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    Day V - Remember Remember.

    With every passing day, spirits grew in the city of Petrograd. With two dangerous criminals executed the previous day, the people believed that under the Tsar’s guidance, nothing would stop them from exterminating the criminals of Petrograd and making the city and Empire secure again.

    However, just as most of the city began to fall into a good-night’s sleep, the silence was broken by a deafening roar. A massive shockwave spread through the city, breaking windows and shaking buildings by their very foundations. The people glanced out the window and saw a plume of smoke on top of an apartment glowing red with flames. Some ran towards the bomb shelter, fearing that the city was being bombed by invading German forces, while others ran towards the site of the explosion to help with fighting the flames. After an hour, the flames were mostly under control, and investigation began as to the cause of the explosion.

    Laying outside the building, the body of Alexei was found, twisted and bludgeoned almost beyond recognition. He was found clutching a piece of paper with the following written on it:

    “Night 1 - Jailed and Attacked
    Night 2 - Arkadi visited Tatyana
    Night 3 - Blocked and Given a Gun
    Night 4 - Following Georgi. Shooting Fyodor

    If Fyodor is innocent I am sorry but with the information I had I would do it again. The constant lies, trying to lynch the anarchist, defending and buddying with obvious mafia, pushing for my lynch day 1 like the rest of the scum, loads of scum tells through his posts, raging that I don’t fall for his lies that he later admits were lies / wrong, duplicate investigators, no other inves claims, barely any PR slots (there is almost definitely a sheriff), constantly changing his lynch targets + plans when they fail, kill lists containing loads of town, pad locking his inves claim day 1 then lying to the jailor about being a bg, Viktoria saying I should coordinate my kill with the jailor when they control the jailor, slipping when he said Leonid was the armoursmith and Leonid not coming on to say who he gave armour to + no armour evidence.

    The only reason I have any doubts about him is because the jailor trusts him but he refuses to tell me why. If he didn’t lie about the armoursmith then his armour will protect him, even then that won’t make him innocent as he could have fooled the armoursmith like he fooled the jailor.

    Germans

    Arkadi – Detainer (confirmed)
    Fyodor - Spy
    Leonid – Sapper? Spotter?
    Viktoria – General, who attacked Svet?
    Evgheni - Medic? (could be other scum)

    Anarchist

    Svetlana

    Other Scum (in any faction or neuts)

    Vasili (probably)
    Georgi (probably, Stalin?)
    Sacha (maybe)
    Mihail (maybe)
    Jelena (maybe but town wouldn't be much of a surprise)
    Nadezhda (maybe but town wouldn't be that much of a surprise)
    Prokofi (scum or neutral probably)

    Town

    Tatyana
    Andrei (very likely)
    Kirill (very likely)
    Yakov (probably)
    Viteslav (probably)
    Moisey (probably, if cit before could be bolshevik now)

    Then you have the rest of the lurkers who I can’t read. Some of them will be scum but don't focus on them yet with all the known scum we have.

    YOU NEED TO HELP SVETLANA THE ANARCHIST. Make sure not to lynch her targets and sacrifice the jailor to her at the end. She is an extra KPN against scum and we need her if we are to have any chance of winning.

    I really hope that a lurking sheriff reveals himself soon as we almost surely have one. He will take up one of the random PR slots so you can see how little of them are left. Don't believe any sheriff claim that Viktoria makes, she is 100% german.”

    Inside the building, closer to ground zero, the body of Yakov, identified by papers in his front jacket pocket as a German explosives expert, lay, broken even more than the body of Alexei. It was deduced that Yakov discovered that Alexei was one of Petrograd’s top detectives, despite Alexei’s attempt to cover up his identity, and targeted him for assassination. However, Alexei has returned home sooner than Yakov had expected, and the explosives detonated before Yakov could escape. As well as his identity papers, another note was found in his pocket, this one apparently having the lyrics to some song on them:

    “Wait, wake up in the morning to the clear blue sky
    Turn up the music when I hop in the ride
    The windows down let the whole world see
    Can’t nobody rock it like the little old me

    I’m the bomb and I’m ’bout to blow up
    I’m the bomb and I’m ’bout to blow up

    I got my chucks and my dickies and I put it on black
    Banging Sinatra in the black cadillac
    My old lady leaning out the whole window
    Everybody lookin’ when we walk in slow

