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[S-FM deviantart]

Also there was a misunderstanding.

Where I come from N0 is implicitly stated in the set up thread, and first day post. This is my first game here so bare with me. Also, the first post here by host said game wouldnt start till timer ran out. I took that to mean no factions would have access to chats or submitting roles if the game had not started.

Clearly I was wrong.

But telling me I cannot read because I read verbatim what the host wrote on his first page, and not taking the word of a player in the game or your word, does not mean I'm incapable of logical thought. You did attack my intelligence and not for merit.

So if you want me to sit back and do nothing and say nothing, I don't see how that helps solve the game, but I feel and MP are two strong lynch targets imo.

Also your post that started all this was TMI to me and still is, and I'll die on this hill

[DEVIANTART STUFF HERE]

The host never confirmed that there is a mafia OR a triad. He says SOMEOR ALL are in the game. Meaning it could be demons, and cult, cult by itself, only neutrals not aligned. The certainty at which you said the MAFIA have a n0 chat, makes me think you outed yourself as MAFIA. It's unbelievable to me that you cannot see how I could see that.

To answer saying why would swag state he did a n0 action, I stated this before, so I don't like that swag went to a time and pulled quotes from before host confirmed n0 to throw shade. However, SWAG was town read at that time, confirming Devi's theory of N0 lends to give Devi' back up and town cred. Swag is not confirmed town as much as I am confirmed town by your thoughts of shenanigans.

Please someone objective tell me I'm crazy for seeing someone state definitively that there was a mafia N0 chat when there is not confirmed mafia in the game.

first and foremost i completely understand. transcending mafia communities doesntt always come with the same standardization you might be used to. @Stealthbomber16 certainly should have let us known that those mechanics existed upfront and thats on him although i think weve possibly learned more from that miscommunication that nothing at all.

we had a frustrating back and forth but it was rude of me to come at you like that, ill avoid that kind of rhetoric in the future. id also hate to be someone to deter people from a community that i respect so without knowing your name, welcome to SC2Mafia. i dont actually want you to sit back, that was frustration.

----you quoting me----

that post was made after i had gone back to re-read the earlier interactions. i felt a bit silly after confusing a bunch of pink names (though im not sure why purple/blue works better for me, maybe i just know ur names more now.) anyway, if you remember i had confused a few earlier interactions from yoek/smiley/masterpiece and yourself trying to find patterns and you called me out on my derp.

anyway, at the time i was trying to discern why a cop under absolutely no pressure would reveal. to be honest, i still dont but you did and thats what we are working with. you are not in any way off the hook to me but we both understand the situation.

i can see how youre taking the mafia portion out of context but thats a bad hill to die on. I being me play with sc2mafia generally. this forum shit plays with wolves/cultists/(demons apparently) in-thread kills and a bunch of other shit. would it have been better if i specified wolves instead? i dont mind your point of view reading that as a slip, but considering the status quo and my contributions, i think its a rather weak read. ill also add that throughout all of this you never specified THAT context as your particular read. you implied that i had historic knowledge of a meeting when i only read the past tense within the first 8 pages.

swag is not confirmed. i am not confirmed. you are not confirmed. you are correct.

also were playing the game called mafia on the website sc2mafia. come on cuz.

[S-FM deviantart]

Also notice how you called me a nerd in your wall post too. You just can't stop insulting me. Kinda sad you cannot play with out being toxic.

But oh well.

I laid out my case for a slip. It's up to others.

i was having fun. see my above post for the apology.

[S-FM deviantart]

i was having fun. see my above post for the apology.

and see this post for anatha wan'



sorry.

[S-FM deviantart]

Deviantart, I shit on myself how? Is it because I cant forcibly interject myself into interactions and circle jerk it instead? 😂 crying

[S-FM screams]

first and foremost i completely understand. transcending mafia communities doesntt always come with the same standardization you might be used to. @Stealthbomber16 certainly should have let us known that those mechanics existed upfront and thats on him although i think weve possibly learned more from that miscommunication that nothing at all.

we had a frustrating back and forth but it was rude of me to come at you like that, ill avoid that kind of rhetoric in the future. id also hate to be someone to deter people from a community that i respect so without knowing your name, welcome to SC2Mafia. i dont actually want you to sit back, that was frustration.

