I know what this game's theme is about and know roleplay is really fun, but I really doubt you guys need to vote just based on what the prosecutor and the defense say. This is mafia after all. I explained why getting me random prosecutor was wrong, and I don't know if anyone really strongly scumread him anyway. If anything I got the feeling that his posts were not okey and he flipped scum... so that's what I'm going to keep from all this.
This refers to the first part of your post. Also, I'm not trying to gain cred from the fact that I didn't case against Damus. I am trying to gain town cred because the way things carried out it just doesn't make sense I'm scum. Which is a different thing.
It was Day 1, and I don't care what other people think of me lol.
"You're making it look like you are the one we should thank for Damus being up lol" Stop fucking lying, I never said something like that. You're not making me happy.
Thank you Anonymous Donor
you're all scum.
God... We have the extremely high and honorable Judge who was right on it and has a really big self-trust, and on the other side of the spectrum we got people who don't read thread and someone saying that highlighting something in a post is scummy. And I stand here, a town who heavily defended the scum leader.
The fact that the trial got bombed doesn't make you less of a red scum possibility. You're trying to push that...
I'm lying? nope. Maybe you don't act as the one we should thank for it, ok, but you're acting as if you had led it or at least wanted him dead for a long time, while YOU KNEW FUCK ALL, the very proof is your high quality prosecutor performance. Even if not only the prosecutor can make a case, as prosecutor you are SUPPOSED to make a case and know what you're doing, else you're just putting a vote not because you believed in it, but for some strategic purposes that don't serve town.
I can guess I don't make you happy since I point out your scumminess there
MM id like you to know that if i werent Judge id be saying more. I feel aa thouh full reasons offer scum advice on how to dodge being read. Ive chosen to keep reasoning close to the chest to not allow reactive defenses, and hope the town got behind my ability and guaranteed intent to trust my views and do readings for themselves as well. Id hope it ripples into the other town, though im unsure it has
Yes, I get this. I'm not disagreeing with your play style that much, it's not why I don't 100% follow you.
It's because you scumread me, and use associations a lot. I know I am town. Therefore, following you is not good logic from my PoV because I know that associations that target me are wrong.
However, what reassures me is that we have the exact same scumread when you eliminate me from the pool, as proven by your reply and my post with cvote just before (or just after I dont remember) your post came out.
Also, for the sake of understanding what the hell happened, mind to explain what you mean by "I'm not scum hunting"? Because I genuinely feel like I am, and I am like this every game I'm town... If you don't want to do it now for information retaining purposes, okay, but at least after the game? You seem to know stuff that I don't about FM, and I don't get what it is because you don't say anything xD
Mafia: stealth/gyrlander
Bomber: NumberTwo (very very small chance its Gyrlander who did it because he didnt read the thread and was burying himself) the bomb was set 10 hours before it went off, so both gyrlander and number 2 were posting at that time, and then stopped posting for the rest of the day. (gyrlander says he wasnt on for it so ect ect but he was posting in here 10 hours prior, which host said is when it happened)
other mafia i got some ideas but before stating would like to see more posted.
and actually, stealth doesnt like blink much (clearly from this game) so i could see stealth doing a grudge kill to kill him during trial. Maybe Damus wasnt the main target at all during this and it was instead blink.
Id happily share some views after the game.
The reason id say youre not scumhunting is because you're very vulnerable to what is going on. Like with Damus. This can be bad town or scum, but the end result is 0 production. A bad town is not scumhunting because they sound clear but get tossed around by good replies, and end up looking like Mike when he cut out his own massive post because he confused himself. Scum can hide behind trusting everyone and never really coming to a conclusion.
This is where you are as youve concluded nothing.
Paint a picture.
Find trends.
Navigate mechanics for the good of information.
Good town should have lasting effects and you dont seem dumb so you should have much more result from your actions, thus why you are clearly scum- or at least a good lynch because everyone follows you but youve simply missed this game, which does happen.
I would like us to lynch stealthbomber today. MM has a higher production potential and even if he is town Stealth is either scum with him or Gyr so ya.
