Day 3 - The Massacre

[Forum Mafia GM]

It was not long after the killing of Gavril that more bloodshed took place. As evening set in, the crowd disbanded, disheartened at the day’s failure. Only a few short minutes later, some loud yelling in a strange foreign language was heard in a distant alley, followed by several gunshots. Those that were courageous enough ran quickly to the scene to find Galina and Juri lying in a shared puddle of blood, a bullet through each of their heads. They were declared dead at the scene. Their houses were then searched for any possible ties to crime. In Galina’s house, they found many drawers filled with hundreds of folders containing profiles of various citizens of Petrograd. They also found a single sheet of paper lying on the table, blank but for the words “LAST WILL” at the top. Meanwhile, at Juri’s house, nothing was found but the attire and tools of an average factory worker, not even a last will of any sort.

Later in the night, yet more commotion was heard. At first nothing more than some light conversation, it quickly grew into a full-blown riot. The sound of glass shattering rang through the night, and some loud screams could be heard. The police promptly responded, and as quickly as it had started, the riot was over. The next morning, the devastation was clear. Broken glass lay everywhere, and not a single window was left unshattered. One shop was hit particularly hard, with the walls crumbling and all the items in the shop shattered on the floor. In the middle of all the wreckage lay the mangled body of Jaroslav, brutally killed while trying to defend his shop. A blood-covered note, which seemed to be quickly scrawled, was found in his hand, that read:

Our message to you comes in parts. Read every word carefully, as it shall change the way we play the game entirely.

Every one of you has been assigned a code. You may not have yet received your code, but you will if you manage to survive. Show us your worth and we shall reciprocate.

Your code is special. Write it down and save it. You will use it to communicate with us for the remainder of the game.

Germans, we request a temporary alliance. We know a majority of your team and if you do not comply with our peaceful offer of truce, then we will be forced to reveal your team to the Russians. We will not kill you as long as you do not kill us. Our primary objective is to eradicate the Power Roles, as should be your own. If you begin assassinating peasants, we will look upon the act as a declaration of war and will respond in kind. You have been forewarned.

In return for your service, we will offer you the gift of Tsar Nicholas II's dead body in exactly two days following this one.

Peasants, you are the only hope of revolution. We need you. If you have not yet received a code, fear not. All good things come to those who wait. Firstly, you must prove your worth. Only the virtuous and the willing are worthy of the Bolshevik ranks. Prove yourself and we shall bow down in your presence. The Russians are fools; an assortment of bumbling drones whom unjustly lynch the first man they find on the street. We will save the Motherland. We must save the Motherland. Join us.

Anarchist, we know you want us dead. We know it well. We know of your desire to lead our people to glory and although we may not agree fully, we understand you. We understand you. We know some of your enemies. We know who they are, where they are, what they are. We are willing to provide this information. We will kill Nicholas II for you and the Germans.

We will give our own lives up so that you can become our ally. Do not search for us or citizens or you will be declaring war upon us. If you wish to agree to a temporary alliance, display your allegiance by killing confirmed town. We do not back down on our word. We will reciprocate your sacrifice.

Dissidents, we do not fear you. We do not hate you. We do not despise you.

We pity you. You are dogs. Vile, insipid creatures that helplessly grovel when they require food. Your meals shall no longer arrive. We will no longer feed your insatiable appetite for ignorance.

Know this.
1. Any act, word, phrase, or sentence that threatens any of the Bolsheviks will be interpreted as a declaration of war against us. You will be exterminated.

2. Any persons whom claim Peasant through the use of their code but are not actually Peasants will be interpreted as enemies of the state. If you are one of these persons, it would be in your best interest to remain quiet about the code you have received.

Furthermore, any Peasants whom take up arms against our revolution will be deemed a threat to us and eradicated promptly.

It would be most unwise not to heed our warnings.



In his pocket, a slip of paper was found with the following words on it:

“I'm dead? I half expected this, though I must say I'm also half surprised. I did not expect scum to kill me for so obviously and shamelessly taunting them, but then again, that could have been expected. I did say I had revealing evidence for Lenin after all. So if anything, I probably got killed by the Germans or Anarchist.

