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[DJarJar]

Do you want us to assume you’re NOT town?

Are you some kind of neutral role?

[Gyrlander]

Do you want us to assume you’re NOT town?

Oh! That's another difference regarding metas: I don't do stupid comments that may get a certain guy to question my alignment as Scum.

[Gyrlander]

Are you some kind of neutral role?

No, and if I were I would not tell you as NON-TOWN also includes Neutral.

[Voss]

So you’re saying if you were scum, you would just lay down and die because there is no chance for you to be on the brink of a mislynch? So you would just let yourself get lynched and screw your teammates over?

i've seen gyrlander just lie down, yeah. it was among the most memorable/surprising lynches i've ever seen.

[DJarJar]

No, and if I were I would not tell you as NON-TOWN also includes Neutral.

Seems like you’ve thought about it a lot. Personally my win condition just says to eliminate THREATS to the town, not all non town

[Gyrlander]

Spoiler : cvote :

PPFortress,Octane,HueyTheLong,OzyWho,Voss,Kenny,Li ght_Yagami,Frinckles,Magoroth,aamirus,Gyrlander,

There you go.

[Voss]

@Voss any update to your reads

yeah i've shifted things around

Spoiler : cvote :

PPFortress,HueyTheLong,Magoroth,Frinckles,Gyrlande r,Octane,Light_Yagami,OzyWho,Kenny,aamirus,Voss,

Last Votes:
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post843224

[Gyrlander]

Seems like you’ve thought about it a lot. Personally my win condition just says to eliminate THREATS to the town, not all non town

Expected you to say that. Also expected my response:

One of my first posts is to kill everyone who claims anything different than Town, even if it's a neutral who claims to have a SUPER COMPLEX ROLE that can win with Town.

[DJarJar]

Spoiler : cvote :

PPFortress,Octane,HueyTheLong,OzyWho,Voss,Kenny,Li ght_Yagami,Frinckles,Magoroth,aamirus,Gyrlander,

There you go.

Thanks, I’m content you can go study now

[DJarJar]

Expected you to say that. Also expected my response:

One of my first posts is to kill everyone who claims anything different than Town, even if it's a neutral who claims to have a SUPER COMPLEX ROLE that can win with Town.

So you are a neutral with a super complex role then, good to know

[Gyrlander]

Thanks, I’m content you can go study now

Thanks mum. I'll still be around in case anyone talks to me or there's a chance I'm lynched.

[Gyrlander]

So you are a neutral with a super complex role then, good to know

Exactly, please lynch me now and rid myself of this suffering.

[DJarJar]

yeah i've shifted things around

Spoiler : cvote :

PPFortress,HueyTheLong,Magoroth,Frinckles,Gyrlande r,Octane,Light_Yagami,OzyWho,Kenny,aamirus,Voss,

Last Votes:
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post843224

So of the 3 tunneled, you would lynch Frinckles. Okay and any reasoning for PPFortress over huey? Or why octane is way higher than the other 2 afks?

[Frinckles]

Between Kenny and ozy, which one do you want to lynch more? Would you lynch somebody completely different?

That's a very difficult question.

Kenny's response last night to me "killing him" felt genuine but today he's been all over the place and has the absolute worst reasons to suspect me of being scum (muh past gamez.) He hasn't bothered pushing anywhere outside of me, which doesn't strike me as town Kenny. He doesn't even question Ozy's posts and can apparently read them coherently.

Ozy obviously fits scum in my book because I don't read his intentions early D1 as genuine. He also has barely scumhunted and keeps calling my posts "attempts at hiding my scum-mates." This dude legitimately had a SCUM CHART last game and hasn't so much as tried to interact with anyone. His reads are still the exact same as they were in his second post after almost 900 posts.

Admittedly, I can see myself coming off as scummy for not de-escalating the arguments with either sooner; That said, I was the only one who did so.
With either, any attempt at a conversation has a massive breakdown in communication despite me trying to make things very clear from my point of view.

Between the two, Ozy -- but I believe your assessment that Kenny is untouchable and highly townread to be incorrect. Few people have analyzed him in my opinion and I'd be more than happy to rid the town of him. If this is really TvT, it's also a massive misplay on both their parts.


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On a separate note: I don't like Magoroth's play that much this game. He usually has a pretty good scum-radar and hasn't contributed jack shit really.

[Gyrlander]

WAIT, I AM THE MOST VOTED PERSON. WHAT THE HELL.

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO STUDY LIKE THIS?

[DJarJar]

That's a very difficult question.

Kenny's response last night to me "killing him" felt genuine but today he's been all over the place and has the absolute worst reasons to suspect me of being scum (muh past gamez.) He hasn't bothered pushing anywhere outside of me, which doesn't strike me as town Kenny. He doesn't even question Ozy's posts and can apparently read them coherently.

Ozy obviously fits scum in my book because I don't read his intentions early D1 as genuine. He also has barely scumhunted and keeps calling my posts "attempts at hiding my scum-mates." This dude legitimately had a SCUM CHART last game and hasn't so much as tried to interact with anyone. His reads are still the exact same as they were in his second post after almost 900 posts.