    I’m the bomb and I’m ’bout to blow up
    I’m the bomb and I’m ’bout to blow up

    Wait, 1 for the money and a 2 for the show
    but 3 to be a legend even if I’m poor
    I ain’t chasin’ nothin’ you gon’ have to catch me
    and if you wanna taste you gon’ have to pay a fee

    I’m the bomb and I’m ’bout to blow up
    I’m the bomb and I’m ’bout to blow up

    Call my mama, in-laws and my little scarecrows?
    When they hear my record well they all hit the floor
    Babies rock a pose c’mon fill the front row
    The homies in the back tip their hats real low

    I’m the bomb and I’m ’bout to blow up
    I’m the bomb and I’m ’bout to blow up

    Ok, come on everybody won’t you clap your hands
    White folks do it on time if they can
    Sounds good, now here’s the plan
    Let’s all sing together like we’re in the same band

    I’m the bomb and I’m ’bout to blow up
    I’m the bomb and I’m ’bout to blow up
    I’m the bomb and I’m ’bout to blow up
    I’m the bomb and I’m ……. ………….

    Now, we’re gonna reach another whole new level
    Grabbin’ the light on the run from the devil (watch out)
    Been downtown for too long
    I feel the sun risin’ all up in my bones

    I’m the bomb and I’m ’bout to blow up
    I’m the bomb and I’m ’bout …to BLOW UP

    Auf wiedersehen! :3”

    Among the people helping to clean up the wreckage was the peasant Gregori, who only wanted to help the city he loved. While cleaning up, he noticed a slip of paper on the ground, that apparently fell out of Yakov’s pocket when the explosion occured. He unfolded the paper and found that it had written on it a list of aliases that the German invaders were using. But before he could show it to anyone, a sharp-eyed German soldier, also helping clean up the wreckage to provide cover for himself, shot Gregori once in the head, and threw the slip of paper into the remaining fire. By the time anybody discovered Gregori, the German soldier was long-gone.

    Once the fire was entirely put out, the town made a startling discovery. In the fire, the charred body of Mihail was found, wrapped in a charred black and red flag of the anarcho-communist movement. He was gagged and bound, and it seemed as if he was thrown into the fire after the explosion, still living. In his pocket, a note from his killer was discovered:

    ||| tonight i kill suspicious mihail ||| mihail is too cautious and thus has something to hide ||| now we should know what that is ||| not for town ||| i do this for my win conditions |||

    ||| do not tell the anarchist who to kill ||| alexei and fyodor should not make lists in day with targets to kill ||| i will not conform to you ||| if you continue this you will die ||| next night kill will waste itself on the next person to aim my target |||

    ||| mob also wants to ally the anarchist according to friend ||| i choose no ally ||| maybe end of today will decide ||| for now i neutral evening up lopsided game |||


    Meanwhile, the Bolsheviks saw all this confusion and chaos as a chance to strike at the heart of the Russian Empire. The young but capable Red Army marched forth to the Winter Palace, with Joseph Stalin at the front lines. The troops deeply desired to avenge their comrade, Lenin, and were willing to go to great lengths to do so. The troops effortlessly invaded the Winter Palace, killing the few guards that were there, and advanced to the Tsar’s personal quarters. The startled Nicholas II, who used the alias Nadezhda to protect his identity, could do nothing but watch as he and his family were tied up, thrown into a truck, and taken away to some unknown, distant location.

    The next morning, the town gathered again, weary and tired from the previous night. However, this time, Nicholas II was not there to lead the town. After several minutes of confusion, it was announced that Nicholas II has been kidnapped, and that the Russian Empire will now be run by an elected state Duma. The citizens began to mourn their lost leader, him having helped them execute several dangerous criminals. As per his wishes, the following note was released to the public:
    “Greetings Loyal Subjects of Russia.

    Let this be my final decree as I can feel the clutches of death coming in all around me.

    Day 1 I Jailed Alexei. My Trust in this guy has wavered as this game has continued, however he has yet to fail his disguiser check and I did save him from being shot by the germans as he was on jail. So he cant be german yet. I have given his disguiser code to Fyodor however, so if he fails it... Fyo will know.

    Day 2 I jailed Fyodor, he is also a loyal subject of the Empire. So Loyal he agreed to claim Czar and put himself in the firing line. I trust him well above all others and give him the title of temporary Czar until the Germans are eradicated.

