Number two was lynched. He was mafia consort.
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Number two was lynched. He was mafia consort.
Game will resume in 24 hours. Friday Jan 18th at 9:10.
This isn't where i parked my car.....
Day5
NumberTwo was lynched. He was Mafia Consort.
Auckmid was killed by the Mafia.
His role was:Citizen
LW:[spoiler]I was disapointed with what I accomplished on day 3, since I think I grew lazy once it was heavily implicated that Distorted was not the MM and Arsonist became such an easy lynch target.
No one is confirmed town from this point. Relying on Bahki is extremely sketchy since there is a high chance that there is a GF and/or framer even if Bahki is indeed the sheriff. I trust Unknown, but remember that they are also not confirmed town (Unknown being town would implicate me as confirmed town, not the other way around).
This game is going to come down to scumhunting based off of reads. I don't have all that much more to add other then what I or others have already said, but lets go through it...
Glip: I heavily disapprove of his day 1 gambit. I have made it clear that I have disapproved of his day 1 gambit. Having said that, I don't see much of a motive to play as he did day 1 if he is infact scum, so I won't call him scum purely over that. His posts after then have been undeniably pro-town, even though Glip is an experienced player so being able to feign a pro-town attitude should be something in his capabilities. I lean town on him, but he is by no means above suspision.
naz: I'm not sure where to go with her. She is effectively refusing to defend herself from my accusation that her "scumhunting" during the early parts of the game were highly supificial, which is of course very scummy. I'm not sure if this is because she isn't able to defend that claim or if she simply doesn't know how to. She seems highly suspicious at this point, but once again, this is all just theory.
Light: I wanted to try to do a full read on him tonight, but he simply has so much spam that it is hard to. The one section that I do want to heavily refer to are how Light acted towards the end of day 1 when people were heavily pushing a Damus lynch. Essentially what Light did from that situation was the good ol' "I don't agree with lynching Damus... but I guess I'll get on board if that's what everyone else really wants" which comes accross as mafia who wants to get the mislynch off but wants to give the appearance of not being down for the lynch should the mislynch actually happen. Also comes up as highly suspect.
The issue that I have with having two citizen scum at this point is that it would mean that 2 mafia were competing in the same catagory, making them both seem more suspisious. While having two citizen claims be mafia is still absolutely possible, don't rely on something like naz and Light both being mafia.
Numbertwo: If he actually is escort, he really shot himself in the foot by delaying his claim day 2, claiming to not visit mike and then reavling on day 3 with his "jk, just didn't feel like role claiming, I actually did roleblock mike night 2". The results of this night will say quite a lot about whether he should be top lynch priority. He was claiming that he would likely RB mike. I didn't respond to this since if he is escort, it would be beneffical for the mafia to think he was going to RB mike. However, if he follows through with the RB on mike and there is still a mafia night kill, lynch his ass (if you are escort Numbertwo, you absolutely should have known that actually RBing mike would result in your lynch and we deserve the loss if you did something that stupid without anything to show). If he RBs someone more reasonable, heavily consider continuing to let him live and target someone else with the lynch. As long as he knows that he cannot RB mike or unknown, he is not going to hurt the town with his night action, and if he ends up being the final mafia, he will inevitably reveal himself when he can no longer role block. Also keep in mind that the firebringer kill was very odd and does imply the presense of a consigliere. If mafia does have a consigliere, it will confirm Numbertwo as town since there would not be a possibility of a consort.
mike: I was leaning town on him going into day 3. The reason I am now much less certain does orriginate from the Arsonist situation. While he did make a bit of an argument for why he thought that Arsonist was MM (effectively that they would have had more support if mafia) I still find it highly dubious that he was so certain that Arsonist was the MM. Keep in mind that only the mafia would no for certain whether Arsonist was mafia or MM and that after being grilled quite a bit on why he was so certain that Arsonist was MM, he admitted that there was nothing in day chat that revealed Arsonist as MM and not mafia. Additionally, his very early BG claim also seems questionable seeing how he was so willing to role claim with no real reason and that BG is an extremely vulnerable role. Mike's fate I think is largely going to come down to whether people believe that he was justified in his certainty of Arsonist being MM. I find it to be fairly questionable, but this question is going to have to be passed on to the remaing town.
