Also Slaol. You were voted, unvoted, debated about... You said you would give us info. WHERE IS THIS INFO???
@Stealthbomber16
What is the slip?
Im still typing
You are truly bad at this. I love how you said I scum slipped a lot. I find that funny as I am town. Your post on everything is out of context. Why becuse you have been playing another game as you say for 2 days. Yet you posted right after the first time I voted you. Now you trying to discredit me and scum paint me.
Town SB16 is 100% mafia.
SB16 if you where town vet and I was scum as you say. Why the hell would I push so hard to lych the vet on day 1 to show my cards Lyching vet d1 is stupid for mafia. And I am not that bad of a player as you are trying to sugest. I believe you are prob the mafia killing role. And I will not change my vote off you.
Please town lych SB16 he is Mafia
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1. If I weren't tired I'd literally go grab you links to 3 different games that I can immediately think of where people scumread me for this reason when I was town. Get a better reason.
2. I don't need to discredit and scum paint you. You're scum and as a bonus nugget your meta backs it up. You discredit yourself by saying things like
3. You push to lynch me because I appear as low hanging fruit due to inactivity. Easy day 1 mislynch if I don't come back. The suspicion is already fading off of you if I do. It appears as a very low risk play. But you forget something. I am no mere mortal. I am a fruit. If I were to say that my inactivity thus far was entirely to bait a scum, would you believe me?
i'd be lying. this bit of the post is just to see if mike actually reads
4. Oh yeah damn you found the mafia killing who kills all the many people who visit him at night. The confirmed mafia killing in the entirely randomized setup.
You're grasping for straws and it's not working.
Read all the posts. At the time blink said he was going to protect his highest town read. The vig had said a threat to me at that time. So I pointed out if they both town would be bad. 2 town dead. Do you get it now??? McFly? There was also a lot of debate about it after the fact. So you picking just that one thing and bringing it up out of context is 100% Scumpainting. Dude can you be more Obvious?
Low hanging lmao. Mm and sloal is more low hanging than you.( let me beat you to the scum paint here this is me scum slipping also) Yes I town read them. If I was scum you would be my last lych. Dude you are vet we can not detect you. Only a newb would pick you are a d1 lych if they where scum. You are the perfect patsy for a d3 lych not a d1 lych. You see Lyching you d1 is pro town. Takes off the speculation latter on is the vet mafia? No scum would want to lych you d1. So come up with something better.
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Arguing with you when you answer 1/4 of my post isn't going to get me anywhere at the moment so I'm going to log off.
Have a good night.
No this isn't me saying you're right. No this isn't you having a good point. You actually just proved by posting this that you aren't reading my posts. I'll leave someone else to figure out how I proved that. It's fairly simple. Shouldn't take you more than about a minute. I suspect Mike will post something about it in about 10 minutes if nobody else is online.
So you've confirmed that blink never said you were his top townread?
So why did you assume he would protect you?
We're back at square one. Exactly why I'm done with this topic as you don't have an actual response for what I'm saying.
Here's a fun fact. Right now, neither of our opinions matter. Neat, right? Save your breath. I'll save mine.
LOL at SB16. I read all your post. Nice cop out.
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As of this moment I have Slaol and Blink locked in as scum. Mike I am unsure of but he is and has been a neutral-scum leaning read. I have a killer headache at the moment and this current interaction between SB and Mike just isn't being absorbed lol.
Basically my read boils down to Slaol over reaching and trying to orchestrate me to kill the one slot that is untouchable by Mafia (SB), instead of the slot he scum read (Blink).
-vote Slaol
Ok think if you where Mafia. Would you truly want to lych Vet d1? No you would not. Vet can’t harm you 0 Threat. Not even the bd can buss scum into him(buss driver would die before the action happened). Also scum would want to leave vet on the table if they knew he was town. Vet would be an easy d3 or d4 lych. Why would mafia want to give that up. But people defending the vet lych is pro scum if you think about it.
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Why are you defending Slaol? You have scum read him all game up until the point you started pushing against SB for being... AFK. The same reason Slaol suggested I should jail and execute SB instead of Blink who he scum reads.
Mike trying to follow bread crumb clues by his overlord scummer Slaol?
On a side note, I think Slaol is at a loss for words for his major post. Last time I made a post that took me over 5 hours, I had 3 years of posts to sift through - he has only 2 days to evaluate. I'd almost think that he was counting on finding a way to make us forget that he was suppose to show this mega post of his, in any case, I'm quite sure that it won't give me any more information to make any decisions today - and if anything it has delayed me from contributing me to give him that chance..
I'm off to bed now. But I'm off work tomorrow and will be online in the afternoon and should still be online at end of day.