The catch is, of course, I'm only a peasant. I admit, my playstyle this time around was pretty extreme, but frankly, I really despised the citizens last FM who did not do anything and gave a new meaning to “lurking.” I was hoping to lure a kill away from a town PR, which, if you’re reading this now, I guess I succeeded.

Having no night actions, I could not have solid evidence other than this. Someone claiming Lenin and someone else claiming Anarchist repped me. It was interesting to note, both the reps were not positive (one was negative actually). In other words, if we are to believe these two claims, both of them have special status on their original forum accounts. The "Lenin" sent his rep at around 5AM GMT while the "Anarchist" sent his at 8AM GMT. If any of you analyzers out there want to attempt linking these people together, by all means, please do so.

With that, I bid you all adieu. I ask that the peasants actually make use of themselves this FM instead of as they did last FM. And for those peasants who are trying to get recruited, shame on you! I hope you die a violent death.

P.S. I've gotten some really intriguing guesses at my real identity via rep. Unfortunately, my last word is, to anyone who addressed me by a forum name, you're wrong.”
This latest killing in particular worried the Tsar. He knew now that the Bolsheviks’ numbers were rising, and that they had now begun to resort to violence. The Tsar realized that he had to get rid of these criminals as soon as possible, or risk losing his own life.

Yet another body was found that morning, dumped in the fountain in the town center. The body of Matvei was already blue from the lack of oxygen, and was beginning to become bloated due to the water. Carved in his back, they found the strange symbol they had seen before: an A surrounded by a circle. They also noticed a note posted to the fountain, apparently written in Matvei’s blood:

“Лжецы будут наказаны
”

Searching his house, they discovered nothing but a small farm and some tools, as well as a note hidden under one of his boots, that said nothing but:

“I am TheJackofSpades”

Furthermore, another strange occurrence was noted. The drunkard that used to sit in the streets at night, doing nothing but singing and taking big gulps from a bottle of vodka, had disappeared. They also noticed that several academic books were missing from the library. Although they did not know for sure, they suspected that the death of the teacher had traumatized the drunkard so much that he decided to clean up his act and follow in his footsteps, becoming a teacher himself.

Gavril's Last will had been released:

"You guys are fucking retarded. Looks like I'm lionel 2 games in a row. Don't say I didn't warn you.
Town had better take a good look at the Matvai, and everyone else who accused me. There is no way that the town is this stupid; there was scum behind this lynch.


Enjoy your wasted lynch. You've killed your own doctor. Well played, scum.


PS. Viteslav is a moron of the highest calibre!"

General
Spotter
Sapper
Medic
Hidden German
Hidden German
Hidden German
Hidden German

Detective
Propagandist
Nicholas II
Gunsmith
Journalist

Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power

Peasant/Proletariat
Peasant/Proletariat
Peasant
Peasant
Peasant
Peasant

Hidden any
Hidden any
Hidden any
Hidden any

Hidden any** - can be peasant, town power or a neutral role.

Anarchist

Lenin
Stalin


Mass Grave

Oleg (Teacher) - Shot by a bolt-action Mauser outside the school.
Maksim (Peasant) - Stabbed in a hurry with a kitchen knife and left to bleed out. (Anarchist)
Matvei (Peasant) - Choked to death (Anarchist)
Juri (Peasant) and Galina (Investigator) - Shot with a German military rifle
Jaroslav (Peasant) - Beaten to death by an angry Peasant crowd
Gavril (Doctor) - Shot on the spot by the Royal Guard


The day will end:
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Jan18%2C+2012+0AM+GMT

[Nikifor]

Nikifor is capable of easily claiming first post.

[Vasili]

Well, at least the dead ones are citizens who played their roles well and absorbed some of the KPN. The question is, where do we go from here? Will Alexei come forth with actual information and prove that he may not be scum?

[Georgi]

Peasants are dropping like flies. The Bolsheviks aren't going to have anybody to recruit if nothing changes within another couple nights.

The only hope town has is to lynch, jail, and have anarchist and possibly Bolshevik assistance in taking out the large number of Germans. It is quickly reaching the point where they outnumber ordinary citizens.

I thought that Alexei was to be executed last night. Since he apparently was not, do we have any leads to go by? Alexei defended the doctor who we carelessly lynched at the claim of a peasant, but he has been far from honest.

[Newton]

Wow, only town deaths so far. Not looking good.

