didn't think so.

I'm sorry, but again, how can either of them prove that their not the detainer outside of a sheriff claim or a game throw?

[Arkadi]

Plus all he's done now is talk a big game and try to point the finger away from him. In no way does he have any physical proof of his innocence. While Tat does. It's very open and shut case. Arkadi is a fool and is guilty. Plus he's getting pretty mad about it.

Instead of pointing fingers at other players Arkadi, what proof do you have of your innocence that does not implicate other players as scummy? Do you have ANY? Ya, didn't think so.

What exactly would be my proof? Andrei did not deny that he was blocked by me on night 3. And Fyodor said he was blocked, and I said I was witched. It seems like you're trying to point fingers away from yourself, because at no point do I see why a peasant would say that Alexei was full of shit and that he was just a peasant, when that rep you just showed explains that Alexei knew you were a peasant and said what he said to make everything think you were actually a town PR.

Why didn't you want to take a bullet for the town? That's a question I have not seen answered anywhere else.

[Moisey]

I re read it. Arkadi presents a plausible alternative theory. He's not retarded.

All they did was prove that you took no night action. It is not proven you are a peasent, it is however proven that you are either a Peasent or the German General.

Thus lynching Arkadi would prove my innocence of being the German General. It also proves that Tat tells the truth, who has proven his work for the town every day/night thus far with the way he votes. Arkadi has not. Go collect every one of Arkadi posts from day 1 to 4 and just read this. Tell me that does not come off as German.

[Svetlana]

What exactly would be my proof? Andrei did not deny that he was blocked by me on night 3. And Fyodor said he was blocked, and I said I was witched. It seems like you're trying to point fingers away from yourself, because at no point do I see why a peasant would say that Alexei was full of shit and that he was just a peasant, when that rep you just showed explains that Alexei knew you were a peasant and said what he said to make everything think you were actually a town PR.

I'm still curious about the witch claims. Were there any others? And who were they?

Why didn't you want to take a bullet for the town? That's a question I have not seen answered anywhere else.

Easily explained in that he was or likely is a bolshevik if he's a peasant.

[Arkadi]

I'm still curious about the witch claims. Were there any others? And who were they?

I don't believe anyone else has claimed to be witched, so I suspect the witch has been sitting back and biding time until the game came down to a point like this where every day/night cycle counts. If quoting PMs is considered "evidence" then here's mine:

The night events

You were controlled to perform your action on a different target!

[Arkadi]

Which reminds me, I don't know what the role block message looks like, but can someone verify if what Moisey "copied" is accurate? I only ask because mine was a lot less wordy about being controlled than his was about being role-blocked.

[Moisey]

What exactly would be my proof? Andrei did not deny that he was blocked by me on night 3. And Fyodor said he was blocked, and I said I was witched. It seems like you're trying to point fingers away from yourself, because at no point do I see why a peasant would say that Alexei was full of shit and that he was just a peasant, when that rep you just showed explains that Alexei knew you were a peasant and said what he said to make everything think you were actually a town PR.

Why didn't you want to take a bullet for the town? That's a question I have not seen answered anywhere else.

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeetarded. You are such a super spy! You caught me! In less then 60 seconds I was able to write a long detailed RB message full of the FM Game Master information and the time of the post. Then again, in less then 60 seconds, I was able to write a PR message from Alexei that he wrote me on the 3rd day to prove my loyalty. I have been a leading part of the lynch of Germans since the very first day. Check out my day 3 and day 4 actions. Would someone playing Mafia go that out of their way to get the other Mafia lynched to prove their innocence to town? Would they also have Alexei and Fyodor, in the middle of the day, have a discussion whether they are innocent or not, would they agree that they should not only have a detective on them but an INVESTIGATOR as well? Stop being a fucking waste of space Arkadi.

Here, I know everyone likes picture books because when we were wonder it made things easier to understand. So let's try this out shall we.

Tat said right away that he RBed me, and claimed Actress. Arkadi also claimed actress. I have confirmed that Tat did in fact RB me. Arkadi guilt has now been added to. Arkadi still claims Actress, however....



Arkadi is....



of being a...



go back and read his posts from day 1 to 5, collected them and copy and paste each one to a word file. Read them and TELL me afterwords if he does come seem very....

Scummy!


In Russia, you interrupt Kayne West!

[Svetlana]

A thought occurs to me as I search our every one of Arkadi's posts to apease Moisey:

Sacha was looking like a solid lynch target for a little while. And then Moisey, who vehemently claims peasant goes ape shit over Arkadi and successfully diverts attention from what was presented as a probable Bolshevik.

If Moisey is a peasant, the likelyhood that he is still town, especially after day 3 is slim. It would explain the conviction on Arkadi based on very little actual evidence. It's also a successful vote-split, an all-too-common tactic among "scum".

This does not prove that Arkadi is innocent, even if true, but makes a lot of sense to me.

[Arkadi]

Moisey, I'm sorry, but which one of us is getting mad again?

You still haven't answered my question by the way, why didn't you want to take a bullet for the town by acting as a town PR?

I'm going to bed for now, but I hope I wake up to an answer before I'm lynched. I guess we'll see.

[Moisey]

A thought occurs to me as I search our every one of Arkadi's posts to apease Moisey:

Sacha was looking like a solid lynch target for a little while. And then Moisey, who vehemently claims peasant goes ape shit over Arkadi and successfully diverts attention from what was presented as a probable Bolshevik.

If Moisey is a peasant, the likelyhood that he is still town, especially after day 3 is slim. It would explain the conviction on Arkadi based on very little actual evidence. It's also a successful vote-split, an all-too-common tactic among "scum".

