Current Wagonomics for my sake:
Kenny (3 [L-2]):
blinkskater, Magoroth, Gyrlander
Varnic (1 [L-4]):
AIVION
blinkskater (1 [L-4]):
Kenny
aamirus (1 [L-4]):
Marshmallow Marshall
Marshmallow Marshall (2 [L-3]):
aamirus, Varnic
I'd like people to state who they're voting and why to help me out as I try to read this best I can. (I can say my vote on Varnic was way back when I felt his one post and nothing else was particularly shifty when we were just then generating discussion).
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
I think MM's playstyle is completely off:
@Marshmallow Marshall He did not flinch at 2 ppl being put to L-1 (he himself put kenny to L-1, moved it shortly after though) he is not analyzing the setup like he usually does, he is not pressing against people for the roleclaims first few hours of the game, he himself even claimed a role which is odd asf since he usually yells at people in big caps. He just does not seem like he is playing as MM plays, at all.
-@magoroth Mag is not playing his usual self either. he is usually ALL OVER THE PLACE, and a top poster by far due to it. he is usually throwing votes around like crazy and changing his mind when he does anything every few seconds. this is completely consistent every game he has played (havnt seen him scum yet). so seeing him more laid back and confident is completely out of character for him.
those are my 2 biggest scum reads.
@Kenny is coming off mixing stuff up, opportunistic of trying to keep focus off him to ANYONE else, and isnt forming good reasons on pushes or lynches.
@Varnic asked to be lynched when he found out how much reading this game implies. not sure if it was a noob WIFOM move, or he wanted to replace out or not keep up, but either way that slot will end up getting modkilled or replaced by tonight anyways. but due to his reaction its kinda towny? dunno new scum would probably try to fake more and wouldent ask to be lynched.
@aamirus back and forth here but scum lean, just not really any scum hunting coming from her, and if kenny flips town i think she will be the next push. if kenny flips town i think MM/aamirus/mag need to be lynched back to back honestly. hell im even thinking kenny is getting scapegoated, becuase the last scum would have to be between @AIVION , @Varnic @Marshmallow Marshall is possible
Can I throw something at you for using meta reads to Lynch someone after this? I'm a bit hypocritical bc my read on MM is pretty much a gut read LOL. But my acting 'out of character' isn't true because you've seen me play on narrator and I SPECIFICALLY stated I was aching to try out this new play style in FM. This is mostly something that is supposed to convince you that I am town because it's very conjectural. Also, you have seen me play this way as town on narrator as well, and we wanted to Lynch each other at one point lol
Alright.
1.) I personally suck at reading MM, I think that's apparent during the last FM game i played since he was Scum and I was town-reading him HARD. I'll take your Meta analysis of him at face value as I continue to catch up as I find his potential Role Claim a bit off putting. (Oh wow he was put to L-1 and put someone else to L-1? That sounds rather strange.. I hope I get to that part here soon).
2.) I felt a bit of a scum vibe from what I've read before with how defensive his stance was, will keep what you say here in mind as I read on.
3.) Oh yea, I sincerely didn't like Kenny back then with his flimsy Read list and refusal to discuss his thoughts... I also questioned his scum hunting techniques as well, seemed sort of lazy to me.
4.) Oh so the guy did speak? I'll have to see what you mean.
5.) I have no real reads on this slot myself, only a small influential one as PTB claimed escort for the slot before he brazenly Replaced out.
Thanks for the input.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Back to reading as best as I can.. even though my eyes are watering up..
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
@Gyrlander
I am here, you wanted to discuss something with me...?
I see you online, you damn Cat Empress you.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
aite i'm caught up... that was painfull to read, but I seem to have a good feel on all of the players in here atm. No way in hell would I not lynch kenny today, He is playing to a TEE how he did as scum in the Digimon FM.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
I'd like your analysis on Kenny then, especially since you're using meta of a game that I'm not familiar with.
-how did he act in that game in comparison to this game?
-Would you say it's his normal scum play?
I ask since I have no real meta analysis for anyone here, really.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
I also don't believe that aamirus is scum, I saw her and distorted bickering as two strong willed people arguing for the sake to argue TVT IMO. Kenny VS Mag situation was painfull to read every time I had to read something kenny wrote. MM is way off, but he could be switching up his style who knows, MAG is also off and could be doing the same thing MM is doing, Gyr and Aivion are probally good mafia targets to kill tbh for their lack of usefullness. I do believe there is illuminati in this save, Naz is our host and just look at her avatar, she wants to see us suffer and squirm and writher in pain as much as possible. No doubt in my mind we are dealing with the illuminati here. Distorted is our little love child atm, I do see him making that play as illuminati day one however he's done a lot for the town today and deserves to be here.
He came at ME the exact same way he's done in this game, he knows I use witty little one liners a lot. He would take what I say and blatantly attack it making me seem like a scum, it's not even scumpainting it's down right making shit up and lieing, and he won't stop with it. pretty much EVERYONE scum read him too in that game, however we had Rachyl, and Efekannn who were far more scummier (it's hard to explain you would have to read the game.) who were TOWN but just posting ridcoulous stuff.
