It's not really OMGUS, it's more like a vote on post #97 when nothing more than a contested roleplay claim has been done (and yes I still believe SB16 is claiming truth). Calling me scummy for voting you is OMGUS, though. It literally is the definition of OMGUS, when you even add a "babe" to your message lol
And aamirus, about post #102: watch this =)
Shit he’s gone.
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
*The room is spinning, theres empty ale bottles everywhere. "My head fucking hurts i think to myself." There's something playing on the TV I walk over to take a closer look. Theres a scummy little marshmellow man dancing around in womans clothing howling at the moon repeatedly. I recognize the man. His acting has been improving latley why would he take on a role like this I wonder? Probally wants to come on strong and have the appearence of his former self. A voice from behind startles me, "The door was open I tried knocking." It was Aamirus! As I turned to greet her I just remembered I wasn't wearing any clothes. A golden light gleamed from my nether regions. She gasped."I... i'm sorry i didn't realize it was your birthday."
Hello bois, I am the new guy coming up in this weird spirit infested city, need directions to the nearest inn so I can settle down and unpack my equipment
"I agree with your analysis. The Marshall could very well be trying to use me for his own benefits. Who stands to independently gain from the spirit's death?"
I nod at the newcomer.
"Take a right at the next crossing, the inn is the second building on the left. It's quite cheap. Not very many people are here so the demand is low.
Let me introduce myself. My name is Francis Patrón. I've been tasked with hunting down the spirits plaguing this place. Although it's beginning to seem like there may be more here than just that."
You're not God. Your word is not the Law.Can't ju---You SHOULDN'T do that as town because that's just scumpainting, at this point, because you give strictly no reasoning. What your post looks like is you saying that anyone who disagrees with you is scum, and anyone who thinks about you maybe town is town (that's a bit of an abusive generalisation but you get it).
From what i can see of the setup really we should be trying to determine two things.
1. what ability the Virus will use at night because that will give us a good indication of whether the visiting town roles should be more wary in their moves or not. With that really any claims of a town role that visits shouldn't say who they are visiting because it will give the Virus an easy picking. With that said ploys and fake leads by visiting town roles could be highly effective against the virus, especially in this early point in the game.
2. We need to be wary of every single claim of town or scum we get back from spiritualists because obviously the Shaman makes somebody look like a scum, and the alpha wolf is invest immune while the omega wolf survives. Furthermore claims of non visits from the spirit trackers end should be brought up while the omega wolf is about because that could be the Alpha wolf.
As for Stealth-bombers claim i find it interesting why he would claim hunter so early. As a town that obviously means he can receive shaman protection and it allows the rest of us to talk and coordinate with him easily to choose targets to shoot or if we should even shoot in the first place that day. However as a scum claim i feel that it has major benefits for Stealth. It means that if the shaman protects him and he is investigated then it being scum is just what happens and is because of the shaman. If he shaman doesn't protect him and he comes up as town that could be because he is the alpha wolf. Furthermore as the scum he can kill who we say he should as town. Plus at this point in the game we very much could have 2 hunters which makes his claim not implausible if another hunter is about.
So it is a risky play for scum but it is one that could have a high payout. With that i would say he isnt the Virus because the Virus has no good reason to claim like that.
1. I think it's likely virus will go with the longer death timer that can catch multiple people. That's what happened in the first iteration of this setup (spirits II(a), not just spirits). TPRs should be careful; after all, safety can't hurt right now. Maybe reveals will be useful in the late game, though.
2. Yep, the Spiritualist results are to take with a handful of salt.
That is true; I say that a spiritualist on Stealth is a waste, at this point. I'm still considering the move as town by meta, but if it was someone who I knew was a fan of fancy and risky plays *cough* blinkskater *cough*, I wouldn't say the same thing.
And yes, claiming that as a Virus is a dead end.
I like your analysis, that's what Town should be doing IMO, so I'm putting you in my town list for now.
I would also agree a spiritualist on Stealth is wasteful right now as previous. I dont think the Shaman should protect them either, really i feel the shaman should go with their own list of who they think is town and the spiritualists should go to their own scum lists. I would say on the first day such as this the Hunters should stand back from shooting and if their is another hunter out there i wouldnt shoot Stealth, not at this point anyway because the chance of 2 hunters is not exactly low.
I am placing stealth leaning scum right now mind and i dont really have many other reads then that. Potentially NocTiz with his claim that stealths claim is BS followed by the joke vote on you although that places me with little information considering i am also leaning to Stealths claim being scummy and if NocTiz holds the same conclusion i can see why.
What does interest me is Blinksorted and his vote on you MM, it seems like a standard sheep vote as it was done with little extra information given and no real follow up post, it just seems off.
Finally Healta made this very soft claim i think, he said 'Unpack my equipment' now that could just be throwaway line and i may be reading too much into it, but to me thats a very soft claim to holding a active town role although as i said i could be reading too much into it.