    Day 3 I found Vladimir Lenin and hung him on the gallows for all to see. He claimed cit in jail and proceeded to tell me how he was a reserve and was replaced and some other obviously fabricated story.

    Day 4 I jailed Viteslav. I trust his claim, which is why he still stands today. However, he has a job to do tomorrow night, that again, Fyodor will tell you if he succeeded or not.

    All in all Fyodor and Leonid are the only two people as of writing that I 100% trust in Russia. Let these two be your guides through these troubled times. Do not forget my Lurker list from Day 4 page 13 as well.

    I expect to see your grand reveal, Andrei, from dead chat.”

    Furthermore, the following was printed in the Petrograd newspaper, circulated to all the citizens, written by an anonymous author:

    Red = bold liar
    yellow = empowered manipulator

    Viktoria
    Mihail
    Leonid
    Nadezhda
    Vitislav
    Prokofi


    Fyodor
    Moisey
    Alexei



    German death note left nearby the explosion site read:

    Alexey's Adventure.





    Town Population:

    General
    Medic
    Spotter
    Hidden German


    Gunsmith
    Journalist

    Hidden Town power
    Hidden Town Power
    Hidden Town Power


    Peasant/Bolshevik (Unknown Amount)
    Peasant
    Peasant
    Peasant


    Hidden Any (Peasant, Neutral, PR)
    Hidden Any
    Hidden Any
    Hidden Any

    Stalin


    Anarchist


    Graveyard:

    Oleg (Teacher) - Shot by a bolt-action Mauser outside the school.
    Maksim (Peasant) - Stabbed in a hurry with a kitchen knife and left to bleed out. (Anarchist)
    Matvei (Peasant) - Choked to death (Anarchist)
    Juri (Peasant) and Galina (Investigator) - Shot with a German military rifle
    Jaroslav (Peasant) - Beaten to death by an angry Peasant crowd
    Gavril (Doctor) - Shot on the spot by the Royal Guard
    Nikita (Teacher) - Killed in a Bolshevik riot
    Dimitri (Citizen) - Killed in a German assault
    Praskovia (Propagandist) - Shot with a gun made by a Russian craftsman
    Sergei (Propagandist) - Went missing on duty
    Alexei (Detective) - Mutilated by a powerful explosion
    Nadezhda (Nicholas II) - Kidnapped by the Red Army, fate unknown.
    Georgi (Peasant) - Shot in the head by a German spy.

    Igor (Soldier) - Executed by the Royal Guard
    Nikifor (Forger) - Executed by the Royal Guard
    Mihail (Framer) - Thrown into the fire by the Anarchist
    Yakov (Sapper) - Blew up while setting a bomb at Alexei's house

    Larisa (Lenin) - Publicly hanged on the strangely familiar gallows


    Day will end when someone is lynched or a majority no lynch vote goes through. If the vote stalls, it ends 60 hours from now.

    You need 10 votes to lynch!
    Last edited by Forum Mafia GM; January 23rd, 2012 at 03:00 AM.

  2. ISO #2
    Tatyana
    Guest

    Re: Day 5 - Remember Remember.

    Good morning everyone.

    First off, I would like to mourn my dear friend Alexei... though his intentions may have never been clear, I trusted him for the vast majority of the game and I it appears that my trust was not forsaken. However, I must apologize to him as I chose not to roleblock Arkadi, but instead to roleblock Moisey (who I've suspected for some time). Ironically enough, the two people I trusted the most as of last night were Alexei and Fyodor (even though they happened to be bitter enemies at the time)...

    Oh, and FIRST!

  3. ISO #3
    Tatyana
    Guest

    Re: Day 5 - Remember Remember.

    Now, for other things:
    1) My thanks go out to the anarchist (whether you are Svetlana or not). Your service to the Russian people will not be forgotten, and your help is greatly appreciated. After the attack of the Red Army, we the Russian people would gladly support the execution of Stalin.
    2) Today is a great day, for the Germans have been reduced to 1 KPN. It is also important to note that 1 german KPN is missing anyway... I roleblocked Moisey, so I am suspicious... It's also important to note that the Bolsheviks have at least 2 Proletariats since they still have a KPN.
    3) Alexei shot Fyodor. Did Fyodor use his armor?
    4) So... yesterday was incredibly confusing, but the night gave me some time to think and I am pretty confident that Arkadi is a German (fell for Fyodor's fiasco, which I still condemn by the way :P), and seeing the aftermath of tonight's actions makes me pretty sure that Moisey is also a German (maybe even the General). Of course, I would still love evidence to confirm or dispute these revelations...

