Day V - Remember Remember.

[Fyodor]

I like v's, My name starts with a V. So does the name of the girl in my avatar. Her name is Victorique, hence why I chose her for my avatar

I posted that while I was at school on my kindle and the insert button is right next to the 'v' button. Trust me there are no hidden secrets going on.

[Andrei]

I like trains.

[Tatyana]

Vote Arkadi
So... I still think that Arkadi is the best lynch (and probably the safest one too). I advise we continue the lynch, as it would be wise to allow people as much time as possible to vote...

[Moisey]

Arkadi (6): Jelana, Viteslav, Moisey, Krilil, Viktoria, Tatyana
Four votes needed to Lynch

Sasha (3): Prokofi, Andrei, Peotr
Seven votes needed to lynch

Waiting for votes from Akradi, Fyodor, Ilya, Prokhor, Svetlana, Leonid, Evgheni (Not spoken in quite some time. AFK), Sacha and Ania.

In Russia, picture hang you!

[Fyodor]

I'd rather kill a general faking as citizen rather than a detainer faking as actress when the evidence behind the actress being a detainer is "The retard said he lied".

[Moisey]

I'd rather kill a general faking as citizen rather than a detainer faking as actress when the evidence behind the actress being a detainer is "The retard said he lied".

Fyodor who is your general faking as Citizen?

[Viktoria]

I'd rather kill a general faking as citizen rather than a detainer faking as actress when the evidence behind the actress being a detainer is "The retard said he lied".

s?
So you WANT the anarchist to join the Communists? Not exactly pro-town there

[Arkadi]

s?
So you WANT the anarchist to join the Communists? Not exactly pro-town there

Isn't Svetlana a german according to you? I'm curious why you're not pushing for his lynch? It's almost like you're hopping on whatever train you can find...

[Viktoria]

Isn't Svetlana a german according to you? I'm curious why you're not pushing for his lynch? It's almost like you're hopping on whatever train you can find...

No one wants to lynch someone. Staying on as the only person in a lynch doesn't help town at all. Its just being stubborn

[Arkadi]

No one wants to lynch someone. Staying on as the only person in a lynch doesn't help town at all. Its just being stubborn

Or it's backpedaling to keep heat off yourself. I guess we each have our own way of seeing things.

[Viktoria]

Well, you have talked yourself into a "you or someone else" situation, so a lynch on you is beneficial. I made a claim against Svetlana, which I believe to be correct; however, I did not role claim with my accusation, therefore, my claim has no value.

[Arkadi]

Well, you have talked yourself into a "you or someone else" situation, so a lynch on you is beneficial. I made a claim against Svetlana, which I believe to be correct; however, I did not role claim with my accusation, therefore, my claim has no value.

I don't think I've talked myself into a "you or someone else" situation, as the graveyard has already shown two propagandists. Two actresses is not out of a question. You're right, your accusation did not come with a role claim, and is effectively baseless. But so far you've listed me as "easily german" and Svetlana as "german" according to whatever role you are. I have yet to hear you hypothesize on who might be one of those dastardly communists. Isn't that curious?

[Viktoria]

I don't think I've talked myself into a "you or someone else" situation, as the graveyard has already shown two propagandists. Two actresses is not out of a question. You're right, your accusation did not come with a role claim, and is effectively baseless. But so far you've listed me as "easily german" and Svetlana as "german" according to whatever role you are. I have yet to hear you hypothesize on who might be one of those dastardly communists. Isn't that curious?

If you paid attention yesterday, I made a general scum list. Not a general German list.

[Arkadi]

If you paid attention yesterday, I made a general scum list. Not a general German list.

I've seen a lot of scum lists lately, and my name is usually situated somewhere near your own. I just don't want everyone else to forget that if this lynch goes through.

