S-FM III Game thread

[CmG]

It's easy to proof if TheWaaagh is the Investigator or not. He can post out of his night chat. Like i said get the Mole today. Get more investigative Informations for Town and none for the Terrorists.

Easy as that.

I am not Wifoming anything Escaho i just do what i think is the best way to solve the mistery. If other people think claiming to be healed that late in the day seems a good idea. I don't think so especially if you look who claimed what at the Start of the day. That's what makes TheWaaagh so fucking scummy he tried to manipulate the day in his way with his 70%-30% found of Jack Bauer instead of a Mafioso.

Now think you were an investigator in this setup would you do this?

[Ubernox]

I just thought of this in my last post as well. If they DO know who their mole is, TheWaaagh is not framed and is stealing Investigation results as a Terrorist (or you are lying about being Sheriff). If they do not know, possibly framed.

I also wondered if Deathfire may have been the Investigator that checked me, but he would have voted TheWaaagh, not CmG. Which makes me think TheWaaagh is telling the truth.

I'm starting to think that you really are the vigilante, but I have my still have my suspicions. If you feel like trusting anyone, you can trust me when I say that I really am a sheriff. I'm just saying that you could: no one would blame for being sceptical.

[Escaho]

I'm not sure if healing me is a good idea tonight. The Mafia would be fools to risk attacking me with a Lookout in play. It would also result in another day's worth of investigations (at least 2: sheriff, invest) and a Lookout's results. Better to spread the Doctor/Bodyguard love around and hope the BG nets a kill. However, BG/Doctor, if you think you have no better options, I am always available.

I am not saying this to take your heal/protection powers away from others. If anything, save the other town. Ubernox looks like he'll need saving. If TheWaagh dies, then we'll know he's a true Invest.

Also, having played Serial Killer in the last FM has given me some insight into how to post while appearing to be pro-town. Therefore, I recommend investigation results for the following: Kromos, CmG, Goremancer, and Mopin. However, investigate at your own discretion.

Ubernox and TheWaagh: you may want to attempt to coordinate your investigations so you do not target the same people.

[Ubernox]

Waaagh, while a risky lynch, seems like the best target for today. I'm not sure if we should want to skip a lynch and give the terrorists a chance to catch up on their KPN.

Also, remember that the arsonist is still working away behind the scenes. No one knows if they have been doused: neither terrorists or town. I'd want to be careful about being too lenient towards looking for him for too long.

[Mopin]

You can investigate me if you want, though remember I was healed night 1. So if you do really suspect me tomorrow then I guess the doctor could claim, though I should hope that wont be the case.

[Ubernox]

Also, I'd like to ask any lookouts, bodyguards or doctors to put me on their list of possible targets for tonight.

I would hate to draw your services away from someone who could really be Jack Bauer, but I think that ive certainly made me a target for scum tonight.

The arsonist may even try to douse me tonight after I've raised awareness about him, so a lookout could track him down from that. It's all your calls, though.

[CmG]

Mafia please shoot me tonight. This town is retarded.

[Escaho]

On night 4, Jack Bauer joins CTU night chat and the Mole's actions and investigation results from the first 2 nights are revealed.

@Borkbot, what exactly does "the Mole's actions and investigation results" mean? Can the Mole investigate on his own AND receive the Investigator's results? Does the Mole have his own set of actions separate from the rest of those at CTU? Is CTU chat anonymous to all those involved? When people at CTU perform actions, does the Mole only see their actions or both actions AND who performed them?

Do the mafia know who The Mole is?

[Ubernox]

Some great questions there.

[CmG]

Can't you use your own logic? Why do you think they know their mole? This would be retarded. He just would say nothing in the Nightchat until Day 3 and do his shit.

[CmG]

You should ask that TheWaaagh not Borkbot tbh.

[Ubernox]

We just want confirmation, CmG. If they can frame their mole, then TheWaaagh is still a lynch.

[Escaho]

If anything, I'll just take the Lookout tonight. Perhaps throw a BG on Rocshi and a Doctor on Ubernox. Maybe someone on TheWaaagh, though he's questionable at the moment as a framed mole (and it would be hilarious if they killed their own mole). The Lookout will be able to locate the Arsonist and, if I am shot, will be able to determine who the mafia that shot me is. Unless the Lookout thinks that by saying all this the Arsonist will visit Ubernox or someone else. Then, feel free to switch to someone else.

[Escaho]

You should ask that TheWaaagh not Borkbot tbh.

