anyway, Voss discrediting a non-mafia and pretty much the strongest town-read by far all game (me) is scummy as hell. I won't be moving my vote and I am 100% confident that Voss is bomber, MM/Kenny are mafia. if you need something from me ping me, otherwise this game is pretty much over. Kenny/Voss are not on the same faction, that WvW argument at the beginning looks a little like bussing, but it isn't, because they're not from the same faction. they cut it off because Mafia/Bomber need each other. one of them is the bomber. do as you wish
Mag had a guilty vote when Mike had guilty. It was 2 to 2 at one point. Then when Mike changed to Inno, I'd noticed Mag changed his vote after. WITHOUT saying anything. That triggered my alarm bells.
@Distorted . I'm not sure what else I can say to this post. I know you said Gyr should have tried harder, and that was the main discussion we were having with Mag after Mike/MM went to sleep.
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kay, I don't really care all that much, so hopefully this'll go right.
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Choo Choo.
meta from the narrator. You have lynched me twice (first time was with firebringer) for "commenting on the lynch" literally with that exact quote "nooooooo magoroth" was the first 1.
You said commenting on the lynch or showing emotion to it is scummy. both times i flipped scum. curious why ur not scumreading me for that now.
also, Voss scum slipped in the jury chat by softly defending Frog's reads. he literally said "Frog wasn't objectively wrong". Frog called Voss "scum or scum". if that's not prime-material scum slipping idk what it is
all the towns/neutrals must vote with us. everyone put Voss as your top scum, or Kenny. I'm 100% certain one of them is the bomber. I'm thinking Voss.
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they're not on the same faction. if you remember sb16's game, I called out Kenny and Noctiz for bussing and they were indeed scum, and the argument looked like bussing, but they weren't actually bussing because they weren't on the same team. I'm getting the same vibe from the earlier Voss-Kenny argument.
also, MM is definitely not the bomber. to paraphrase Wolfy, MM said "Wtf" when he witnessed the Voss-Kenny argument. That was wolf trolling. He found it hilarious because he knew what was happening. hence he's in. a team with one of them. I'm calling out the Voss-MM team. they've defended each other all game, Kenny was pushed by Voss. gg
no, the first time I voted Gyrlander, I voted him because of his "I am no longer town reading Mag after having read Frog's ISO". honestly fuck that kind of playstyle, listening solely to gut is, I'm 100% convinced right now, 50/50. he called MM town, me scum, slaol scum, voss scum, number two scum, damus scum. that's 50/50. fuck that.
@Slaol do u see the situation we are in with voss and #2 right now?
anyway I'm going to stop, I'm coming across as a bit opportunistic and hungry right now, I don't want my overreaction to result in a town loss =P
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Strangely enough, I think removing the benign might be a lynch no one can say we shouldn't do. It'll start to help restore voting majority to town.
What are the mechanical cons to this idea?
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my guess is that Voss is the bomber, and that Kenny is mafia. either way numbertwo won't help us if we don't vote Voss, so we don't really have much of a choice. either number two is mafia and some braindead neutral didn't cc, and we can't do anything about it, or he's neutral and we need his help.
Here is Gyrlanders last will incase someone missed it.Originally Posted by Gyrlander
DO NOT VOTE NUMBERTWO. DOING THAT IS GROUNDS FOR INSTANT LYNCH TOMORROW.
DON'T BE DUMB.
because it means some braindead neutral didn't CC. if he didn't CC, he doesn't give a shit about the town and we shouldn't expect him to do so.
the only logical choice here is to sheep no2. either he's mafia and we're fucked or he's not and we pretty much win the game.
there's also the slight possibility of Distorted being scum, he inno'd MM and Damus, if I recall correctly, but at this point in time it's not really something I wish to think about.
Seriously, someone lay out to idiot voss why we care about elminating the bomber right now, and why eliminating the benign, which helps give majority back to town, is a bad idea.
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I am so confused who is scum and who is not at this point. So much Mud slinging going on. at this point everyone looks scummy. Isn't that what scum wants us to all look muddy so we make an easy mislynch for scum. We need to slow it down and think.
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we don't need to think about it at all; either Numbertwo is Mafia and not really benign, which makes absolutely no sense, no neutral worth his salt would stay in the dark this long, and I honestly would only ever see No.2 as mafia in a team with voss. which clearly isn't the case, and nobody else CC'd his claim.
if numbertwo really is benign, which I don't see how he couldn't be, he will side with scum and outvote us if he feels under threat.
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@Distorted I think you're town so I challenge you to find a better plan
@AIVION If the bomber is lynched and its 3v2 with slaol alive and 2 mafia, do mafia win there since slaol cant vote?
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I can really go either way on Distorted and Marsh, but I'd push hard against a lynch on any of them. Unless what they have to say is exceptionally concerning.
Mag needs to be the one to go, but if Slaol doesn't see that, I'm hoping Slaol can either point out to me why getting rid of our neutral is bad, or rally the town to get the neutral.
I can't waste all day policing this chat to defend myself. I think I've done a great job, so I'll try to forcibly peel myself away.
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I will not change my vote. as far as I'm concerned, you guys can go ahead and skip.
@me if you need anything
cya
-vote skip
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i would like to hear @Slaol 's opinion
There's actually missing mechanics in my setup thread after further review. I have NO clue how they're not in there as I clearly remember adding them. I will clarify ALL missing mechanics that are prevalent to the current situation:
Judge Jury Executioner phase happens when 5 or less people are alive (this is in the setup thread also this excludes the judge ofc) It's not fully explained like it should be. The day chat is shortened to 24 Hours. Judge resolves ties (As always) Judge also get's a say as well during this time as he is the main decider of the trials now.
The Trial phase for this is explained however.
So no, in the hypothetical 3v2 with Slaol alive the game still goes on as the Judge resolves all ties. BUT if it's 1 town 1 Judge and, say like a mafia or a Bomber left alive, whoever is the one alive wins. (I Intent to fully flesh out these mechanics when the game is over sorry that it wasn't in the setup thread... Sigh ;/)
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