S-FM The Immortals

[blinkskater]

Who's town?

[Distorted]

Who's town?

you summbitch come bring me beer >=O

[blinkskater]

Efes trolling hes town, light strolled into town and claimednhis role right hes prob town.

I saw like a page vs distorted vs kenny. Thats why i want to lynch lenny everygame because hes fucking scummy asf

[blinkskater]

you summbitch come bring me beer >=O

I cant im going out my girls bday weekend ill be more active after monday, protect me

[Distorted]

I cant im going out my girls bday weekend ill be more active after monday, protect me

aight, u doc me i doc u. doc chain.

[blinkskater]

aight, u doc me i doc u. doc chain.

That works even if ur scum u cant kill me cuz u doc me got it.

Everyone sheep distorted day1 if we lynch a town he scum. If we get a scum hes town

[Wiisp]

Someone can give a gun, right? I wants gun plz :3
@blinkskater
*Checks role pm* yes I am town, idk about you though

[Wiisp]

@blinkskater
I think you might have rolled scum this game, no take backs

[blinkskater]

Me town itnwill become clear in duentime lol

[blinkskater]

@blinkskater
I think you might have rolled scum this game, no take backs

I roll scum every game m8

[blinkskater]

Also not tryna be that guy here but if you want to scumread me untill monday ish id appreciate it

[blinkskater]

Ima go smash some whiskeys adious

[Wiisp]

Ima go smash some whiskeys adious

Save me some <3

[Bahkieh]

jesus christ 800+ posts? come on

[Bahkieh]

Nahh fuck reading through all that tonight, im sick and just got off work. I cannot commit the attention right now.

[ZergSoupYum]

A solid chunk is a circular argument between Distorted and Kenny that you can ignore after a while.

[Demaris]

*throws french fries in the air* ugh work suuuucked. anything new?

[Light_Yagami]

Yeah The Cardassians Allied With The Dominion..

[Wiisp]

?????? Keeping my eye on you Mr all Black.

MM I have my eye on you as well. Wanting to remove pressure off light at start of game. Makes me think, (posable world of you and light are mafia team but you worried Light may crack.)

Watching you both.

Mike seems to be trying really hard to give off that vibe, "ya im doing stuff, ya im suspecting people", I agree that this aligns a little with town meta, at least from video mafia, but its super hedgy, the tone of these posts, just feels fake, and as someone who respects his scum game, hes going to stay on the lower end of the spectrum untill he gives some real thoughts

[Wiisp]

add in some early shade
like last game, light is probably town, his soft, and his I don't give a fuck tone probably doesn't come from scum
also, his reads are shit, nothing has changed, his votes are preemptive based off his flawed and egotistical way of looking at the game

[Wiisp]

Ganelon has a self-awareness that tends to come more from town, he can go up the town pile, still dislike a lot of his focus on the mechanics of this game

[Wiisp]

@Efekannn02
theres a big tonal gap, between a lot of his posts this game, and hes doing things to appease people rather than because hes the Potato lord
almost feels like there was a point where he was like, "ohh shit, my seriousness is actually coming off as scummy", and then if you look at the posts he's recently made you can see that, the trolling is almost forced, and that hes doing it just to keep up this cover of being a troll... Lets not forget the overreaction to his train, where tonally and based off his personality, you would think it would be the opposite reaction to votes on him, only scum are this afraid of dying this early in the game, if he is town id probably laugh because he should probably be the day one lynch, if I dont manage to find posts to bury pestilence

[Wiisp]

Okay buddy! I don’t see you as scum, just a town with a bit of an ego ^~^ if I’m lynched by you, and you’re town, once I flip I fully expect you to say “sorry great archon-sama I was wrong”

i buried the town doctor last game, I wont apologize for being wrong, and i most certainly wont praise you for playing the way you currently are, if this is in fact your town game, which theres about 1% chance you flip town at this point, pages 1-6 is mostly just you coasting, add in the occasional jokes

Hmm, I like you so far, and I like Stealth too (Yes, I can see through the walls of thy Archon)... so hop into the townreads, Chogall.