  4. ISO #4
    Tatyana
    Guest

    Re: Day 5 - Remember Remember.

    Oh, and one last thing (this is very important). This is how things currently stand...

    4 Germans
    3+ Bolsheviks (at least 2 proletarians)
    1 Anarchist
    7- Russians (subtract 2+ proletarians from 9 Russians)
    4 Hidden Any

    As for Random town power roles, we know that there is an armorsmith and that there is an actress, which leaves 1 more power role (I can't remember, but was that the lookout?). I would appreciate it if people could rep me their role, as I would like to better figure this out.

  5. ISO #5
    Prokofi
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    ....
    the person with the gun(obviously Alexei) decided not to shoot me.

    the Germans has just been sent down to 4 members.

    Therefore, we should weaken the Bolsheviks.(don't want any scum to get too strong)

  6. ISO #6
    Prokofi
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    the situation for town wasn't as bad as i taught.

    my guess is that 2 of the rand.neus were town, 1 was the drunkard(teacher),1 neutral

    my guess is that Moisey is german.

    i guess the missing German kill was
    1) roleblocked (moisey)
    2)vested (???)
    3)healed(pretty much impossible)
    4)hit immune target (Viteslav was jailed, Svetlana is almost certainly the Anarchist)
    5)hit Nadezha(bolshevik target)


    will we know if there was a double-kill?

  7. ISO #7
    Prokofi
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prokofi View Post
    the situation for town wasn't as bad as i taught.

    my guess is that 2 of the rand.any were town, 1 was the drunkard(teacher),1 neutral

    my guess is that Moisey is german.

    i guess the missing German kill was
    1) roleblocked (Moisey)
    2)vested (???)
    3)healed(pretty much impossible)
    4)hit immune target (Viteslav was jailed, Svetlana is almost certainly the Anarchist)
    5)hit Nadezha(bolshevik target)


    will we know if there was a double-kill?
    fixed.

  8. ISO #8
    Jelena
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    So it looks like we agree on Arkadi and Leonid.

    I'm not certain as to Leonid, so -vote Arkadi for now.

    My scum list as of now is as follows:

    Germans: Arkadi, Prokofi (?), Leonid (?), Evgheni, Viktoria
    Anarchist: Probably Svetlana

    Arkadi is basically confirmed, so let's lynch him and hopefully we have a good night again.

    Svetlana, we're counting on you.

  9. ISO #9
    Fyodor
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    I was attacked last night, had my armor protect me.

    I know the squabbles between me and Alexei may seem juvenile, but as you can see he had no idea what he was talking about. He pegged the Jailor as scum and sapper as town.

    NOW THAT THE JAILOR IS DEAD I CAN EXPLAIN WHY I DIDN'T WANT TO LYNCH NIKIFOR.

    Ok, so the jailor cooked up a plan to jail Nikifor and just trash talk him and basically let him know he was going to execute him. He wanted the Mafia to send a sapper to Nikifor so that Nikifor and the Sapper blew up and if the jailor didn't execute Nikifor then he wouldn't die from the explosion. That's 2 dead germans for the price of one. Instead we lost Alexei THE FUCKING PERSON WHO COULD HAVE EASILY HELPED US OUT. It's poetic in a way, but I'm saddened to see that he was actually a detective and that he shot me. If someone else shot me then I'd be dead I'm pretty sure.

    Also, I have no idea why, but the Germans apparently blocked me instead of Svetlana. If Tatyana didn't block me and I was blocked last night I can only assume it was them. Leonid kept to his word and is continuing to give me armor and I have found a new ally as of last night.

    I'd like to know who got the gun from the Gunsmith and who they plan on shooting.

  10. ISO #10
    Fyodor
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Doc here. I'm healing you tonight.
    If this is from Alexei then he is by far the worst player in the history of the world. I don't think there is another doctor in this game.

  11. ISO #11
    Svetlana
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    I received this rep last night:

    Nadezsha = Tsar Yakov = General signed by Fyodor the sapper kill Nade tonight or I will blow you up i have armor and general being healed tonight will let you know when general not being healed take the chance and help us win with you
    Nick the German here. Sorry GM messed you up as actress. Please co-op and kill Elixir/Nadesha the jailor please. We give general when we winning.

