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But the WIFOM isn't meant to be discussed... ALL OF THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT SOFT CLAIMS IS TO BE STOPPED RIGHT NOW, RIGHT AFTER THIS POST.
You literally asked them to continue the discussion about softclaims, which isn't good. And if he did it, it wouldn't exactly be a scum slip, but poor play under your influence/open wolfing.
And no, I don't have him locked as town at all. I'm praying to god that he didn't because it would have hurt town anyway.
For now, I'm keeping you there as my #1 vote. Not saying you're 100% scum of course, but I like where my vote is rn.
@Clank can you form an opinion on anyone yet?
Efekannn's read is he wants me lynched because I told him to chut up in discord.
If you are expecting something else you will be disappointed.
Lynching is bad for the soul.
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I like rumox more after reading.
I think MM's assessment of rumox is a level 0 read, he's taking it at face value when he shouldn't be.
Welcome to my towncore for now.
I also dont think efe would come in so hostile if he were scum either, welcome to my towncore aswell.
Right now: blinks early meta day 1 towncore:
Blink
Mag
Yagami
MM
Rumox
Efe
POE: everyone else.
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I very well may be down for that come closer to eod.
@blinkskater you have played with these people a lot more than I have. Do you find MM's defence of Stealthbomber weird? The vibe of his post comes across as that he knows Stealthbomber is town. He was praying that Stealth didn't reveal his soft claim reads. Why would he be praying for that? Do you think MM thinks that Stealth is a jabroni who can't make critical decisions himself for the betterment of the town? Maybe SB isn't town. Maybe SB is scum, and MM is his scum mate shitting bricks that his team mate might slip.
All I know his MM thinks SB is a jabroni, and I think that alone is fair reason to hand him up to the chopping block for day 1. Whether he is scum or not... I have a lean towards yes.
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I don't find that weird coming from MM, it's normal MM behavior IMO, whether he's actually toen or scum or not yet i'm not sold but i'm leaning more town.
MM knows stealths a good player, and it feels genuine MM paranoia when it doesnt need to be type of thing.
MM is also the type of player who becomes almost transparent day 2 or 3 as far as alignment goes. And is NEVER in any case a good day one lynch. If you nail him as scum day 1, OK you use that to weed out his allies. If he's town it's a miss lynch so that isnt good either.
My take is MM lives today.
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9pm here so heading to bed. If anyone @ me it will be a few hours for a response.
So i show up to work and a storm caused us to lose power on the job site, everyone got sent home for the day =D.
Anyhow i just noticed a kind of flaw in my own logic with that last post. I realize that if i had a scumread on MM and tried to weed out his allies that way that would be fine its a valid way to find more scum.
However if i believed him to be scum it would be just as beneficial to push him because its day one and likley his allies would come to his defense so that would also be a good thing to do
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Although this condorcet voting makes it harder imo to find scum thru voting. This is why I am going to suggest a type of court where we take things into our own hands at the EOD. EOD's usually yeild tons of valuable information especially day 1's. Scum votes are often easier to pick up on due to who has votes how they vote and why they vote. The condorcet system although very cool is a different way of essentially playing the game.
So what i'm suggesting here is we take the two most scumread players from condorcet list, and make a kind of thunderdome between those two players. We then use the site votes to determine who wants to lynch who out of those two players. Majority will rule and amongst ourselves we adjust the condorcet voting to eliminate the player with the most votes.
I think this will yeild tons of alignment indicative information this way. Scum will either have to push a miss lynch or defend their allies publicly and this will give us a chance to pick up on that. It will force scum to post and vote. And make them really uncomfortable.
Due to the condorcet voting i feel scum can just lay low and make sure they are anywhere but at the top of the list.
I think this is our best course of action to draw out the scum and solve the game.
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Good howdy my fellow compatriots and also other foreign folk i, a geezer, have arrived.
So i just gave this good old day so far a pretty quick read through, didnt sit down and analyse everything however i think i have a good bearing on the game so far and thus would like to relinkiush my thoughts to you good people.
So firstly on the Magoroth situation, i dont see what he is doing as necessarily that scummy, i dont like the Vigilante claim that he has made so early into this game and from where i am sat it seems to me like Magoroth is doing what he said he doesnt support, sowing discord. Now such discord erupted from his claim as Vigi and i dont like some of the stupid lines of questioning he reached out to people with, whether it was serious or a meme in that situation i am unsure and to me it does seem like he is out here doing prods on people but not good towny prods but scummy prods. With this said he is only 4th on my list so far, this is in part due to my lack of Meta knowledge, some are saying that meta can make what Mag is doing towny or townier to some degree and so ive adjusted my votes for now to follow that.
