If I was lying, you could literally just lynch me the next day assuming Wiisp was citizen.
Here's my pov:
Naz - Checked by confirmed cop: Returned loyal.
Kovath - Confirmed cop: Loyal.
Magoroth - Mafia Sniper: Returned as disloyal & Mafia Sniper.
Wiisp - Killed at night didn't leave role for some reason: Returned as loyal.
Light_Yagami - Claimed Lead Tunneler was likely German tunneler: Returned as disloyal.
Frinckles - Lead Tunneler: Loyal.
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So, the remaining scum should be leader of the defectors and the irish Volunteer. We also should have one more hidden trench raider and an armorer.
Stealthbomber16
MarshmallowMarshall
Efekannn02
Varcron
Gyrlander
The Lawyer
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So, claiming your roles would clear two people from our process of elimination or reveal scum. Alternatively: If we consider that Wiisp was a citizen, we can just lynch one citizen who willingly will be our martyr and I can press the button at night to reveal the leader of the defectors. In hindsight, that might not be optimal though.
Just read his lw @Kovath love u🥺knew u were a good guy rip
Ok then
My role is British soldier. I don't have any special abilities.
Okay so that's three of four possible citizens.
Nice, so the flip here is CONFIRMED TOWN.
RIP Light, that was a scum flip for sure, too (no half-sane player with the role he claimed would just shut up and die at EoD lol).
@naz Welcome to my town block.
Now, the question is : which kind of scum was he? I actually don't see people defending him or trying to deflect the lynch from him outside of... myself and since I know my own alignment, I have doubts on his Mafia alignment. I also have doubts when I see his LW's claim, because that's just... not good at all. If he had a scum team, they would probably have told him that his claim was bad if they discussed even a bit. I think Light was the Irish Volunteer.
Kovath - Confirmed cop: Loyal.
Magoroth - Mafia Sniper: Returned as disloyal & Mafia Sniper.
Wiisp - Killed at night didn't leave role for some reason: Returned as loyal.
Light_Yagami - Claimed Lead Tunneler was likely German tunneler: Returned as disloyal.
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Naz - Checked by confirmed cop: Returned loyal.
Frinckles - Lead Tunneler: Loyal.
Stealthbomber16 - Citizen
MarshmallowMarshall - Citizen
Efekannn02 - Citizen
The Lawyer - Citizen
Varcron
Gyrlander
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Updated. @Varcron @Gyrlander claim roles pls. @naz dont claim your role yet tbh
So, the roles are:
Marshmallow Marshall : Citizen.
@Naz : Confirmed town by Kovath. Implied she wasn't a Citizen earlier, but should claim directly.
Frinckles tbh : British Lead Tunneller.
Light_Yagami : Dead scum, probably Irish Volunteer, if not he's German Tunneller.
Magoroth : Dead scum, probably the Marksman Raider.
Kovath : Dead, Section D Raider.
Wisp : Dead, unknown town role.
The Lawyer : Citizen claim.
Efekannn02 : Citizen claim.
Stealthbomber16 : Citizen claim.
@Varcron : No claim yet!
@Gyrlander : No claim yet!
Yep, scums are screwed
I think Gyrlander is town, and Efe is probably town, too. Which leaves Varcron, Stealth, and the Lawyer to be the remaining scum, and that actually makes sense, I think.
That's from my point of view, obviously.
-vote TheLawyer
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@Marshmallow Marshall why do you think light was irish?
So here's my thinking: Light claiming lead tunneler likely means he was the german tunneler as the two are analog coroners.
With Magoroth being the sniper this mean that yesterday the two mafia members playing were German Tunneler & Leader of the Defectors. They would have already had a night chat and knew eachother's identities.
EOD vote distribution here:
There was so much infighting between Light+MM/Varcron and it leads me to believe one of scum.Light_Yagami (5 [L-1]):
Frinckles, Efekannn02, Kovath, Stealthbomber16, Marshmallow Marshall
Marshmallow Marshall (2 [L-4]):
Varcron, naz
Varcron (1 [L-5]):
Light_Yagami
In other news, @Stealthbomber16 why the fuck did you soft-claim a PR yesterday tbh?
MM's day one (from what we probably know) was awful. Defending both Magoroth and Light multiple times. The eventual flip to Light only occurred after no momentum was gaining on Varcron's lynch and I made the decision as MM vs. Light.
Varcron's day one wasn't much better and the arguments with Korvath didn't age well. Even the arguments with SB16 didn't really age well. Similar to MM he wanted to move the lynch away from Light to someone else. Korvath noticed this as well.
SB16 has been all over the place and nothing of what he's done seems inherently helpful to finding scum. He's just voted whoever the train was on -- moving from MM to Light for no reason. There was a similar pattern with his vote on MM and Mag day one as well. I'm guessing he's the Irish guy or Efe.
Which makes this funny:
Because nobody outside of myself and Varcron tried to move the lynch away from Light, and I know I'm not scum; the main resistance to his lynch was me.
Too awful, don't you think? I would NEVER defend my teammates this hard and this openly, especially not Light, because risk < reward.
@Huey The Long Is suicide allowed? I believe this is a situation where it would a good option for the people in the PoE, myself included.
why the fuck do you guys all show up at the same time every time tbh
are you all the same person?
I feel comfortable enough with the amount of overconfidence I have in myself that in my mind I could hint an important role and make it through the hopefully last day today.
I knew Yagami was scum. I’m not sure who the last one is.
I’m not going to go back and analyze a player that we know is scum and provide cited evidence for you but when Yagami is scum he tends to make passive aggressive accusations. Things like “maybe it’s this” “maybe you’re scum” “what if it was you”
He has a very specific tell that I really don’t want to reveal because it’s my trick for reading him where he will literally only say a specific word if he is scum because he doesn’t know how to make fake reads as scum so he just takes shots in the dark. You’ll see a lot of that if you go back at his posts. No solid reads. Just thoughts.
Given the one scum flip at EoD I think it makes perfect sense. Irishman must not have known Yagami was scum and did not use bomb. Alternatively mag or Yagami are the Irish volunteer.
Or
@Huey The Long
If a target is protected from the irishman placing his bomb will they know? Either by the flak jacket or by the armored raider
FMPOV
Choices are
Efe
Velcro
Lawyer
Gyrlander
I think gyrlander has had substantial contribution this game. I don't think he is scum. Nowhere near as certain as I was with yagami, but I don't think gyr is scum.
Leaves me with
Efe
Voltorb
Lawyer
Vaseline contributed and notably pushed magoroth d1 and was a huge face for his lynch so I think vector is out
Between the two efe and lawyer either one of them could be scum so this comes down to a gut read for me. Scum efe might not have done the bullshit he did this game but lawyer has just been kind of absent. More so than me, which is already inexcusable.