Day V - Remember Remember.

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, please vote Arkadi. The Anarchist or a town with a gun can shoot Viktoria tonight. We need the votes to get Arkadi and its worth it to prove Tatyana role. Please vote Arkadi.

Again, all I see is a 50/50 shot. Each are roleblockers, one is bad and one is good.

Viktoria is 100% scum at this point. She makes claims but doesn't follow through on fucking one of them. Arkadi is doing a really good job defending himself. I'm not saying he's innocent, but he's got chops, man.

If I'm going to vote for Arkadi, I need actual evidence that implicates him as more than just a roleblocker.

[Moisey]

Again, all I see is a 50/50 shot. Each are roleblockers, one is bad and one is good.

Viktoria is 100% scum at this point. She makes claims but doesn't follow through on fucking one of them. Arkadi is doing a really good job defending himself. I'm not saying he's innocent, but he's got chops, man.

If I'm going to vote for Arkadi, I need actual evidence that implicates him as more than just a roleblocker.

How bout the fact that so many people have not voted for him yet? And quite a few of those people are suspected of being scummy. That in itself pushes things over the edge.

[Moisey]

Again, all I see is a 50/50 shot. Each are roleblockers, one is bad and one is good.

Viktoria is 100% scum at this point. She makes claims but doesn't follow through on fucking one of them. Arkadi is doing a really good job defending himself. I'm not saying he's innocent, but he's got chops, man.

If I'm going to vote for Arkadi, I need actual evidence that implicates him as more than just a roleblocker.

Plus all he's done now is talk a big game and try to point the finger away from him. In no way does he have any physical proof of his innocence. While Tat does. It's very open and shut case. Arkadi is a fool and is guilty. Plus he's getting pretty mad about it.

Instead of pointing fingers at other players Arkadi, what proof do you have of your innocence that does not implicate other players as scummy? Do you have ANY? Ya, didn't think so.

[Svetlana]

Plus all he's done now is talk a big game and try to point the finger away from him. In no way does he have any physical proof of his innocence. While Tat does. It's very open and shut case. Arkadi is a fool and is guilty. Plus he's getting pretty mad about it.

Instead of pointing fingers at other players Arkadi, what proof do you have of your innocence that does not implicate other players as scummy? Do you have ANY? Ya, didn't think so.

I'm sorry, but again, how can either of them prove that their not the detainer outside of a sheriff claim or a game throw?

[Arkadi]

Plus all he's done now is talk a big game and try to point the finger away from him. In no way does he have any physical proof of his innocence. While Tat does. It's very open and shut case. Arkadi is a fool and is guilty. Plus he's getting pretty mad about it.

Instead of pointing fingers at other players Arkadi, what proof do you have of your innocence that does not implicate other players as scummy? Do you have ANY? Ya, didn't think so.

What exactly would be my proof? Andrei did not deny that he was blocked by me on night 3. And Fyodor said he was blocked, and I said I was witched. It seems like you're trying to point fingers away from yourself, because at no point do I see why a peasant would say that Alexei was full of shit and that he was just a peasant, when that rep you just showed explains that Alexei knew you were a peasant and said what he said to make everything think you were actually a town PR.

Why didn't you want to take a bullet for the town? That's a question I have not seen answered anywhere else.

[Moisey]

Prokofi, Andrei, Peotr, Fyodor, Ilya, Prokhor, Svetlana, Leonid, Evgheni and Sacha, we need three more votes to lynch Arkadi and prove Tatyana role and innocence. Please switch your votes to Arkadi or start participating in the lynch and cast your votes for Arkadi.

Arkadi (7): Jelana, Viteslav, Moisey, Krilil, Viktoria, Tatyana, Ania
Three votes needed to Lynch

[Arkadi]

Which reminds me, I don't know what the role block message looks like, but can someone verify if what Moisey "copied" is accurate? I only ask because mine was a lot less wordy about being controlled than his was about being role-blocked.

[Svetlana]

A thought occurs to me as I search our every one of Arkadi's posts to apease Moisey:

Sacha was looking like a solid lynch target for a little while. And then Moisey, who vehemently claims peasant goes ape shit over Arkadi and successfully diverts attention from what was presented as a probable Bolshevik.

