In reply to the huge Yayap post...
I don't know what to think. What I see is a funny guy, but out of that... I mean, he says himself that he would fight Slaol to death if they were scum, and he scumreads Slaol. I agree with that read... he's not pushing him hard though, and I have some doubts on the sincerity and seriousness of this read.
The post is basically wrapping itself. Replies are either funny, saying something is NAI, or calling Slaol scummy. I tend to say it's towny, but I think I have a bias on it because of my read on Slaol.
However, I do like the fact that he pointed out that Gerik's post is not really alignment indicative, since statistics are a thing for everyone (Maybe not damus tho xD).
The list of roles is interesting too, I agree with the ways to deal with each of those roles. That's easily done as either alignment though, so I'm not going to read too much into it.
The way the conclusion is worded is a town gut-read though. I don't see someone coming back into a community he hasn't been in for year(s) as scum, and just say we're terrible at scum hunting (I assume "actual" means like mountainous (cits vs mafiosos) setups scumhunting)... I mean, if he's scum it's just dirty, rude and ballsy lol, but I'll trust it for now.
Up into the townreads. And about Slaol - Yayap theory, they are way too carefree to be scum together, and they don't fit they scum self-meta... for what it's worth but it still exists lol
Well sb16 has been hiding from us if I was scum vet. I would stay on down low can’t be detected. So don’t get lynched day1.
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-vote Stealthbomber16
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I didn’t think this through lmao I’m spending all my time on smash bros and completely forgot about this
You’ll get some activity out of me when I get home in roughly two hours, at which point I’ll make a big tower post and stick around for a little while.
Interesting, I dont belive it. it this is true then Why all of a sudden do you show up once I vote you?
You are and have been keeping an eye on the posts. you have been hiding. You just now come back the second I vote you. I do belive SB16 would be number 1 lych for day 1.
1 if sb16 is scum perfect hiding spot. ( I believe this to be the case. )
2 if sb16 is town unless to town since all scum knows he is vet always alert.
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@Yayap
1: I think Architects are quite powerful, especially when they can invite as many players as you can, but no it is because it is you that I trust it to be powerful.
2: observation, if I were scum I wouldn't need to publicly bump you in the "kill wifom". Id just bus you to death
3: of course based on your reads decide if you want Naz in there, but for all the good your reading can do you can also discuss with someone who has a night investigate power and direct their power. furthermore you WANT scum to get in there to read you dipshit, so this is actually counter to your own use of the chat that you would deny my suggestion. get good.
4: a word
5: of course if I was scum id lie. this goes without needing saying and the fact that im sentient and public about it should speak volumes. I intend to use my knowledge the way I see fit to do so.
6: Sadly Naz dying will be because my boy creed decides to make a pass at me tonight. Someone would be very upset with you @creedkingsx
7: You glossed over the meaning behind my "Veteran" post I assume. reconsider but probably keep it hush hush <3
8: I do remember you complaining about that actually. Well FM 15 was a day 4 mafia surrender with something like 5 living mafia members deciding they had been caught by me to an inescapable level. Had other highlights but that's the most impressive.
Person Town/Scum Town/Scum %
@Damus_Graves is The King(Mayor) Nul/ Scum lean 25% / 75%
@Gerik is The Queen(Doctor) Nul 50% / 50%
@Marshmallow Marshall is Zola(Lookout) Nul/ town tiny town lean 60% / 40%
@Stealthbomber16 is Killer Croc(Compulsive Veteran) Scum Strong lean 20% / 80%
@Banshis is Meerkat Mum(Survivalist) Nul 50% / 50%
@TheDarkestLight is Frida(Vigilante) Nul 50% / 50%
@Mike is Don Lu(Grave Digger) Town 100% 100% / 0%
@rumox is Uncle Jalapeno(Jailor) Town strong lean 75% / 25%
@creedkingsx is Mags the Mechanic(Escort) Scum slight lean 40% / 60%
@Yayap is Grandmaster Sensei(Networker) town slight lean 60% / 40%
@Slaol is The Great Magician(Bus Driver) Scum Lean 25% / 75%
@blinkskater is The Goddess(Bodyguard) Scum slight lean 40% / 60%
@naz is The General(Sheriff) Town Strong lean 80% / 20%
This is just how i see it at this time. I have been giving reasons all game. so not doing a big wall post here.