you better starting town reading the right people, or you wont be having a pleasant time this game, i doubt you are this bad of a player, to honestly think that there is any sense of town coming from Pestilence
but I also kinda doubt there is a wolf/wolf world where you hard defend your buddy who is playing this poorly

[Wiisp]

I take it back. The way that Pestilence and MM answers the same question pg 7, is just scum buddying each other
neither which have seen my scum game, only my hyper aggressive town game, which idk how this leads them to evaluate my slot that way

they are literally tming me in a scum world with them, and honestly i cant even believe im arguing this as a point

[Wiisp]

So Efe is scummy for trying a new meta but Ganelon isn’t scummy for going back to his old one?

im going to highlight this post, because again, this just reeks of scum trying to direct the thread... I already explained this once, but I think i need to explain it again
the mindset going into a post like this, "X is scummy for this, so Y should be as well, with a hint of shade, "like what is this terrible train of thought", this is typical scum play, and we should always bury this

[Wiisp]

@Demaris
how long have you been playing mafia? there seems to be a large difference at least intellectually when it comes to your posts, one post you are asking newbie questions, and another post, you are coming to very strong conclusions that require some mafia knowledge

P.S: if im mistaken about your mafia experience, plz let me know

[Wiisp]

Listen buddy I don’t know what you’re doing and what you’re wanting but if it’s your dick sucked, you can turn elsewhere for that.

I sincerely hope you’re doing a gambit because if you believe this standoffish egotistical bullshit is going to get us to grovel at your feet then you are in for a nasty surprise because I’d sooner eat the fucking dirt you stand on.

It’s unfortunate that I read you as citizen because I’d really like to remove you so we could get someone productive or spend this energy here on something productive. Saying “I’m right” over and over again is not a strategy. And it’s equally incredible that you aren’t even reading our damn posts because I said on like post #80 that we can’t view our mentions. Take a second to actually read our shit, remove the tunnel your head has been lodged into, and view the new landscape. There is a lot more here than us.

im going back to this post

large tonal jump, extreme anger, most likely from being caught
self-awareness here, "It’s unfortunate that I read you as citizen because I’d really like to remove you", is scummy as shit
Lots of shade, when I've produced content, and scum reads, early ones were lacking, but that doesn't invalidate any of my current thoughts
Chopping down my posts to just, "saying im right over and over again", major yikes

get dunked on btw

[Wiisp]

Just a few Wisp posts for you

It's not "Y'ALL FUCKING MORONS". It's just hostile, and it irks me a lot. I find Stealth's reaction very understandable.

I have to remove pings and quotes, because my browser doesn't like them, you are trying to control the narrative of the thread, and its disgusting, you are a very spastic scum player, and that's more or less what I am seeing here, and I would appreciate you not dismissing my case on Pest without adding why

I am hyper-aggressive as town because I like to control the narrative, I'm sorry if it bothers you, but I'm not leaving up the game to someone else, id rather lose or win at my own hands

[Wiisp]

Btw since I’m caught up:

Townreads:
Marshmallow Marshall - Doing his usual town meta. Helpful, trying to move the game forward, scumhunting. The classic WIFOM “I’m a town power” D1 post. And most importantly, not getting all flustered the way he does when he’s scum

Light Yagami - not disputing his role claim

Efekannn02 - again, mainly for his role claim

Kenny - because for me this is the town Kenny meta. Distorted seems to be saying Kenny played this way last game as scum which, if true, would erase this meta read for me but from my own experiences with Kenny *cough* Hitler *cough*, he always gets into arguments like this as town where his recollection of the game and what people have posted is not quite accurate and instead of acknowledging that he just tunnels on whoever calls him out

Pestilence - Have never played with an archon before. But I realized something - look as scum you have to essentially manufacture your reads/reading of the game. But what is the likelihood of two different players as scum having the same fake reading of the game in their heads? I figure that if the two of them have the balls to be posting at the same time as each other, they must not be afraid of scumslipping by contradicting each other. So that is my convoluted reason for townreading the slot.

Null:
Distorted - he is playing like he always plays. I’m mentioning this because those unfamiliar with him would likely townread him at the moment for his play so far (has seemed to be pushing at people and scumhunting quite a bit) but for me with distorted this is his usual behavior for both alignments so it’s not alignment indicative.