If Moisey is a peasant, the likelyhood that he is still town, especially after day 3 is slim. It would explain the conviction on Arkadi based on very little actual evidence. It's also a successful vote-split, an all-too-common tactic among "scum".

This does not prove that Arkadi is innocent, even if true, but makes a lot of sense to me.

[Moisey]

A thought occurs to me as I search our every one of Arkadi's posts to apease Moisey:

Sacha was looking like a solid lynch target for a little while. And then Moisey, who vehemently claims peasant goes ape shit over Arkadi and successfully diverts attention from what was presented as a probable Bolshevik.

If Moisey is a peasant, the likelyhood that he is still town, especially after day 3 is slim. It would explain the conviction on Arkadi based on very little actual evidence. It's also a successful vote-split, an all-too-common tactic among "scum".

This does not prove that Arkadi is innocent, even if true, but makes a lot of sense to me.

I agree that Sasha is indeed Bolshevik and have already said that a killing role should take them out tonight. I have already said this.

INVESTIGATOR check me out tonight please. I want my innocence proven as well as as many other players innocence proven as possible. We have suspected Arkadi of being a German since early Day 4. Lynching Arkadi proves Tatyana innocence and then a night check from the Investigator proves mine. That's 2 more for sure town that we can add to the mix and as long as the Gunsmith keeps feeding me a gun, I will never be converted.

Lynch Arkadi today
Kill Sasha tonight.
Check my role tonight.

[Moisey]

the Gunsmith keeps feeding me a gun, I will never be converted.

And by keeps feeding I mean START feeding and continue to.

[Moisey]

Not tonight though. Let the invest prove my innocence tonight before, if you deem it a good idea, give me a gun.

[Svetlana]

INVESTIGATOR check me out tonight please.

Check my role tonight.

Dude, what the fuck. That's the scummiest thing I've seen this game... most have already conceded that you're a peasant or the general. So not only are you directing town PRs, it's to check something we already believe to know? Please, dude, check that.

Arkadi, I believe is anything but German. Arkadi is the guy I argued with on day 2 about who to lynch: Sheriff or a Healer. I said Sheriff, he said Healer. I could believe he's Anarchist or Bolshevik or any neutral, but preferring the healer to a sheriff? Not very German, in my book.

I will concede the Arkadi acts very scummy, and was one of Alexei's biggest critics, but nothing he did screamed German to me.

So Moisey, doing what you asked me to do has lead me to the conclusion that Arkadi is not German. You're welcome.

[Moisey]

Dude, what the fuck. That's the scummiest thing I've seen this game... most have already conceded that you're a peasant or the general. So not only are you directing town PRs, it's to check something we already believe to know? Please, dude, check that.

Svetlana just want to prove that I am town and have stayed loyal the entire game. What more do you want me to do? Invest check out whoever you'd like.

That has not prove Arkadi innocence from the amount of lies we have caught him in or Alexei's call on Day 4.

If he is Anarchist it still removes that from game and proves the innocence of Two Russian Players that you can trust 100%. Still does not cause town any Russian lives. This is the best lynch shot we have and let's take it.

[Arkadi]

Moisey, I'm sorry, but which one of us is getting mad again?

You still haven't answered my question by the way, why didn't you want to take a bullet for the town by acting as a town PR?

I'm going to bed for now, but I hope I wake up to an answer before I'm lynched. I guess we'll see.

[Moisey]

You still haven't answered my question by the way, why didn't you want to take a bullet for the town by acting as a town PR?

To be completely honest? Didn't think of it. I had the detective and the Investigator both on me and when they asked my role/intentions I answered honestly. I find that during the day I'm pretty damn helpful of being pro-town and lynching Germans (except for the doctor... but that was due to a lying peasant more than anything.)

But why would I have taken the bullet? Tonight I can still prove my allegiance to town, prove the loyalty of another Russian, and get a German lynched.

[Vasili]

Wait, what the fuck? I found something really odd when I wanted to double check something with the roleblocks.