----you quoting me----

that post was made after i had gone back to re-read the earlier interactions. i felt a bit silly after confusing a bunch of pink names (though im not sure why purple/blue works better for me, maybe i just know ur names more now.) anyway, if you remember i had confused a few earlier interactions from yoek/smiley/masterpiece and yourself trying to find patterns and you called me out on my derp.

anyway, at the time i was trying to discern why a cop under absolutely no pressure would reveal. to be honest, i still dont but you did and thats what we are working with. you are not in any way off the hook to me but we both understand the situation.

i can see how youre taking the mafia portion out of context but thats a bad hill to die on. I being me play with sc2mafia generally. this forum shit plays with wolves/cultists/(demons apparently) in-thread kills and a bunch of other shit. would it have been better if i specified wolves instead? i dont mind your point of view reading that as a slip, but considering the status quo and my contributions, i think its a rather weak read. ill also add that throughout all of this you never specified THAT context as your particular read. you implied that i had historic knowledge of a meeting when i only read the past tense within the first 8 pages.

swag is not confirmed. i am not confirmed. you are not confirmed. you are correct.

also were playing the game called mafia on the website sc2mafia. come on cuz.

I actually did point out the mafia part of it when I initially called the it a slip. It was largely ignored and that’s partially why I was certain you were trying to scum paint me.

[S-FM screams]

and see this post for anatha wan'



sorry.

Thanks

[S-FM deviantart]

I actually did point out the mafia part of it when I initially called the it a slip. It was largely ignored and that’s partially why I was certain you were trying to scum paint me.

oh well then yes thats certainly a big misunderstanding on both our parts.

[S-FM screams]

ALSO THERE IS NO CONFIRMED MAFIA IN GAME.


It could be a cult set up. With one cultist.

It could be a slew of neutrals not aligned.

THERE COULD BE NO NIGHT CHAT.

Also, there was no N0. In almost every FM i've played, mafia doesn't get a night chat prior to day 1 starting / the official start of the game.

The fact you seem SO locked on this, and your consistent random tunnel on me, only convinces me further you have more information than a town should have.

This is where I initially said it

Just FYI

[S-FM screams]

We should focus on are day 1 lynch

[S-FM deviantart]

This is where I initially said it

Just FYI

word.

eh I usually just say mafia. scum is probably more acceptable in most communities. FWIW i did say scum in the following line.

[S-FM deviantart]

We should focus on are day 1 lynch

smiley or one of the goons as outlined in my post.

your pick copperino

[S-FM Harold]

Deviantart, I asked you a question, sir.

[S-FM :(]

Everything you say is a coded message. I get all of them.

That was addressed to Masterpiece, btw. Can you elaborate, Screams?

~~

About my scumread on Yoek early on, I think it was mainly based on those posts.

I'm unsure that it feels genuine. Do i kind of maybe a LITTLE bit agree? Yeah, I do.

But i will be looking closely there for reads and progressions, id they don't seem natural I will sniff it out.

Do i

Would you be egg-ging right now? This feels like the incarnation of hedging lol. You are sitting on the fence so hard it's about to cut you in half....

Hedging was the big deal there I believe. And it's still a bit scummy to me after some time, but it's far from being anything strong, unlike the TvT interaction with Masterpiece, which is the reason of my flip flop.
[ QUOTE=S-FM yoek;825740]The instant focus on mechanics rubbed me the wrong way. Felt agendish in a scummy way.[/QUOTE]
That was also weird, since focusing on mechanics is just a strategy, it's NAI, so that really felt like scumpainting. I guess it can also be seen as theory disagreement, though.

[S-FM deviantart]

Deviantart, I shit on myself how? Is it because I cant forcibly interject myself into interactions and circle jerk it instead? 😂 crying

okay lets go down the rabbit hole

@S-FM Harold [18]: imagine coming off as town and then shitting all over yourself for multiple posts in a row. buddying-fillering-making no sense. thats harold. absolute haram

13 out of your 20 posts are complete nonesense or garbage. of the remaining seven we have:

'complementing my picture' (probably the best thing you've written.)
'stop focusing on mechanics lynch lynch!' (a suitable opposition for my town entrance. was an initial town read tbh.)
'we probably have town ptr(s) because i am hinting tpr in a tpr setup lynch lynch!' (ok)
'im afraid of unneeded conflict but i will start unneded conflict' (ok)
'comms bad u bad' (actually well spoken, contributed little to the game despite being right.)
'screams is my leader' (quick buddy here ok)

so I guess i could only find 6/7 not awful posts after reviewing them.

i dont really know what you want from me. good job?

[S-FM screams]

That was addressed to Masterpiece, btw. Can you elaborate, Screams?

~~

About my scumread on Yoek early on, I think it was mainly based on those posts.



Hedging was the big deal there I believe. And it's still a bit scummy to me after some time, but it's far from being anything strong, unlike the TvT interaction with Masterpiece, which is the reason of my flip flop.
[ QUOTE=S-FM yoek;825740]The instant focus on mechanics rubbed me the wrong way. Felt agendish in a scummy way.