[Viktoria]

Well I'm just curious why you're pinpointing me, and not getting some of the lurkers who most likely, one being Stalin, and one being the German General

[Ania]

Sorry people, due to my modkill I had to read this thread over. And Arkadi certainly sounds scummy. I assure you that I did not lie about the modkill. Anyhow, I will be assisting you on the lynch.[B][
-Vote Arkadi
[B] Arkadi (7): Jelana, Viteslav, Moisey, Krilil, Viktoria, Tatyana, Ania
Three votes needed to Lynch

Sasha (3): Prokofi, Andrei, Peotr
Seven votes needed to lynch

Waiting for votes from Akradi, Fyodor, Ilya, Prokhor, Svetlana, Leonid, Evgheni (Not spoken in quite some time. AFK) and Sacha.[B]

[Ania]

Sorry people, due to my modkill I had to read this thread over. And Arkadi certainly sounds scummy. I assure you that I did not lie about the modkill. Anyhow, I will be assisting you on the lynch.[B][
-Vote Arkadi
Arkadi (7): Jelana, Viteslav, Moisey, Krilil, Viktoria, Tatyana, Ania
Three votes needed to Lynch

Sasha (3): Prokofi, Andrei, Peotr
Seven votes needed to lynch

Waiting for votes from Akradi, Fyodor, Ilya, Prokhor, Svetlana, Leonid, Evgheni (Not spoken in quite some time. AFK) and Sacha.

^ Fixed

[Arkadi]

Well I'm just curious why you're pinpointing me, and not getting some of the lurkers who most likely, one being Stalin, and one being the German General

A mislynch right now would pretty much seal the deal for scum, so I doubt the true lurkers are anything more than that, it's the people that have suddenly become aggressive with their voting in the last two days that I'm really curious about. Like Ilya who quite literally came out of nowhere to vote me. And you, who tries to blend into whatever the majority is headed towards.

[Viktoria]

How is that me, "becoming aggressive," if I'm, "blending in" ?

Well, if you don't want there to be a lynch on you, PROVE to everyone voting you that you are in fact the actress, and that either A: Tatyanna is lying, or B: There are two actresses, which seems nearly impossible with the amount of claimed power roles that have substance. I don't know if Tatyanna is just a better talker than you are, but to me, you are far more scummy than her, and a proven power role (Alexei) has claimed you are Detainer.

[Fyodor]

How is that me, "becoming aggressive," if I'm, "blending in" ?

Well, if you don't want there to be a lynch on you, PROVE to everyone voting you that you are in fact the actress, and that either A: Tatyanna is lying, or B: There are two actresses, which seems nearly impossible with the amount of claimed power roles that have substance. I don't know if Tatyanna is just a better talker than you are, but to me, you are far more scummy than her, and a proven power role (Alexei) has claimed you are Detainer.

Alexei didn't confirm shit he, like all of you, can't assume there are 2 actresses. If Alexei was a detainer he would have blocked Svetlana and if he was an actress he would try to block a german. He blocked Andrei N3 and there was only 1 German kill and he tried again last night and got witched. That doesn't seem very anti-town to me. His only crime is that he thinks he blocked Alexei N2 and didn't apparently.

I'm still partial to Sacha. Sacha was extremely aggressive early and then completely dropped off the map for the rest of the game. I would only be that confrontational if I was either a citizen or faking a citizen. We have 2 roleblocks now and we still have to deal with the Bolsheviks kill which can easily reach 2 very soon. You may all think "Oh lynching the general is a horrible idea!" Yeah, if we didn't have 2 roleblockers and know who the fucking Anarchist was, we'd be able to block him every night AND search for the german killer each night IF we had 2 roleblockers.

So, Sacha = Dead and if Sacha = General then we block force Svet into attacking Stalin targets(he'll aim at scummy players rather than probable town like Tatyana and I) and the Mafia are weakened by us killing the general. So yeah, I'm all for lynching the General if it means Svet won't be able to choose whomever he wants to win. Then when Svet does eventually find and kill Stalin he loses because we know who he is already and can block him from recruiting anymore while we deal with the few remaining german roles if existent at that point.

[Leonid]

My response to the reps:

@Svetlana
I'm surprised that they managed to find my COM identity even though I tried to post beyond my usual time (I posted at 2-3am) and tried to just a different playstyle. I suppose that my posts on Day4 and me calling you Dimwit had exposed myself. While I do not send you the reps, I'm not sure who sent it. I believe that someone is trying to make me a scapegoat for lynching and to destroy my credibility. I don't think it's a revenge tactic from you. I also feel that the person who sent you the rep tried to prevent me from defending you. If I defend you then I am scum. If you reply to the rep then I will mark you as scum.

