S-FM: Rise of the Jester King (10P)

[Mike]

I'll begin with some questions for clarification.

Can the ORIGINAL Jester King convert on N1?

What's the lynch type? (Majority, plurality, both, mandatory lynch or not)

I'd add "Play to your win condition at all times." to the rules.

Is playing in order to get converted, therefore turning the game into a confusing WIFOM fest, considered playing against your wincondition, by your setup's ideal?


Now, onto the setup's nature. It is experimental style (only one scum, which is a cultist, who has a "transfer vest" on D1, who transforms people into jesters) for sure.
The question here is : Is this setup playable, and is it enjoyable?
Being converted to a Jester is really sad. You become a Lover AND a Jester. Plus, if your King dies, you are inevitably penalized by your King's misplays, which obviously sucks. This is the case with all Lovers, but THREE lovers on the same person is a bit much.
The Jester King himself is also very difficult to play as, since only ONE bad jester can ruin your play, without being able to do anything about it.

In its current state, I do not consider this setup balanced, given the number of strong instability and sudden/player-undeserved difficulty elements.

Ok the night 1 the is a special concert. Let me explaine it. When roles are given out before the game starts.the jk will pick a person playing. To proxy. Now if the JK gets lynched D1 the proxy will become JK that night. No jester converted n1. Now if the proxy is lynch they are lynched as town. Wins with town only. No jester converted N1. Now if a VT is lynched day 1. The proxy will become a jester N1. Now that convert counts as one of the 3 converts. Also if the proxy becomes the new JK. They count as one of the 3 max converts. The rest of the nights. The jk just picks who is converted. With a Max if 3 converts.

[Mike]

Ok the night 1 the is a special concert. Let me explaine it. When roles are given out before the game starts.the jk will pick a person playing. To proxy. Now if the JK gets lynched D1 the proxy will become JK that night. No jester converted n1. Now if the proxy is lynch they are lynched as town. Wins with town only. No jester converted N1. Now if a VT is lynched day 1. The proxy will become a jester N1. Now that convert counts as one of the 3 converts. Also if the proxy becomes the new JK. They count as one of the 3 max converts. The rest of the nights. The jk just picks who is converted. With a Max if 3 converts.

Mandatory lynch every night.

Also yes play to your win con. If a Player is playing to get turned into a jester and throwing for town will end in a mod kill. This setup is made to be a fun setup to read people not mechanics. The goal is for town to kill jk not become a jester. Any mod kill will counted as a loss. And if you get converted into jester don’t be mad. If you would be DONT PLAY. This is a game for skill.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

this looks like Lady Gaga all over again

It is very similar, yes. Lady Gaga was hard for scum; this is even harder, and includes the dangerous Jester mechanic in a game where you must lynch a specific scum.

The main issue with this setup is that it does not reward scum hunting. On D1, JK is literally invulnerable, because of proxy. Although this gives a chance to scum, it also makes D1 scum hunting pretty bad, especially given the mandatory lynch (Which should be added in the setup, btw).
Plus, the Jester role is a dangerous one because obvious Jesters do not get lynched, and people acting normally don't either, OR get lynched for the wrong reasons. It means that good Jesters will act mildly scummy on purpose. And then comes in the WIFOM plays, which isn't scum hunting but rather guessing game, since intent is extremely hard to determine if a player, for example, is lurking while keeping up with the 5 posts/day.

TL;DR: A setup with a target to lynch, and tons of jesters, PLUS a cult mechanic (which messes with reads and scum hunting even more), on the top of a Multi-Lover mechanic, is extremely unstable, and does not reward scum hunting or reading players.

Ok the night 1 the is a special concert. Let me explaine it. When roles are given out before the game starts.the jk will pick a person playing. To proxy. Now if the JK gets lynched D1 the proxy will become JK that night. No jester converted n1. Now if the proxy is lynch they are lynched as town. Wins with town only. No jester converted N1. Now if a VT is lynched day 1. The proxy will become a jester N1. Now that convert counts as one of the 3 converts. Also if the proxy becomes the new JK. They count as one of the 3 max converts. The rest of the nights. The jk just picks who is converted. With a Max if 3 converts.

Thank you for clarifying.