    Nick/Leo again. Please agree and reply me. And who did you fail kill yesterday? We will protect you from lynching.
    This has two likely outcomes:

    1) Fyodor is the General and Leonid is his healer.

    Supported by the intense push for an alliance and knowing Nadezhda's secret. NOT supported by the Bolshevik's killing the Jailer (explained below). Evidence against being the sapper kill.


    2) The Bolshevik's are repping me trying to get Leonid and Fyodor killed (assuming I'm the Anarchist).

    They were right about Nadezhdah but it's possible one of the Russians had been jailed and was able to discern the jailer as a result. This is also supported by the intense push for the german alliance, hoping that my actions (assuming I'm the Anarchist) would turn town against me.

    The fact that the sapper used his kill last night also supports this second possibility. Why would the germans threaten to break the immunity of someone they assume is the Anarchist, but then uses that ability somewhere else?

    The rep claiming to be Leonid also supports option two by stating the COM identity of the Jailer which would have been the common denominator in discerning his identity.

    Also, I was interviewed last night. According to the graveyard, my list is accurate. Do not missunderstand it for a scum list. It's a list of people lying in day chat fairly regularly or are exhibiting manipulative behavior.


    Quote Originally Posted by Svetlana
    Red = bold liar
    yellow = empowered manipulator

    Viktoria
    Mihail
    Leonid
    Nadezhda
    Vitislav
    Prokofi


    Fyodor
    Moisey
    Alexei
    Liars have something specific to hide:
    Mihail was a liar; proven.
    Leonid is a liar; proven (to me, but maybe not to you)
    Nadezhda was a liar; proven.
    Vitislav is a liar; not proven
    Prokofi; not proven


    And manipulators are power roles of some magnitude. They are empowered by these roles which causes them to not just scum hunt, but actively and admittedly manipulating the audience one way or the other.

    Alexei's role supports this sentiment.

  12. ISO #12

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    A last will was discovered, well-hidden in a book in Georgi's house.
    It read:


    Hello. If you're reading this, it means that I'm dead.

    I would first like to apologize for anything I have done to make myself seem suspicious prior to this point. Alexei was by far the most suspicious person to me on the first couple of days, and my inability to get him lynched despite his mountain of lies was frustrating to a degree I wasn't expecting.

    I apologize for my zealous attempts to get you lynched, Alexei. Lying is not good enough evidence (though neither is a false claim by a troll that gets a town killed, but hey, what can you do about that?), but in the end I guess it didn't matter.


    I have no words of wisdom to impart. The very fact that I survived for as long as I did, without being converted to the Bolshevik cause or outright killed, is a mystery to me. I hope the rest of you can still pull off a victory.

    If anybody actually cares, I'm Echonian. This was my first Forum Mafia, and together with me being far busier than usual since this FM started, has meant that I haven't been able to contribute nearly as well as I wish I had been able to.

    Have a good game everyone.

  13. ISO #13
    Viktoria
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Well now, after a deep night of thought and constantly receiving rep messages, I have deduced the Russian emperor, I will keep his secret to the grave. Also, someone claiming to be Leonid gave me a list of names last night, claiming they were all scum.

    Here is the rep message I received:

    21-01-2012 08:08 PM
    Thread: Day 4 - The Gallows
    These people are scum: Evgheni Ilya Prokhor Moisey Svetlana Fyodor Sacha Arkadi. Don't ask me how I know this. I am Leonid. [CODE]

  14. ISO #14
    Fyodor
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    I didn't send any rep to you last night if that's what you're getting at. I don't know if that's a true rep message you got or if you made it up after today's graveyard reveal, but I cannot claim it's validity. I also am unsure of Leo's COM name so he can claim for himself whether he is really Nick and why if he did send that he would sign off with his COM identity as if to somehow make you think its more true.


    Personally the Anarchist is a curveball and having it be neutral is scary, but so far you haven't shown allegiance to any side so there's that I guess.

    I'd like to hear what Moisey has to say about being blocked and who Arkadi blocked last night.

  15. ISO #15
    Vasili
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    I don't trust you at the minute, Tatyana. I would like for you to do the disguiser check.