That was also weird, since focusing on mechanics is just a strategy, it's NAI, so that really felt like scumpainting. I guess it can also be seen as theory disagreement, though.[/QUOTE]


MP was using a lot of quotes and stuff from movies and tv shows early on. I just caught all of the references. One I had to google to know where it was from, but I knew it was from some form of entertainment.

[S-FM screams]

That was also weird, since focusing on mechanics is just a strategy, it's NAI, so that really felt like scumpainting. I guess it can also be seen as theory disagreement, though.

MP was using a lot of quotes and stuff from movies and tv shows early on. I just caught all of the references. One I had to google to know where it was from, but I knew it was from some form of entertainment.[/QUOTE]

Be advised the first part of my shit is actually a messed up quote from

[S-FM deviantart]

That was addressed to Masterpiece, btw. Can you elaborate, Screams?

~~

About my scumread on Yoek early on, I think it was mainly based on those posts.



Hedging was the big deal there I believe. And it's still a bit scummy to me after some time, but it's far from being anything strong, unlike the TvT interaction with Masterpiece, which is the reason of my flip flop.
[ QUOTE=S-FM yoek;825740]The instant focus on mechanics rubbed me the wrong way. Felt agendish in a scummy way.

That was also weird, since focusing on mechanics is just a strategy, it's NAI, so that really felt like scumpainting. I guess it can also be seen as theory disagreement, though.[/QUOTE]

nawh. it was (admittedly good) aggressive early game scumpainting by a few people. im keeping an eye on yoek fwiw.

if your trying to get my vote to move though, id look away from yoek/screams for now. honest advice

[S-FM deviantart]

ew that quote melted on my phone soz eryone

[S-FM :(]

At this point, I think we might just want to vote the null slots to force them to participate, and perhaps lynch them to clear the null if they don't do it by themselves.

-vote S-FM THANOS SQUARE

[S-FM :(]

ew that quote melted on my phone soz eryone

Nope, that's my fault, I messed quotes and now everyone quoting my post is having trouble lol

[S-FM Harold]

okay lets go down the rabbit hole




13 out of your 20 posts are complete nonesense or garbage. of the remaining seven we have:

'complementing my picture' (probably the best thing you've written.)
'stop focusing on mechanics lynch lynch!' (a suitable opposition for my town entrance. was an initial town read tbh.)
'we probably have town ptr(s) because i am hinting tpr in a tpr setup lynch lynch!' (ok)
'im afraid of unneeded conflict but i will start unneded conflict' (ok)
'comms bad u bad' (actually well spoken, contributed little to the game despite being right.)
'screams is my leader' (quick buddy here ok)

so I guess i could only find 6/7 not awful posts after reviewing them.

i dont really know what you want from me. good job?

No sir, I do not want a praise. Just an insight of where that came from. I am naturally just one of those that cant help but add my stupid comment here and there. However, I agree, probably not the most productive ever.

I actually dont know where I stand at this moment on anyone. I need to do some rereading and go through what lynches provide the most information here and make note of what benefits who

[S-FM :(]

No sir, I do not want a praise. Just an insight of where that came from. I am naturally just one of those that cant help but add my stupid comment here and there. However, I agree, probably not the most productive ever.

I actually dont know where I stand at this moment on anyone. I need to do some rereading and go through what lynches provide the most information here and make note of what benefits who

You can't really have NO ideas at all on ANYTHING productive if you had time to shitpost, come on...

[S-FM Harold]

I say the end part cause my history has shown me policy lynches and uneducated? placement of votes has made for terrible day 1s in plenty of games

[S-FM deviantart]

I actually dont know where I stand at this moment on anyone. I need to do some rereading and go through what lynches provide the most information here and make note of what benefits who

cant wait to hear.

[S-FM deviantart]

NOW something different
whilst our shitpicks for d1 lynchings fight for their sovereignty, let me turn your attention to something new, innovative and exciting. my interpretation of..

avatar pictures

disclaimer: obviously our names were somewhat related to our avatars, which may or may not be based off of role. we may or may not have these roles but its plausible your speculation of a picture could be a role in this game. fun!

S-FM THANOS SQUARE
-not sure what this is to be honest. The Grimace is a possibility. "He is known for his slow-witted demeanor. His most common expression is the word "duh" before every sentence."

S-FM yoek
-clearly an egg. or unborn monster role. this is a ticking time bomb

S-FM Peepee poo poo
-caitlyn from league of legends. disenfranchised angry lady with a rifle and one very large hat. more obviously a role with a fucking gun.