[Tatyana]

Ubiquitous, Tampered, Indiscriminate, Bunchie, Tarsonis, Kaepora, Inconspicuous...

Disguiser checks FTW (I will redesign mine today). Yes Leo, that was me that repped you...

[Yakov]

Wow i have seriously problems to read this text wall. Also shouldn't it be something like peasant/proletariat x2?

The Mass Grave is way too green-ish.

[Tatyana]

OK, now for other business:
1) I TOTALLY CALLED IT WITH MATVEI! ONLY JACK COULD PULL THAT CRAP AND STILL BE TOWN! lol
2) I roleblocked Matvei last night, but I was roleblocked instead. For all we know, he could've still disguised if he was a disguiser... I am suspicious.
3) Evgheni, that first post instantly makes me suspicious of you...

[Newton]

OK, now for other business:
1) I TOTALLY CALLED IT WITH MATVEI! ONLY JACK COULD PULL THAT CRAP AND STILL BE TOWN! lol
2) I roleblocked Matvei last night, but I was roleblocked instead. For all we know, he could've still disguised if he was a disguiser... I am suspicious.
3) Evgheni, that first post instantly makes me suspicious of you...

I have been lurking.


It sucks being a useless role.

When I heard about the re-roll I was happy...until I got the same role.


I will try to help the town now.

[Newton]

I think that Yakov is definitely a german.

[Tatyana]

Oh wait nevermind about Matvei: anarchist death :P

[Newton]

-vote Yakov

[Georgi]

Could we get some more information before lynching? The last thing we need is to help along the defeat of town even faster.

[Tatyana]

I also find the Bolshevik's death note about the anarchist ironic since he's killed 2 peasants

[Vasili]

Could we get some more information before lynching? The last thing we need is to help along the defeat of town even faster.

Agreed. Alexei should present whatever information he has acquired.

[Georgi]

As Investigator or as Detective?

I would be more interested in hearing what his actual story is and see if it checks out with something others can confirm. Otherwise its just more lies.

[Fyodor]

Did anyone watch that football game last night? The one with the football and the people going "woooooooo"

Also, I'll be the first to say that as soon as I got that rep message tatyana I thought for sure the mafia sent it and were planning on disguising as you. If there was a dead actress I was gonna come after you, you're safe for now ;)

I'll wait to see if any information arises from some notables before revealing any information that I may or may not have.

I personally don't buy Alexei's 19 lies from yesterday, but I'll keep an open ear and listen to what she has to say today.

[Tatyana]

I plan on changing my habits so that I send the check at daytime and then use the common word to authenticate the rep... Different people, different words, etc.

[Moisey]

Two things really fast here.

1) AlEXEI IS STILL ALIVE! If the Germans wanted us to waste a lynch, they would have killed Alexei. However Alexei remains alive.
2) Yakov I suspected of being evil since Day 1 with that entire "he knowing players name before the player list was announced."

These two are what I believe to be our biggest threats at the moment, unless new evidence comes through. Until then, I say we go with the best bet, and that's the lynch of Yakov.

-Vote Yakov

In Russia, water drinks you!

[Georgi]

Alexei being alive only means that the jailor that everybody wanted to execute him did not.

Germans wouldn't have wasted an attack on somebody they thought was likely to be jailed, so saying they would have attacked him instead of anybody else is pointless.

Some more evidence against Yakov should be needed before voting to lynch him. I wouldn't put it past Alexei being German and him having allies to redirect aggression now. Lets see how it goes.

[Dimitri]

Yakov's not a suspect for knowing that name, for if my analysis is correct then I believe that he is CmG and that he spotted Svetlana's post in the wrong thread at around the same time I did. I admit to be one of the m-fm readers. He is indeed a German, but if he is also a German in this game remains to be seen.

On the previous day, Galina instructed Igor to be dealt with as he had claimed to be a German on the first day. Since Galina was discovered to be an investigator upon death, I suggest that we deal with him first.

Vote Igor

[Tatyana]

I say we kill Evgheni for claiming peasant randomly

I don't find the evidence against Svetlana and Yakov to be that great. The Igor thing, however, is worth looking into at the very least. Also, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE leave last wills kthxbai

[Igor]

im shooting dimitri tonight

[Igor]

your dead

[Dimitri]

im shooting dimitri tonight

Excuse me as I shall now cower in fear and retreat to my secret laboratory for the remainder of the day.