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post from 512 to now has me so confused. Naz???? looks like you are trying to send MM to the wolfs and then you vote rumox. My 2 biggest town reads and one is voting the other. rather you are scum covering for SB16 or, This game I am way off in left field. I truly not sure what option is correct.
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So my meta is that I make good posts regardless of my alignment? I'm ok with this
So what I'm seeing here is: lynch Slaol. His role existing prevents town from confirming anything or trusting any night actions.
-vote Slaol
They do. That is the entire purpose of that mechanic.
-vote Slaol
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BB1 do you have any reasons for my lynch other than my role? Cause I called for my own policy lynch on the topic of my role earlier
Lol what
I'm saying he's a good player, his thoughts (not his scumread on me though, and I think (and hope, for everyone's sanity) that he understands what an RVS vote is) make sense (like don't spam past games if they are not related to what's happening other than dick measuring contests, or when he called blink out with "YOUR HONOR THIS MAN IS FULL OF SHIT"). He's also not posting SUUUPERR long and wordy posts, which is his scum meta.
high value posts at all times.... followed within the same post by....
policy lynch maybe our best role with literally 0 other support.
the keking is maximum tbh
Fucking @Gerik can we just commiserate that we NEVER fucking get to be on the same team? It genuinely pisses me off.
I still read Sloal and MM as SvT. and if Sloal flips town. I will have MM as big scum target. If Slaol flips Scum as i suspect I will trust MM fully.
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Are you suggesting a policy Lynch on slaol? I don’t find that idea to be town minded, based on the limited amount of times we can mislynch. I read slaols posts as soft encouragement for others to read and make connections on their own but I also read the lack of proper explanation/any direction being in his posts to be scum leaning.
It’s saying this person is scum for reasons but you have to find it yourself. In this style of game it is more reasonable to provide at minimal a link or quote to the slips you find/claim so others have an easier time drawing their own conclusions.
Example being what rumox, myself, yayap has done.
I strongly belive Sloal and Damus is on same time that i have no doubt about. SVS TVT? but Damus is a very smart and crafty player. for his to show all his cards D1 to save a scum mate I dont see at all. Damus will d1 buddy a town if he is scum. that is fact. Damus Buddiesing a scum mate I just dont see. and Damus is budding Slaol. I have some thinging to do. in the mean time back to sb16
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That was a fuckign easy iso. dude has 8 posts
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...159#post780159
His 2nd post is pro my lynch on the grounds of just a role related lynch. I of course asked, but id say hes actually been prepping on the "gettm" line for the game thus far.
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I strongly belive Sloal and Damus is on same team that i have no doubt about. SVS TVT? but Damus is a very smart and crafty player. for him to show all his cards D1 to save a scum mate I dont see at all. Damus will d1 buddy a town if he is scum. that is fact. Damus Buddying a scum mate I just dont see. and Damus is budding Slaol. I have some thinging to do. in the mean time back to sb16
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Why would you immediately assume we're not on the same team? I'm town, so that would make you scum. But for the sake of argument, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not claiming to be scum and are trying to say that you are town and I'm scum.
Let's review the facts:
Fact 1: You suggested that we policy lynch you on the grounds that your role is too powerful in scum hands
Fact 2: I agreed with said policy lynch
Fact 3: You then began to accuse me of being scum, as shown here.
Since you didn't accuse me of being scum until after I reiterated my support of your lynching , we can conclude that you believe support of your lynch to be a scummy position (ignoring for the moment the obvious OMGUS nature of that behavior).
However, you were the one who originally suggested lynching you, so by that logic you would also be scum. Therein lies the conundrum: If you're town and the suggestion was pro-town, as you claimed, then supporting it should also be seen as pro-town in your eyes. But you see me as scummy for supporting it. This means that either you know it's pro-town and are still actively against it (which would make you scum for opposing a pro-town plan) or you never saw it as a pro-town plan to begin with (which would make you scum for suggesting it).
I do now.
It is indeed unfortunate that you are mafia.
And now, on today's episode of Slaol argues with Slaol (emphasis mine):
Good news, Slaol. You've been upgraded from 'policy lynch' to #1 Scum read.
Lol my dude.