If anyone hammers before then - I'll be really angry as I have not sent out the invites to the night chat yet. (still debating who I want to plan/talk to and if I want scum to know what was said)
I've rewritten this a couple times because I don't think you guys will care as much about my intent and will care more about what I see right now. (also for formatting)
I wanted the attention to bring out a scum mislynch push. I was setting it up all game, and it is here now. Don't let them brush off their overwhelming lack of real contribution.
-vote Gerik
Topic 1: The policy lynch
- The reality is that a policy lynch is a fucking terrible idea, especially when it is over the strongest roles, which I suggested. You’ll notice most players were against a policy lynch. This game is 9 vs 4, which means that for a mislynch day one Town has to get 7 of its 8 voters lynch the 9th, or that Mafia only needs to gather 3 towns. Those numbers mean for a Scum sanctioned lynch we only need to lose 37.5% of the town, but to pull off a mislynch we’d need 87.5% to fail. A mislynch on day 1 is truly a failure of the town, or a signup list for scums. The only reason you might jump on the idea of a town sanctioned lynch is if you were scum and really hoping to get off with a nice numbers advantage: here goes the plan.
Topic 2: Me as the lynch
- I have been specifically angling myself as the lynch target all day, for the sole purpose of drawing attention to me and hopefully no one else. Players like Mike or Marshall are not good at defense long terms and I don’t support their defending themselves. Stealth is also hyper low activity and a mislynch on them on day 1 was incredibly likely to occur if a dynamic didn’t shift. If they clearly slipped then they would be good bus targets, shot targets, escort targets, and jail if we don’t lynch, but they were also the easiest to be lynched. I am also a large character, simply on personality, and likely to draw a lot of attention. I said I’d rather be msilynched day 1 instead of executed night 1, and that is incredibly true. If Rumox can pop me he can just shrug it off, but a hammer on my head shows that scum is likely involved.
Topic 3: The town 3
- I called for my lynch, and specifically asked. I also decided to seek out the 3 town votes that I needed. I knew Yayap would vote me out of pure Vegeta/Goku rivalry shit, and he did. I buddied him early also to raise his suspicions of me. Marshall I knew I could get to vote me, and push me, by simply pointing out little thngs in his posts and telling him he was scummy. The dude, when town, can not stop himself from OMGUSing to save his fucking life. He did it against a confirmed town in turnabout, dude has no control of it. And Mike I counted on pure RNG because I think hes probably voted everyone about 10 times. There was my 3.
Topic 4: The Mafia 4
- I knew Gerik, or Damus, if they were scum would jump on the bait, and Gerik did. He pushed for a lynch he felt he could pawn off on me as having been my idea, as he has tried to do. Of course I suggested it…. Because it was incredibly anti-town to do so. The fact that he actually rode with it is fucking hilarious and (ill repeat) beneath him. He did it as a signal, as the 4th of 7, to let his Mafia know to get in on the vote, and even someone who had previously agreed with me on like everything (rumox) is now grasping at straws to scum paint me. I had hoped to get a few more no ones on me to get a few more reads but I did get the votes I was waiting for so *shrug*
Topic 5: Their shit ass accusations.
- Gerik is nothing more than trying to mislynch under the guise of a policy lynch. He only calls me a top scum read after I respond to his vote by calling him scum…. … … which earlier in the game he had said reading someone as scum is not inherently scummy… almost like he’s just making shit up as he goes. And you’ll note that even though he says there is nothing behind anything I have to say he then actually mentions 2 different ways I have deeper intent. His consistency is pathetic, but he’s clinging on to it, where as I have proudly announced my switching gears, in the same way I plan to use my role power as best I can for investigative purposes rather than pretending I am perfect.
- Rumox: He had previously agreed with me on most things, but after the Gerik signaling his accusation amounted to “But geric says so” and then trying to justify not executing literally the worst player in the game so far by contribution. You’ll notice Gerik also brushes off my statement that SB is a better execute – the guy with 3 fucking posts at the time, an activity warning, and who replaced out of his last game.
Topic 6: Why am I slaol?
- I am slaol because someone has to be. You’ll notice in Geriks second post that he attacks Mikes contribution, and manages to be pro-lynch without really saying it directly. He is dismissing someone he thinks will be an easy lynch, and setting up the option to push my lynch later, without bringing a lot of attention to himself. He then accuses me on VERY anti-town grounds, and further accusses me using logic that he himself disagrees with. I believe that his clear lie here is indicative that he both 1: doesn’t have a good reason to push me, AND 2: has painted Marshall as not knowing how to read either- likely another person he sees as lynchable and who is playing into their town meta.