Arkadi (day 4):

I said that because I blocked Alexei night two, and surprise surprise, she didn't actually have anything on Moisey (who correctly pointed out that she was full of shit). Since her clearing of Tatyana rested on me, I wanted to see how she would react if I played along, and of course it went about as well as I suspected: Tatyana became a "proven town member" and I became scum.

Alexei's Last Will:
Night 1 - Jailed and Attacked
Night 2 - Arkadi visited Tatyana
Night 3 - Blocked and Given a Gun
Night 4 - Following Georgi. Shooting Fyodor

I just got back, but I noticed this pretty quickly.
Arkadi, explain this (preferably with all your blocks).

[Svetlana]

Wait, what the fuck? I found something really odd when I wanted to double check something with the roleblocks.





I just got back, but I noticed this pretty quickly.
Arkadi, explain this (preferably with all your blocks).

I did not catch that, good work dude. Follow up would be awesome.

[Svetlana]

Wait, what the fuck? I found something really odd when I wanted to double check something with the roleblocks.





I just got back, but I noticed this pretty quickly.
Arkadi, explain this (preferably with all your blocks).

Also, a post number and day would be awesome, as well.

[Vasili]

Also, a post number and day would be awesome, as well.

#170, Day 4. I'm rereading the thread again to compare Arkadi's and Tatyana's claims.

[Svetlana]

#170, Day 4. I'm rereading the thread again to compare Arkadi's and Tatyana's claims.

Vasili just kind of fucked Arkadi up, here.

That was a bold lie to get someone lynched. Someone who turned out to be town. I think I'll change my vote now.

-vote Arkadi

I don't see much of a choice after that.

[Svetlana]

See, Moisey?

You've been ranting for hours now, and Vasili comes in with a single reference to a single post and schools you on evidential lynches.

You should be saying thank you.

[Moisey]

See, Moisey?

You've been ranting for hours now, and Vasili comes in with a single reference to a single post and schools you on evidential lynches.

You should be saying thank you.

Hey when I said go back and read, that post was part of it! I was wondering why no one was believing me!

[Moisey]

THANK YOU

[Vasili]

THANK YOU

Thanking me isn't going to make my suspicions of you go away, but it appears that we have a liar to deal with. I'd prefer to wait until Arkadi wakes up and defends himself, but I think I'll give the hammer to someone else. I also really don't see a way out of this for him after reading his other posts on day 4.

-vote Arkadi

[Svetlana]

Now either it shut Arkadi the fuck up, or he's re reading some shit. Or he's plotting. Either way, I'm set on that one.

But Arkadi, props dude. Aside from that one slip, you're a fucking PRO debater. A master debater, one might say.

Now only if Viktoria wasn't too much of a shit ass to come up with anything to back a single one of her claims. Something's up with that crazy chick.

[Svetlana]

Oh, didn't see Arkadi went to bed. Either way.

[Moisey]

No props for my picture post? *sad face*

[Svetlana]

No props for my picture post? *sad face*

Sorry, I've always been more into substance than show. You did alright attacking, but the burden of proof lies on the accuser, and you fell short without Vasili.

[Moisey]

True enough. Oh well. Least the outcome is what I wanted.

[Leonid]

Remember not to hammer too early. There are still a few suspicious individual that we have yet to interrogate. Don't let them off the hook by lynching early. Keep it at L-2 before someone screw the discussion up by ninja lynching Arkadi and ending the day early.

[Moisey]

Remember not to hammer too early. There are still a few suspicious individual that we have yet to interrogate. Don't let them off the hook by lynching early. Keep it at L-2 before someone screw the discussion up by ninja lynching Arkadi and ending the day early.

Now see, this posts bothers me. We have now proven that Arkadi is a liar and is pure scum, yet Leonid wants the day to continue to possibly change the vote to someone else. Why change the public opinion from someone who has been proven to be EVIL unless you are standing up for your friend to keep Germany in the game. Leonid please explain, as I don't by why anyone would slip up when there are already 9 votes on the board. Just looks like a desperate last dive to throw off the voters.