S-FM Hey peter
-this is jabba the hut, a horrible caricature of a 'pin-head' or just a big fatty. probably benign and gross.

S-FM screams
-some sort of wrestler or entertainer. you can barely see them

S-FM
-lul. you know you did this intentionally.

S-FM jfk
-similar to Peepee, we have a gun role. look up though. thats sunlight. this man can shoot during the day, very dangerous.

S-FM Harold
-Bumblebee Man, is the star of a Spanish-language television sitcom on Channel 8, in which he dresses in a bumblebee costume and performs slapstick comedy. probably SK.

S-FM swag98
-zelda on acid

S-FM Masterpiece
-sea creature obviously.

S-FM bungalow
-a man clad in armor outside of a home. this must be the Ikea Couch King. kneel before him while you can.

[Stealthbomber16]

you should all vote for :(

[S-FM deviantart]

you should all vote for

ive been saying this for years.

[Stealthbomber16]

ive been saying this for years.

we're friends now

[S-FM THANOS SQUARE]

At this point, I think we might just want to vote the null slots to force them to participate, and perhaps lynch them to clear the null if they don't do it by themselves.

-vote S-FM THANOS SQUARE

IM THANOS!

[S-FM :(]

cant wait to hear.

Yep, me too!

If you didn't understand, @S-FM Harold , this means that if you don't do it, I am pushing you to DEATH.

IM THANOS!

pls contribute more than this. You seriously need more than shitposts to convince us you're town.


Also, Deviantart : The avatars are probably not all linked to roles, and even if they were, people don't get the roles they sumbit anyway, so it is very pointless to analyze avatars lol.
Why should I be lynched, again? I don't really understand. I've given the things you wanted me to give for my defense, and kept scumhunting and townhunting on the side of it. What the hell do you need more than that lol?

[S-FM :(]

IM THANOS!

also deviantart you didn't notice the electric plug here, it's obviously an electromaniac role. An electromaniac who drank too much grape juice, to be accurate...

[S-FM THANOS SQUARE]

also deviantart you didn't notice the electric plug here, it's obviously an electromaniac role. An electromaniac who drank too much grape juice, to be accurate...

Im gonna balance this game in my own way

[S-FM Masterpiece]

-unvote

[S-FM bungalow]

Family Guy. Family Guy Funny Moments. Hey Lois. Hey Peter. Giggity giggity goo. Quagmire. How are we all today. I got drunk and then got my picture taken. So that way when I get pulled over for drunk driving, I look the same as on my license. How does it feel to be the least cultured person at a bus station. At least it's not raining. I am in the dog house. The dog is in the dog house. Alakazam. Alzabahoo. Shazam. Pazow. Maybe we need to expand our brains. It seems today, that all you see, is violence in movies, and sex on TV. But where are those good old-fashioned values... On which we used to rely? I may be limited on the amount of game information I may communicate. I may not be limited on the amount of game information I may communicate. This game is complicated. I am a magical wizard. I am the magical wizard. I cast fist. I cast death.

I am an extremely important and powerful town-sided role.
I am an extremely important and powerful town-sided role.
I am an extremely important and powerful town-sided role.

I require all of the protection available to me.
I require all of the protection available to me.
I require all of the protection available to me.

Very interesting, so your roles got heavy daychat restrictions? Rip you I guess lol. What happens if you don’t respect them?

[S-FM bungalow]

Also pls refer to me as IKEA and not bungalow, I actually thought you were talking about someone else xd

[S-FM bungalow]

Yep, me too!

If you didn't understand, @S-FM Harold , this means that if you don't do it, I am pushing you to DEATH.




pls contribute more than this. You seriously need more than shitposts to convince us you're town.


Also, Deviantart : The avatars are probably not all linked to roles, and even if they were, people don't get the roles they sumbit anyway, so it is very pointless to analyze avatars lol.
Why should I be lynched, again? I don't really understand. I've given the things you wanted me to give for my defense, and kept scumhunting and townhunting on the side of it. What the hell do you need more than that lol?

I agree with the first two statements. I am comfortable with a Masterpiece, Harold or Smileyface Lynch today, though I do feel I am not as certain of the latter as I used to be...

Also I see I got pinged. Brb

[S-FM bungalow]

You support a lynch on the active person you don't know about more than on the scum lean? Okaaay...

Openly not caring about who dies isn't really a typical scum behavior lol. I don't have a townread on Peepee poo poo, but he's still not really scummy.

Yeah that’s why I am scumreading him lol... he’s hedging hard. I honestly think we should lynch in that direction.

