I'm glad that the days are 72 hours long because I really want to hear more from certain people, they seem to be busier during the weekdays than weekends. Gotta pin down which reality I suspect people in.
I'm glad that the days are 72 hours long because I really want to hear more from certain people, they seem to be busier during the weekdays than weekends. Gotta pin down which reality I suspect people in.
As a reply to all of your posts.
I honestly think Yagami is Town, and that he's not making these big plays.
Slaol is indeed a hard to read player; however, right now he wants to play like not-himself, I believe. He's not serious right now, and he's mostly waiting and fishing... so I say we wait to see on him. I townread him a bit for now, more of a "benefit of the Slaol" than anything, and it's an highly volatile read. But still a read nevertheless.
Mhmm, I believe that.
Don't push it tho :P
........Okay. That's much probably a lie to avoid having to say anything about your scum team, so you're making it clear we can't get info out of you for the other reality. Got it
@Yayap
I subbed in just before day 1 and submitted my night action before getting my role card, which i received after day start.
Just before day the day in which i started posting.
Actually no, am talking about other people that talked more day 1. I see Lawyer has asked to be replaced out. hmmm...
@Eclipse What do you think of Lawyer in this reality?
@MM I town read Yagami more in the past. Do you town read him in both?
Why The Hell Didnt You Guys Let Me Hammer?
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This post isn't sitting well with me. Witch not giving feedback is common enough. And him saying that scum have no nightkill seems strange when we have 2 people claiming attacked and healed. Now with Damus saying that he was scum in past - but didn't have an action nor had a scumchat, it is possible that scum in past don't have a night kill (yet).
I'm begining to suspect a cult leader having to decide to recruit his scattered team (who are already aligned with scum, so no changing alignments) or do a night kill, I still suspect Yagami was controlled by a witch so thats 1 scum action, I expect more tonight.
So... why did marshmallow think my post implied that there were no scum kills before Damus said his post? And why in both realities? Was Damus given drugs instead of being attacked?
As for Damus being targeted last night, based on my wifom reads - he was not the one I thought scum would go after, I made it quite clear that I suspected Damus being scum in 1 reality and didn't know which one at the time - seems like the ideal candidate to keep alive so that my focus stays on him. Giving him the attacked and healed drugs would also raise hairs on my neck if no one died since I certainly didn't expect him to be healed. Drugs are becoming a stronger theory the more I think about it.
I did expect Yagami to be hit so doctor on him seems logical and is easy to believe.
Now I did suspect Marshmallow to be scum in 1 reality yesterday too, I chose past with interesting votes joining me - Damus didn't seem to have a problem joining that vote so Damus didn't think Marsh was a scum buddy there.
Short of trying to pressure lurkers and afk people, I think we need a closer look into Marshmallow man.-vote Marshmallow Marshall
I think I'll head to bed now... no one is talking, hopefully I can spark a debate or this chat will be a bit boring.
So do you somehow want everyone else to believe what Damus said too? Seems like that's a big factor in your argument, despite Damus being dead scum with 0 reason to tell us the truth about the past. I'd expect him and his team to do whatever they can to get us paranoid on the past reality and make this one here canon.
Even if we don't take damus' word on his scum role not knowing his team, Marshmallow shouldn't have known that before damus said it. Thus a bigger reason I want to pressure marshmallow.
Damus openly said that he was scum in past, which heavily shifts the town preference to the past where scum are down 1 and town still all alive. I do believe damus prefers present so why would he say that?
Even if we ignore damus' claim all together about the past, why would Marshmallow think I implied there was no scum killing role here? He somehow knows that damus was not attacked.
It was incredibly fucking obvious that Damus was scum in the past. I don't think even a single player would've expected him to be town. His scumclaim has 0 impact on the town's preference. The only thing that can shift preference is the way his claim influenced you and your theories. You seem to be trying heavily to shift the votes towards the present. Scumpainting Yagami being a big factor in your play.
If you have a better reason to pressure someone else, I'm all ears, but this chat has been relatively dead and mm is the best I can come up with other than the lurking afk people. Most of the others I have tpr suspicions and don't really want to push too hard until after convergeance since I might expose what they are there.
I'll leave "why would Marshmallow think I implied there was no scum killing role here?" for MM to answer, but now you claiming he would "know that Damus was not attacked" is incredibly far fetched. You were the one who came up with a drug dealer theory, I just don't get how literally any other player's posts before would indicate towards it. Note, I don't disagree about your theory making sense. I do believe it do be unlikely for Damus to be a doctor's and a killer's target. Tbf, I don't even see the purpose of picking him out of all people as drug dealing target either however. Don't you think drug dealers usually go after people who would at least look like believable targets? And ignoring all that, why the fuck would MM just slip that information? And not you?
Fair enough, if you suspect me in the present - I can see why you wouldn't want to follow me here. Truth is, I do have a stronger town circle in present than the past. And I don't mind a Consort filling one of the scum role slots. I do heavily suspect witches to be a scum role in the past, the rp all but confirms it.
I also have a good read on you as well Kenny so if you have a better suggestion, I'm willing to follow your lead. Up until now, you haven't said much.
I’m fine with no one believing me.
The truth will out when I flip in that other reality.
