so n0 was random selected but was guaranteed to be a citizen, got it. what does masons "not host confirmed" mean? they have an active chat but are anonymous?
so n0 was random selected but was guaranteed to be a citizen, got it. what does masons "not host confirmed" mean? they have an active chat but are anonymous?
nvm i just saw rule 4. of opening post
okay now i understand the sheriff mechanics, ozy probs isnt mafia. i doubt someone would strong arm their team mate into a play with the first post of the game, wouldn't mind being proven wrong tho.
Im Under The Impression If Under This Thought Process Is.. If Puff AKA Ozy Is Sheriff And Confirms Arrmruis.. And Mag Is Sheriff And Confirms Rumox As Town... Then Doesnt That Make Masons And Or Mayor Highly Unlikely.. So That Being Said.. I Think Both Sheriffs And Their Reads Could Be Town.. IDK If That Was Intentional Or Not.. Gives Us Townies A Promise 4 Vote Advantage Over The Scum.. So If I Was A Betting Man.. I Think The MM Theory Holds The Most Weight At The Moment Unless Someone Comes Out As Mayor.. Then So Far We Have A Town Block..
huey is town, i wont be lynching him
I'm slightly dazzled on the fact that players seem to not fully understand this setup and treat it as a regular one.
Town wants to be ultra active and try to get everyone else active too, for a maximum amount of info. 4 players have below 20 posts...
Town wants to present themselves as a threat to the inactive players - or else there is nothing stopping the mafia to just lurk and do nothing while town has too little info to work with. Thus far 2 players see a townie, who is presenting himself as a threat to lurkers, as scummy just for that.
@blinkskater Is it possible to vote for -forfeit at EoD?
We might win, we might lose. But no way that final game lynch will be an informed one. If everything continues as its now, the best we will get is a 50/50 lottery. That's not a deserved win even if it will be one. I'm not up for it.
If people could only stop treat this as a standard setup, and see the value and importance of activity.
4 out of 8 players have below 20 posts.... in THIS setup? This setup's entire idea is to encourage activity...
For all I know - everyone here is scum. Only Aamirus and Kira I trust, and even Kira is just based on gut feeling.
Really bad timing for that post of mine lol. As some people seem active now...
I'll start a vote elsewhere since we got SB and MM going.
-vote Light_Yagami
However my intention is probably to lynch MM at eod
Rumox your entrance is frankly terrible. I hope that nobody claims to be a 3rd town power because everything you and mag just posted SCREAMS of being coordinated.
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
I mean, you admitted to not having even read... the first post?... after spamming posts at ozzy right with mag. Like.. lol wut?
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
If I was mafia I'd have read the setup lol
My perspective on myself and ozzy is:
I can’t be mafia unless ozzy is.
Ozzy made his claim about me as the first post of the game, long before we could have coordinated anything in a mafia chat. He’d have to be super ballsy to do something like that on his own as mafia.
Personally, knowing I’m a cit, his claim is that much more legit cuz a mafia wouldn’t know which towns are cits or not....... especially for the first post of the game. And again I don’t think it would make sense to risk a 1/3 chance of scumslipping for... THE FIRST POST OF THE GAME!
So... like try scum painting somebody else?
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
well now you are the one not reading. i literally said everything you just said and have moved elsewhere lol
if my poe isnt clear with my post about huey then mafia is in sb, mm and light. ill extend it by saying i have doubts on light being mafia because last game he couldnt string together a single post that could be followed logically, but this game he is. so mm sb team is my mafia team.
Actually, I got the opposite impression. I mean, sure - Rum comes in to play and suddenly Mag presents to believe the complete opposite of what he did before Rum got here.
But another impression I got was: "yeah, no way those guys have an active chat. Mag would had told him to go after SB/MM if they had."
Curious what impression everyone else got.
And Rumox Claiming That MM Is His Likely Lynch At End Of Day Was Interesting Indeed.. Id Like To Hear More From MM Over All So I Can Compare And Contrast..
This is probably more accurate than what aamirus said.
In any event: I flip flop A LOT in these kinds of games. Think about it: you did too. But for some inexplicable reason I’m the only one who gets called out for it, every single game. Every game someone goes ‘Mag is flip flopping’ well no shit I’m flip flopping. You’ll notice I flip flop a lot less as scum.
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I'm sorry. I just get really angry when I feel I'm being scum painted, or scum read for the wrong reasons (in my mind it's all the same).
I actually forgot to add one more point of impression that I got: "I don't know what Mag is doing, but there would be NO REASON for him to do it if he was Mafia. He could just push for a SB/MM lynch and have an easy win if he was Mafia".
So, yeah, Mag. If you are Mafia - be proud. I town read your action because I see them as being too dumb for a Mafia to do.
That's not actually funny, I'm a great scum @blinkskater can confirm but he won't cuz he's host. So you better hope I'm not mafia
anyway. I don't see how my actions are dumb, all I'm doing is backtracking on a read? that's something people do.