Scummy
Wiiisp - have not played with this person before but he reminds me of PTB. Not sure what to make of his posts so far. They’ve half seemed extremely serious and half seemed like it might just all be an act and that he’s giggling to himself while pretending to be butthurt. It certainly rubs me the wrong way.


Don’t think I’ve seen enough of the others to give a read

only scum need to express such a large view of their thoughts this early, this read could very well be rushed, im interested in if you keep up this play style throughout the game

I am not butt hurt, i just believe if you are gunna scum read me, you better pull out some decent god damn reason for doing so, and not shade me

[Wiisp]

Would lynch:
Mike, Pestilence, MM, AAmirus, Efekannn

thats where I am at, at the moment, its 2am and i want to reread the kenny vs distorted stuff in more detail, but i do it in the morning
but skimming through, i didnt see many voices interjecting, which means there is a slight chance its just a V/V interaction

[Wiisp]

Hmm apparently efekannn claimed mayor? Yikes

[Wiisp]

Hmm apparently efekannn claimed mayor? Yikes

Wait which role in the setup even is this?

[Wiisp]

Why am I still awake...

[Efekannn02]

Wait which role in the setup even is this?

Gunsmith

[Light_Yagami]

Kenny (1 [L-8]):
Ganelon
Wiisp (3 [L-6]):
Kenny, Light_Yagami, aamirus
Pestilence (2 [L-7]):
Wiisp, blinkskater
aamirus (1 [L-8]):
Distorted
Distorted (1 [L-8]):
Efekannn02
Demaris (1 [L-8]):
Falling Foxes
Marshmallow Marshall (1 [L-8]):
Hybrid
Efekannn02 (1 [L-8]):
Numbertwo

As It Stands And I Dont Like How It Looks So..

-vote unvote

[Wiisp]

@Pestilence
My posts are shitty? My reads are garbage because what, you are in them? Fuck out of here I have a PoE of like 5 people all of which I mostly instantiated on

You are not discrediting me, you are just whining,, what view points of others? Why the fuck should I care what they think? And I can so tones of instances were I Barned others reads so that's false and a lie

Stop shading me you dumpster and learn to play the game of mafia

[Wiisp]

My ego isn't that large that I refuse to play as a team, and u keep arguing that I'm tunneled which again I'm not because I have more than one read, of which I can't vote all

You keep arguing the same point over and over again, and I still have no idea what you are trying to say with it

I'll be happily awaiting your reads

[Distorted]

My ego isn't that large that I refuse to play as a team, and u keep arguing that I'm tunneled which again I'm not because I have more than one read, of which I can't vote all

You keep arguing the same point over and over again, and I still have no idea what you are trying to say with it

I'll be happily awaiting your reads

The thing that i find most susp about this sitution:

you have been pushing at pesti most of the day so far, and no1 has really done much to move the train. its almost been like a lot of people have been passively picking, "you or him". no1 seems concerned with either. that is kinda pinging me in this.

[Distorted]

The thing that i find most susp about this sitution:

you have been pushing at pesti most of the day so far, and no1 has really done much to move the train. its almost been like a lot of people have been passively picking, "you or him". no1 seems concerned with either. that is kinda pinging me in this.

my fight with kenny is literlly like the only other thing that is notable that has happened today lol and even then, everyone just wrote it off to TvT and went back to u and pesti. no1 tried to scapegoat me or kenny over either of u 2.

[Wiisp]

The thing that i find most susp about this sitution:

you have been pushing at pesti most of the day so far, and no1 has really done much to move the train. its almost been like a lot of people have been passively picking, "you or him". no1 seems concerned with either. that is kinda pinging me in this.

i came to the same conclusion with kenny vs you (still need to reread it)... but... by making this post... u are actually defending him in a way, and also there is MM who is now gone that defended him
the train is at 2, and my train is at 3??? exactly what are u seeing

[Wiisp]

also, I noticed AAmirus had a few things to say towards Kenny and Distorted

[Falling Foxes]

Kenny (1 [L-8]):
Ganelon
Wiisp (3 [L-6]):
Kenny, Light_Yagami, aamirus
Pestilence (2 [L-7]):
Wiisp, blinkskater
aamirus (1 [L-8]):
Distorted
Distorted (1 [L-8]):
Efekannn02
Demaris (1 [L-8]):
Falling Foxes
Marshmallow Marshall (1 [L-8]):
Hybrid
Efekannn02 (1 [L-8]):
Numbertwo

As It Stands And I Dont Like How It Looks So..