[Tatyana]

your dead

We have entered a paradox: he claimed German, yet he is in direct defiance of the Grammar Nazi!

Judging by the activity levels, I highly suggest we get going on a lynch soon. If anyone has information, speak now or forever screw us over...

[Nikita]

Nikifor is capable of easily claiming first post.

I am glad you are safe dear brother. I am also alive and well for the moment, but the fact that no scum has died is discomforting indeed.

[Fyodor]

Furthermore, another strange occurrence was noted. The drunkard that used to sit in the streets at night, doing nothing but singing and taking big gulps from a bottle of vodka, had disappeared. They also noticed that several academic books were missing from the library. Although they did not know for sure, they suspected that the death of the teacher had traumatized the drunkard so much that he decided to clean up his act and follow in his footsteps, becoming a teacher himself.

This may get lost in the sea of RP so I felt like I should make it clear that the Drunkard chose Teacher.

Also

. Also, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE leave last wills kthxbai

the table, blank but for the words “LAST WILL” at the top.

This to me seems like the RP's way of telling us that Galina had a will, but that she either deleted it or someone forged her will to just say "LAST WILL"

Can you just flat out delete a will as a forger? Follow up: If a forger were to delete a last will how would you address it in the RP?

That would uncover one of the hidden mafia power roles if it's true.

I agree with Dimitri, but I'm withholding my vote until Alexei pops in. No reason to jump the gun. Speaking of which why did no one with a gun shoot igor to save us from wasting a lynch on him? If you shot him and he did not die then he was probably healed by the medic in which case we need to lynch him in order to kill him. That would almost 100% prove that he is mafia.

[Viktoria]

Instantly suspicious of Evgheni .... -.-

[Newton]

Instantly suspicious of Evgheni .... -.-

Do you honestly think I give a fuck? Who the fuck are you?

No one gives a single fuck what you think. I know what I am. I don't care if you are suspicious of me.

Do what you want. Just one thing, go fuck yourself you stupid fag.

[Svetlana]

Do you honestly think I give a fuck? Who the fuck are you?

No one gives a single fuck what you think. I know what I am. I don't care if you are suspicious of me.

Do what you want. Just one thing, go fuck yourself you stupid fag.

Talk about a disproportionate response.

[Georgi]

I'm just going to say right now that Alexei needs to be lynched. Reasons are as follows:

1. Claimed investigator, claimed to investigate somebody.
2. Claimed detective instead.
3. Claimed he was doctored.
4. Claimed he was jailed instead, which also goes against him investigating.
5. He wasn't jailed last night even when town was in support of it, so I don't have high hopes for him being executed other than by a lynch.

He has been lying through his teeth. Though he is not the only person being suspicious, he is by far the most likely to be scum.

Vote Alexei

Town is being slaughtered, our only hope is that our enemies work together in destroying those not working for the town. Should this not happen, a lynch and execution of those that are guilty will not be enough I fear. The Germans will have won. Alexei is the best choice to lynch. If you deny this, you have either not seen how much he has lied or are a scum just as he almost certainly is.

This assumes there isn't evidence that I am unaware of (meaning anything posted in day chats so far).

[Svetlana]

5. He wasn't jailed last night even when town was in support of it, so I don't have high hopes for him being executed other than by a lynch.

Probably because the jailor knows that following public direction is dumb. Much the same way that directing PRs is dumb, let alone expecting a PR to follow public direction.

[Fyodor]

No one gives a single fuck what you think.

I give more fucks about what she thinks than what some shady ass lurker thinks.

I know what I am.

Gratz, I know what I am too, but that doesn't mean everyone automatically thinks I'm clean. This is Mafia, not candyland.

Do what you want. Just one thing, go fuck yourself you stupid fag.

You're getting extremely defensive about a light handed comment about a pointless post you made.

@Georgi While I'm extremely open a lynch on Alexei, I want to wait to see if anyone has information on what happened with Igor last night. Alexei can be dealt with with the gun received last night where as the person with the gun last night may be in the mafia with igor/bolsheviks with igor. I can't wrap my head around why no one would use a gun last night unless they attacked a jailed person, which I'm fairly confident they didn't.