@Viktoria
Sorry but I did not send you the rep. First of all, your "confirmation code" is wrong. And Svetlana does not have my "confirmation code". At least I know that I'm not framed by the people I have sent rep before.

[Arkadi]

How is that me, "becoming aggressive," if I'm, "blending in" ?

Well, if you don't want there to be a lynch on you, PROVE to everyone voting you that you are in fact the actress, and that either A: Tatyanna is lying, or B: There are two actresses, which seems nearly impossible with the amount of claimed power roles that have substance. I don't know if Tatyanna is just a better talker than you are, but to me, you are far more scummy than her, and a proven power role (Alexei) has claimed you are Detainer.

I've given all the proof I can. I can't convince you of probability, I can only point two dead propagandists in the graveyard. Alexei was a detective, not an investigator. She has shown throughout this game that she is willing to lie to get whatever result she believes to be the correct one. Look at her last will, she shot Fyodor when she said she was going to shoot me in the day chat. And she listed Nadezhda as scum when Nad was the jailor. Not to mention that you are also on Alexei's scum list. The proven power role's list that is.

So pretty much every argument you have against me leads right back to you being a good lynch target. I've claimed a role, but you have not. Why is that? Is that because there's no more room on the list for your claim?

[Viktoria]

I've given all the proof I can. I can't convince you of probability, I can only point two dead propagandists in the graveyard. Alexei was a detective, not an investigator. She has shown throughout this game that she is willing to lie to get whatever result she believes to be the correct one. Look at her last will, she shot Fyodor when she said she was going to shoot me in the day chat. And she listed Nadezhda as scum when Nad was the jailor. Not to mention that you are also on Alexei's scum list. The proven power role's list that is.

So pretty much every argument you have against me leads right back to you being a good lynch target. I've claimed a role, but you have not. Why is that? Is that because there's no more room on the list for your claim?

Claiming is not helpful when I don't have any useful information.

[Arkadi]

Claiming is not helpful when I don't have any useful information.

So you lied about Svetlana being german? That's not very pro-town, eh?

[Viktoria]

So you lied about Svetlana being german? That's not very pro-town, eh?

Using information people slip, like Svetlana did and pretending to be a power role so people believe your info is pro-town. I knew Svetlana wasn't town with intuition. I haven't started a persecution on someone (voting them) that I do not believe to be scum.

[Viktoria]

I NEVER lied

[Leonid]

Oh, and one last thing (this is very important). This is how things currently stand...

4 Germans
3+ Bolsheviks (at least 2 proletarians)
1 Anarchist
7- Russians (subtract 2+ proletarians from 9 Russians)
4 Hidden Any

As for Random town power roles, we know that there is an armorsmith and that there is an actress, which leaves 1 more power role (I can't remember, but was that the lookout?). I would appreciate it if people could rep me their role, as I would like to better figure this out.

Assuming no lynch and no kills tonight, by tomorrow:
4 Germans
3-5 Bolsheviks
1 Anarchist
5-7 Russians
4 Hidden Any (I assume 2 neutrals and 2 Russians)

For the hidden neutrals, I expect to see martyr but I do not see anyone acting scummy and trying to get lynched. Witch, maybe for German-Bolshevik war. And that will be bad news. I don't think we have the time hunting evil neutrals. Arsonist, unlikely because KPN will be too high.

[Moisey]

I'd rather kill a general faking as citizen rather than a detainer faking as actress when the evidence behind the actress being a detainer is "The retard said he lied".

With the amount that some people are posting (not much at all, and some none at all) and with 7 votes already for Arkadi it looks like this is our best bet tonight Fyodor. We have said numerous times why we think Arkadi is evil, but look at this fact. Quite a few people have not voted for Arkadi as well, and the majority of those who have not voted yet are suspected scum. This in itself is another lead that Arkadi should be lynched today. While getting the German General would be best lynch, if we cannot get the votes required in time, its best to still lynch the target that has the best odds of being evil. Check the odds.

