Honestly with you trying to convince us of that soft claim which you seemingly pulled out of your ass (you softed Mason Leader and claimed Mason Assassin anyway which doesn't help your case) I'm not sure I can believe you. But does that make me want to lynch you before Kenny? Not sure about that. I'd probably still wanna lynch Kenny before you if the choice were between you two.
Kenny outed himself by saying that the Rizzos are the good guys :P he's also mentioned some other guys whose name I can't remember, so I'm guessing that his bois have a feud with'em =P I have a feeling the scum team were given something like "Get the (INSERTFACTIONNAMEHERE) lynched" as win con =P
Whatevs. I want Kenny dead, you guys may not but I do.
WHICH MADE ME THINK THEY MIGHT BE TOWN
Now you counter claiming what you said earlier? I may be wrong But I am leaning to that Rizzo is a made up thing and you are trying to get a free lych on town to help Scum. then again maybe Kenny is not town and he is evil I dont know but i know one thing is 1st we lych Mag if he is not scum we lych Kenny. because in this way town wins. This time I am not making a stupid mistake like that time.
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I will bet you all town Mag is evil so much I will say lych me tomorrow if i am wrong.
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Good point, I didn't catch that justification but looking at the context of when and how it was said and what he claimed afterwards it's contradicting what he is saying now.
The thing is that he could say this was still under the guise of trying to hide his role of being a Mason Assassin. Of course he would know for sure that Rizzo is scum if he really is a town Mason Assassin but he would not openly claim he knows when he's still trying to hide how he got this knowledge.
The way he played doesn't really make sense in the context of a scum faction. That'd leave him as a neutral role which he did claim earlier. He switched to claiming town now but I'm not convinced with the claim to be honest. What I do think believable is that his role or win con has to do with the Rizzo. Otherwise he would not have jumped into that discussion with Kenny when he mentioned Rizzo.
I don't see why a jester would know of the Rizzos though. That doesn't make sense.
Mayor he is not nut think about it his role claim is fake he said he kills Rizzo at night then what does he do try to vote up the one person he claims is rizzo. I unvoted him because I wanted him to prove it. A true MV that can kill a Rizzo as he claimed would not vote the one person that can prove his hard claim.
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Sure, I already said I don't buy his role claim. This doesn't make Kenny town though or Mago 100% scum.
1. We need more info so let's pressure whoever we can 2. Both players are scummy in their own ways 3. Since this is a hidden setup we cannot know what will happen in the night and thus even if Mago were Mason Assassin and Kenny were a Rizzo member it's not guaranteed that Mago would be able to kill Kenny with his abilities. Scenarios like a witch in the game or a night kill immune scum role would mess with it. This makes Mago's eagerness to lynch Kenny not so unbelievable.
Mayor I am spelling it out for you If you dont believe me Lych me when town sees i am town lych mayor d2 for being evil
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Sorry but when all the reads are there it is hard not to pass it up. I was laid back in last game and did not follow my reads and town lost. I honestly read Kenny as town. not scum I am still unsure about MM. I noticed when all votes where on Mag there was not hard push yet there could have been.
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I'm going off for today. ping me and if you're lucky I may be around. good day
Honestly don't lynch Mag or me then and give him a night to try killing me. His claim is shit, I am town, I am not Rizzo and the rizzo family is aligned with the town.
Mag is really acting like jester lol
-unvote
Why the fuck would a mason leader even claim neut and first pretend his enemy doesn't exist
I mean just scroll up a bit. I mentioned Rizzo in the first place and Mag didn't even know what I was talking about
And like that
-vote Light_Yagami
Mp other scumread.
Your reads are too tunneled and your behaviour is more fitting for an end of day push, not this early into Day 1. The push was hard enough to get Mag to claim despite not many people being around and it got Mag to commit to the claim even so he can't go back from that one. Now it's time to consider the other side of the dispute and I don't like how Kenny softed knowledge of or involvement with the Rizzo and gave nothing else of importance. This is far from the clear cut scenario you're making it out to be.
I have one theory that seems most likely to me currently that'd make Mag a certain neutral role in my head and I'm not willing to share it yet. But please don't fill the thread with demands to get everyone to pile on Mag, we have plenty of time in the day and not enough information for now.
@NoctiZ are you just gonna sit back and watch from the mayor seat? Do you know anything about possible crime families here? I'd usually expect a mayor to know at least something about his town.
I got concrete information that the rizzo family exists and is town aligned, just like I am.
And I still think it's fishy you brought up Rizzo and no one else besides Mag is claiming knowledge of them. Why were you even trying to fish claims out of Mag by bringing up some Marchesi guy and the Rizzo?
Or did I miss something when I was quickly catching up? Is anyone else claiming to atleast know about the existence of Rizzo besides Kenny and Mag? If so please speak up and correct me if I'm wrong.
OK I have rizzos in my role cards also as good alined with town Ie why I knew Mag is evil and scum
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Yes i agree with Kenny he is town and he is right the Rizzo's are good alined with town. now Mayor you dont know that or you are corrupt and are hiding it.
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Ok I'd like to know now who does know something about Marchesi to be honest. I didn't expect Noctiz to not know that name.
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Alright, it doesn't help you two's case that I pegged you both as possible scum team even before Mike coming out with this info of knowing about Rizzo as well. If more people confirm the same though then that'll help your credibility a lot.
What I don't understand: From some people it sounds like they aren't sure what their alignment is or about other details of their role card. Was that not spelled out for all of you in your role card? For me it very clearly tells me my alignment and there's no second guessing myself. Like Mag saying he thought he was scum until he reread his card seems weird to me now that I saw the post where he said that again. But SB16 also seems to not be sure about a few things in his role card so I'm a bit confused here.
We need to Kill all them for Killing our Children and Mag is one of them I say Kill Marchesi Crime Family since they are killing out poor poor Children. Or we going to allow this Corrupt Mayor getting pay by the crime family to Let Mag live??
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