-vote unvote

What do you mean?

Is this comment about Kenny and aamirus?

[Light_Yagami]

What do you mean?

Is this comment about Kenny and aamirus?

Yes Kenny Was My Earliest Scum Read And I Dont Feel Comfortable Being On Any Lynch He Is On

[Wiisp]

@Kenny who else have u pushed? and once again i will quote this to u:

this thought process is very 1-dimensional, so you think claiming a tpr is scummy, yet you didnt vote him?
and what is this damus point? i dont remember him claiming tpr?

[Kenny]

i came to the same conclusion with kenny vs you (still need to reread it)... but... by making this post... u are actually defending him in a way, and also there is MM who is now gone that defended him
the train is at 2, and my train is at 3??? exactly what are u seeing

More than half the players are just coasting by and not putting in any votes. There's scum-motivation for doing so to avoid being pressured, inexperienced or inactive players act like that commonly as well.

[Distorted]

i came to the same conclusion with kenny vs you (still need to reread it)... but... by making this post... u are actually defending him in a way, and also there is MM who is now gone that defended him
the train is at 2, and my train is at 3??? exactly what are u seeing

if the choice comes down to u and pesti, im voting pesti, that much is obvious. im just trying to put votes elsewhere while we still have the extensive time to move them around.

but just looking at the situation we are at right now, it wouldebt be hard for mafia to move a lynch. but then u do bring up the point, ur the top train.

-vote pescilence

so lets see if it starts getting defended.

[Distorted]

this thought process is very 1-dimensional, so you think claiming a tpr is scummy, yet you didnt vote him?
and what is this damus point? i dont remember him claiming tpr?

why would i vote an uncounter claimed confirmed TPR? especially when its efe doing the claim. and the thought process there is a "no u" at kenny. since he keeps telling me i was "tunneling him" even though i only voted him for like 2 hours lol

[Kenny]

More than half the players are just coasting by and not putting in any votes. There's scum-motivation for doing so to avoid being pressured, inexperienced or inactive players act like that commonly as well.

If this situation were to be what we're in, posts like these by inactive new players would fit the criteria:

A solid chunk is a circular argument between Distorted and Kenny that you can ignore after a while.

*throws french fries in the air* ugh work suuuucked. anything new?

[Distorted]

Yes Kenny Was My Earliest Scum Read And I Dont Feel Comfortable Being On Any Lynch He Is On

im down for a kenny lynch anytime lol

[Wiisp]

I said you didn't tunnel? What? What is this if not a tunnel? There's a meta read on you on that part even.
You also did not heavily disprove your Efe pushing. The only thing you didn't do is vote him. Which is a fucking scumtell in this situation. There's nothing disproven.

Anyway, again as a list, for everyone and you to see:
You were throwing shade at Efe after he claimed gunsmith, you were supporting the pressure that was going in his direction. You were also not voting him despite that.
You started this argument with me because I explained MM to be in his town meta with him providing several "reads lists" when it was in reality seperate reads he was providing and not lists in the usual sense.
You have lied several times in this argument, you have been backpedaling, you did not form reads on other players like you usually do and you also even used a push on Pestilence as defense for yourself, when in reality you were sheeping Wiip.
Your main argument for me being scum is that I'm playing a meta which I several times used as town and one time used as scum. While I am forming more scumreads on you, you are not. Usually I'd expect a townie at that point to stop and look at others, but you keep going back to your earlier posts.
You ignored my questions directed at you and generally you are not forming reads.

Quite a long list, don't you think?

this is an excellent rebuttal from Kenny

You were throwing shade at Efe after he claimed gunsmith, you were supporting the pressure that was going in his direction. You were also not voting him despite that.

this is a very strong point as well

if either of them are scum im having a hard time seeing it... from this battle
Aamirus jumped at a very odd time, literally shutting down Kenny for absolutely no reason
I almost want to respect Distorted's play here, because ive been told hes a good wolf...