S-FM President

[Ronald Reagan]

what? if they figured out you were escort they would have done that after the factional kill. so doesn't make sense to why they would 'intentionally' target the same person as you.

how is that an escort slip? that sounds extremely paranoid

Yeah, and beside that, if they would have figured that he is escort, why not just kill him? Imo, getting rid of a town prot is actually what scums WANT.
Maybe he think he slipped or maybe he is just trying to look townish right now.
If he is town, it's either they didn't believe him or they didn't notice it.

Lincoln is actually one of my top town read for actively trying D1. But I am not sure he is helping us right now with that discussion and by revealing.

[Ronald Reagan]

Yeah, and beside that, if they would have figured that he is escort, why not just kill him? Imo, getting rid of a town prot is actually what scums WANT.
Maybe he think he slipped or maybe he is just trying to look townish right now.
If he is town, it's either they didn't believe him or they didn't notice it.

Lincoln is actually one of my top town read for actively trying D1. But I am not sure he is helping us right now with that discussion and by revealing.

Worst than that, if he is the ONLY town prot we have, he just put a target on him for nothing.

[Abraham Lincoln]

I disagree shitposting day 1 is NAI

Promoting an atmosphere of shitposting

[Abraham Lincoln]

I Hard Claim Naztallah.

Dat buddying attempt.

[Abraham Lincoln]

After reading through it's mostly shitposts and stupid arguments the only thing I came across that I agree with is that we should not roll claim unless we're about to be voted and we need to tell the truth

Lol you just contradicted yourself. What really scares me is that both Roosevelt and Washington feel like townish, judging by their posts. Washington's actions are quite scummy, and his reads are even scummier, but I dislike this discrepancy.

[Abraham Lincoln]

I want to add that out of Washington and Roosevelt, I can very easily see Roosevelt being Turncoat, he didn't respond when I said I would elect him. So I'd sooner trust Roosevelt, IMO

[Abraham Lincoln]

Don’t bullshit yourself. I bet you never “incite everyone to be nice” to survivors in the mod as town. Otherwise you’d be able to see the pros of a survivor President here

Nixon refuting JFK, very strongly supporting Survivor - why would you that? I mean I didn't believe he really was Survivor but you did. I had my reasons to support him, namely, I thought he was a Town lying about the neutral claim. I would really, really like to know why you voted him.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Dude he was quoting your post and sarcastically calling you an idiot

The part where he said “... u serious?” Should have clued you in

Idk what to think about Nixon, posts like this one make me think he is actually town.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Nixon is becoming a nullread, I think it's more likely that Obama is scum with Washington. This is a gut read, and I need to reread the previous day to come up with anything of substance. I think I understand why Truman died now - threw town into disarray.

[Abraham Lincoln]

@Donald Trump , I see you online. Your thoughts please.

[Donald Trump]

Have you seen Efekan play before? He has a very specific meta as town. And a very different one as scum.

It is my first time using the Efekan play and im in a pretty much difficuilt situation

[Abraham Lincoln]

Let us ignore that comhunting thing, you don't need to answer to that. I apologize.

[SuperJack]

This kind of assumption is counter-productive. I believe the guy just wrote a blank lol, else I think SJ would've wrote something like "The interviewed person refused to comment", or simply nothing at all.

@SuperJack What happens if the interviewed person says nothing or refuses to comment?

It remains blank and gets posted blank.

[SuperJack]

Scum could indeed try to get elected President. There's a few problems with that tho, because PRs lose their night ability upon becoming President. Which begs the following question:

@SuperJack, can Mafioso still be sent on kill if he becomes President?

Yeh

[SuperJack]

@SuperJack

No. A presidents term ends only after death.

[George Washington]

thats why i was wanting to get everyone to show who they were voting. 1, I needed to vote for a winning president, and 2 it would be pretty obvious the mafia would help push him up for election. So just find who was voting him EoD and u can bet ur ass the other 2 mafia are in there.

Lol so when i flip town you will be fucked =)

[SuperJack]

If anyone wants to know more about COM hunting.
The rules are so that you only use what's in game to read a person. It's to exclude meta reads and meta gaming.

Now, it's understandable that some people might be easy to pick out and you might know who they are. You are supposed to ignore it, not make it part of the game.

Sure you might realise that player X is Bob, but treat them like player X, forget about bob.

Purposely using terms or constantly hinting at COM related stuff, like clans, is not allowed.

Trying to cause people to make com slips, or talking about who is who is forbidden. So is actively hunting someone down by checking post times and activity.

Just focus on the game and what posted in it ^^ If you feel targeted report it to me.

Good luck all 💓

[George Washington]

Alright, i was also interviewed last night, and wasn't able to respond due to not realizing i had a message in time. I know the identity of the interviewer, but he did NOT claim a role.