Yayap, my town alignment can be proven thanks to Lawyer in the PAST reality
as for now, me and him are no longer connected, I guess there's a small chance he could have become evil, we are split now so to speak
OK, I used the question in my head instead of the word "implied"
Both yagami and damus were not who I thought would be attacked in the present, I thought it would have been you. I'm known to follow the wifom for predicting night actions, things went completly different than I expected, so yes, I'm trying to think up theories how or why those 2 got attacked/healed. Witch making yagami target himself makes sense to me making yagami alignment no longer a confirmed town death.
if they don't have an attack, making someone who is not likely healed claim attack and healed is lynch bait - especially if I already suspected damus day 1. So yes, damus makes sense to me for being targeted by drugs because I normally wouldn't believe him.
That is not a question I can really answer that would convince you. So I'll leave that up to you to judge.
Light, a hero that we didn't deserve!
Oh Damus so you were a scumbo, after all!
I wonder if there's 1 evi left or 2 in the past.
there's also the possibility of a filthy witch as people have mentioned
My towncore is strong in the years ago reality
but I'll wait til thread opens to post there, I'm excited!
Eclipse, have you ever seen tape-face?
You should go YouTube him.
I gotta get some sleep. I'll try to be on before going to work. Until then, can people please start posting here so we can scum hunt?
Posting without making too obvious what your trp is that is...
Two people claiming attacked and healed, what? I know about Damus... there's another one?
That's a possibility.
Drug dealer? Maybe. They would choose to send that drug feedback, though? Isn't it random usually?
Also, it looks like you're basing a lot of stuff on Damus not bullshitting us about the other reality! See my post about it for more details, but I don't believe that so much. He can have literally every intent possible in the game, we don't know what he was, what his scum team might be, what he wants to do...
So yea, no, Marshmallow man isn't interested. :P
@Marshmallow Marshall
Assume you are scum.
Assume Yayap is right and Light shot himself with a Cross Reality Witch.
Why would you, being scum, attack me.
What’s your hypothetical here?
why did you tag me, Damus?
Slaol - Already explained this some time ago, basically he has the benefit of the Slaol in both realities. Looks like he's fishing and trying out new stuff (not leading!), so I let him be for now. We'll see post-convergence.
Eclipse - Waiting on more from him... INACTIVE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Efekannn02 - I suspect him from being scum on this reality, he has not attempted to help town, only to derail discussion (his "coded" poem is a good example...).
Ganelon - Rolecard stuff with Mike, while Mike retracted his mill thing. It's really weird. Then, he hasn't been really solvy, which isn't town!mag. So, scummy.
I will not expand on any thoughts I have on slaol at this moment.
I think Eclipse is self aware here and is playing with caution or hesitation. His posts haven’t struck me as invested in solving or scum hunting. Being pinged seems to make him jumpy or at least that’s what I interpreted his responses as. There is only seemingly negative interactions I have seen him have with other players.
Efekannn002 Is very clearly hard trolling. However I was under the impression they were straight up claiming a role within the trolling but the lack of follow up in what I perceived their role to be detracts from that thought. I haven’t had a good grasp on how they play the game but it honestly seems like a pissing contest to somehow “prove” they are the best troll.
Ganelon hasn’t responded in either reality in the way I would anticipate an average town to respond as. That being said I don’t believe Ganelon is scum in the past. I find their post timing and style in the present to be scum indicative, thru the use of passivity and passive aggression in the tone. That also being said. They clearly aren’t invested in this reality which is telling of alignment. Plus the hardclaim (that was this reality yes? Yes I verified) the latter half of this read is very strong as a town read for me.
-vote Marshmallow Marshall
I dislike the lack of effort you put into your reads.
I dislike your unwillingness to collaborate with me in evaluating the potential scum actions that I suspect took place.
I dislike the tone you have used in this reality.
People have kept their lips sealed on this thread, the action happened in the other thread
This present day has been 'Mikey's Show' and everyone was cool with that.
I agree with MM and yayap, we need to expand and try to broaden our horizon beyond Mikey and his mill.
Not sure if you're trying to troll me or what, but those posts clearly show an inquisitive flavor. I wanted to sort those players, to find more about them
It's a state of a confused townie, I mean if that's negative, I guess we're on different page.
Every town should voice concern over suspects, the people that don't rock the beat are mafia since they have already the entire picture and don't need to prod people except for pr hunt.
The intent is to evaluate what scum did based on feedback we have given in the thread. We use that to determine who is most likely to have done it, what scum roles may be in he game, why motivations are behind those actions, place additional suspicion or clear a player from suspicion based on if their claim of feedback is believable or not.
Marshall absolutely refused to engage in this thought based on the premise that anything he responds with is going to be scumpainted.
The response of scumpainting him for his thoughts would also be telling; being that I would turn around and ask other folks such as you for what they think of his thinking.
I asked him for reads and he provided a weak one or two liners for each person that only dewelled on the surface of each individual. There didn’t seem to be any solving or puzzling in his given reads. And he turned around and asked me wht I thought of those players.
But he refused to engage in the other questioning but giving the weak reads was fine.
I find it odd. I don’t find it townie.
I would expect a scum player to rebell against the exercise just as Marshall did. Because it puts that player in a place of vulnerability and scum players naturally shy away from putting themselves in that state.