Unknown: Again, me flipping town does not confirm them as town. However, I was town reading them quite heavily. Not much else to say. My death does create a bit of question about them (mike is the only other player besides unknown who has a role-claim that is that useful versus mafia (The use of Bahki as the maybe sheriff is going to be highly dubious due to the high chance of a framer and/or godfather)). I highly doubt that mike would actually be the target due to mafia thinking him as being the most likely busing target, leaving me as the next most appealing target due to my semi-confirmed status. Having said that, I still see him as likely town reguardless.
Distorted: My goodness, what a rough game he has been having if he is indeed town. His playstyle doesn't make a ton of sense as mafia since it essentially started as tunneling onto Damus (Town) into coming up with ridiculous theories/scumhunting attempts (You thought I was mafia and Unknown was town? Really?). HAVING SAID THAT, the most recent game on the site literally had someone playing the "Too stupid to be scum" game. Don't just assume Distorted is town for this type of reason. I'm still leaning town on him, but please keep an open mind to his potential scuminess, especially if his scumhunting attempts continue to be garbage.
Bahki: I'm not going to say much here. I explained earlier why I trusted AIVION much less then other people seemed to. The fact that he KEEPS on claiming to be checking dead people is also highly questionable, especially since there is a definate possiblity of a consigliere after the firebringer kill. Still not nessecarily my top lynch pick, but please don't just write him off as town.
Remember, at least 2 of the mafia are in the naz/Light/Glip/Bahki/Numbertwo block and reads are going to need to be used to win this game. If numbertwo does have what seems to be a pro-town RB action (RBing Bahki I do NOT see as anti-town, as I think he still has a decent chance of being mafia, has quite a high chance of being the one to carry out the kill if he does and I don't think his action will be that useful if he is town).[/spoiler]
Living Players:
@Distorted
@Glip
@naz
@Unknown1234
@Light_Yagami
@Bahkieh
GraveyardMarshmallow Marshall: Executioner Lynched day 1.
Efekannn02(Flavor)
Aamirus: Citizen Killed by the Mafia Night 1.
SCVMurderer was lynched day 2. His role was Amnesiac.
Damus_Graves: Lookout killed by the Mass Murderer/Modkilled N1/N2.
Firebringer: Doctor Killed by the Mafia Night 2
Arsonist: Mass Murderer Lynched day 3.
Mike: Bodyguard. killed by the Mafia Night 3.
Numbertwo: Consort. Lynched day 4.
Auckmid: Citizen. Killed by the Mafia Night 4.
4 votes to hammer.
Day 5 will end on January 21th at 12:30 PM Eastern time.
This isn't where i parked my car.....
@Unknown1234 who did you bus last night?
@bahki who did u check.. lol
@blinkskater 2 questions
1) is Mafia night actions Mandatory? or can they not do their action at night.
2) Can Mafia target each other?
Auckmid's LW, even though sadly out of date, does bring up a good point. There's very little reason for Unknown to still be alive if he's not mafia.
I have no idea why I’m still alive. I just wanted to end day yesterday so I didn’t have to worry about this game. Struggling with time availability slightly and hoping that I will have time to be around as we can’t afford to mislynch or else scum will just target me and end game.
I bussed Bakieh and Distorted last night. I figured that if I wasnt attacked last night that they would target the sheriff. I guess I was wrong about that.
Gonna make this short and sweet. There’s two reasons I’m alive.
1.) Im somehow being framed. I don’t know why this would happen, I haven’t looked into the WIFOM of this that much and tbh it’s hard to keep up with reading genuine reaction. That being said, very confused on what happened yesterday with you, Distorted.