Town:
Distorted
Aamirus
Varnic
Null:
Gyrlander
Aivion
Trying a META change or scum alongside Kenny
Magoroth
Marshmallow Marshall
Scum:
Kenny
True, I feel pretty useless. At least I'm able to try to spill out some of my thoughts if I do die.
I also believe there's Illuminati, let me break it down for you:
Game 1 (I wasn't in it): It was Setup A. Quite Frankly It was a steamroll, mafia got wrecked HARD.
Game 2 (I was in it): Setup B. We lynched the Godfather Day 1 and the New godfather's kill was redirected to HIMSELF, giving Illuminati night kill access as early as Night 2. Day 2 rolls around and we continue to hunt mafia, so we lynch a guy based off of his shaky interactions with the godfather, was town citizen (Not illuminati) Day 3 rolls around the Doc claim get's shot. 3v2 the grand wizard votes a townie And it was a Mayor back then so the Infiltrator revealed and hammered the townie, thus giving Illuminati the win (The salt was real in that post-game discussion. You should definitely give it a read :P)
Game 3 (I was in it): Setup A, it was closer than Game 1, but town still won.
So game 4 is here, and if this setup was ran 3 times with 2 being A and only 1 as B (without the IC Nerf) Then I'd assume it is Setup B, and that's why I wanted discussion on what people's thoughts would be if Illuminati existed, since I suspected before the game even began that there would be Illuminati with these thoughts alone.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Idk, this game if 90% 1 v 1 fights. It's rather strange tho, if I got attacked this would be much more interesting.
Thank you Anonymous Donor
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
This is in no particular order, simply as they come to mind:
Distorted - Strong town read for me, seems to be pushing people for information. I don't buy that he's an IC, revealing as Illuminati as IC is a highly risky strategy that requires a lot of things to go well to work. It's also risky as town but it's WAY riskier as Mob. I guess when I first read him I was like "oh this guy always scum paints people early in the game" but honestly my early day posts were pretty bad so I'm not surprised I was scum painted for them.
MM - Logic says he's scum. Gut says he's town. He's been pushing for us to Illuminati hunt and whatnot but overall he's not actually acting in any Faction's interest... I'd say that he is probably playing from a Townish perspective but I'm not sure. I don't want him dead yet.
Kenny - Short, useless, fluffy posts with little content. At start trolled, and then created a dumbass gambit that gives little information, and then asked me if I was Mason/Mafia with blink. Overall seems to be town hunting, I have a very specific Illuminati read on this slot. Hopefully there's no Illuminati and he's simply Mafia.
Gyrlander - I don't really have an opinion on Gyrlander. Not much has happened. A few posts, here and there, but seemed to be coming from a townish perspective, unless she's scum with AIVION (I'm sorry idk if there are any "townish" posts that you made that weren't somehow addressed to or defending AIVION, so I may be just off with this).
AIVION - Trying to strategize, seems a lot like his town self from Lynch Fetish. I had a weird feeling about his first post on D1 but Gyrlander put that worry to rest. Overall strong town read, probably 2nd. strongest after Distorted now that I think about it.
blinkskater - Usual troll self at day start. Fairly strong, 70-80% town read, it's mostly a gut read because I can't recall many things that they did, except for the Kenny push which IMO made a lot of sense. Possible connection with Kenny but doubtful, I heavily doubt a two-man mafia team would bus. Does not seem to tunnel on me as hard as other people do, such as aamirus. I am thankful for that.
aamirus - I have her as a (weak) scum read because of PTB's first or second post, as well as his subbing out due to my 'cuntiness'. Her wanting, or stating that she was willing to hammer 8-9 hours early into. the day seemed extremely scummy given that. this setup is what it is. Some people have mentioned that she's 'discrediting' and sarcastically responding to people and that that is scummy, but I've seen them do that before and they weren't scum.
It seems there's a general consensus in lynching Kenny today. I feel like this is a strong and united TowMafia
Thank you Anonymous Donor
@Distorted what do you think about aamirus? why do you think they are scum? do you see them doing this as town too?
Towmafia...?
Also based off of what I'm reading/seeing from people's explanations on why they scumread who or what, I'm thinking either Kenny or MM Should definitely be the lynch too (I also don't think i'll ever be certain on MM Anymore, not until I can play more with him.)
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
@blinkskater what do you think about aamirus? why do you think they are town?
Thoughts: I don't like aamirus and Kenny. I'm starting to feel better about Mag. I feel like MM is not having an impact as he normally has so that gives me bad vibes. I like Dist and think his thoughts are well formed, ironically, him revealing as IC is something I do not like and has damaged my image of him. Blink is kind of I don't know about this man, it's hard for me to get a read on him.
The rest, no idea. lol.
Thank you Anonymous Donor
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.