[Tatyana]

Congratulations guys: this game has hurt my head more than almost any other game. I actually like how this game turned out (from a gameplay aspect): even moreso than other forum mafias, this game has been about trusting other people and separating truths from lies than it has been about 'I am (insert PR here): he is scum'. The downside is that it makes my head hurt :P Between Matvei, Alexei, Fyodor, and Moisey (among other people), I've flip-flopped so many times about what I think of them. For the record, I thought that Moisey was a German going into tonight, and now I think that the worst he could be is a proletariat...

[Moisey]

For the record, I thought that Moisey was a German going into tonight, and now I think that the worst he could be is a proletariat...

I thought you were evil until you claimed to RB me and Arkadi was caught in so many different lies. So =) It's all good.

[Moisey]

Arkadi (9): Jelana, Viteslav, Moisey, Krilil, Viktoria, Tatyana, Ani, Svetlana, Vasili
ONE vote needed to Lynch

Prokofi, Andrei, Peotr, Fyodor, Ilya, Prokhor, Leonid, Evgheni and Sacha, just need one of you to drop to drop that hammer on the nail of Arkadi lying ass and send one more SCUM packing! Who’s it going to be?

In Russia, the LOST ending is still terrible.... They didn’t bother to answer any of the questions I’ve been waiting to have answered! The polar bear, the Dharma Initiative, the people in the temple and what about Walt and the guy who blew himself up? Where were they at the end?! The show was a character study?! Then why bother with subs and hatches?!! To keep the show interesting? I’m interested in answers, not more questions!! First they introduce “the others” who are inexplicably hostile to the plane crash survivors and this guy who never ages for some reason, and what about Richard Whitemore’s obsession with the island?! They lead us to believe that he had all the answers…and he told us nothing!!!

[Leonid]

Moisey. Don't rush the hammer. A few people has yet to explain themselves.

[Moisey]

Moisey. Don't rush the hammer. A few people has yet to explain themselves.

Are any of those people active posters or are they the multiple 1post go afk for an entire day that this game is full of? It's the latter isn't it. No one is going to come clean with nine votes up.

So your reasoning Leonid confuses me.

[Leonid]

Are any of those people active posters or are they the multiple 1post go afk for an entire day that this game is full of? It's the latter isn't it. No one is going to come clean with nine votes up.

So your reasoning Leonid confuses me.

Sigh... you are right. What do you think about those lurkers then? Russian vote is running thin. And I don't like nasty surprises tomorrow. I not talking about voting them up. Instead I want a consensus on how to deal with them.

[Moisey]

Sigh... you are right. What do you think about those lurkers then? Russian vote is running thin. And I don't like nasty surprises tomorrow. I not talking about voting them up. Instead I want a consensus on how to deal with them.

Only hope this that this new batch when they are Modkilled off are controlled by players who can talk and give some insight. It's really hard to tell who's evil and who's not by 2-3 sentences worth of text. Their probably thinking that they are playing the game so well when in fact they are ruining it. (Why I am going to enjoy the FM10 rules! Won't allow something like that to happen.)

Right now in town I only trust Tatyana and Fyodor.

Alot of people think that Sasha is a Bolshevik and if it was not for the obvious case against Arkadi I would of voted to lynch Sasha in a second. I say Sasha is a big target tonight, as are two people I`ve had my eyes on for awhile now, Evghnei and Ilya. Evghnei has stopped talking and Ilya, even under a new handler, has acted evil since the very start. Those 3 are probably our best bet for tonight. As far as Lynch goes, we have our best target and I want that hammer to drop to prove Tat`s innocence. The more Russians we trust/roles confirmed, the better chances of us pulling off the comeback win with the horrible start we had.

[Leonid]

If Arkadi is German,
3 Germans
3-5 Bolsheviks
1 Anarchist
5-7 Russians
4 Hidden Any (I assume 2 neutrals and 2 Russians)

Assuming that neutrals are siding with German or Bolsheviks, and no kills tonight (but in reality 3 kills)
3 German + 1 Hidden Any (neutral)
3-5 Bolsheviks + 1 Hidden Any (neutral)
1 Anarchist
5-7 Russians + 2 Hidden Any (Russians)

This means,
4 votes for German
3-6 votes for Bolsheviks
1 Anarchist
5-9 votes for Russians

Everyone need to make their vote count tomorrow.