2.) My reads are way off. Would have to mean that the scum team is like, Bakieh and Light most likely. The fact that this seems so unlikely to me though means that it’s probably not the case. Maybe one but not both.
If I am being framed, I’d be suspicious of Glip. Given they jumped on the first chance they could to call me out on being alive.
I’m making this clear that I won’t be around much on the Saturday half of the day. There’s a chance I’ll be more available on Sunday, but that’s also not confirmed (have to wait how things play out today).
I’ll want to hear what Bakieh has to say, so I’m not planning on placing a vote anytime soon.
@Distorted 1.no
2.yes
This isn't where i parked my car.....
@Distorted Im Still Not Sure I Trust Your Veteran Claim Waiting On The Sheriffs Findings..
I'm pretty sure there is no sheriff and it's a Mafia. And @Unknown1234 if you are BD you shouldent be revealing ur results before the sheriff. since if he claims x is mafia and u happened to bus him, would be curious to see how he reacts to finding out it was actually someone else he could potentially be "framing".
Numbertwo (5 [L-0]): Light_Yagami, Unknown1234, Auckmid, Distorted, Bahkieh
@Distorted @unknown @Aukmid
I Have A Possible Lead.. If Your Willing To Listen..
Naz And Glip Didnt Vote For Numbertwo..
Leading Me To Believe Now That It Is Naz 100% Scum And That Glip Has A 65% Chance Of Being Scum Partner..
Also, Naz Was Very Counter Productive Yesterday.
I just don't see how the Mafia team woulden't take the opportunity to bus NumberTwo there... I mean, I may be completely over thinking it but I just can't see it being that simple..
The thing is, the obvious setup for yesterday would be for Mafia to agree to bus NumberTwo while he pushes one of his own teammates. it was a very confident numbertwo lynch for D3, especially with him claiming to have RBed unknown. That's a reason im having such a hard time townreading unknown still. He was doing exactly what standard play would have been for mafia...also, unknown is only scumread by me. nobody else but mike had a scumread on unknown. He also claims to be BD, which right now is the scariest role for Mafia; literally killing 1 of them at night is a possibility - so why woulden't they hit him?
Yesterday, @Unknown1234 i was trying to use u as a "scapegoat" for mafia to see if they would try to pull attention off of number2 and go for you instead. nobody took the bait, which is fine I didn't expect too much from it. I also voted you (i thought i put you at L-2 at first) and kept a copy paste "unvote" ready to see if i could get the few people who were on to quick vote (which is why i was sad when i saw you were at L-3). I've been trying to bait out who numbertwo's team was... the way I see it, we have a crude amount of info about everyone. and numbertwo wasn't a big driving force, so just lynching him alone would not show many interactions...
However, if you are scum as well that would also explain why there is no traction from number2 to you - they may have felt the plan was backfiring.. but also im still alive. this could be because im a vet claim and they are scared to hit me. or it could be because my games been so off this game that they are just sitting back allowing me to run in circles as they giggle and exchange snaps of oddly shaped fungus they find growing on tree's as they hike through the woods; your guess is as good as mine at this point :shrug:
I checked Unknown and he is NS
I play way too much Pokemon.
unknown keeps revealing his fucking busses before distorted claims "alert" so distorted could be fucking coasting this whole time because our dumb bus driver, if he is really a bd, keeps fucking revealing his night actions before letting the fake PRs slip
In-game or IRL?
There was no traction yesterday because NumberTwo was the better lynch both for town and for scum busses. You're right that the only one trying to hint towards pulling votes to Unknown over Numbertwo was you, which made you look very suspicious. I'm not surprised if mafia would keep you alive as a potential mislynch + scared of hitting you as vet. As for today though; Bahkieh should've been dead unless mafia was afraid of redirection from Unknown, in which case, Unknown should've been dead. I'm not sure why Auckmid would have ever been the target when they should've been able to take one of these dangerous TPRs out guaranteed, and taking out a citizen narrows down the cit pool for the scum hiding there. And Bahkieh finds Unknown Not Suspicious?
