
Originally Posted by
yzb25
glhf
u2

Originally Posted by
yzb25
It goes without saying a lynch needs to happen today. By host meta, there'll probably be at least one player who's interpreted as "fairly experienced" on the scumteam for the sake of "balance". To my knowledge, players falling under that category are:
-me
-PTB
-Distorted
-MM
Soooo
-vote PowersThatBe
To my knowledge, the other 3 players don't have many scum games.
The goal of this was... pressuring the experienced? I'd like to know the exact goal tbh
@
yzb25
(btw I don't see this as a tell of anything)

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yzb25
Have you got any thoughts that might advance the game, turnip?

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yzb25
At the start of Cold War you posted a few shitposts then you were like "omg no the shitposty atmosphere is helping scum" then actually contributed.
Can I expect the same now or nah?

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yzb25
Hmmm
I think it depends on whether sheriff believes he has enough rep to win a CC war on day 2. If sheriff thinks he can rely on his natural townyness to win a CC war, he certainly shouldn't bother claiming on day 1. He can get all the same benefits PTB mentioned and a lead on day 2 by claiming day 2.
If sheriff is hopeless a day 1 claim may be viable LOL
If sheriff is hopeless and claims D1, wouldn't the scum just eat him right away lol?

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yzb25
That said, towns generally win CC wars unless they're truly hopeless, because they generally claim first and winning against someone who is 100% sure they're right is hard for scum. CC wars are a dumb strat.
So I don't think sheriff has much to gain from claiming day 1 tbh
Wait I didn't read it correctly... Wtf, this means that since CC wars make scum lose, Sheriff shouldn't claim D1? According to your logic, sheriff
should claim D1... unless ur scum

Originally Posted by
yzb25
LOL. We can certainly agree it would be a trash play for a citi to do that in a setup like this. Or for people to even be open to the idea. It just gives scums ways to flipflop on roles and get away with it.
yep

Originally Posted by
yzb25
I'm interpreting this as a shitpost, and advise everyone else to.
Because claims like this just draw a reaction out of the real TPRs and help the mafia find them.

Originally Posted by
yzb25
NO.
If you want to take the night kill hit, play well and force mafia to come for you. This is silly and gives the mafia layers of WIFOM bs.
Also, you never responded to my vote. My reasoning may be dumb, but if you plan to gloss over all other confrontations you're basically avoiding letting us read you.
Confronts Mike

Originally Posted by
yzb25
I think you meant what I edited. If so, I completely agree.

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yzb25
lul. The chain of reasoning that goes "well this read is clearly desperate and lacking in solid reasons" can be applied to the first 100 posts of every game, but I don't see you lurking until post 100. Are you just hear to chat about setup spec? :P

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yzb25
Lul.

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yzb25
I just had some fanfic inspiration hit me, but I don't wanna derail the thread when things are semi-game-relevant LOL

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yzb25
Why do you vote me?

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yzb25
Also, MM gets automatic scumpoints for not being the majority of the first 40 posts of the game. He's probably sobbing about rolling scum again after getting his ass handed to him alongside me in Cold War LOL
........ lol?

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yzb25
You seem semi-committed to actually voting Distorted. It doesn't just seem like a shitpost any more.
Any reason to vote Distorted?
Pushes mag for voting Distorted....???

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yzb25
Forum format is quite different. Especially in a setup like this where things are, literally, super basic. The focus is less on gamebreaking strategies and more on trying to use psychology and stuff to try and read people.

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yzb25
I was asking semi seriously, fam -
_________________________
Same to you.

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yzb25
Do you have any thoughts about anyone here?
Obviously, we're only 65 posts in, so we're not expecting anything nuts. Just first impressions to share your thought process?

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yzb25
What a depressingly boring reply
You could have at least pulled something our your ass like:
"My horoscope told me the squirrel closest to me will betray me this month!"
Or something :/
I can't stop laughing at that one :P

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yzb25
Why? Do I seem manipulative? Or like I'm trying to misrep people?
What about PTB?
That was not intentional. Just to be clear, you're talking about this post:
I was asking you to respond to that more seriously >.<
YES.

Originally Posted by
yzb25
Alright, this'll be my last post before I go off (unless I get bored and post again). It's a little weird neither Mag or PTB asked for my opinion on them directly. If someone is pressing you to contribute and stuff, the natural response for me is "well you contribute too, you hypocrite!"
PTB's recent post about my typo feels like a forced reason to scumread me, but I guess we're all grappling at this point. It felt more like shade cuz he left without pushing me more for info tho.
Mago just seems to be holding his cards to his chest but he may just be struggling to find a sense of purpose in the setup. But generally he's a melting pot of reads and should be able to write like 50 reads about what's been said so far. I certainly don't want cold war, but this is a bit much.
Obviously though I've been deliberately trying to find reasons to hate them to get the game started so idk the extent to which my reads come from a tunnel. I'll update this in the morning after sleeping on it.
Mike feels towny. Given that at this point I've made like 20 posts but most of them lack actual sincere thoughts, I can imagine why someone would have a read against me, especially if they're new and they don't understand you sorta have to act like that to get the game going. I wanna know why he dislikes PTB, though. I often misattribute townreads to noobs (probably sympathy or something idk) so I wanna hear more of his thought process to check he ain't fuckin me around.
yh

Originally Posted by
yzb25
omg idk how I managed to just not read his post. The quoted reason is that I placed a random vote, it's got nothing to do with the sincerity of his posts.
That's less towny, but meh.