This does not prove that Arkadi is innocent, even if true, but makes a lot of sense to me.

I agree that Sasha is indeed Bolshevik and have already said that a killing role should take them out tonight. I have already said this.

INVESTIGATOR check me out tonight please. I want my innocence proven as well as as many other players innocence proven as possible. We have suspected Arkadi of being a German since early Day 4. Lynching Arkadi proves Tatyana innocence and then a night check from the Investigator proves mine. That's 2 more for sure town that we can add to the mix and as long as the Gunsmith keeps feeding me a gun, I will never be converted.

Lynch Arkadi today
Kill Sasha tonight.
Check my role tonight.

[Moisey]

You still haven't answered my question by the way, why didn't you want to take a bullet for the town by acting as a town PR?

To be completely honest? Didn't think of it. I had the detective and the Investigator both on me and when they asked my role/intentions I answered honestly. I find that during the day I'm pretty damn helpful of being pro-town and lynching Germans (except for the doctor... but that was due to a lying peasant more than anything.)

But why would I have taken the bullet? Tonight I can still prove my allegiance to town, prove the loyalty of another Russian, and get a German lynched.

[Vasili]

Wait, what the fuck? I found something really odd when I wanted to double check something with the roleblocks.

Arkadi (day 4):

I said that because I blocked Alexei night two, and surprise surprise, she didn't actually have anything on Moisey (who correctly pointed out that she was full of shit). Since her clearing of Tatyana rested on me, I wanted to see how she would react if I played along, and of course it went about as well as I suspected: Tatyana became a "proven town member" and I became scum.

Alexei's Last Will:
Night 1 - Jailed and Attacked
Night 2 - Arkadi visited Tatyana
Night 3 - Blocked and Given a Gun
Night 4 - Following Georgi. Shooting Fyodor

I just got back, but I noticed this pretty quickly.
Arkadi, explain this (preferably with all your blocks).

[Moisey]

the Gunsmith keeps feeding me a gun, I will never be converted.

And by keeps feeding I mean START feeding and continue to.

[Svetlana]

INVESTIGATOR check me out tonight please.

Check my role tonight.

Dude, what the fuck. That's the scummiest thing I've seen this game... most have already conceded that you're a peasant or the general. So not only are you directing town PRs, it's to check something we already believe to know? Please, dude, check that.

Arkadi, I believe is anything but German. Arkadi is the guy I argued with on day 2 about who to lynch: Sheriff or a Healer. I said Sheriff, he said Healer. I could believe he's Anarchist or Bolshevik or any neutral, but preferring the healer to a sheriff? Not very German, in my book.

I will concede the Arkadi acts very scummy, and was one of Alexei's biggest critics, but nothing he did screamed German to me.

So Moisey, doing what you asked me to do has lead me to the conclusion that Arkadi is not German. You're welcome.

[Moisey]

Not tonight though. Let the invest prove my innocence tonight before, if you deem it a good idea, give me a gun.

[Svetlana]

Wait, what the fuck? I found something really odd when I wanted to double check something with the roleblocks.





I just got back, but I noticed this pretty quickly.
Arkadi, explain this (preferably with all your blocks).

I did not catch that, good work dude. Follow up would be awesome.

[Svetlana]

Wait, what the fuck? I found something really odd when I wanted to double check something with the roleblocks.





I just got back, but I noticed this pretty quickly.
Arkadi, explain this (preferably with all your blocks).

Also, a post number and day would be awesome, as well.

[Vasili]

Also, a post number and day would be awesome, as well.

#170, Day 4. I'm rereading the thread again to compare Arkadi's and Tatyana's claims.

[Moisey]

Dude, what the fuck. That's the scummiest thing I've seen this game... most have already conceded that you're a peasant or the general. So not only are you directing town PRs, it's to check something we already believe to know? Please, dude, check that.

Svetlana just want to prove that I am town and have stayed loyal the entire game. What more do you want me to do? Invest check out whoever you'd like.

That has not prove Arkadi innocence from the amount of lies we have caught him in or Alexei's call on Day 4.

If he is Anarchist it still removes that from game and proves the innocence of Two Russian Players that you can trust 100%. Still does not cause town any Russian lives. This is the best lynch shot we have and let's take it.

[Svetlana]

#170, Day 4. I'm rereading the thread again to compare Arkadi's and Tatyana's claims.

Vasili just kind of fucked Arkadi up, here.

That was a bold lie to get someone lynched. Someone who turned out to be town. I think I'll change my vote now.

-vote Arkadi

I don't see much of a choice after that.

[Svetlana]

See, Moisey?

You've been ranting for hours now, and Vasili comes in with a single reference to a single post and schools you on evidential lynches.

You should be saying thank you.

[Moisey]

THANK YOU

[Moisey]

See, Moisey?

You've been ranting for hours now, and Vasili comes in with a single reference to a single post and schools you on evidential lynches.

You should be saying thank you.

Hey when I said go back and read, that post was part of it! I was wondering why no one was believing me!

[Vasili]

THANK YOU

Thanking me isn't going to make my suspicions of you go away, but it appears that we have a liar to deal with. I'd prefer to wait until Arkadi wakes up and defends himself, but I think I'll give the hammer to someone else. I also really don't see a way out of this for him after reading his other posts on day 4.

-vote Arkadi

[Svetlana]

Now either it shut Arkadi the fuck up, or he's re reading some shit. Or he's plotting. Either way, I'm set on that one.

But Arkadi, props dude. Aside from that one slip, you're a fucking PRO debater. A master debater, one might say.

Now only if Viktoria wasn't too much of a shit ass to come up with anything to back a single one of her claims. Something's up with that crazy chick.