I need clarification of Night chat in CTU to see how the Mole will attempt to navigate his way through the day.

You realize that if Ubernox's investigation results say "TERRORIST" then TheWaaagh is either a) a framed investigator, b) a framed MOLE, or c) a terrorist. It is very possible TheWaaagh WIFOM'd his way into this mess by randomly picking an investigative result and accusing me of it, but I think this actually worked out better for the Town than it did for the Mafia based off of all the information we are getting.

[CmG]

We just want confirmation, CmG. If they can frame their mole, then TheWaaagh is still a lynch.

Why would they frame their own Mole!? This is retarded! If he is framed or not doesn't mean a thing if he is Terrorist or not.

[CmG]

He was framed because he was the most scummy Person Day 1 with Escaho

[Escaho]

@BorkBot: Are auto-immune targets (Godfather, Vigilante, and Arsonist) INFORMED when they are shot/attacked and that their one-time immunity vest is depleted?

[Ubernox]

Herr Tally

TheWaaagh(1): CmG, Ubernox, Rocshi
Deathfire: TheWaaagh
CmG: Deathfire, nanosystem

[Ubernox]

He was framed because he was the most scummy Person Day 1

Which was why I investigated him.

[Escaho]

Why would they frame their own Mole!? This is retarded! If he is framed or not doesn't mean a thing if he is Terrorist or not.

This is why we want to know if the Mafia knows who their mole is. If they do not, they may have framed TheWaaagh and he could be a potential mole that LOOKS like a terrorist to a Sheriff.

If a Sheriff investigates The Mole on night 1 or 2, the mole comes up as NOT SUSPICIOUS. The chances that TheWaaagh WIFOM'd me into revealing by making a false accusation seems pretty far-fetched. Therefore, I'd say he received the Investigative results. Therefore, he is either a) an Investigator or b) the Mole. The ONLY way he could be The Mole is if he was FRAMED. Otherwise, Ubernox's investigation would have resulted in "Not Suspicious."

[Ubernox]

There are 50 minutes left. If ya'll want a lynch, you'd better start voting.

I'll bet the I'm going to die tonight. I would LOVE a lookout of me tonight, while the doc can go on Escaho.

[CmG]

Hmm interesting. Borkbot answer you scummbag wanna know that too!

[Ubernox]

I'll bet he's asleep. At least that would mean that we have a longer day to lunch now.

[Escaho]

There are 50 minutes left. If ya'll want a lynch, you'd better start voting.

I'll bet the I'm going to die tonight. I would LOVE a lookout of me tonight, while the doc can go on Escaho.

I'm not sure I like this plan. I would prefer the Bodyguard on you. The ONLY 2 ways I can die before Night 4 is if I am either:

a) shot tonight and tomorrow night. The mafia will not do this as the town will have way too much Investigative results.

Or b) The arsonist douses me tonight and then incinerates me tomorrow.

Therefore, only the Lookout should visit me tonight. If anyone visits me, you will know they are the Arsonist/Blackmailer/Consort/Framer. Save your heals for Town Power Roles.

[CmG]

Escaho. please shoot Jaczac tonight to proof yourself. He will lurk all game and don'T contribute anything anyway. He is a liability if he is Town. I hope we can all agree with that. I have a nice little list already with all scum rolles(!) in my lw. Have fun killing yourself tonight if you kill me.

CmG out!

[TheWaaagh]

Ubernox if you're going to keep posting the tally, post one with the actual numbers beside it.

TheWaaagh(3): CmG, Ubernox, Rocshi
Deathfire(1): TheWaaagh
CmG(2): Deathfire, nanosystem

If I was a terrorist, as per Ubernox's sheriff report, then I got insanely lucky by giving the two things Escaho could be before he claimed Vigilante. I even said before hand "Are you nervous about your possibilities" because he had to either claim the vigilante and get shot if he was lying, or get hung as a mafioso, because again at the time I thought he was scummy as hell day one and was likely to be mafia.

If I was the mole, and I tipped my hand this early in a suicide bomb attempt to take out the vigilante, what if I was wrong and got the mafioso killed instead? That would be playing pretty strongly against my faction, especially after I disappeared from the CTU night chat and was a confirmed mole. That'd be taking out two mafia at once.