[S-FM bungalow]

Seems like you care, or are at least trying to act like you are :P

xD my boss was coming, had to say something

[S-FM bungalow]

well that settles that..

also hear is my reads list.

pelimanry reads list i suck at reading ppl day 1 my best reads come day 2

peter - no comments null - afk towny or hidden scum

yoek - slight scum lean - claims to be a god - claims to not be scum in a pretty funny way.

- is one of them that can go either way not overly scummy not overly towny. id support a lynch here more so then the sheriff with night immunity atm.

Peepee Poo Poo - doesnt care who dies - most likely scum

screams - has been pretty confrintational over some very minor things - could be open wolfing - but with his role claim its hard to say.

deviantart - is kinda null for me right now. has contributed and his N0 theory along with swags is interesting. could be wolf slips or honest speculation.

bugalow - jumps into pockets - seems ready to hammer - slight scum lean

swag98 - claimed a N0 action with no real way for us to actually know. unless he is actually scum.

Harold - null read - hasnt said 2 much and hasnt rocked the boat.

Thanos Square - for some reason my mind has him as locked neutral. cant say for sure why i think that. maybe just gut.

JFK - slight town lean but still 2 soon to say if so. he did have some strong opening posts.

Masterpiece - ppl think this slot is scummy mearly for being objective and thinking critically. a wise man once said. to catch scum you have to think and act like scum.

I think this reads list feels awfully scummy lol... just lots of heading and refusing to commit to a proper stance wrt players’ alignment. This feels a lot like a reads list I woulda made as scum in first few games. Also, if you think yolk is scum, who is he in a team with? Me?? Im pretty sure I would never call a scum buddy my top town lean as scum. I’m not changing my vote.

[S-FM bungalow]

Also, I just had a random thought. Stealth mentioned that the scum team could be cultor Demons, it makes me wonder if that means the cult could recruit.
@Stealthbomber16 , would a Cult team have the ability to to recruit players to their alignment?1.
Would a Mafia team have a factional night kill or some other ability of this kind? 2.
Lastly, do they know each other’s names? Like, their real identity and not their intake accounts?

[S-FM bungalow]

Im gonna balance this game in my own way

This isn’t the post I meant to quote but why do I feel like you’re buddying me lol

[S-FM yoek]

Oi, why the hell did nothing really happen overnight?

[S-FM bungalow]

Also, note to everyone saying X or Y could be neutral: the setup thread states that there’s one scum team, and one majority faction. No room for neuts, unless someone’s got a role with a unique wincon.

[S-FM bungalow]

also deviantart you didn't notice the electric plug here, it's obviously an electromaniac role. An electromaniac who drank too much grape juice, to be accurate...

Can you post an updated reads list btw? Curious where you stand on things.

[S-FM yoek]

I mean i think that screams will eventually be solved over time, i don't see any reason to delve into his wifom.

Deviant i think will also be solved over the course of time. He's posted so much and is giving reads on players, we never lynch there today aswell.

Although i think his "avatars list." Is just bringing us dleeper down a path of shit and speculation that we shouldn't be worrying about, because guess what it's unknown.

I also don't like the fact that you used that to passivly discredit some players using the speculative "avatar theory." Like ok I get it i'm an egg sunny side up, ok cool how does that correlate into me being a ticking time bomb brewing into some kind of monster?

I was trying to think of town motivation for making a discredit like that and I couldn' t come up with one, it just doesn't make sense

[S-FM yoek]

Can you post an updated reads list btw? Curious where you stand on things.

Agreed.

[S-FM yoek]

S-fm bungalow what are your thoughts on swag98?

[S-FM bungalow]

S-fm bungalow what are your thoughts on swag98?

I remember saying I liked them because their take on things aligned rather well with mine, and they’ve seemed rather conducive to cooperating and contributing. I like the slot, and I believe they are most likely town.

Edit: I just reread the setup, the ghost only mentioned the town and mafias wincons but didn’t say they would be the only factions this game. And neutrals are entirely possible. Hmm

[S-FM yoek]

Hmm bungalow it's easy to come into the thread and townread me, it's also easy to mirror some of my scumreads, what are some other town for you?

Also whats your take on deviant?

[S-FM bungalow]

Deviants the type of player who can very easily get townread as scum, I feel. I’m hesitant to go either way regarding their alignment. I don’t feel as though there is any ill intent in his posts, not that he could be giving off scum vibes. I do not like that argument, I feel he is very towny. Not lynching him today and probably not tomorrow either.

That’s kinda what gives me pause wrt, spag98 and Screams. I feel like he shouldn’t be scumread rn.