Now i have Rumox at the top of my list due to the pushing that was done against SB16 over his great little post on hunting Soft claims, we are early into the game and into the day and we as town shouldnt be looking to hunt out all the soft claims, it gives the town minimal knowledge that could very well be false while the mafia receives some prime knowledge, given they know who is and isnt mafia they can look at the soft claims and say, hit him, hit him or hit him, we have soft claims that the town have given us and really i dont like it. (one thing here that links to magoroth, his claim of Vigi is also the scummiest town claim for a TPR this early i feel due to it being a killing role).
Unknown is second on my list and this comes down to my wish for him to explain his positions more, he made a few posts and didnt really expalin much as to why and just left, as such i feel for know he is a good target to pressure a little to retrive some infomation from. This is kinda the same as to why i have Mojoland third, said nothing and so a lynch on him will not hurt the town much at this point and it is a solid pressure option. Light is the last person i really wanna explain in that upperish bracket. They have not said too much of use or that is interesting while still posting more then some people lower down on the list and that gives me very very light scummy vibes.
As for town reads i have SB16 down in my town reads right now for that great little post he made earlier over soft claiming, a very towny post in my book. I also have blink in my town reads, i feel they have really presented a good position this game and while i fear blink slightly due to a previous game i think at this point they can reside at the solid bottom of the list. Also the Thunderdome, super court at the EOD sounds like a really good plan, ive never used Concordet voting before but given the confusion all the reads and people can cause within it (for example most of those peoples positions in the middle of my list are not in any major thought out order, just a more base line order that i have quickly put together based on activity and surface tier scummyness/townness) i do think that such confusion can be limited and that we can really get to a good lynch through taking out all the lower votes, taking a general aggregate of the top two people and having them be the focus at EOD. This also means that its more likely we can get a good lynch given we are focused on only 2 people as opposed to 4 or 5.
Anyway thats my bit for now, ill be back later on at some point. My Cvote is just below (it matches the above) also @Voss You spoke of an animation earlier, i dunno if it would work but using Flourish could work cause it has a horserace type thing on it.
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I was kind of on your side up until this post but open wolfing is like vaping: it’s all over the fucking place. I really don’t remember anyone’s meta here (and honestly MM, distorted, mag and blink always read the same way to me) so until I see anything that would convince me otherwise, yeah I would think you’d open wolf like that if it would catch me out.
This is the first game in recent memory where nobody has shitclaimed. On that note I claim Mason Assassin.
@Huey The Long i like your post seems legit for now.
However you said mag is doing what he doesn't support, when it infact seemed to me he was doing exactly what he said he supports, flinging actual shit onto the thread and seeing what sticks.
I don't know if you worded it wrong or were trying to show mag in a negative way , thats wherr your explanation will come in thanks
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Efe it's up to you to stop being lazy, i need you to actually use your brain and try solve the game, if you fail to do this i will think you are all talk, and arn't as good as mafia as you claim to be.
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And if i see you saying it's another players fault that you read them wrong i will laugh at you.
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Mm/mag/blink are pretty much interchangeable- you’re all scum. MM and mag have been talking about a shitty claim too much and blinks idea of the thunder dome looks like a big ass waste of focus and resources. Why are we limiting ourselves to 2 people? bruh
Efe/Light/Clank get lumped into the same category of “what the fuck are you”
—don’t want to lynch anyone below this line
I want to hear more from Huey but he had a good post. Seems good for now.
Unknown is my first solid townread. Man has been making good points esp on the topic of meta.
Mojoland will be replaced if he doesn’t post so no need to lynch
Out of time now will maybe probably touch on mesk/Frinckles later
You're miss represnting my plan here, it isn't limiting a lynch between 2 people.
It's re-directing the bottom two most scumread players due to condorcet voting, into a 1v1. One of those players eould be lynched anyways (whoevers at the bottom.)
What i proposed would open up tons of contents and would force scum to start inputting reads and content which i stated in my large post.
In no way can you say it's a waist of focous and resources, that's just a pure discredit to my idea.
And a general "these players are just scum" is a bad way to read the game. That is if you're playing from a town pov.
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This.
You put the two most voted people against each other when?
When EOD when votes change rapidly and people make ridiculous claims?
What happens when suddenly everyone doesn't suspect one of those people anymore -- thunderdome restart?
Right now when we're still trying to figure things out?
I think the system we're using now is fine. It's certainly not perfect but if anyone is distracted by it, that's on them.
It's not unfair to suspect @blinkskater for trying to manipulate the focal point of our voting system or misdirect our attention from 11 other people.
If you want to pressure people for answers or find concise information, I'm sure you know how to.