If I was the investigator, and I revealed someone I thought to be mafioso but was actually the vigilante well, hey, that seems like what happened. How about that? Then it would explain why I was confident I could prove myself as not being the mole, while also willing to risk exposing the vigilante in exchange for taking out one of the 3 terrorists (mole excluded because we can figure him out after he disappears).

So no, I'm not a terrorist, which does indeed confirm either that a framer exists or that Ubernox is a terrorist. I assume he's the real sheriff since no one has counter-claimed him but we'll see. I can do nothing other than promise you guys that I'm not the mole, which will obviously not sway you in the slightest, but I mean that's really all I can do. I have my investigation result that I shared, and now I'm being put up to lynch because of it. I'm really disappointed.

[Ubernox]

Save your heals for Town Power Roles.

I'm a PR role.

[Escaho]

I'm a PR role.

I was speaking to the Doctor/BG.

[Deathfire123]

-unvote
-vote Ubernox
-unvote
-vote CmG

[Ubernox]

If I was a terrorist, as per Ubernox's sheriff report, then I got insanely lucky by giving the two things Escaho could be before he claimed Vigilante. I even said before hand "Are you nervous about your possibilities" because he had to either claim the vigilante and get shot if he was lying, or get hung as a mafioso, because again at the time I thought he was scummy as hell day one and was likely to be mafia.

If I was the mole, and I tipped my hand this early in a suicide bomb attempt to take out the vigilante, what if I was wrong and got the mafioso killed instead? That would be playing pretty strongly against my faction, especially after I disappeared from the CTU night chat and was a confirmed mole. That'd be taking out two mafia at once.

If I was the investigator, and I revealed someone I thought to be mafioso but was actually the vigilante well, hey, that seems like what happened. How about that? Then it would explain why I was confident I could prove myself as not being the mole, while also willing to risk exposing the vigilante in exchange for taking out one of the 3 terrorists (mole excluded because we can figure him out after he disappears).

@Waaagh You could have made a informed estimate and taken a calculated risk. Mafioso is the most useless mafia role. Vigilante is biggest asset to town. If he's a mafioso, you solidify your position of trust with (relatively) minimal loss. If he's vigilante: mission accomplished. You might not even get lynched for it.

[Escaho]

-unvote
-vote Ubernox
-unvote
-vote CmG

Deathfire: if you were blocked/bussed/attacked and healed last night, vote me.

So, we have about 20 minutes to sort out what happened here.

Either Deathfire bussed himself with CmG and survived. Or, Deathfire escorted CmG last night and has been waiting for CmG to say so, but he has not. Or, he was attacked AND healed (which would discredit Mopin's heal claim).

Deathfire may have investigated CmG? Two Investigators? Hmm...

[CmG]

[QUOTE=TheWaaagh;75111]Ubernox if you're going to keep posting the tally, post one with the actual numbers beside it.

TheWaaagh(3): CmG, Ubernox, Rocshi
Deathfire(1): TheWaaagh
CmG(2): Deathfire, nanosystem

If I was the mole, and I tipped my hand this early in a suicide bomb attempt to take out the vigilante, what if I was wrong and got the mafioso killed instead? That would be playing pretty strongly against my faction, especially after I disappeared from the CTU night chat and was a confirmed mole. That'd be taking out two mafia at once.

a Mole investigator with the trust of the Town 10x times more worth then a mafioso. You could use your status to lynch another CTU Agent as the Mole pre Day 3. Or Hope The Terrorist shoot one of the CTU Agents. Then you could say he was the Mole.
Or if your identity already slipped in the Night chat and you know that everybody will know that you are the Mole on Day 3. Or oyu know already the other 2 CTU Agents and can get them killed.

If I was the investigator, and I revealed someone I thought to be mafioso but was actually the vigilante well, hey, that seems like what happened. How about that? Then it would explain why I was confident I could prove myself as not being the mole, while also willing to risk exposing the vigilante in exchange for taking out one of the 3 terrorists (mole excluded because we can figure him out after he disappears).

You almost instantly used your investigative results to waste the day into a useless. Is he Mafioso or the Vigilante? Debate crippling another day for your survival until Day 3. The Vigilante is the key figure in this setup for Town. There is no Jailor or another awesome night immune crazy batshit town role. Telling the Arso who his best target for tonight is to help the Terrorists seems like a good Mole use to me.
Especially we don't even know if there s a lookout.