  16. ISO #16
    Fyodor
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vasili View Post
    I don't trust you at the minute, Tatyana. I would like for you to do the disguiser check.
    With no cleaned body and no dead Actress I can't comprehend why you would think that?

  17. ISO #17
    Arkadi
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyodor View Post
    I didn't send any rep to you last night if that's what you're getting at. I don't know if that's a true rep message you got or if you made it up after today's graveyard reveal, but I cannot claim it's validity. I also am unsure of Leo's COM name so he can claim for himself whether he is really Nick and why if he did send that he would sign off with his COM identity as if to somehow make you think its more true.


    Personally the Anarchist is a curveball and having it be neutral is scary, but so far you haven't shown allegiance to any side so there's that I guess.

    I'd like to hear what Moisey has to say about being blocked and who Arkadi blocked last night.
    I went to block Andrei again last night as I tried to explain to you guys yesterday that I believe him to be the anarchist. But I don't know if anyone already said this, but there's a witch about and I was controlled last night so I don't know who I hit. But you'll notice that since I was controlled and Andrei was presumably not blocked, the anarchist got a kill off so.... you can come to your own conclusions on that.

    Vote Andrei

  18. ISO #18
    Vasili
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyodor View Post
    With no cleaned body and no dead Actress I can't comprehend why you would think that?
    It's simply a precaution, as there's a pretty low chance that she was actually disguised (if she lied about her role for some reason). I just found it a little odd that she forgot to do it today, that's all.

    Also, there's some weird WIFOM going in those rep messages, so I'm going to analyze the remaining roles to see if I can get anything out of it.

  19. ISO #19
    Vasili
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkadi View Post
    I went to block Andrei again last night as I tried to explain to you guys yesterday that I believe him to be the anarchist. But I don't know if anyone already said this, but there's a witch about and I was controlled last night so I don't know who I hit. But you'll notice that since I was controlled and Andrei was presumably not blocked, the anarchist got a kill off so.... you can come to your own conclusions on that.

    Vote Andrei
    As I posted, however, I noticed Arkadi's post, and it made me think about the existence of a witch.

    Does the witch/pagan tell its victims that they were controlled?

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  21. ISO #21
    Fyodor
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Arkandi CAN be an actress because of the Hidden Any's

    It just depends on how many Hidden Any's we think are town power.

    Leo, Tatyana, and I are the three Hidden town powers. I know who the Gunsmith is and am unsure on the Journalist.

    4 Hidden Any's = 1 Witch + 3 unknown roles?

    The witch doesn't want me to find her so she's using Ark to block me, but after last night you'd think Tatyana would use her block on Ark and if there is a witch they wouldn't try to mess with mafia roles, but instead go after the actress and use her instead.

    So why would the witch target Ark if he was going to be roleblocked? I told Tatyana last night that she should go after someone else only because I thought Ark was German and would block Alexei for trying to kill him and the Gunsmith gun can't be roleblocked.(Again I was just assuming the mafia were idiots the same as the Jailor's strategy with the sapper).

  22. ISO #22
    Ilya
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Who cares about killing the Anarchist right now? Given both the Tsar and Lenin died to night deaths, he's more useful to us alive than dead. His goal ATM is night killing the German general, after all. The only people who should be worried are Germans. Are you one?

  23. ISO #23
    Ilya
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    That was meant to be directed to Arkadi. Forgot to quote.

  24. ISO #24
    Arkadi
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilya View Post
    Who cares about killing the Anarchist right now? Given both the Tsar and Lenin died to night deaths, he's more useful to us alive than dead. His goal ATM is night killing the German general, after all. The only people who should be worried are Germans. Are you one?
    He also has to kill Stalin, interesting that you ignore that and assume I'm a german. Is that because you know I'm not a Bolshevik Ms. 13 posts?

    Also, allow me to quote the anarchist's death note:

    ||| do not tell the anarchist who to kill ||| alexei and fyodor should not make lists in day with targets to kill ||| i will not conform to you ||| if you continue this you will die ||| next night kill will waste itself on the next person to aim my target |||
    Sure we can leave him alive right now but a) I didn't want it to go ignored with everyone being like "herp derp Svetlana is the anarchist" and b) he's made it pretty clear that he will not act as a town vigilante so if you want to roll the dice on him hitting the right targets, then by all means.

  25. ISO #25
    Fyodor
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Given both the Tsar and Lenin died to night deaths
    Lenin was killed yesterday by the late great Jailor not last night as you said.