Admittedly, I can see myself coming off as scummy for not de-escalating the arguments with either sooner; That said, I was the only one who did so.
With either, any attempt at a conversation has a massive breakdown in communication despite me trying to make things very clear from my point of view.

Between the two, Ozy -- but I believe your assessment that Kenny is untouchable and highly townread to be incorrect. Few people have analyzed him in my opinion and I'd be more than happy to rid the town of him. If this is really TvT, it's also a massive misplay on both their parts.


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On a separate note: I don't like Magoroth's play that much this game. He usually has a pretty good scum-radar and hasn't contributed jack shit really.

If ozy or Kenny was lynched and flipped town, what would you say to defend yourself D2?

[DJarJar]

WAIT, I AM THE MOST VOTED PERSON. WHAT THE HELL.

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO STUDY LIKE THIS?

I will take you off of mine

[Frinckles]

If ozy or Kenny was lynched and flipped town, what would you say to defend yourself D2?

In that very unlikely event:

I'd say fuck Ozy for trying to scum-paint someone who breaths scum-paint an hour into a game and then doubling down on it.

or

I'd say fuck Kenny, "This really was the exception to your stupid rule."

[Gyrlander]

Sigh. Just let me know if I should roleclaim.

[DJarJar]

In that very unlikely event:

I'd say fuck Ozy for trying to scum-paint someone who breaths scum-paint an hour into a game and then doubling down on it.

or

I'd say fuck Kenny, "This really was the exception to your stupid rule."

“Unlikely event”. So you believe both of the people pushing you are for sure scum?

[Frinckles]

Sigh. Just let me know if I should roleclaim.

I'm not lynching you today and I personally don't care about your role.

[DJarJar]

Sigh. Just let me know if I should roleclaim.

I currently have you at the bottom in my vote but I will move you which should take you off the bottom of the consensus

[DJarJar]

So of the 3 tunneled, you would lynch Frinckles. Okay and any reasoning for PPFortress over huey? Or why octane is way higher than the other 2 afks?

@Voss

[Gyrlander]

I currently have you at the bottom in my vote but I will move you which should take you off the bottom of the consensus

With bottom you surely mean "top". Anyway, I'm gonna be around. If it's urgent mention me.

[Frinckles]

“Unlikely event”. So you believe both of the people pushing you are for sure scum?

100% sure from my point of view.

[Gyrlander]

100% sure from my point of view.

I'd say your confidence is towny.

[Light_Yagami]

@Voss Is The CVOTE Actually Backwards?????? If So I Totally Need To Fix My Vote..

[Light_Yagami]

@Voss Is The CVOTE Actually Backwards?????? If So I Totally Need To Fix My Vote..

@Stealthbomber16 Same Question..

[Gyrlander]

I'm bored and I don't want to study so I'll explain my cvote in case anyone cares.

PPFortress,Octane,HueyTheLong,OzyWho,Voss,Kenny,Li ght_Yagami,Frinckles,Magoroth,aamirus,Gyrlander,

First the three most inactive people. I actually feel like everyone else but them is actually trying and I'm liking the game so far and would rather not eliminate one of "us". PP first because he has sent ¿1 post?, Octane second cause he seems to be trolling and Huey third cause he has more posts and is not crazy.

Then we have Scum/Null:

- OzyWho, someone who does not give me town vibes and I don't disagree with things said by Frinckles.

- Voss, someone who has been under the radar quite a lot and I don't know what to think of him. Just that he seems fishy.

- Kenny, he seems quite contributive and I'd rather not see him go.

Finally we have the "Town guys".

- Light, because despite his usual strange and indecipherable behaviour that tends me to just mark him as a null for the whole game is actually giving me town vibes. Although I'm not sure why, so I can't put him lower.

- Frinckles, contribution, seems to win the Frinckles vs. OzyWho argument and in general doesn't scare me (except for the usual wolf mastermind that controls the whole game theories that are always there).

- Magoroth, mainly because his mention of the win condition which I considered only a Town would have done (at least the way he did).

- Aamirus, because she's the one who has actually got me to contribute. I don't imagine a scum trying to get a player (that has been quite "silent") to talk without the intention of getting him lynched. Even more if she town reads me now (which I'm not sure, but if she's going to put me the lowest I guess she has some faith in me).

[DJarJar]

@Voss Is The CVOTE Actually Backwards?????? If So I Totally Need To Fix My Vote..

I just meant bottom like most evil, yes he's at the physical top, sorry.

[Light_Yagami]

I'm bored and I don't want to study so I'll explain my cvote in case anyone cares.

PPFortress,Octane,HueyTheLong,OzyWho,Voss,Kenny,Li ght_Yagami,Frinckles,Magoroth,aamirus,Gyrlander,

First the three most inactive people. I actually feel like everyone else but them is actually trying and I'm liking the game so far and would rather not eliminate one of "us". PP first because he has sent ¿1 post?, Octane second cause he seems to be trolling and Huey third cause he has more posts and is not crazy.