In Russia, you stab sword!

[Fyodor]

Day will end when someone is lynched or a majority no lynch vote goes through. If the vote stalls, it ends 60 hours from now.

lol I think we have plenty of time.

[Leonid]

I want to make full use of the day. Scummy Germans and Bolsheviks pushed for Nikifor's death quickly yesterday before we can have any meaningful discussion regarding the lurking scums. Are you sure it's only 60 hours? I recall it's unlimited?

[Leonid]

I'll be back later to give my opinion on lynch worthy targets.

[Leonid]

Balance of power:

Russian
Allies: Anarchist
Enemies: German = Bolsheviks = Witch

German
Allies: Witch
Enemies: Anarchist = Bolsheviks = Russian

Bolsheviks
Allies: Anarchist > Witch
Enemies: German = Russian

Witch
Allies: German = Bolsheviks > Anarchist
Enemies: Russian

Anarchist
Allies: Bolsheviks > Town
Enemies: German > Witch

[Fyodor]

I enjoy that the Germans are the only team that have the anarchist as it's enemy when as I've said before the anarchist is completely neutral and can side with anyone it wants much like a witch after it kills the German general at night.

You just have to hope he doesn't find the General too soon because it looks an awful lot like Svetlana doesn't like me too much and if he finds the general he'll probably side with the Bolsheviks for my 'betrayal' of sorts.

[Leonid]

Additional notes: The above is after Nicholas II died. When Nicholas II alive and Lenin dead (Day 4):

Russian
Allies: None
Enemies: German = Bolsheviks = Witch = Anarchist

German
Allies: Witch
Enemies: Bolsheviks = Russian > Anarchist

Bolsheviks
Allies: Anarchist > Witch
Enemies: German = Russian

Witch
Allies: German = Bolsheviks > Anarchist
Enemies: Russian

Anarchist
Allies: Bolsheviks
Enemies: German = Town > Witch

[Leonid]

I enjoy that the Germans are the only team that have the anarchist as it's enemy when as I've said before the anarchist is completely neutral and can side with anyone it wants much like a witch after it kills the German general at night.

You just have to hope he doesn't find the General too soon because it looks an awful lot like Svetlana doesn't like me too much and if he finds the general he'll probably side with the Bolsheviks for my 'betrayal' of sorts.

You are a fool for hunting the Anarchist yesterday. I don't know what Nicholas II told you, but I've been hinting on the possibility of a witch early on. And no. Default alliance for Anarchist is Bolsheviks (even when Lenin is alive) as an insurance of lynching the General or Lenin. If we want to ensure Anarchist siding with town, lynching Stalin is a must (leaving Stalin to die at night means that Anarchist will still side with Bolsheviks as an insurance).

[Svetlana]

Using information people slip, like Svetlana did and pretending to be a power role so people believe your info is pro-town. I knew Svetlana wasn't town with intuition. I haven't started a persecution on someone (voting them) that I do not believe to be scum.

First you say I slipped information and then you claim that you came to it by intuition. This is called a contradiction.

I would also love for you to reveal whatever information I slipped. Because up until this point, you're claim came from nothing. Try to avoid being ambiguous and reference an actual post I made that slipped any manner of information.

I need to get something else strait.

Alexei didn't confirm shit he, like all of you, can't assume there are 2 actresses. If Alexei was a detainer he would have blocked Svetlana and if he was an actress he would try to block a german. He blocked Andrei N3 and there was only 1 German kill and he tried again last night and got witched. That doesn't seem very anti-town to me. His only crime is that he thinks he blocked Alexei N2 and didn't apparently.

So Arkadi and Tatyana claim actress.

Arkadi claims to have blocked Andrei night 3, using that as evidence that Andrei is German since there was only 1 German kill. Problem is, I was attacked by the Germans, I am absolutely sure. As I already theorized that it explained why a train started on me out of nowhere yesterday. The Anarchist couldn't have done that, and there's no other reason why it would have started.

And he tried to block Andrei again on night 4, but was witched onto Fyodor? What are our other witch claims? Are we certain there is a witch? Sounds like a perfect excuse, to me.