  26. ISO #26
    Arkadi
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Nevermind, I could've sworn Stalin used to be on the anarchist's hit list, but apparently he's not anymore.

  27. ISO #27

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  29. ISO #29
    Andrei
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Maybe there is no witch and Arkadi is faking it.
    -vote Arkadi

    Alexei said he is confirmed detainer.

  30. ISO #30
    Arkadi
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrei View Post
    Maybe there is no witch and Arkadi is faking it.
    -vote Arkadi

    Alexei said he is confirmed detainer.
    Alexei also said that the jailor was scum, yakov was town and that svetlana was the anarchist. And she lied about shooting me. So yeah, keep trying anarchist. Didn't you say yesterday that you would have info today?

    I'd also like to hear more from Ilya. She wonders if I'm german and then disappears at the first response.

  31. ISO #31
    Andrei
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkadi View Post
    Alexei also said that the jailor was scum, yakov was town and that svetlana was the anarchist. And she lied about shooting me. So yeah, keep trying anarchist. Didn't you say yesterday that you would have info today?

    I'd also like to hear more from Ilya. She wonders if I'm german and then disappears at the first response.
    Why are you convinced that I am Anarchist? Just because a witch controlled you when you were about to roleblock me? Your random lynching.

  32. ISO #32
    Arkadi
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrei View Post
    Why are you convinced that I am Anarchist? Just because a witch controlled you when you were about to roleblock me? Your random lynching.
    I roleblocked you yesterday and there was no anarchist kill. Last night I couldn't roleblock you because a witch controlled me, and the anarchist had a kill. What conclusion would you draw from that?

  33. ISO #33
    Ilya
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyodor View Post
    Lenin was killed yesterday by the late great Jailor not last night as you said.
    Aren't executions at night? I was under the impression that counts as a night kill.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkadi
    I'd also like to hear more from Ilya. She wonders if I'm german and then disappears at the first response.
    God forbid some of us don't check the forums every thirty minutes. And, no, Stalin doesn't need to be killed. For Ms. 13 posts, I apparently have a better understanding of people's roles. Odd. It's much better to let the anarchist do his own stuff at the current moment. He's arguably the least threatening to town, and possibly the most threatening to Germans.

  34. ISO #34
    Viteslav
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    vote arkadi

    bummed that the jailor died after our lovely chat last night
    at least he gave me a good idea of who to trust today

  35. ISO #35
    Viteslav
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Svetlana View Post
    Liars have something specific to hide:
    Vitislav is a liar; not proven
    lolol why does everyone hate me?

  36. ISO #36
    Arkadi
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilya View Post
    Aren't executions at night? I was under the impression that counts as a night kill.


    God forbid some of us don't check the forums every thirty minutes. And, no, Stalin doesn't need to be killed. For Ms. 13 posts, I apparently have a better understanding of people's roles. Odd. It's much better to let the anarchist do his own stuff at the current moment. He's arguably the least threatening to town, and possibly the most threatening to Germans.
    I can't help but find it interesting that you've been lurking this whole time, and then the same day the witch makes herself known by controlling me you decide to start being talkative. I can't prove anything for now of course, but hopefully someone in a position to act on this could look into it.

  37. ISO #37
    Andrei
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkadi View Post
    I roleblocked you yesterday and there was no anarchist kill. Last night I couldn't roleblock you because a witch controlled me, and the anarchist had a kill. What conclusion would you draw from that?
    Coincidence obviously. The Anarchist is trying to frame me.

  38. ISO #38
    Arkadi
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrei View Post
    Coincidence obviously. The Anarchist is trying to frame me.
    I considered it, but there's no way he knew that I'd be blocking you last night, or that I'd be witched last night to stop myself from blocking you. You'd think if he wanted to frame you he would have withheld his action.

  39. ISO #39
    Arkadi
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    I should clarify, there's no way he knew that I'd block you two nights ago, he could assume I was blocking you last night, but wouldn't know about the witching.

  40. ISO #40
    Andrei
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    The Anarchist is a wise one! He is a psychic that knows all.

  41. ISO #41
    Tatyana
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vasili View Post
    I don't trust you at the minute, Tatyana. I would like for you to do the disguiser check.
    Oh, I remember what you were talking about. To be honest, those reps were only so I could re-rep someone else, but a promise is a promise. If I remember correctly...