Then we have Scum/Null:

- OzyWho, someone who does not give me town vibes and I don't disagree with things said by Frinckles.

- Voss, someone who has been under the radar quite a lot and I don't know what to think of him. Just that he seems fishy.

- Kenny, he seems quite contributive and I'd rather not see him go.

Finally we have the "Town guys".

- Light, because despite his usual strange and indecipherable behaviour that tends me to just mark him as a null for the whole game is actually giving me town vibes. Although I'm not sure why, so I can't put him lower.

- Frinckles, contribution, seems to win the Frinckles vs. OzyWho argument and in general doesn't scare me (except for the usual wolf mastermind that controls the whole game theories that are always there).

- Magoroth, mainly because his mention of the win condition which I considered only a Town would have done (at least the way he did).

- Aamirus, because she's the one who has actually got me to contribute. I don't imagine a scum trying to get a player (that has been quite "silent") to talk without the intention of getting him lynched. Even more if she town reads me now (which I'm not sure, but if she's going to put me the lowest I guess she has some faith in me).

Yeah So Scum Gyrlander Never Does This.. Hmm Hmm..

[Light_Yagami]

To The Betterment Of My Recollection..

[Gyrlander]

Yeah So Scum Gyrlander Never Does This.. Hmm Hmm..

Exactly, hereby I proclaim myself the first member of the Town Block.

[Frinckles]

Spoiler : cvote :

OzyWho,Kenny,Octane,PPFortress,HueyTheLong,Voss,Ma goroth,aamirus,Gyrlander,Light_Yagami,Frinckles,

[Voss]

So of the 3 tunneled, you would lynch Frinckles. Okay and any reasoning for PPFortress over huey? Or why octane is way higher than the other 2 afks?

I'd actually like to bring attention to the fact that I'd pick Mag over Frinckles.

PPFortress came in and said I seem fishy, so I don't need that slot in my life. Would rather have Huey around than PPFortress.

Octane's made me laugh, and if someone were to tell me that there's 2 scum between PPFortres, Huey, and Octane, I'd think Octane is the non scum. Or at least, I'm curious to see what they'd do in future games. Maybe they pick up their game in Day 2 over the weekend.

I'm also considering moving Ozy in between Frinckles and Gyrlander, or in between Gyrlander and Octane, but don't really have strong convictions to repost a vote.

[DJarJar]

I'd actually like to bring attention to the fact that I'd pick Mag over Frinckles.

PPFortress came in and said I seem fishy, so I don't need that slot in my life. Would rather have Huey around than PPFortress.

Octane's made me laugh, and if someone were to tell me that there's 2 scum between PPFortres, Huey, and Octane, I'd think Octane is the non scum. Or at least, I'm curious to see what they'd do in future games. Maybe they pick up their game in Day 2 over the weekend.

I'm also considering moving Ozy in between Frinckles and Gyrlander, or in between Gyrlander and Octane, but don't really have strong convictions to repost a vote.

I would rather lynch you than mag

[Kenny]

So I don't forget and to prevent this from getting too swingy, here's my vote

Spoiler : cvote :

Frinckles,Voss,OzyWho,Magoroth,Gyrlander,aamirus,L ight_Yagami,Octane,HueyTheLong,PPFortress,Kenny,

[DJarJar]

So I don't forget and to prevent this from getting too swingy, here's my vote

Spoiler : cvote :

Frinckles,Voss,OzyWho,Magoroth,Gyrlander,aamirus,L ight_Yagami,Octane,HueyTheLong,PPFortress,Kenny,

how did light's name get messed up

[Kenny]

how did light's name get messed up

I townread light

[DJarJar]

I townread light

there is a space in his name in your vote

[Frinckles]

I townread light

lol that was funny

[Frinckles]

lol that was funny

Awh I hope that was an intentional joke.

[Gyrlander]

there is a space in his name in your vote

It happens in all votes.

[Ganelon]

I love how there’s more people voting me now than there were when I claimed the lynch was a mayor vote

[Kenny]

there is a space in his name in your vote

That's just your browser then. It looks fine on my end

[Gyrlander]

It happens in all votes.

Nvm, it happens on a different name depending the order. For example, Frinckles has the Magoroth with a space in between.
@Voss Does the condorcet still work properly even with this?

[Light_Yagami]

I Think Aarmirus Was Saiyan That The Space In My Name..lol

[Frinckles]

I think scum is pushing me so hard because they fear I'll be able to solve this tbh ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[DJarJar]

Nvm, it happens on a different name depending the order. For example, Frinckles has the Magoroth with a space in between.
@Voss Does the condorcet still work properly even with this?

you're right, how odd.

[Light_Yagami]

Nvm, it happens on a different name depending the order. For example, Frinckles has the Magoroth with a space in between.
@Voss Does the condorcet still work properly even with this?

Yeah It Works..lol