So no, I'm not a terrorist, which does indeed confirm either that a framer exists or that Ubernox is a terrorist. I assume he's the real sheriff since no one has counter-claimed him but we'll see. I can do nothing other than promise you guys that I'm not the mole, which will obviously not sway you in the slightest, but I mean that's really all I can do. I have my investigation result that I shared, and now I'm being put up to lynch because of it. I'm really disappointed.

You still could give us some info from your Night chat. kkthyxbye

[Escaho]

Deathfire has one vote left.

Deathfire, if you escorted CmG last night, please unvote and re-vote him. Otherwise, keep your vote the same.

[CmG]

Doctor, Escort, Bus driver did something right or those replacements were parts of the Terrorist derping around. I was blocked Tonight.

This was my second post today....

[Escaho]

This was my second post today....

Why would he vote you...the ONLY reason I can think of is that Deathfire is Sheriff and his investigative result came up "Terrorist." Otherwise, Mopin has claimed healed versus the mafia attack (which makes little sense, but whatever). Bus driver would not have investigative results, nor the Escort (other than the blockage)...

[CmG]

He would vote me because he didn't read Mopin's claim of getting attacked and healed i guess. Or he claims noob escort who wants to be shot tonight. Dunno. I think he claims escort who blocked me.

[BorkBot]

Do the terrorists know who their mole is, and are they able to use their night actions on him?

I'm still reading the thread, but no. The Terrorists were not given the identity of the Mole. And yes, they are able to use their night actions on him just like on any other non-Terrorist, until he joins them and becomes a Terrorist himself.

[Ubernox]

Borks awake. Day ends in 10 minutes. We need four more votes to lynch Waaagh.

[Escaho]

Borks awake. Day ends in 10 minutes. We need four more votes to lynch Waaagh.

I would much rather see more Investigative results from the two of you tomorrow instead of lynching a possible Investigator.

Lookout on me tonight please (I know there is one. Knowing the characters from the show, there is a 99% probability). Doc/BG on whoever, though I recommend BG on Uber or TheWaaagh. Doc might want to go on Rocshi.

[BorkBot]

Borkbot, what exactly does "the Mole's actions and investigation results" mean? Can the Mole investigate on his own AND receive the Investigator's results? Does the Mole have his own set of actions separate from the rest of those at CTU? Is CTU chat anonymous to all those involved? When people at CTU perform actions, does the Mole only see their actions or both actions AND who performed them?

The mole can perform his own night action and he receives investigation results form both CTU agents (including the chosen targets), but he doesn't see who performed them. CTU chat is anonymous to all those involved. Night actions are submitted in PMs, so the anonymous accounts can lie to each other about the actions they will supposedly take.

[CmG]

The others don't get the results from the other 2?

[BorkBot]

Are auto-immune targets (Godfather, Vigilante, and Arsonist) INFORMED when they are shot/attacked and that their one-time immunity vest is depleted?

Yes, they will be informed. The shooter will also be informed. The bodyguard and arsonist will outright kill their victims (they ignore the vest's immunity).

[BorkBot]

The others don't get the results from the other 2?

No, only the Mole does. The Mole's information is revealed to any remaining CTU members including Jack Bauer in their night chat on night 4 (as is explained in the FAQ).

Day will be extended by 10 minutes because I was late answering your questions. Sorry about that.

[CmG]

So The mole will indeed lay low.

[CmG]

Or not. Hmm we will see tomorrow. Escaho please shoot Jaczac. Do as all a favour and sheet the king of lurkers and no participating in FM's

[CmG]

i meant shoot.

[BorkBot]

HOUR 3 HAS ENDED.

Nobody was lynched today.

The "night" will end at https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...+11%3A59PM+gmt

Night chats are now open. The RP will be posted in a bit.

[BorkBot]

Before I post the RP, I want to point out that the FAQ has been updated with answers to today's questions. Please go and read the updated Q&A at the bottom. Some of the answers given in response to today's questions were further clarified and I added some of my own input to make sure everyone knows how everything works (if they read that FAQ anyway).

Link:
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...and-FAQ-thread

I will write a short RP 4 real now ;)

[BorkBot]

Hour 4 (Night): In The Wake Of Destruction

The following takes place between 7:00 PM and 8:00 PM.

Despite a long exchange of words and many supposed revelations, no clear conclusions were drawn from the discussion that took place after the failed bombing incident. Brian Hastings insisted that they had already caught a suspect, namely Meredith Reed, and that they should follow up on that lead rather than messing around here. Chloe and Jack insisted that Farhad might be the traitor implicated by Aruz, but Omar and his associates dismissed this as being a preposterous idea. The president's brother called CTU out on racism and prejudice, and the argument soon heated up from both sides. Accusations were flung back and forth between various parties and individuals who attended the meeting.

