Naming Yourself A Color

[Trenix]

Players shouldn't be able to name themselves a color. I've seen games where people accidentally went to lynch the wrong person because of it. Honestly, it's not strategic, it's just a easy way to ruin the game. So all colors present in the game, should not be able to be used as a name.

[jowyblight99]

Rarely should you see things like that really happen though and there is a setting for the host to disable custom names and that solves a lot of problems, including donor name abuse

[Sookie]

i find it funny when a color name gets his color. i don't see why this is a bad thing, people just need to think.

[Trenix]

Rarely should you see things like that really happen though and there is a setting for the host to disable custom names and that solves a lot of problems, including donor name abuse

It's definitely not rare, its quite common just like the majority voting system. Someone who is revealed will vote on the other player just to throw off majority of the players. This is all because of a name? That's pretty lame, naming yourself should be designed for customization rather than confusing people.

[Jester]

Blue's the most common I've seen. One match had the *color Blue being called out in a last will by the invest and everyone thought he meant the guy with the name of 'Blue' who was light green and who was jailor. The town, being the USUAL dumbasses they end up to be, who vote on anyone who says anything against another player, hitting the vote button without a thought in their mind, voted the name 'Blue' off just like that. Terrible situation...but it doesn't happen too often, and you're always gonna get dumb situations when you're playing a game with a mass group of random people. Mafia just seems to be a goldmine for SC2 trollers since the game is based off of lies and talking lol.

[Ubernox]

This is Trolling at worst, funny at best. I laugh when people make their names colours.

[Lysergic]

A) Then every number would have to be banned, as well, just in case idiots mix up the username with the player number. And then similar names would have to be banned. And then... See how this works?

B) Sheriffs and invests should specify (e.g. "orange (color, not username) is mafia") instead of just being like "lynch orange!" and letting the town try to figure it out.

[Trenix]

A) Then every number would have to be banned, as well, just in case idiots mix up the username with the player number. And then similar names would have to be banned. And then... See how this works?

B) Sheriffs and invests should specify (e.g. "orange (color, not username) is mafia") instead of just being like "lynch orange!" and letting the town try to figure it out.

A) Player number? Yeah, no. Highly doubt anyone knows their player number. Surprised you even seen any similarity between a player number and their name/color. The only thing that defines players by numbers are triggers, which we don't even see.

B) People shouldn't have to specify because we have idiots who troll the game. There are only two ways you can identify someone, their name and their color. Therefore, you should see how naming yourself a color is problematic. I'm not asking for anything new, since we already have some restrictions. For example, notice how multiple people are not allowed to have the same name and we also can't have identical colors. So I'm suggesting we shouldn't allow people's identity get confused because of a name and color.

[Bluejay]

I'll admit to having done this before and being in multiple games where up to 4-6 other people chose color names as well. Idiots and trolls aside, I haven't seen this as being a real issue. I mean, players still don't get the difference between pink and light pink, and that problem can't be fixed either.

[Bazar]

I'll second this.
Disable naming yourself after a colour.
Simple, quick, and easy.

And while it is amusing when the colours match, it is only confusing at best when they don't. I have seen games lost over the confusion.

Nothing is lost by disabling the stupid names, only the quality of the game improved slightly.

[Trenix]

I'll admit to having done this before and being in multiple games where up to 4-6 other people chose color names as well. Idiots and trolls aside, I haven't seen this as being a real issue. I mean, players still don't get the difference between pink and light pink, and that problem can't be fixed either.

If colors are identical, you can rely on the username. To be honest, I've never been confused by color but I have been confused by color names, multiple times. I'm considering removing the ability for players to name themselves because of it. I don't see how that's fair that I'm unable to select my own name because of an exploit.

[Goremancer]

If colors are identical, you can rely on the username. To be honest, I've never been confused by color but I have been confused by color names, multiple times. I'm considering removing the ability for players to name themselves because of it. I don't see how that's fair that I'm unable to select my own name because of an exploit.

One of the dumbest things I have heard. How do you "remove" the ability to name yourself a color? If you make it impossible to name it "Blue" He'll just name it "B-lue" Plus the script size limit is preventing changes.
Plus who gets confused by this? All you need to say is the color blue or the name blue. Nothing to get confused about unless the players are seriously retarded.

[Lysergic]

A) Player number? Yeah, no. Highly doubt anyone knows their player number. Surprised you even seen any similarity between a player number and their name/color. The only thing that defines players by numbers are triggers, which we don't even see.

And you just proved to me that you don't understand the game mechanics that you are bitching about.

When you look at the list of names in a game, each person is given a number. So the person with the color red is player number one. If I want to PM that person, I can use the following:

-pm username message
-pm red message
-pm 1 message

Thus, naming yourself 1, 2, 3, 4, etc. is just as annoying as naming yourself teal or red or blue.

Thus, using your OWN logic, ANY NAME that causes confusion and could get the wrong person lynched needs to be banned. Thus, the numbers 1-15, all colors used by the game, and any names that are too similar.

In other words, a shit ton of work for DR, who no doubt has more important things to worry about.

The other way to counter this is to SPECIFY who your target was as a sheriff.

B) People shouldn't have to specify because we have idiots who troll the game.