[George Washington]

Alright, i was also interviewed last night, and wasn't able to respond due to not realizing i had a message in time. I know the identity of the interviewer, but he did NOT claim a role.

I madena type not ROLE, "FACTION"

[Abraham Lincoln]

Alright, i was also interviewed last night, and wasn't able to respond due to not realizing i had a message in time. I know the identity of the interviewer, but he did NOT claim a role.

Are you allowed to post the message you received?

[George Washington]

Idk have to ask SJ that

[George Washington]

Are you allowed to post the message you received?

So you have been saying that you were sure I was Town claiming neutral thank you even went as far as to say a hundred percent sure does that still stand?

[Abraham Lincoln]

So you have been saying that you were sure I was Town claiming neutral thank you even went as far as to say a hundred percent sure does that still stand?

It does somewhat still stand, yes. But this Lynch is most likely between you and Roosevelt.

[Abraham Lincoln]

It does somewhat still stand, yes. But this Lynch is most likely between you and Roosevelt.

I think the most potent argument in Roosevelt's favour was the fact that you got elected omegalul

One other thing is that he claimed Turncoat and claims to want to Lynch you, lol I believe his claim as well but that doesn't necessarily mean you're scum

[Abraham Lincoln]

I think the most potent argument in Roosevelt's favour was the fact that you got elected omegalul

One other thing is that he claimed Turncoat and claims to want to Lynch you, lol I believe his claim as well but that doesn't necessarily mean you're scum

I think his claim is legit. I would still like to know why you didn't talk much d1

[George Washington]

There's three reasons I wanted to become president. I knew I was town so if I was President there was zero chance of Mafia becoming president.2nd I trust my ability to read people. 3rd eventually knew the real Survivor would claim, thus outing the real neutral, happens to be turncoat so if I die he is 100% siding with the mafia, which means you have a dead town president, and a survivor that you know of is siding with the mafia, which means you would have to waste a vote or a Kill to get him out of the game

[Abraham Lincoln]

-vote unvote

[Abraham Lincoln]

There's three reasons I wanted to become president. I knew I was town so if I was President there was zero chance of Mafia becoming president.2nd I trust my ability to read people. 3rd eventually knew the real Survivor would claim, thus outing the real neutral, happens to be turncoat so if I die he is 100% siding with the mafia, which means you have a dead town president, and a survivor that you know of is siding with the mafia, which means you would have to waste a vote or a Kill to get him out of the game

This sounds reasonable.

[George Washington]

I was extremley busy and couldnt follow the game i just re read the entire game during the night.

[Abraham Lincoln]

I was extremley busy and couldnt follow the game i just re read the entire game during the night.

Lol I can believe that. Who do you think is scum?

[Barack Obama]

Wonder who is going to believe @George Washington when he claims a town role that was trying to bait out the neutral.

I claim Turncoat

2/2 games so far the mafia has tried to bait out the neutral, not a town. He even let that charade ride the entire time =P having the neutral singled out benefits the MAFIA because it allows them to know who NOT to kill. Town is best to let the neutral be, since it allows mafia to fuck up and waste a night.

anyways, im sure he will fast hammer Nixon since u guys have him on L-3

what the shit

[Abraham Lincoln]

what the shit

Didn't you use to think he was a sponsor?

[Barack Obama]

nope nope nope i am not liking this

[George Washington]

Well there are 3 TPR claims out there right now and (1 being either the journalist/corrupt journalist, i believe one of thise claims to possibly be a scum.

[Barack Obama]

Didn't you use to think he was a sponsor?

Probably? It’s way early morning and I’m standing in a line right now. Only posting because I got nothing else to do

Back to reading!

[Abraham Lincoln]

Dude he was quoting your post and sarcastically calling you an idiot

The part where he said “... u serious?” Should have clued you in

Well there are 3 TPR claims out there right now and (1 being either the journalist/corrupt journalist, i believe one of thise claims to possibly be a scum.

Are you telling me the Journalist revealed himself to you? Who could that be lol

[Bill Clinton]

Well, I noticed my vote is not that usefull :

Donald Trump (2 [L-4]):
Abraham Lincoln, Barack Obama
Richard Nixon (2 [L-4]):
John Kennedy, Ronald Reagan

That just put two people at L-4.

President vote counts for 3 right? Then putting someone at L-4 is almost like putting them at L-1

[George Washington]

what the shit

Teddy just fucked himself over IMO, not a smart turncoat play

[George Washington]

President vote counts for 3 right? Then putting someone at L-4 is almost like putting them at L-1

I will only be hammering teddy if he is placed at L3. Nobody else.

[Abraham Lincoln]

President vote counts for 3 right? Then putting someone at L-4 is almost like putting them at L-1

Quite possibly it could spell a death sentence is scum were mad enough to hammer lmao

[Abraham Lincoln]

lol this is utter bullshit though ...... I really don't like the fact that this Lynch is between Roosevelt and Washington

[George Washington]

Are you telling me the Journalist revealed himself to you? Who could that be lol

Yes they did.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Yes they did.