I'd also like to point out that journalist went AWOL...Looks like someone found a new team to root for.

So until I know what happened with the gunsmith gun I won't be providing any input on a lynch.

[Georgi]

Probably because the jailor knows that following public direction is dumb. Much the same way that directing PRs is dumb, let alone expecting a PR to follow public direction.

Alexei implicated himself through multiple layers of deception, something our last public lynch did not do in the slightest. The Jailor executing somebody with as many major lies as were given by Alexei, in addition to slightly threatening/questioning Rep messages, is almost certainly a good idea. A far better idea than the previous lynching was, at the very least.

Following public direction may have been dumb. Following the opinions of those that have shown proof coming from the very words of the accused that they are not to be trusted in the slightest, to the degree of execution being necessary, is not.

[Svetlana]

Alexei implicated himself through multiple layers of deception, something our last public lynch did not do in the slightest. The Jailor executing somebody with as many major lies as were given by Alexei, in addition to slightly threatening/questioning Rep messages, is almost certainly a good idea. A far better idea than the previous lynching was, at the very least.

Following public direction may have been dumb. Following the opinions of those that have shown proof coming from the very words of the accused that they are not to be trusted in the slightest, to the degree of execution being necessary, is not.

If you want or expect a PR to do something, the last thing you should do is suggest it publicly.
Or
If you don't want a PR to do something, you publicly explain why it is a good idea for them to do it. Then you suggest that the guilt or innocence of an individual hangs on that PRs action, as was done yesterday.

[Sergei]

So much death, so much green.

I agree that Alexei probaly needs to die, and town is fairly well messed up, but let's not lose our heads just yet. If no one comes out with hard evidense, then we should lynch Alexei.

[Fyodor]

If you want or expect a PR to do something, the last thing you should do is suggest it publicly.
Or
If you don't want a PR to do something, you publicly explain why it is a good idea for them to do it. Then you suggest that the guilt or innocence of an individual hangs on that PRs action, as was done yesterday.

If I had a gun and I said
"The person with the gun needs to shoot X and the jailor needs to jail Y"

If the Jailor was like "Ooohhh I'mma jail X instead" then we lose our gun shot. I'm not saying I had the gun last night, but listening to actions like that is organizing thought. You have to throw in some WIFOM, but just flat out not shooting the gun at all is a waste. I really hope the person who died N1 is the person who got the gun. Even if a bad guy got the gun some random citizen would be shot just to lower the amount of people and to claim "Oh I thought he was bad" type of thing.

There is no black and white in Mafia and trying to say that there is only 1 one to go about things is stupid and untrue.

@Sergei

What's your role Sergei?

[Georgi]

So what you're saying is that the Jailor, who is part of the town, should not be told publicly (the only way to tell an unrevealed jailor) who to execute when there are FAR more reasons to do so to Alexei than to the Lynched doctor?

Alexei: "Hi everyone. Alexei here. I did find out some important information last night and I will reveal it to you when I get home from school. I don't have much time atm, sorry."

Alexei: "Ok I lied I'm not the inves. I was just trying to get some information that's all."

Alexei: "Georgi - Little input. Half-hearted trolling, scummy."

This caught my eye, since it came after me not giving him my role (which he apparently asked others for) via repmessage questions.

Alexei: "I was attacked and healed. I don't know whether the bolsheviks are mafia attacked me. We have 2 kills missing, people can cc me if they want."

This shows that he was visited by doctor and knows the fact, or claims that much.

Alexei: "If you want to know, I was jailed last night. I made the notes then because I don't usually make notes. The jailor saved me from the attack, I don't know if I was healed."

This quote has him claiming he was jailed, covering for him not having any information, but also contradicts entirely that he was doctored.

Alexei: "Why would I want to reveal that I was jailed? It was better to say I was healed so that scum no less. Thanks to Fyodor, I claim detective."

This last quote was long after claiming invest.

These quotes were all posted by me before in the last day chat. He also is on the record of saying he would give evidence before-hand, and sent mass rep messages to people asking them for their roles. The Jailor was asked to execute him because of a possibility of him being martyr or similar, that was one of the main reasons why we even lynched the doctor instead of him (which was a big mistake, obviously).