Is there a world where Bahkieh and Unknown are the two remaining scum? I suppose that's possible if literally both Town ANYs flipped Cit (troll host confirmed), but I don't see why they would still be playing defensively in MYLO. It would've been an easy play for Bahkieh to bus Unknown and then push a mislynch on a cit the next day for the win; if he were a fake sheriff, there are so many better plays he could've been making this game. The only question is why he's still alive. Mafia willing to sacrifice another one of their own for a free bus if necessary? Confident they can push for the mislynch on Bahkieh instead?
Unknown being town though SHOULD be too dangerous for them to leave alive, even if they thought they could push a mislynch. The potential redirect killing one of their own would be game-ending, should be way too great of a threat. Unless they were super ballsy and bet they knew who Unknown would target, or at least who he wouldn't. Auckmid was already confirmed town in Unknown's eyes, but cit would be a low priority target. Bahkieh is an obvious bus target so that Unknown can either protect the TPR or throw the fake sheriff under the bus literally, and Distorted would make sense for Unknown's scumread as I was saying yesterday; one of the two should be scum.
If Unknown and Bahkieh were both town, but mafia was confident that Unknown would probably bus Bahkieh with Distorted, then it would potentially make sense for them to hit a citizen instead and push for the mislynch on Unknown. It would be quite the ballsy play though, and I'm not sure I'd see that coming out of a Distorted/Naz or Distorted/Yag team.
Maybe this is why. You seem so sure that one of us is scum.
btw @Glip ; what was the point of ur gambit D1? I do not understand it. You claimed that you were trying to bait the mafia kill. But you were claiming Mafia and trolling? the only uses behind that is becusae you are mayor, or another CONFIRMABLE or you were mafia faking early Jester/exe. Nothing you did was baiting a kill, it was the exact opposite. You also gave an excuse on D1 for a "change in meta". that is something we see a lot of newer scums. They get paranoid of their play and start wondering if they will act scummy. so early in the games they make an excuse for why they are "playing differently".
From how you have been playing the rest of the game im convinced that whatever plan you had going was not town. How on earth is claiming ur godfather and spamming mike is mafia swith u so lynch him will get you "targeted".
but i also think this is a question mafia would have asked in night chat. so honestly this makes me townread naz more. usually mafia ask a lot of questions about roles and mechanics at night to figure out kills. her not knowing if BD can self-bus +town
im leaning towards a glip + bahk lynch.
and lol @Glip we are talking in 2 diffferent Mafia games at once... It gets confusing trying to keep the read separate in each game haha
jesus you are fiesty this game lol
But I also townread this to. It takes a special level of evil to criticize people like this as scum. this isnt defending or anything this is frustration with trying to figure out the game. Why would a scum just sit back and devalue people for not being able to find them all game? just wouldent make sense. and im pretty sure naz isnt feeling pressured or scared about light suspecting her.
Okay, shorter version of my wall post from earlier:
I was coming off of Werewolf Ball with high effort citizen play and got depressed with my misreads and mislynches losing the game. I realized that I established that meta for how I play as citizen, so if I wanted to attract the attention of the mafia night kill, I'd have to do something different. Best low effort play was to claim Mafia and push a believable grudge play; Mafia, knowing I was not one of them, should've realized that my play makes sense from the perspective of a TPR that wants to not get killed and/or can confirm himself with his action (and thus is making a reaction play), and chosen to take me out that night. When they didn't, that meant to me that they're opting to go for the mislynch instead and wouldn't be trying to kill me, so I explained myself.
Gambit failed, and the reaction reads weren't much to go on. Unknown and Auckmid had pretty much the same reactions and it's looking fairly likely they're on opposite teams, the sheep voters are mostly in the graveyard as town except for Yagami (and I think Naz? I'm having trouble remembering all the way back to D1 now, but Naz and Yagami are also likely on different teams).
