because Frinckles reaction to being the poisoner target and pretty much nobody giving a shit is townie as fuck, I 100% don't believe he is scum
there's also a time and place for killing him. and that's not today.
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
@Magoroth
you think wiisp is lying then?
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
no, I just think he might be wrong, there's a lot of TPR claims this game which implies the role you claim doesn't clear you
from a game balance perspective, two town lovers make sense, it makes the lovers doubt each other (which is what happened here), and it makes it so actually claiming lover gets you nightkilled
I mean from another perspective I still don't see how anyone other Kenny/Gyr and scv/Frinckles could be scum, so I think we should lynch Gyr/shoot Kenny, kill Scv and then if it's not yet over, Frinckles
also with senor sito now being Otis Howe, that leaves Kenny "Father Adams" as the only person in the game not having a normal first and last name, so I am suspicious of that being his real name.
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
Nah, Wiisp claim smells like bullshit. I also can't believe there are 2 lovers in this hidden game.
Thank you Anonymous Donor
I mean with everyone else being:
Jane Goodman
Elizabeth Landry
Carl Flynn
Jack Vincent
Max McKnight
Otis Howe
Sarah Case
Fern Monroe
John Baker
Josiah Palidin
Ralph Flynn
Abbie Woods
(and presumably Ellie Moon somewhere)
Father Adams seems off to me.
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
@Frinckles why not shoot Kenny? from your perspective he is almost certainly scum
Mag you are the only one in the game right now who thinks it's mechanically possible for Frinckles to flip town.
Frinckles' argumentation about my read on him changing is completely meaningless too. Before I had a read for his behavior, today it's a mechanical read from claims and actions. When I think it's within the setup's mechanics 100% not possible for a player to flip town I instantly drop any behavioral reads I've had, it's that simple.
Also pretty sure I've clearly said day 1 I was reading him as citizen. His coroner claim did not match that read.
I agree. I think along with maybe MM I also seem to be the only one who neither has names of others in his card, nor is mentioned in another player's card. My full name as written in my card is Father Silas Adams though, just didn't seem to matter to me before.
I also just noticed that's the name of one of the bad guys in Deadwood LOL
hm, idk, maybe you're right
the reaction is really townie tho
It seemed to me like scum giving up on the game yesterday at 4 am or what it was. Definitely didn't look townie to me at that time.
I think Frinckles played a good game, and Wiisp, who says he didn't even read Frinckles claim, being the only one to scumread him day 1 proves that pretty well. I'd be disappointed too if I were to get mechanically cleared in his situation, hence why I've also read his reaction that way.
It's just, if someone makes up a fake name, while trying to hint it at a guy scumreading him, gives no insight on his flavor, apart from the useless stuff, then claims coroner the next day, then later on also says he has a bulletproof vest, even later in the day then reveals he was lover, says he lied about his name all along, and to top it all off then comes up with some story of his lie being necessary for survival, despite absolutely noone having had any clues about either Wiisp or Frinckles being lover, and tries to frame the people who don't believe his claim, that settles it as confirmed scum to me.
And I was Kristopher Harris in Cryptonic's Chicago game, that had exactly the same wincons Wiisp described. My lover that game was the serial killer, played by Mike. Gyrlander having claimed a role that is 100% a Sarah Hart clone, even with the same first name, helps making me think that more as well.
Tho, Sarah Hart's crush in Cryptonic's game was the town mayor I gotta admit
Ah, until now MM was holding the record of the most consecutive posts in an FM game with 13 in a row. Aamirus broke that record with 29 posts in a row yesterday.
Congrats, we're all part of a milestone in sc2mafia history right here thanks to that.
I'd be tunneling if I didn't admit there is merit to the way you're reading it so, ya, I guess that's also possible
my PoE is the same, I don't think it's possible for anyone apart from SCV/Gyr/Frinck/Kenny to be scum
Also advice everyone to properly read their wincons, just as a reminder. Without intent of discussing, that'd be angleshooting.
Hey naz, you are the one I'm supposed to LOVE.
Thank you Anonymous Donor
Rip naz is on a wanted poster
And loved by someone who isn't town
How come Gyrlander is even the only one who's able to read the name on the wanted poster that's just hanging there in the bar
Are we all that wasted already
So you expect me to believe that as an anti-executioner, in a flavor heavy cryptonic game, that instead of knowing the flavor of the person, you know their actual name?
Kek
I still don't wanna believe that frinckles is a wolf here, like if he really wanted to hide his name, he wouldn't have softed senor auto or call himself macho
But I also don't think Kenny is a wolf, though if he is, he's stepped up from the last game I played with him
Lynch Gyr, and re-evaluate at next day start
I got about 3 hours before I leave for work, up until 30 mins before EoD, so ya, fun fun
Senor Otis* god damn phone auto correct
@Frinckles
Wait are you a true lover? I completely forgot you also claimed two other roles, ya I take it back if you flip town here I'll be surprised, secondly if Kenny is right, I probably only die if you die, but I bet vice versa it isn't true if you are mafia
That's my 2¢, maybe I'm off base, I don't care anymore, I'm just trying to solve this game
After rereading Chicago (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...-Chicago-Setup), the setup this is 100% without a doubt an almost exact copy of, I'm now taking back what I said about scv. His claim does not put him off limits.
I also really don't understand that turn on Kenny either, don't think how he reacted was wolfy, and when new information forms it's not that odd for town to 180 their read on someone