Now, the Jailor shouldn't go with public opinion alone. But deception to this degree should be visible to anybody with a brain. All I'm doing is pointing it out to those that may not have noticed it over the other meaningless shit that's going on. We've had a doctor lynched, and every other death is town so far. Anybody who defends Alexei at this point is a master troll. If any of you have anywhere near as much evidence against Alexei as I've pointed out that makes you think anybody else should be lynched, please let me know. We went on a so-called "Sheriff" claim to lynch our doctor, but one claim from one person (that we now know was lying) is not on this level of evidence. Not at all.

[Sergei]

@Fyodor
Why do you ask?

[Fyodor]

@Fyodor
Why do you ask?

Because you've contributed jack shit, aren't trying to bite the bullet as a citizen, and are only popping in for short bursts of time to say who you want to vote for even if that person was cleaned by another role claim. In fact everyone who voted after Tatyana's claim last night should be killed, but that's just my opinion. You stood out the most because not only did you vote for Gavril, but you fucking read what tatyana wrote and still did it.

There's something going on with you and I don't like it.

[Svetlana]

If I had a gun and I said
"The person with the gun needs to shoot X and the jailor needs to jail Y"

If the Jailor was like "Ooohhh I'mma jail X instead" then we lose our gun shot. I'm not saying I had the gun last night, but listening to actions like that is organizing thought. You have to throw in some WIFOM, but just flat out not shooting the gun at all is a waste. I really hope the person who died N1 is the person who got the gun. Even if a bad guy got the gun some random citizen would be shot just to lower the amount of people and to claim "Oh I thought he was bad" type of thing.

There is no black and white in Mafia and trying to say that there is only 1 one to go about things is stupid and untrue.

I'm sorry but what the fuck kind of scenario is that? All you've done is show that you're convinced the jailer is a dumbass. Why would he jail someone that was ordered to be shot by a vigi or whatever? There's 30+ people to choose from, and you assume that the jailer is going to say, "Right, I shouldn't follow that direction, so I'll choose the other obvious target being directed to out of the 28 others I could lock up." How does that make sense?

Either he's dumb enough to jail the directed target, preventing him from getting so far as to jail the other directed target. Or he's smart enough to NOT follow blatant direction and pick someone he's less likely to get fucked out of visiting.

I never said anything was black and white. How you get that, I can't conceive. I'm saying that it's ignorant to believe that the jailer was honestly going to jail Alexei last night when there was such a consesus that he should. Are you trying to get the jailer fucked?

I

[Georgi]

That claim is one to be followed up on. I still hold that Alexei is the more important person to lynch (if he's German, that would prevent their doctor from healing him, and he apparently isn't going to be jailed).

We've got a lot of suspicious characters here. Town really doesn't have much hope of winning unless our enemies manage to damage eachother (something they've miraculously avoided so far, to the point of every single death being a town). We also don't have a chance of winning if we don't pick our lynchings and executions (jailor, I'm looking at you) wisely.

Please re-post exactly what evidence is before you try to get support for somebody to be lynched or executed. Most people don't know how to read, apparently, and may need reminders.

[Svetlana]

So what you're saying is that the Jailor, who is part of the town, should not be told publicly (the only way to tell an unrevealed jailor) who to execute when there are FAR more reasons to do so to Alexei than to the Lynched doctor?

Alexei: "Hi everyone. Alexei here. I did find out some important information last night and I will reveal it to you when I get home from school. I don't have much time atm, sorry."

Alexei: "Ok I lied I'm not the inves. I was just trying to get some information that's all."

Alexei: "Georgi - Little input. Half-hearted trolling, scummy."

This caught my eye, since it came after me not giving him my role (which he apparently asked others for) via repmessage questions.

Alexei: "I was attacked and healed. I don't know whether the bolsheviks are mafia attacked me. We have 2 kills missing, people can cc me if they want."

This shows that he was visited by doctor and knows the fact, or claims that much.

Alexei: "If you want to know, I was jailed last night. I made the notes then because I don't usually make notes. The jailor saved me from the attack, I don't know if I was healed."

This quote has him claiming he was jailed, covering for him not having any information, but also contradicts entirely that he was doctored.

Alexei: "Why would I want to reveal that I was jailed? It was better to say I was healed so that scum no less. Thanks to Fyodor, I claim detective."