    Poopdeck. Babies. Bananas. Mithril.

    I think it's pretty obvious that there is no disguiser now.... I'll save my rep for other things. Also, I've received but one rep today and I'd like to know who sent it.... you know who you are.

  42. ISO #42
    Prokhor
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    thumbs up for being 1 of 4 pesants.

  43. ISO #43
    Moisey
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.


    -vote Arkadi

    This is our best bet for the day. Alexei basically confirmed it but Fyodor suspects Arkadi could be actress. Still, due to the odds of Akradi being German vs the odds of being the actress, this should be our target today.

    In Russia, door opens you!

  44. ISO #44
    Andrei
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    In Soviet Russia, cows milk you!

  45. ISO #45
    Fyodor
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    I don't see how Alexei confirmed anything. The chances that there are a second actress is low, but saying she's confirmed isn't true. This is nothing like yesterday with Nikifor and I have to think a detainer would act completely different than Arkadi is acting in terms of night actions. Alexei says that Arkadi is a consort because Arkadi claims to have blocked Alexei and Alexei said that didn't happen, but Alexei lied about so many things that I disregarded that and looked at it logically.

    Logically Arkadi wouldn't want to be so public with all the claims if Tatyana had already claimed Actress. I'm ignoring WIFOM for the moment because it's meaningless and works both ways. Tatyana claimed that she was blocked on N2, but no one claimed to have blocked her so what may have happened was Arkadi thought "Tatyana can't be an actress because I'm an actress and she knew he was clean because she was Detainer", but at the last second or possibly after the time sent a message thinking he changed it to Alexei? So when Alexei didn't claim the block he got suspicious and claimed it for him.

    OR

    Logically Arkadi is the detainer and just lied about who he blocked, claimed 2nd actress, and generally acted scummy so everyone would kill him.

    I've been against what Alexei has said all game even though deep down I knew he was a retarded town role. Tatyana is still a clean suspect so far and as I've said before I have a better time believing there are 2 actresses and no detainers than 1 actress and 1 detainer with the presented facts. There are so many better suspects to go after and if there is a sheriff(Which there has to be I assume) they can check out Arkadi and get a clean read on him now that the framer is dead.

    We almost know all the roles in the game other than peasents and scum then. The only role I'm unaware of is the Journalist which I assume is culted at this point.

    General - Peotr ?
    Medic - Ania ?
    Spotter - ?
    Hidden German - ?


    Gunsmith - Known
    Journalist - Unknown/Andrei?

    Hidden Town power(Actress) - Tatyana
    Hidden Town Power(Armorsmith) - Leonid
    Hidden Town Power(Investigator) - Fyodor


    Peasant - Prokhor
    Peasant - Krili
    Peasant - ?
    Peasant - ?


    Hidden Any(Actress) - Arkadi
    Hidden Any(Witch) - ?
    Hidden Any(Doctor?) - Pretty sure I know who this is
    Hidden Any(Peasent?) - ?


    Stalin
    - Sacha

    Anarchist - Svetlana

    If any one can provide insight to these roles it'd be lovely I did leave a decent amount blank even though I have hunches only because I don't want you to have a narrow list of who my known, but not public known roles are.

  46. ISO #46
    Prokofi
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    i believe we should eliminate the Bolsheviks ASAP

    we only got a 1 bolshevik kill throughout this game.

    vote Sacha

    also, we shouldn't rush a lynch. its a bad idea.

  47. ISO #47
    Prokofi
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Arkadi is at L-4

  48. ISO #48
    Kirill
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Kirill has mixed feelings about last night. The death of two Germans was a high price for three of the Empire. Kirill wonders why the communication break down between Alexei, Nadezhda, and Fyodor occurred. Kirill also is concerned about the power roles so exposed.

    Kirill also received two blank reps. He does not understand their meaning.



    -vote Arkadi

  49. ISO #49
    Moisey
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    Peotr I agree is German. Has tried to stay under the radar and if you look at his messages he just comes off as evil.
    Sasha again is one who rarely talks.

    My gut tells me not to trust Arkadi. However Sasha and Peotr should be invested/blocked this evening.

    In Russia, grass grows you!

  50. ISO #50
    Viktoria
    Guest

    Re: Day V - Remember Remember.

    -vote Arkadi

    Easily German

 

 

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