Kenny is likely bomber imo
anyone who trusts my reads should have SB16 at #1 at this time
I would put kenny as mafia before i would put him as bomber. I don't see a reason he would detonate D1. he had no ties or interactions with either of the people who died. he also got more defensive? I believe. i will have to ISO kenny to check, but from what i remember it was a more defensive vibe. which neutrals rarely get since they do not have to "survive for the team" kind of mentality. but either way, we can agree that Kenny needs to be looked into.
Spoiler : cvote :
My first instinct is the meta from the game you were scum with Aivion. How you are coming in and posting to just defend yourself or when you are mentioned. Also, the only people who don't really need to read the thread are scum. Since scum know their targets they can just sit back and ask questions and pick at people to make 'fake contribution'. However, your lack of defense on Damus, with that first post you made of "This is the worst prosecutor to have". I think that is an inside reference to you are having to prosecute your own mafia. Because that would be the worst prosecution setup in this game lol
Stealth is better because he has done less. Gyr gives us more moving forward if it is them
checking how vote changes effect votes:
Spoiler : cvote :
Spoiler : cvote :
This list represents my reads accurately, out of Stealthbomber whom I'm putting there more for selfpres than because he's my top scum read. He'd be just behind Gyrlander, my real list would be Kenny - Gyrlander - Stealthbomber - Numbertwo
I think there are at least 3 scums in that, and I'm sure there are at least two. And by scum I mean non-town here
Spoiler : cvote :
@Slaol I think we may also be able to do some pretty big plays with the kill types here. If you find someone who is pretty much 'lock-town' to you have them vote in the middle each time. If they are not defending or prosecuting then bomber cannot hit them. thus meaning mafia cannot kill them. which makes it a "lynch everyone else" kind of thing.
so i think forming a town block here would actually be heavily beneficial.
my current town block consists of Slaol (ofc), MM, Distorted. it used to have light yagami, but i still think there is a neutral chance on him. I do not have him as scum though, he does not seem like he is following an agenda. Mike is on the border of that block as well.
Stealth, NumberTwo, Gyrlander, Kenny, Voss, Magoroth are not.
Mag, you used to be in that town block, but honestly you have been disappearing. It is getting that feeling that you are coasting off a high town read and trying not to fuck it up. You should be using that town cred to press at people. If someone with a high townread is pushing at you, it feels a lot more pressure than someone who is more of a neutral/null read pressuring you. PUT USE TO YOUR TOWN READ, before it goes away >=O
Gyr didn't get town cred for anything Gyr THEMSELF did specifically. Misrepresentation. See @Mike , I do it to other people too.
I cannot believe you consider me to be within the mafia/bomber/benign Distorted. This is what this vote means.
Also I was going to say you’ve not been very helpful this game up until this last post. Keep up good ideas like these please.
Also, sorry Slaol, I'm going to keep #2 as my #1 vote ,but put SB and MM as 2 and 3.
FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
FM XXI: USA (Escort)
FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)
Distorted, I'm a be honest here, you kinda took the words out of my mouth here. I could have said the same thing to you as you did to Magoroth. The only thing I can remember you doing here is defending Mike, Blink, and Light, and I can only guess that as meta or something.
FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
FM XXI: USA (Escort)
FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)
Spoiler : cvote :
FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
FM XXI: USA (Escort)
FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)
On my phone be home in a few and I will update my vote
Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
Spoiler : :
Uh because Number2 is open claimed bomber.
Marsh and SB are Slaol's picks.
Mike and Kenny need to be voted out so I can figure out this game.
I can't understand Light.
And maybe I should hvae Distorted below you. Maybe not. I'm not putting too much brain power this far down the list.
FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
FM XXI: USA (Escort)
FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)
You've got my #2 and #3 votes. If you insist, I can give you my #1 and #3 votes. If you insist on #1 and #2, I just won't participate and just be your puppet. That's fine with me because then I can just participate in real life.
For me to be more useful in this game, I need to see more eliminations. At which point I'll reread day1 to figure out who was discrediting you. That's where my scum picks would be.
FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
FM XXI: USA (Escort)
FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)