Tatyana claims to have roleblocked Moisey last night, but Moisey hasn't denied nor confirmed this in any capacity; curious. Even more curious that no one seems to care.

[Leonid]

I enjoy that the Germans are the only team that have the anarchist as it's enemy when as I've said before the anarchist is completely neutral and can side with anyone it wants much like a witch after it kills the German general at night.

You just have to hope he doesn't find the General too soon because it looks an awful lot like Svetlana doesn't like me too much and if he finds the general he'll probably side with the Bolsheviks for my 'betrayal' of sorts.

Just the vote I guess. Even that is bad because we lack votes. I recall Anarchist losing immunity and can't kill after winning. As for finding the General sooner or later, I don't know. Depends on who Anarchist is siding with.

Just like Sin FM, I want to predict how the votes will go in a few days. I don't want to end up weakening the Germans but having insufficient votes to hunt Bolsheviks. That's why I'm now trying to guess the roles of Hidden Any.

[Leonid]

Tatyana claims to have roleblocked Moisey last night, but Moisey hasn't denied nor confirmed this in any capacity; curious. Even more curious that no one seems to care.

I thought Alexei said that Moisey have no night actions? Fyodor even confirmed Moisey as peasant?

[Arkadi]

First you say I slipped information and then you claim that you came to it by intuition. This is called a contradiction.

So Arkadi and Tatyana claim actress.

Arkadi claims to have blocked Andrei night 3, using that as evidence that Andrei is German since there was only 1 German kill. Problem is, I was attacked by the Germans, I am absolutely sure. As I already theorized that it explained why a train started on me out of nowhere yesterday. The Anarchist couldn't have done that, and there's no other reason why it would have started.

And he tried to block Andrei again on night 4, but was witched onto Fyodor? What are our other witch claims? Are we certain there is a witch? Sounds like a perfect excuse, to me.

Tatyana claims to have roleblocked Moisey last night, but Moisey hasn't denied nor confirmed this in any capacity; curious. Even more curious that no one seems to care.

Actually I said yesterday that it was a possibility he was german, but since today I was witched and the anarchist got a kill off I believed he was anarchist. Then again, if he was really the anarchist you'd think he'd be fine with getting me lynched but he has unvoted. So I don't know what to think anymore about that. I can't do more than give everyone the information I get from my blocks. There is a witch, you don't have to believe me or not, but I was controlled last night. Not much else I can say about that.

I'm glad you brought up the Moisey thing, I wanted to ask about it earlier but seeing as how I'm slowly working my way up to the gallows I thought it'd go on deaf ears. I also assumed that since he never said "she lied I wasn't roleblocked" we were just going to take it as truth. But since you're going to bring it up, allow me to just throw out a possibility:

We can assume Moisey is a peasant from day 3 when Alexei said she followed him and he revealed he didn't go anywhere. If we also assume that he has been converted by the Bolsheviks by now, then what if Tatyana was also a Bolshevik with a lying actress claim? Since Tatyana's "target" was going to be Larissa, who turned out to be Lenin, it would've been a good cover had Larissa lived since she'd be lying for her Bolshevik buddy. Now Tatyana blocks Moisey, who in this conspiracy theory is on her team, who then confirms it to keep up the illusion that Tatyana is an actress.

[Moisey]

Tatyana claims to have roleblocked Moisey last night, but Moisey hasn't denied nor confirmed this in any capacity; curious. Even more curious that no one seems to care.

Well.........

"stranger approached you, and occupied you the whole night. Your mind is a blur and you can not remember their face. You were roleblocked!"

I can now say that Tatyana is CORRECT that I was RBed last night. Wanted to see how much more lying Arkadi would do before I revealed. Chance of there being TWO actresses? Hey C-3P0, what are the odds of navigating an asteroid field?

C-3P0: "Sir, the possibility of successfully navigating an asteroid field is approximately 3720 to 1!"

And what are the odds of us having TWO actresses?

C-3P0: "5801 to 1!"

Thanks C-3P0! Everyone give him a hand! Well well well, what do we have here? A confirmation of Tatyana and a lying scummy Arkadi.