U Know Its Hard Thinking About This Is Like IDK Day 3 Or 4..
and yeah I could easily be pushing for an SB/MM Lynch (which I am probably gonna do if its not Aamirus/Ozy), I dont really have a read on Huey atm, mainly because I've never seen his scum game, and I don't really have a read on kira, I don't see him trying to push a scum agenda atm which I guess is towny? but idk - I don't like Stealth's tone but I think there's nothing especially wrong with his content (apart from him stating he doesn't believe there's four confirmed town - that's scummy. not the idea - him stating that, in that tone and with that energy, makes it though)
scum doesn't want town to be OP. ever.
my last scum game, I called MM and Blinkskater out for what I perceived to be angle-shooting - they more or less "confirmed" one another via blink's role. well, they didn't LITERALLY do that, but it was kinda angley and I got mad, because it pretty much meant they were confirmed to one another.
I believe I also got angry as fuck when blinkskater claimed reality bender, because I simply refused to believe the town I was pushing would get such a role (I was 100% convinced blink was going to get lynchde that day).
so, yeah. scum does that. a lot.
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something else that's troubling me:
--------------------------------------MM is being afk. he's not doing anything. he came in, scum painted, set a fucking vote on someone WITHOUT even reading the thread, didn't acknowledge it when I unvoted and told him "DONT DO THAT SB16 HAS 2 VOTES ON HIM", and left. that's scummy. in many ways.
--------------------------------------DAM it feels good to be literate. (random comment pls ignore this)
--------------------------------------I like Huey's thoughts thus far and I don't see any attempt at pushing a scum agenda thus far. at all.
--------------------------------------I dont like MM defending Kira/Efe, its always easy for scum to defend them (they like humouring it, and even in d1 setups they still do it - you look real townie defending the underdog, and besides it's a nice way of scum painting ozy.)
I guess that's a fair point? idk. Idk if I'd made that post as scum. I like to think I'm a better scum than that. I probably am. but meh you're not gonna sit here reading this bullshit :P
anyway - i think I've said everything that needed saying. I think that if I were to use the almighty bird vote, praise be, it would look like this:
Spoiler : cvote :
I think it's certainly possible a Mafia would fake-claim sheriff to defend their own scum buddy - but I think it's also possible for mafia to target a random person. I would do it. Ballsy, but not without its rewards. Would prolly make the citizen think their sheriff was confirmed town lol
if there's only 2TPR, then there's a 66% chance of guessing correctly. very likely IMO
oh btw in case anyone's interested i'ma grab the link to the old Instant Mafia game I played a few months back. brb
S-FM 258: Instant Mafia
I believe aamirus was mafia this game (I don't remember who her partner was). SB16 was mayor.
for some dumb reason we had to discuss role calls that time. idk why and looking back town should 100% instantly claim, OR fake claim citizen and hope a mafia decides to target you.
ah it looks like blink skater was her partner. hm
I dont personally think that link is gonna be of much use? simply because that game progressed in a completely different way. people are actually active this game. that game was a pile of shit. lol
@Marshmallow Marshall
As far as I can tell, and if I count correctly - 5 out of 8 players are leaning towards you and SB16 being Mafia. Actually 6 out of 8, but I think Aamirus still leaning more towards Mag+Rum than to you 2.
If by any reason you thought you had time until EoD, think again. I certainly wouldn't unvote if people starting lynching either of you 2.
SB16 I'm not even giving the courtesy of asking him nicely to come and play the game he signed up for, I don't think he is interested in it.
Honestly, I Think Efe Gave Us Subtle Hint.. Even Though Efe Is Efe..
Efe's post proves he doesn't give a shit if people read him as town. also SB16 voting efe at random d1 in this setup doesn't sit well with me - efe's probably the only player he could get away with randomly voting if he were scum. ANYWAY
I have a pet theory rn which I'm not going to share yet (ha, you thought you were gonna get the juicy secrets? get rekt noob).
im gonna INVESTIGATE it.
I just want to say I will be very suspicious of anyone who hasn't put their vote out yet.
im gonna PM this to blinkskater, if my theory is true I'll be so happy.
in this setup you should 100% vote someone as town. ONLY scum benefits from not having their vote out (well, I suppose it's also possible for one not to have their vote out and be town, but I think it's still the people we should be looking at)
I mean, efe's the only player sb16 could get away with shitvoting without an explanation if sb16 were scum.
oh yes I double checked my notes, I was confused about the team I was envisioning in my alternate world (which I hope is real btw), so yeah. good
ill rephrase it:
efe's post is the worst possible post he could've made if he wanted to look town. and his trolling isn't forced (or idk it doesn't feel forced to me). he clearly doesn't give a crap if people think he's scum.
what kind of a scum claims some town just ruined his plan of, idk, manipulating the town into a scum win? it just doesn't make sense. efe doesn't really throw... I don't know how to explain it but efe doesn't actually game throw. he's just weird. and quite annoying and incapable of admitting he's wrong (I think).
anyway, the point is, thats not a scum efe post. hes not pushing an agenda, nor is he trying to advance the game state. actually, that post was him saying he would sow chaos and discord and make everyone hate him or something (I don't really understand it very well but theres a clear distinction between scum/town efe).