[Moisey]

Actually could you please list who you would like to hear from still Leonid and why you want to hear from them/why you are calling them out? (Names in particular. Call out those people who are lurkers/afkers)

And I still think Sasha should be shot tonight.

[Leonid]

And I still think Sasha should be shot tonight.

I think Sasha has an excuse though. Gavril's death shocked him a bit too much. He had been taunting Gavril and Alexei after the hammer. Still you are right. We can't rule him out.

[Leonid]

It's easier to read scums who are posting alot because they are more likely to slip and thus get caught. What I fear are people who suddenly stop posting, or never really posted anything at all for a day or two without being modkilled. We are told that people WITHOUT night actions, and do not post day AND night will be modkilled. So far, there is ONLY ONE modkill. My AFKers list is at my home computer. Give me 3 hours (going home soon) and I'll post the list of lurkers and their activity profile.

I'm not a disguiser. Don't worry lol.

[Moisey]

I am off to bed Leo. Look forward to reading your Lurker profile when I wake up as well as seeing that HAMMER get dropped as we send Arkadi to their death. The lies caught up to him. Simple as that.

[Leonid]

I agree with you. Though I have a few other suspects.

Oh yea. Before I log off, any scum who dared to hammer early will be shot tonight. Person with the gun from gunsmith please take note. Kill the scum who want to stop town from discussing by hammering early.

[Leonid]

Players remaining

Leonid
Evgheni
Ilya
Andrei
Viteslav
Prokofi
Prokhor
Fyodor
Sacha
Peotr
Ania
Vasili
Viktoria
Tatyana
Jelena
Moisey
Svetlana
Kirill
Arkadi

[Leonid]

Active

Leonid
Fyodor
Tatyana
Moisey
Svetlana
Arkadi

Semi-active

Prokofi
Viktoria

Lurking

Evgheni
Ilya
Viteslav
Vasili
Jelena
Kirill

AFKers

Andrei
Prokhor
Sacha
Peotr
Ania

[Moisey]

[U]Lurking

Evgheni
Ilya
Viteslav
Vasili
Jelena
Kirill

AFKers

Andrei
Prokhor
Sacha
Peotr
Ania

Equals a really shitty end game.

[Leonid]

Sudden fall in post activity

Jelena (Day2)
Sacha (Day3)
Evgheni (Day5)

Possible explaination = indoctrinated

No posts for one day/night cycle without being modkilled (the only modkill occured in Day2)

Andrei
Prokhor
Sacha
Peotr
Ania

Possible explaination = Scum / useless PR / cannot be peasant.

[Fyodor]

@Svetlana/Visili

That's what this entire argument was about. Arkadi swears he visited alexei, but instead visited Tatyana. This is what alexei said "Proves him guilty", but what I've been saying the entire fucking time is that all it does is prove Oops and Philie don't know how to not both log on and take different actions if someone sent a second action or changed their action throughout the night. Same EXACT thing happened to me.

[Moisey]

@Svetlana/Visili

That's what this entire argument was about. Arkadi swears he visited alexei, but instead visited Tatyana. This is what alexei said "Proves him guilty", but what I've been saying the entire fucking time is that all it does is prove Oops and Philie don't know how to not both log on and take different actions if someone sent a second action or changed their action throughout the night. Same EXACT thing happened to me.

Upon talking to Philie, this was not the case for Arkadi. This is what we've been trying to say for over 12+ hours now. Trust me. Arkadi is guilty. Look at the numbers who have not voted yet and the roles you suspect them of being. Arn't the majority of them German? That makes sense for the absence of votes. Isn't our 60 hours almost up anyway? Not enough time to go after another target with the numbers you need. Everyone is not that active to switch the votes to another target. Why would Arkadi have lied so much if he was really a Actress? Makes ZERO sense.