If this does not cause three people to instantly vote for Arkadi, nothing will.

In Russia, Han Solo wants to be told the odds!

[Svetlana]

Well.........

"stranger approached you, and occupied you the whole night. Your mind is a blur and you can not remember their face. You were roleblocked!"

I can now say that Tatyana is CORRECT that I was RBed last night. Wanted to see how much more lying Arkadi would do before I revealed. Chance of there being TWO actresses? Hey C-3P0, what are the odds of navigating an asteroid field?

C-3P0: "Sir, the possibility of successfully navigating an asteroid field is approximately 3720 to 1!"

And what are the odds of us having TWO actresses?

C-3P0: "5801 to 1!"

Thanks C-3P0! Everyone give him a hand! Well well well, what do we have here? A confirmation of Tatyana and a lying scummy Arkadi.

If this does not cause three people to instantly vote for Arkadi, nothing will.

In Russia, Han Solo wants to be told the odds!

I don't know, man. Arkadi brings up a pretty awesome point.

[Moisey]

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A stranger approached you, and occupied you the whole night. Your mind is a blur and you can not remem

[Moisey]

that got messed at up the end. Here is a quick copy and paste. Not enough time for me to type this all out myself.

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A stranger approached you, and occupied you the whole night. Your mind is a blur and you can not remember their face. You were roleblocked!
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[Moisey]

That should easy disprove his theory.

[Viktoria]

He does, but honestly, this is all just speculation until someone is lynched. Either Arkadi to either A: Prove his innocence or B: Prove his guilt (which is more probable) or Sacha to send a message out to lurkers that they need to play or will be punished accordingly

[Viktoria]

Can anyone prove that that's the right roleblock message? Or did Oops say something about changing the words in PMs

[Moisey]

Either Arkadi to either A: Prove his innocence or B: Prove his guilt (which is more probable) or Sacha to send a message out to lurkers that they need to play or will be punished accordingly

Tatyana roleblocked me last night and proved he was not a liar. Arkadi had done NOTHING to prove his innocence. Just come up with speculations and scenarios. The reality is Tatyana claimed that he RBed me and I waited to see the lies that Arkadi would come up with to use as evidence when the vote came to a halt to force the remaining Germans to force a lynch or look too suspicious they throw the game. Which is the point we are at right now.

[Ania]

I have been observing for a while and it struck me as ridiculous the fact that Arkadi isn't lynched yet.Well I will be going off and I hope like hell he gets lynched. Nothing brightens my day more than seeing a scum's decapitated body flop on the ground.

[Svetlana]

Isn't there some rule against copy-pasting PMs? Or was that exclusively FM VI?

[Arkadi]

Well.........

"stranger approached you, and occupied you the whole night. Your mind is a blur and you can not remember their face. You were roleblocked!"

I can now say that Tatyana is CORRECT that I was RBed last night. Wanted to see how much more lying Arkadi would do before I revealed. Chance of there being TWO actresses? Hey C-3P0, what are the odds of navigating an asteroid field?

C-3P0: "Sir, the possibility of successfully navigating an asteroid field is approximately 3720 to 1!"

And what are the odds of us having TWO actresses?

C-3P0: "5801 to 1!"

Thanks C-3P0! Everyone give him a hand! Well well well, what do we have here? A confirmation of Tatyana and a lying scummy Arkadi.

If this does not cause three people to instantly vote for Arkadi, nothing will.

In Russia, Han Solo wants to be told the odds!

Could C3P0 calculate the odds of two propagandists for me please?

Also, I don't see how questioning whether or not you were actually role blocked makes me scum. The odds of you being recruited by the Bolsheviks after you essentially openly admitted to being a peasant are pretty high, so it's not like my theory is completely out of the realm of possibilities. At this point you're either a recruited bolshevik peasant, the witch who didn't start controlling until now, or the german general who would appear to do nothing when followed by a detective. Regardless of what one, you should probably add your own name to that list in your signature.

WHICH JUST REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING: We're missing a german kill. No one has claimed to be healed or attacked. TATYANA BLOCKED MOISEY LAST NIGHT. Think what you will of that.