The Problem With Claiming Town Hunter Early Is The Unless Shaman Protects The Hunter Claim. It Opens The Wolves To Know Who To Hit With The Strong Man Kill.
speaking of this @Marshmallow Marshall whats your read on my slot so far? this is my first time checking in and catching up.
Ah you are most cordial dear Stealthbomber16, I shall make myself comfortable. While I am only a passing guest of this town, I've also felt a strong presence in this town that has drawn me in. I could lend you my services should it come to that.
I am finding it kinda hard to follow the conversation, but I hope I get used to it. Idk how well I'll do at the actual game later on but will try my best.
About the Virus, I don't think we should be putting too much thought into which action the virus will take. in the end, it will be a lot of wasted posts because whatever strategy we create, the virus will know and just counter. So I think in the end, itl just be a big time-sink.
Also, I dont think stealths claim should be looked into, at least on day 1. Wolves have a strongman kill, so D1 PR hunting should be avoided.
OK. so reading up, so far what im seeing is people PR hunting, and roleplaying.
noctiz susp of MM, i do not see much of a reason from him. My read on MM will come pending his read on my slot. Huey is putting real problem solving in this, and not just on game mechanics which was what his first post was. his next post wast actual reading against people, so 100% I like this slot right now.
@Marshmallow Marshall reminder to answer where you think this slot is right now (mine).
I'd suggest not reading too much into my posts, at least at first, I am not sure how much of your RP is just for flavour or actually giving hints. Though it seems you're taking it more seriously so will try to be careful of what I say in the future^
@aamirus are you a wolf?
Theory disagreement. I am fully aware that some people hate metareading, and I also am fully convinced that these people are leaving a great scum hunting tool just because some people use it the wrong way. Basing a strong read on 100% meta is extremely dangerous. This does not mean meta has to be left unused.
But still, this is NAI because theory.
@Marshmallow Marshall my slot!!!!!!!!!!! your read!
Marshalls theory about meta is correct. I could see a wolf Huey trying to throw "meta trashing" in there as a newer player to the group, not knowing any of our metas as a way to discredit our "meta influences" that we have with each other. Although his long "well thought out posts are fairly towny compared to all the other players posts so far, I will be watching that slot closely.
@Healta best thing you can do is tell us how you feel about certain players. If you think they are full of shit or just agreeing with the consensus don't be afraid to point that out and tell us why. Thats the best way to catch wolves IMO, as the game goes on it gets harder and harder for them to continue to fabricate leads and push twords mislynches. Players who don't contribute any of their own thoughts are often lynched aswell because they appear to be wolfy due to lack of their own content. That's a double edged sword though because townies will often do that due to lack of care or interest.
Basically just give us your thoughts and if I find you to be a villager I will do everything I can to save you.
@Stealthbomber16 i do like the roleplay because it adds an interesting quirk to making a read on a player. Are you just doing that to have fun with yagami? Or do you actually plan on providing content and reads nust via roleplay?
Noctiz and aamirus I have a slight scumlean on right now.
I get that it's only day one and they seem to just be jokingly playing around in thread which is fine. But I am a firm believer in day one lynches, and if nothing really revealing comes about i look to where content is or is not coming from, via players i know are quite capeable of producing it.
I'm not down to lynch players due to low posting although theres a little spot in hell for them next to the girls who practice anal sex. Low posting + good content is fine by me.
Im Really Starting To Think DG Is Scum... Hmmmm... Only Because Normally He/She Would Have At Least Posted Once By Now.... Could Be Busy With Real Life Stuff So Just Speculation At This Point..
-vote Damus_Graves
Yeah I can imagine the quiet ones being picked out first, it's much better to hide in plain sight and hope for the best. Coming from sc2 mafia I don't see how day 1 lynches can ever be useful, it's just a shot in the dark, so I'll abstain from any and all drama on day 1. And afterall, I am the new guy in town, gotta get my bearings.
Back for a while (hopefully).
Yes and no about the night actions. Early on, it's nice to have a strong WIFOM, and maybe a few "non-targets" (such as Stealth). Later on, when we have claims, it's nice to have a plan.
Hunters shooting or not should be decided at EoD, and not right now (plus, the decisions comes to them, ultimately). We aren't far enough into the game to decree such a thing.
Okay
Blinkstorted's vote is actually far less scummy than Noctiz's. That's their way, both blink's and disto's, to read me. It's a reading meta established since... I'd say a year, so there's nothing scummy to me there. Note that I'm not clearing their slot; however, that move is actually towny of them because it shows they're trying to read me. @Blinkstorteddd02 your name is so hard to type that people are going to vote others just because of that xD anyway you got my read.
I noticed that too, he even italicized the word equipment, which makes me think he might be just misleading scum, which is a good thing. Or maybe he's actually TPR. Leaving the WIFOM here, please don't discuss further.
I'm not sure that discussing an open "Spirit Hunter" claim made via roleplay can be called TPR hunting lol. I'm letting WIFOM there, but it needed to be brought up. Plus, it's the only thing we had to discuss at the time.
Don't worry, I know D1 isn't the day for claims wink blinkskater