This last quote was long after claiming invest.

These quotes were all posted by me before in the last day chat. He also is on the record of saying he would give evidence before-hand, and sent mass rep messages to people asking them for their roles. The Jailor was asked to execute him because of a possibility of him being martyr or similar, that was one of the main reasons why we even lynched the doctor instead of him (which was a big mistake, obviously).

Now, the Jailor shouldn't go with public opinion alone. But deception to this degree should be visible to anybody with a brain. All I'm doing is pointing it out to those that may not have noticed it over the other meaningless shit that's going on. We've had a doctor lynched, and every other death is town so far. Anybody who defends Alexei at this point is a master troll. If any of you have anywhere near as much evidence against Alexei as I've pointed out that makes you think anybody else should be lynched, please let me know. We went on a so-called "Sheriff" claim to lynch our doctor, but one claim from one person (that we now know was lying) is not on this level of evidence. Not at all.

I'm not saying we shouldn't kill Alexei. I'm simply saying that expecting the jailer to have done it last night is ignorant. I didn't expect it, and look, I'm not surprised.

[Sergei]

Because you've contributed jack shit, aren't trying to bite the bullet as a citizen, and are only popping in for short bursts of time to say who you want to vote for even if that person was cleaned by another role claim. In fact everyone who voted after Tatyana's claim last night should be killed, but that's just my opinion. You stood out the most because not only did you vote for Gavril, but you fucking read what tatyana wrote and still did it.

There's something going on with you and I don't like it.

I never voted for Gavril.

[Georgi]

Svetlana,

I shouldn't have expected it either, but if he is German (a very strong possibility) then that is one of two ways to avoid him surviving. The German doctor(s?) will be on his ass if he is German, and Jailor executions get around this, as well as avoid him getting a win as Martyr (which I doubt he is, but some others thought otherwise).

If somebody attempts to shoot him I don't think he is going to die, is my only real point.

As we know that the Jailor is either being careful enough to not think the evidence against Alexei is enough to kill OR is just trolling, we should try to get him lynched. Although the number of lynch votes we needed before was a bit absurd and we're down quite a few more town since then (not that town, including myself, were hesitant in killing the doctor...something I should have looked into more before supporting).

[Fyodor]

If you wish to join us, your code word is 'clock'. You already know the possible implications of your decision.

Fuck you FalseTruth. I know it's you sending the messages.


@Svet

You said:

If you want or expect a PR to do something, the last thing you should do is suggest it publicly.

Sure the Jailor might not jail the gun target, but hey look I got a gun and "Oh I'm not gonna follow what he says either" Boom same thing happens because both randomly use their ability.

You said that public direction is a bad idea and I'm saying that, in some cases, it can be a good idea.

We also said that the Jailor should only jail and execute Alexei if he was lying about being jailed. All this tells us is that Alexei was not jailed and the Jailor has enough information about alexei to know about his role and trust him.

[Svetlana]

We also said that the Jailor should only jail and execute Alexei if he was lying about being jailed. All this tells us is that Alexei was not jailed and the Jailor has enough information about alexei to know about his role and trust him.

You cannot be serious...

[Svetlana]

Svetlana,

I shouldn't have expected it either, but if he is German (a very strong possibility) then that is one of two ways to avoid him surviving. The German doctor(s?) will be on his ass if he is German, and Jailor executions get around this, as well as avoid him getting a win as Martyr (which I doubt he is, but some others thought otherwise).

If somebody attempts to shoot him I don't think he is going to die, is my only real point.

As we know that the Jailor is either being careful enough to not think the evidence against Alexei is enough to kill OR is just trolling, we should try to get him lynched. Although the number of lynch votes we needed before was a bit absurd and we're down quite a few more town since then (not that town, including myself, were hesitant in killing the doctor...something I should have looked into more before supporting).

The martyr thing is a good point.

But both you and Fyodor are assuming that the jailer believes Alexei is clean, or at least probably clean. This is an assumption based on a fallacy.

I agree, Alexei should die one way or the other. To prove that point
-Vote Alexei

I simply disagree with you and Fyodor's points about the jailer.

[Fyodor]

Alexei was jailed*

My bad, the jailor chats between Alexei were true and that's why the Jailor didn't go after Alexei.