Topic 7: Town
- My biggest Town reads are as follows. Yayap – the way he is talking and treating the game is townie. Damus is town and fearful to lynch me because he thinks if I flip mafia, which he’s not set on my alignment yet, it will look like he bussed me, which I happily already got him to point out in the day chat. TDL is just clearly town imo with how he has used his heightened pressure power on middle scummy players. Creed, I believe, is town based on my interactions with Gerik as Gerik wants my bussing out of the way. If Creed were mafia with him he could just block me. Mike is dumb town. Marshall is dumb town. Naz has also actively tried to solve the game by discussing how he and I should interact. That’s 8 of 9. Stealthbomber is actually my final town rewriting this. I had Rumox when I replied to HIM a minute ago, but reassessing how he and Gerik both matched on ignoring SBs obviously most lynchable status is too obvious.
Topic 8: Scum
- Gerik is scum I don’t need to say it again
- Rumox is scum for his clear following of the signaling - waffling despite enjoying me being painted as less consistent.
- Blink I’ve read as scum and how he just deflected accusations off of Mike and MM with such confidence shows a knowing mafia hoping to cash in on gracious towns. This definitely falls into the "knowing too much" that mafia like to show so hard.
- Banshis. Banshis is low activity, and lower activity as scum, which he hates playing! He also blindly picks Mike to be town for really nothing but gut. Same play as Blink but not as honed.
Topic 9: The 9 of town
- Youll notice that the Town players Ive listed have all also offered more ideas on how to solve the game. I pushed mechanic value. Yayap is waiting on his own big reveal. Naz did so. Mike is fucking trying someone scratch him under the chin he’s so cute. Damus was clearly truly scumhunting. Creed was trying to coach and inform and is even calling me out for rule breaking while drunk. The town is contributing.
- What are my scum players doing? Lurking but randomly buddying. Pushing a policy lynch on ground that they don’t even support. Not okaying executing a fucking 3 post player at the time, and buddying beyond what should be considerd public knowledge – a scum tell.
Not as long as I'd originally hoped, and I want to go do more reads on individuals, but I'd rather get something up tonight than make you wait longer.
The Town
Slaol
Yayap
Damus
Mike
Marshall
TDL
Stealth
Naz
Creed
The Mafia
Gerik
Blink
Rumox
Banshis
@Gerik , why am I your #1 scum for thinking you are scum?
For all of his complaining that Mike and Yayap aren't offering value he seems to add a fuck ton of fluff himself. The insult isn't supposed to change value. The puns, which I have a fucking plenty of, are not even close to what I'm talking about.
And here he tries to jump ahead of my post, despite saying that it had nothing anyway. Fear.
I called out how weak his post was, which it really fucking was. Brushing off the other person in the conversation when they are present.
Claims I had nothing, which is at minimum untrue and proves his lack of town vision.
It is very unlikely, as Gerik is Scum
Suggests SB isn't just clearly a good execute target at the time.
I encourage votes from all of my scum marks. You don't have the votes, so come at me and i'll meet that jailor tonight.
Unless i'm in Jail i'll be behind one of those red names tonight. Hows your roulette, Mafia?
23 hours remain until the deadline.
@Marshmallow Marshall did you see Gerik discredit your reads for the same reason he flipped on me?
If so you see the scum tell and should support me here.
@Damus_Graves
I know you do see what I'm saying, and how Gerik has held to his guns over clear waffling.
@Mike
Do you notice the unearned buddying from Blink and Banshis? And how Gerik has not taken a firm stance against Blink?
I mean I've never liked policy lynching AFK players, which was constant topic of discussion in my previous games. I feel it turns social deduction into run the numbers, hope for the best. I'd rather them be replaced irregardless of my alignment. I was never going to execute or vote SB until he contributed more after his warning or got replaced. With all the other content that has happened, defaulting onto an AFK lynch/execute seemed sub-optimal to me.
It may be because I have never played with you, but the way you deflected Gerik rubbed me the wrong way and since you have been a very vocal slot it's hard not to notice you. I actually still stand by that Gerik raised a good point, but obviously your recent post elaborates why Gerik didn't raise a good point (?). Your read of Gerik seems like a meta influenced read which I don't have any insight of unfortunately.
In any case, my read of you is not influenced by Gerik more-so just a similar end result. When I said a scum read lynch is better than a policy lynch you agreed. I had Blink, Naz and SB in my execute pool as scum reads and you said it would be an err to not execute the AFK player. To me this seems like you're trying to influence my execute away from a potential scum friend (Blink, I don't believe Naz is scum even tho she has an inherent bias against me) and onto the slot that is untouchable to scum under the guise "they are afk, kill them".
@Yayap
Is Gerik above a policy lynch, pushing for reasons he has disagreed with, and demanding you reveal all of the information when he feels it is best? You agreed with me that you should wait because we are on the same wavelength my friend.
Complete lie. I have pointed out that Gerik is pushing me for reasons Gerik himself said weren't enough. There is no meta and it is recordable in this day thread.
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