Luckily, the other game is even lower effort than this one :P
The fact that Unknown is still alive and that you're engaging in discourse with me instead of spurring on the lynch shows to me that he's likely scum, you're likely town, and Unknown should be our lynch for today. Bahkieh finding Unknown NS is NAI if Unknown flips Godfather, and I've already stated (on multiple days) why I think Bahkieh should be playing differently if he were scum. I'm willing to entertain the idea of Bahkieh being scum, but I don't see a narrative where his actions make sense from that perspective.
Naz I townread for many the same reasons as you. Her frustration feels legitimate, especially with the effort she's shown in this game. She's been putting forth reads, helping table claims, she was the one who claimed and called out the cit overflow. The fact that she scumreads Bahkieh is concerning, but ultimately NAI.
That only leaves Yagami. It's curious that he scumreads Naz while simultaneously echoing her frustration sentiments (and he has put little effort forth himself into this game with which to get frustrated). He also scumread Bahkieh yesterday, but has quickly flopped today to Naz being his highest scumread. Overall Yagami has been quite lynch happy and was quick to throw his votes on the early trains in previous days. He has also been uncooperative (while calling out Naz for supposedly being "counter productive"), and is infinitely frustrating my read on him With His Insistence Of Typing Like This For Absolutely No God Damned Reason. I don't want to scumread him for that alone because he clearly types like that everywhere and not just for this game, but it's just so god damn annoying and it makes it so difficult to deal with this slot properly. I already vented on a previous day why I've been searching outside his slot for scum first.
bus driver is actually a great claim for GF. Not only does it justify to lookouts and detectives visits without having to give info on feedback. but it allows for (in a Mylo) situation to claim he bussed said player in the chance a sheriff found a mafia.
I think im starting to townread the glip.
-vote naz
ok my little excel thing is saved on my work computer which i won't have access to until monday.
Town Gov: auckmid
Invest: Damus
Killing: Mike
Protective: Firebringer
Power: Unknown or Distorted, both unconfirmed
ANY - here prob. citizen, leaning toward glip
ANY - could be sheriff, or unknown and distorted could both be town
Citizen: aamirus
Citizen: naz
soooo i've been pretty sure light_yagami has been scum all game because of the way he's been playing
when he ACTUALLY is a citizen, he doesn't flip flop his vote around all over the place like he has been this game. i actually was reading him for the neutral killing slot before the slip up happened in the game.
what he has been doing this game has been opportunistic votes without any reason/evidence to back up why the person he votes should be the lynch - what LITTLE reads he has given this game have been lacking in any substance
-vote light_yagami
if he flips citizen then ggwp glip
Oh My Vote Is Zoned In And Wont Move Naz.. You Are The GF IMO.. For Constantly Saying Im GF.. And You General Uselessness This Game.. I Was Flip Flopping My Vote Day 1. Because I Wasnt Sure What Was Going On. To Much Shit Posting For My Tastes. Also, I Was The Only One That Down Right Refused To Vote A Pro Town Amnesiac And Pro Town Executioner.. Who Could Have Basically Been Bused Every Night With Someone..
omfg i was gonna ISO him but he was the second amount of posts, 599, one less than mike - just gonna share what i can before i get bored
Spoiler : a shit ton of posts where he is scum reading sheriff but theres no vote in any of them :
citizen is SUCH an easy godfather claim, check out this wifom:
so he's scumreading the "sheriff" but HAS NEVER VOTED HIM, i think he likes to distance himself from scummates, evidenced in the next post:
so remember, numbertwo roleblocked unknown1234 yesterday (no one else claimed to be RB) so unknown is MAYBE town??
Up To Town At This Point You Either Trust Me Or You Dont.. Either Way When I Die Know That Its Naz And Likely Distorted As A Scum Team.. I Appreciate Your Service Either Way..
Further More.. I Dont Think The BG Would Have Lived As Long As It Did If We Didnt Have A BD.. Also, The RB On The BD Is What Killed The BG.. So Lets Really Think About This..