Eventually, when things were getting out of hand, Omar Hassan demanded from his brother that he would retreat from the discussions for now. He would settle this and make sure that CTU's attention was properly directed. He also gave personal assurance that Meredith Reed was not the person they were after. Hastings didn't believe in blind faith that had no basis besides the feelings of a man who was having an affaire with the suspect in question, but he decided to keep that to himself for the moment. The bombing that was meant to assassinate the Kamistani president had failed already, so there was slightly less urgency. And Reed wasn't exactly going to run away either.

Field operations agent Cole Ortiz was never one to engage in a conflict of words; he was a man of action. He quickly grew bored as the discussion dragged on, and then he noticed something; the cop who had been observing the area from a motorcycle was still there, watching them. He excused himself to the people nearby and approached the agent on the motorcycle, greeting him. The cop had no intention of starting a friendly discussion and rode off. He never made it far, however. Mike Farmer failed to take note of some debris as he fled. He slipped and fell, scraping his jacket and clothes open on the jagged concrete. That wasn't enough to stop the cop's escape; he got up immediately and ran. Agent Ortiz pursued him, running as fast as he could and pulling his weapon, calling out for the suspect to freeze. Mike did not respond, and instead dashed away into an alley to the side and out of view.

Cole was on his tail for several more minutes, but the fugitive rogue cop - if he was a cop at all - was persistent and eventually managed to shake him off. Cole damned himself for not shooting when he had the chance. They still had nothing.

[BorkBot]

Hour 5 (Day): A Shot In The Dark

The following takes place between 8:00 PM and 9:00 PM.

With firm steps, Cole walked back through the alley. The night sky had veiled his surroundings in darkness by now, and there was little in terms of street lighting. Agent Ortiz didn't think about putting his firearm away here and now, for he was well aware that he wasn't out of the woods yet.

Using his free hand, he reached for his microphone and held it in front of him, for it had gotten loose while he was running. "This is Agent Ortiz. Lost sight of suspect, I'm on my way back."

Then he heard a rustle. It appeared to come from one of the buildings in front of him, but no lights were on inside.

"Who's there?" he called out in a commanding voice, convincing himself that he was in control. He let go of the microphone to hold his pistol in both hands to steady his grip. When no response came, he took a few quick steps until he was with his side against the wall on the same side of the street as the building where the noise came from. Then he slowly proceeded towards the open doorway, ducking beneath the windows when necessary.

"Hello?" he tried again. And this time, there came a reply. A man stepped out of the shadows on the opposite end of the street and opened fire. The first shot missed. The second one struck true in the chest, but Cole was wearing a vest, so he wasn't done for yet. With two strides he was inside. His attacker fired a third shot. Then another four in quick succession, but they all missed their target. This guy wasn't using his bullets sparingly, to say the least. He counted them all to fourteen and then feigned a movement to come out of his hiding place. One more shot grazed the doorpost he was hiding behind and then nothing... Reloading? Cole Ortiz took this opportunity to leave his cover and was ready to return fire, when suddenly he heard another loud bang. This time from behind him. From inside.

It was the last thing he'd ever hear.

Roles List:
Terrorist Leader
Hidden Terrorist PR *
Hidden Terrorist PR *
The President
Vigilante (Jack Bauer)
Hidden Civilian PR **
Hidden Civilian PR **
Hidden Civilian PR **
Hidden CTU Agent ***
Hidden CTU Agent ***
Hidden CTU Mole ***
Arsonist

* Hidden Terrorist PR: Blackmailer, Consort, Framer, Janitor, Mafioso
** Hidden Civilian PR: Bus Driver, Coroner, Doctor, Escort, Sheriff
*** Hidden CTU Agent: Detective, Investigator, Lookout
*** Hidden CTU Mole: Detective, Investigator, Lookout

Graveyard:
( Victor Aruz ) - Shot by a sniper
( Nameless Cop ) - Killed in the chaos that ensued after a failed bombing
( Bodyguard (Cole Ortiz) Mopin ) - Shot in the back of his head in a dark alley

Player List:
Goremancer
McPwnage
Escaho
Kromos
CmG
Deathfire123
nanosystem
TheWaaagh
GameFreak
Rocshi
Ubernox
jaczac

7 votes are required to lynch.

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