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yzb25
I need to get a life... and stop making major typos XD

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yzb25
The reasons are more important than the conclusions, because we can't read you without that, nor can you convince anyone to agree with you.

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yzb25
I've already talked about Mago. I still dislike him. Take this post:
He essentially broadcasted his strategy for reading you before you posted. That would be like me appending the end of post 2 with "I'm going to choose to be a dick to PTB because I reckon I can get a good reaction out of him if I'm unreasonable enough". If you give away how you plan to read people, you make them self aware - then they definitely won't fall into your traps.
It'd be especially bad if you turn out to be scum, because he basically just gave you advice on how to look towny.
I want him to like, actually give proper reads rather than sitting on the sidelines like he is right now. Here
-vote Magoroth
He really needs to give more thoughts.
Are you scumpainting the fact that Mag and PTB have personal grudges lol?

Originally Posted by
yzb25
FTR, I'm sort of glossing over the posts about setup strat. I think scum can easily write pro-town setup strat posts. It just requires you to be logical.

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yzb25
just give some reads with one-liner explanations while you've got a bit of time

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yzb25
I appreciate you expanding on your reasoning for townreading MM, btw. Please keep giving thoughts!

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yzb25
I'd be inclined to agree with the MM townread. His posts feel a bit less... contrived... than I recall in Cold War. But I really oughta go back and skim through Cold War to jog my memory.

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yzb25
NO. PMs are a huge nono!
As well as any form of OGC.

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yzb25
If we lynch a town and a town dies at night, then mislynching on day 2 will make us lose.
However, the same can be said of if we don't lynch - even if we don't lynch, mislynching on day 2 will still make us lose.
So, either way, we'll be desperate by day 2. So we should just lynch day 1 so we get an extra guess at who the scum is.

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yzb25

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yzb25
:3
I have a feeling we're going to have lots of fun together ^^

Originally Posted by
yzb25
If I understand correctly, you scumread me for being the first vote. Is this a trend you've found by taking stats? What about if I happened to not be the first person on and MM or Mago cast their votes? Or do scums tend to come on first, anyway?
Or is it the fact I voted before anyone had even said anything?
I just wanna understand the process here. To me, in the early part of the day, the vote is just something used to draw attention, rather than actually start a lynch train. This is just the meta I'm used to.
Yeah I agree that those reasons are slightly bogus...

Originally Posted by
yzb25
I concede that the 2nd point is kinda lame, on reflection. But the first point still holds weight.
"Lions care not for the opinions of sheep." isn't really a counter-argument
Regardless, it was nice of you to write any response given the pressure on you seems to have eased. You probably could have ignored my read and gotten away with it.
Hopefully now you're less busy I'll have more to go off than cheap scraps and horoscope-tier reads.
As I said, that's not WvW, and I doubt it's TvT.

Originally Posted by
yzb25
MM already commented on this, but I feel the need to reiterate. It's weak af to make this the only contribution after 10 pages. It's easy to write a pity-party post like this.
@
MaGa
roth
You regard the debate between me and PTB as alignment indicative, but you haven't really made any comments on it. The same with PTB's strategy suggestion. Those topics seem to be dying down now, so if you have thoughts on it now is the time to share.
Hits back on mag

Originally Posted by
yzb25
I mean, for townread Mike to scumread me is one thing, but for townread MM to scumread me is kinda next level. I'll have to do some self reflection on what's causing that, because I thought I was doing a decent job

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If people think I'm "over-emphasizing my pro-townyness", it may be because I used to get mislynched a lot as town so I kinda overemphasize my intentions at times(?) It's not something I'm fully self-aware of, but I definitely used to explain myself less.
Anyway, I'll read through the posts again and give an updated read list. I'll try my best not to be the town liability, anyway lol.
Whatever your alignment is, you're doing a good job, honestly.

Originally Posted by
yzb25
Upon a little more thought, I've probably puked enough thoughts lol. I'll respond to what people ping me for, and spend the rest of my time reading posts and trying to develop reads. Even if I do get lynched, hopefully I can give y'all something cute before I leave and enjoy having next week off!
I guess a scum could fake advocating for a worse strat so they're not obligated to comply with the better strat, but it's kind of obvious when someone is clinging to a point they know is dumb.
Yeah lol we would notice it immediatly.
SO. This "case" led me to townread him a bit more than I was previously, honestly. I am really unsure. I still don't like the resistance to his train compared to the ease with which PTB got to L-2 and L-1, but he doesn't have many things that stand up as scummy, and nothing really inhernetly scummy....
