@Slaol , please consider what I've said very carefully. If you're not sure who's scum, and are unwilling to pick between Kenny/MM, go for MM.
@Slaol , please consider what I've said very carefully. If you're not sure who's scum, and are unwilling to pick between Kenny/MM, go for MM.
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And with that, I'll be off, my friends.
I've got a calculus homework to attend to.
Godspeed
if the benign stood in the shadows until now, that's his problem. he should learn better next time.
+1. im moving forward with the assumption #2 is what he says he is.
and @Voss , im actually addressing the scenario if we do go through with ur lynch for some reason and u flip bomber. then number2 dies as well and we are left in a 2v2 scenario with a judge. thats what i wanted clarified with host.
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3 town: me, mike, Distorted + slaol as mayor.
2 mafia: kenny/MM or Voss/MM.
1 bomber: Kenny/Voss.
1 executioner: Numbertwo.
if Numbertwo and bomber die, we'll have majority tomorrow. we won't lose. slaol is our fourth, not third, player
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I don't care why he did; it's not as if it's pro-town to vote inno on Damus. It's pro-scum in every imaginable sense of the word.
Too scummy to be scum is not a good defense.
It's called open wolfing.
then maybe Voss is really Bomber as I've said, and Kenny is MM's scummate.
Either way, Numbertwo wants Voss and I'll be happy to oblige.
This is my true reads as of now. I want to hear Slaols thoughts. I am not saying they are correct. Just my reads as of now.
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can you please tell me why the. fuck you would vote me right now. it's literally. scummy to be voting anyone other than Voss. if you think I'm scum, vote me tomorrow. I pretty much gave town a sure-way of winning. in what way is what I've done scummy.
You saying over and over and over again that I'm bomber won't make it true @Magoroth .
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Mike, it's time to decide.
Either you are town, and you should sheep No2's vote, or you are Mafia. There is no middle ground.
I see why you say that ie why you top my scum list
Mag MM me all had Gry guilty
Number 2 and Voss had gry inno
Slaol was saying he was scum in Court.
It was a hard lean too Guilty.
then Voss pleaded his case
And MM went from Guilty to Inno ( not a scum move ) that was major town read.
then I start questioning Voss. Voss fought so hard even to the point to say Sloal Lied I attacked Voss we got in a big fight Until Voss pointed out facts I then saw Vosss point about it all. and Voss was correct from his/her point of view. So i changed to Inno at that point. I even told Voss I only saw Gry guilty because oh Voss. you where still guilty at that point. So your statement in a way is you arguing you are scum.
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Voss, you are either Bomber or Mafia. There's arguments for both sides, namely the fact that you pushed for the neutral to reveal so early on, something I would see the scum doing, and the fact that you mostly avoided interacting with Damus/MM. Maybe you're actually Mafia and Kenny is the Bomber, I'm not sure. I might be wrong. but MM is 100% Mafia and not the bomber
The votes are tied between Mag, Voss and #2. I like it. Let slaol pick who goes on trial.
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I guilted Gyrlander for sheeping Frog's reads, and because I didn't want Gyrlander in the end-game with us. Distorted said something about Gyrlander being in his scum meta, and if you remember I actually asked Distorted something about that (I don't remember exactly what; I think I. was actually debating with him whether Gyrlander's meta had showed; I think I said something along the lines of "Gyrlander!scum always does something that he wants to appear to be pro-town but backfires miserably"). I was still very clearly in favour of a guilty but I swayed by Distorted's pleas.
Gyrlander was a good kill IMO. Not sure why someone would bomb his trial. Gyrlander was too scummy.
Yeah, I wouldn't want town with me in end game either if I was scum. Great reasoning to inno.
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dude, put it this way. there's really only two possibilities here, namely:
a) Numbertwo is Mafia and his scummates are me, and someone else who isn't Voss, and some fucking neutral still hasn't CC'd his claim. take note of the fact that neutrals die when they achieve their wincon, so no neutral has resigned himself to not doing anything as a result of having already accomplished his wincon. this is absurd. if that's the. case, the neutral should learn better next time. besides, nobody is going to vote Numbertwo.
b) Numbertwo is Executioner and his target is Voss. Either Voss is town, which doesn't really matter because Numbertwo WILL go against his own wincon if we try to Lynch someone other than Voss, so we're fucked either way, or Voss is scum, in which case Numbertwo is pretty much the equivalent of a confirmed town with a vote and will absolutely side with us today unless we vote someone else.
his playstyle even makes perfect sense as Executioner. He put himself in such a position that we have to follow him and. his reads, and wanted us to inno Gyrlander because he. believed him to be town. what mafia would do that? it's much easier to just Lynch Gyrlander and then coast through.
@Slaol if this ends up being a tie, I want to be the prosecution against Voss.
Mag. Give me the Voss is town side
ok, so if you think Voss is town, then who is scum? Mike? Distorted? Numbertwo??
You're strawmanning. A isn't likely. You're fearmongering but we don't need Number 2s vote to vote anyone else. You think because you've "proved" that #2 is executioner, you're proving I'm scum. And because you can't prove who my scummate is, you're trying to paint me as the bomber.
And I realize I'm digging myself into a hole by only defending and not attacking, but right now it's just way easier to do that. I'm hoping that if I can prove my towniness, PoE will have to say that Mag has to be scum.
Mag, if you wanna talk productively, can we discuss who is actually red if you and I aren't? Would it be Kenny and Distorted?
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Voss can you assess interaction between Mag and Dist please? Give me a rundown there?
well, here goes
Voss tried to stop Gyrlander's lynch, and if I'm not mistaken called out Mike/Kenny as flip-floppy. I believe Voss was the first to argue for the neutrals to reveal themselves, which is a pretty-town strategy.
I guess you could also say that up until today, a Voss-No.2 team was very likely, so that too is a plus, given that his interactions with my top scumreads are pretty weak. Distorted defended MM way harder than Voss did, and also inno'd him. could it be that the entire scum team uncharacteristically did not bus this game? it definitely is so, if Voss isn't scum.
indeed, Distorted doesn't usually fuck up with MM's alignment.
and Mike's in his scum meta, given what I've seen of him. if it's not Voss, it's either Mike or Distorted, + MM and Kenny. there's really no other choice here.
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you were serial killer last game and Kenny helped you win. you were scum. and you did this exact same thing where you tunnelled hard on players (such as on MM). granted, now you're no longer. tunnelling on him, but maybe that's just because you're his scummate and tried to bus him =P
Bit off the path but can everyone give me a quick summary of Damus' performance. Not from a player standpoint but more as if you were just reading it.
reading through this i think mag is actually on to it. because in the end if voss is town, that puts town in the same situation tomorrow, just 2 people less thus making it easier to make this same decision. The only way it would backfire badly is if numbertwo ISNT exe. but then the neutral benign has been doing what? the only way a benign could have won is if frog was their target since he was the only lynch, everyone else was bombings.
@Magoroth What i want to know is, why now? why are you so active and pushing a heavy lynch now? D2/D3 u weren't very active. towns in a bad spot and it seems like now u have this boost of energy and plans?
I coasted mostly because I wasn't really sure who was scum, I was afraid of making a mistake, and I didn't want to put effort too much into it.
and it's also due to out of game reasons that boosted my confidence, but that sounds so unbelievable corny that I really don't want to talk about it.