"People shouldn't have to think because there are other people who cause confusion."

In case you're missing the sarcasm here, I disagree with what you said there.

There are only two ways you can identify someone, their name and their color.

Or their player number. Herp derp.

Therefore, you should see how naming yourself a color is problematic.

I am NOT saying that it doesn't cause confusion. I'm saying that it is confusion that is easily avoidable if the town PRs play in an intelligent manner. YOU are saying that you can't be bothered to play in a smart manner, and thus want the game to be reprogrammed to suit your stupidity/laziness (take your pick).

I'm not asking for anything new, since we already have some restrictions.

You're asking for... NEW restrictions... and thus something new.

For example, notice how multiple people are not allowed to have the same name and we also can't have identical colors. So I'm suggesting we shouldn't allow people's identity get confused because of a name and color.

Actually, I can get the exact same name as anyone else I want VERY easily.

I can also get a name that's completely empty (I've won by doing this before, and then simply not talking at key moments - people literally FORGET that you are playing).

There are a billion and one scenarios where I could make a name that you would consider "trolling." Should DR have to go through and program EVERY exception into a banlist?

For example, in order to "ban" the name "orange," DR would have to ban all of the following names:

orange
<c val="FF000"></c>orange
o<c val="FF000"></c>range
or<c val="FF000"></c>ange
ora<c val="FF000"></c>nge
oran<c val="FF000"></c>ge
orang<c val="FF000"></c>e
orange<c val="FF000"></c>

etc. etc. etc.

Think.

[Jester]

An easy fix...players need to up their IQ a little bit lol. If a last will or invest/sheriff call out someone, YOU NEED TO SAY something like "the color blue is mafia" or "the player Blue is mafia" so there's no confusion. Don't just say Blue is mafia. But sadly there is quite the dumb, quick clicking crowd usually.

[cookies4you]

An easy fix...players need to up their IQ a little bit lol. If a last will or invest/sheriff call out someone, YOU NEED TO SAY something like "the color blue is mafia" or "the player Blue is mafia" so there's no confusion. Don't just say Blue is mafia. But sadly there is quite the dumb, quick clicking crowd usually.

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Impossible, IQ doesn't change. For all I know, many people still don't know where the Any key is. After that, they rage and reset. It is an endless cycle.

[Jester]

Loading upgrade. Upgrade initializing. Beginning setup. Setup complete. Upgrade at 50%. Upgrade at 75%. Upgrade at 100%. Press Any Key to continue.

Impossible, IQ doesn't change. For all I know, many people still don't know where the Any key is. After that, they rage and reset. It is an endless cycle.

Lol agreed. The internet is a wonderful and terrible place.

[Dark.Revenant]

Actually, disabling single-color and single-number names is easy. Will be in the next version. BTW, red is always 1, blue is always 2, teal is always 3, etc.

[J]

Actually, disabling single-color and single-number names is easy. Will be in the next version. BTW, red is always 1, blue is always 2, teal is always 3, etc.

I do hope that the next version comes soon; Does this mean that you've found a way around the script size limit?

[Dark.Revenant]

No. It just means it was a simple change.

[Trenix]

And you just proved to me that you don't understand the game mechanics that you are bitching about.

When you look at the list of names in a game, each person is given a number. So the person with the color red is player number one. If I want to PM that person, I can use the following:

-pm username message
-pm red message
-pm 1 message

Thus, naming yourself 1, 2, 3, 4, etc. is just as annoying as naming yourself teal or red or blue.

Thus, using your OWN logic, ANY NAME that causes confusion and could get the wrong person lynched needs to be banned. Thus, the numbers 1-15, all colors used by the game, and any names that are too similar.

You're right, naming yourself a number would be just as annoying, but that's only if pms are activated. However, there are other alternative way to pm someone, other than memorizing their number. However, it is an exploit, which is why it should be fixed.

Or their player number. Herp derp.

I know a few color's numbers. I didn't memorize all of them, nor would I want to. I bet if you're in a game and you say, "lynch player 9", I doubt anyone will know who you're talking about. Also, please don't say herp derp, it's extremely immature and makes it very hard to even take you seriously. Just an advice...

I am NOT saying that it doesn't cause confusion. I'm saying that it is confusion that is easily avoidable if the town PRs play in an intelligent manner. YOU are saying that you can't be bothered to play in a smart manner, and thus want the game to be reprogrammed to suit your stupidity/laziness (take your pick).

This is a program flaw, in the real mafia there wouldn't be confusion like this.

Actually, I can get the exact same name as anyone else I want VERY easily.

I can also get a name that's completely empty (I've won by doing this before, and then simply not talking at key moments - people literally FORGET that you are playing).

There are a billion and one scenarios where I could make a name that you would consider "trolling." Should DR have to go through and program EVERY exception into a banlist?

For example, in order to "ban" the name "orange," DR would have to ban all of the following names:

orange
<c val="FF000"></c>orange
o<c val="FF000"></c>range
or<c val="FF000"></c>ange
ora<c val="FF000"></c>nge
oran<c val="FF000"></c>ge
orang<c val="FF000"></c>e
orange<c val="FF000"></c>

etc. etc. etc.

Think.

Congratulations, you break the game with your exploits. I'm surprised this is not a bannable offense.