To Rumox.
This. This seems pro-town, but then, reading the ISO, it was never pursued.
That was never pursued either. There's a lot of "pro-town starts", but no real pushing of a line of thoughts, no consistent thoughts and reads to push. Just points being made that can look towny when took separately because you'd expect more thoughts to come, but they don't come and then the thread advances, and it buries the posts and just gives Unknown free towncred.
I could see that be a scum strategy. It's obviously not a BIG thing, but for D1, I think it's relevant enough for me to do-vote Unknown1234and to keep him as my 2nd vote. Might put him as first vote, depends of reaction
I think I need to see past D1 to make my mind about him, especially with all the claiming stuff. His play can make sense from either perspective, but it will have to become more precise tomorrow.
But what I think about your specific point against him is that it's not good, which doesn't make him town, just not scummier than null.
The first post you quoted was actually pursued after having said it, just not to rumox. I commented on the fact that you were defending rumox only AFTER he actually commented on my post. It was scummy considering you had taken no interest into the post until someone else had brought upon the idea of it being suspicious. Not because you weren't around, since you were online during that time period.
This is the second time I asked this question, and I remember pinging Stealth about it after he had never asked me about it. Stealth addressed this point afterwards, and I felt no reason to push it afterwards once I understood how the voting system actually worked. I don't scum-read Stealth at this point in this game.
I don't think Magoroth is mafia. I made that point clear earlier, which nobody seemed to pay attention to. I have him high on my vote list because I think he's the Serial Killer, but if he actually is then I'm more worried about blinkskater being mafia than him being Sk.
Ummm no, it wasn't pursued lol, what comes next in the ISO is "Why are you defending the soft-claim" and then a bunch of vote testing that comes much later. Why do you lie on that point o.O did you expect me to just answer to your counterpush and not doublecheck if you were lying...?
And 2nd paragraph, okay, but that comes down to what I accused you of doing earlier, though. Can't really say it's strong content, even though it LOOKS useful.
I've made this point a couple times now, but I feel that this game blinkskater has been playing more to make friends with people than to scum-hunt. He was throwing around town-reads and inviting people into his "town core" with justifications that were far from being reasonable. So yes, I do think he was trying to convince Mesk to vote with him, and I don't think they are scum together.
I wanted to cvote you over Efe, but it looks like the thing won't load again lol, so I'll just leave it to that because I still don't mind policy lynching Efe (and it's not that much a policy lynch since he's not really playing to his town meta, he's not trying to help town via his trolling, it's just creating chaos), whatever y'all think about it, I'm still willing to do it.
Unknown becomes my only actual scumread as of now, though. And now I'm sleepy (it's 6:37 AM as I am writing this and I haven't slept), so good morning/night whatever it is for you guys ^^
If you think that was the intention then you are really grasping at straws to try to make me look bad. I admit that I never made that post (which for some reason I thought I had) but that was my thoughts as of why I mentioned you commenting on my vote afterwards. The vote was meant to progress discussion away from meta/soft claiming, which ended up creating discussion regardless.
Once again, you choose to justify your read on blinkskater using Meta. Nobody in this game has said that blinkskaters actions are pro-town, just that "This is something blinkskater would do as town".
In my last game playing on this site (and blinkskater was town) he had focused more on tunnel pushing people than he had on his town core. He did have a town-core, but it wasn't through the same ways that he has this game including buddying people extensively without reason to do so. So if that's how you think blinkskaters meta is, I'm going to disagree with you there.
I'm hesitant to believe that Blink is not town simply because hard defending me makes very little sense from a scum perspective on day 1.
If I am mafia with him, he is effectively dooming mafia. I have been lynch priority or close to for the entire game after the first 5 pages. Why even bother? If my scum mate was that far gone day 1 I would bus the fuck out of him.
If I am town and he is mafia, why attach himself to a situation that without his input would probably result in a free miss lynch. So he can say "i told you so"?. That doesn't seem like it's worth the trouble.
I said it before Blink digs his feet into the ground when he town reads someone. I'm not hard town leaning on him because of this, he can easily do that as scum. But the circumstances surrounding his stance on me just doesn't make me come to the conclusion that he is scum. Unless he is playing a wild SK, no point entertaining that idea just right now tho.
I still think MM is the best lynch today. I can't get over his massive flip flop of having me as lynch priority, then moving me to his HIGHEST town read because he wanted to sheep Blink. No one seems to care about it, only Blink and Magoroth have given notice to it.
Can anyone honestly say this is a town mindset when considering the alignment of someone, let alone such a drastic change of opinion? I would never have my opinion changed on someone I have as #1 scum read simply by hearing someone go "your #1 scum read scum read someone blatantly being scummy".
@rumox do you still think MM is scum? Because right now I don't feel like lynching either of you.
Blinkskater had MM in his town core at one point and flipped onto MM for saying the word weird multiple times. Not being able to say scum does seem unusual, but the fact is that after that moment blinkskater made everything MM did scummy. If MM was being scummy from that point onward, why wouldn't he have thought that beforehand?
You just explained exactly why Blinkskater would do that if he was scum. He has spent the entire game trying to get people to see his reads as accurate (Even suggesting that his lynch would be "beneficial for town"). If he was scum and he was hard town-reading you and you ended up flipping town, then people would think he was town for defending you. That is EXACTLY why he would do it.
I could see blinkskater being scum with either of you. Attempting to deflect the attention onto MM, the next viable lynch, and trying to save you. OR, attempting to push a lynch onto his already highly suspicious teammate in order to gain town-cred. This might be a stretch, but I haven't seen anything in this game that's made me think twice about blinkskater being town.
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I Like How People Suddenly Think Im A Null Read That Can Fake Their Town Meta Lol
Back In The Past Games You Guys Said Literally The Opposite And Now Why The Hell Are You Agreeing With Me Now?
MM Is Definitively Scummy And I Refuse To Lynch Him
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My previous post says I do.
Fucks me man you're gunna have to link posts where this happened.
Yeah. Don't get me wrong, I 100% can see that. I may be tunnelling too hard on MM to let my priority lynch go. Time to reflect. Basically I have a hard time believing Blink would go this balls to the wall as scum day 1.
Also finding it hard to scum read him for something he literally does every game regardless of his alignment (that I have also been in)
Is Voss playing the game? if not, can that discussion go elsewhere? its clogging the thread
With that said, I do like the voting system because its basically youre voting with your tiermaker lol
Why do you not want to lynch MM? His 180 flip flop on me because blink said "ur scum read scum read someone being scummy" is fucking bizarre. What town player changes their mind on someone so drastically on their lynch priority candidate? I'll quote it again
From lynch priority candidate to TOP town read. Because of the post he was responding to? Nah man
Alright, im starting my readback. Gonna post in page increments because the forum software is 2009 tier. My initial thoughts going into this is that I would probably lynch Mesk/Marshmallow/Yubashi (i think thats his name). Lets see if that changes at all:
Spoiler : PAGE 1 Thoughts :
Spoiler : cvote :
Updated cvote. This is a pretty accurate representation of my reads from scum to town. Middle of the pack (efe to blink) are indifferent feeling.
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Spoiler : page 2 thoughts :
Spoiler : pg 3 thoughts :
Spoiler : page4 :
Bruh if you are going to go through all 17 pages I will town read you over myself lmao
Spoiler : pg5 :
damnit i picked the wrong font..
Spoiler : pg 6 :