So the scum is me, Clinton or the Journalist?

[George Washington]

So the scum is me, Clinton or the Journalist?

I would say there is possibly one scum in there yes

[Bill Clinton]

I missed Roosevelt's claim.

-unvote

I think best option is for @Bill Clinton to kill the president no? Mitigate risk of 'claimed' neutral? checking disguiser gambit possibility.

Actively thinking rn.

We have all day and maybe night for me to shoot.
My vote was on Truman yesterday and then i realized it was actually like American politics and I had to pick between the two main parties, so I voted Bama

[Bill Clinton]

I don't understand the connexion between you roleblocking Truman and scums killing him.
Can you explain that?
Or is that a way to look townish 'hey, I roleblocked Truman, so I can't be scum'?

Honestly reading the beginning of the day, it seemed like Truman was bus driven and Lincoln is trying to out the BD (because he is a confused scum?)

[Abraham Lincoln]

I would say there is possibly one scum in there yes

Since you've already claimed, could you tell us your role?

[Barack Obama]

Ah, getting back home after a long time working to go to a meeting with tons of presidents over three centuries. That's the american dream. Time to read

What kind of dreams do you have?

I agree with Reagan there. The big strategy & info post should be looked at as a summary of the past day, honestly.

@Barack Obama I expect you to give your reads and thoughts on the game. I believe you're the kind of guy that would, as town, look into things deep and think Truman was TPR, as I did.

P.S. No this is not a scum slip, I didn't kill Truman, so don't even think about it, SCUMS.

Acknowledged. This is a phone post, so I’ll give you some updated reads later, probably after rereading.

Well, the fact that I know his meta because of the number of meta posts that were made in the game make me think he's town... And I'm kinda angry because I really wanted to leave meta out of there. But he seems quite insecure, and as I said, he is not in the mindset of a scum for that. And I don't believe it was faked.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

In case of hypocrisy, bang head here
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Every vote counts! If everyone says that, noone will ever start anything and FM wouldn't exist. Mafia concept neither tbh.

You clearly haven’t played 30 man FM. L-15 is absurd and hard to work around.

Abraham Lincoln - 281

John Kennedy - 251

Theodore Roosevelt - 132


Richard Nixon - 115

George Washington - 84

Bill Clinton - 76

Harry Truman - 72

Donald Trump - 49

Ronald Reagan- 48

SuperJack - 19

George Bush - 17

Thomas Jefferson - 13

Did you leave me out

I pushed for him the hardest, I think Nixon also did, dunno who else.

I kind of soft-pushed there. It probably looks really scummy.

There are other (superior) ways of showing everyone's preferences and interests. It's call a suspicion ranking list.

Anywho.

Notes:
Not that I currently read Lincoln as scum, I initially thought the slot saying 'they'd push truman today' seemed fake.

Already said, but just reiterating: why are people worried about a turbo lynch happening. I'd be ecstatic if a scummy turbo lynch happened bc all 3 scums would be on it. Too bad that never happens because scum aren't dumb enough to do that.

@John Kennedy , I'll skim your posts if you keep doing a whole bunch of mini posts. It's spam and doesn't really tell people your thoughts concisely and in an organized manner. Presentation is important. Also, saying we're going to 'pressure' someone and then say 'pressure' someone else seems counter intuitive to me. If you like the target, stick with it.

Suspicion ranking list:
Roosevelt
JFK
Lincoln
Clinton

Thomas Jefferson
Trump
Obama

Regan
Nixon

Consider anyone I forgt as scum/null.

Also, Nixon's team killed Truman bc Truman scum read Nixon. I'd be v interested to test this theory, and seperately scum read Nixon anyway. Too bad I can't have been the one to lead it.

-vote Richard Nixon

Also

I REQUIRE EVERYONE'S STATEMENT OF WHO THEY VOTED YESTERDAY. nOW.

I'll continue scum hunting how people expect me to scum hunt.

But, do not push back on my question and don't make this an issue in day chat. It doesn't need to be. Just give me the information I want. There's literally no reason you should be keeping this secret except that you're scum. Seriously, there shouldn't be any discussion. Any questioning and push back only creates the drama you're going to try and scum paint me for.

So don't do it if you're town.

I ended up voting myself.

Since I believe I slipped that I am Escort, I am going to hardclaim it. I blocked Truman last night.

The law is inside out, the world is upside down!

I slipped yesterday that I was Escort and I didn't even realize it. I asked who got sent on kill, FML. I think Truman would still be alive if I hadn't asked that question.

I think you are seriously over analyzing the mafia kill. Which is a very towny thing to do.

Stop doing it.

Promoting an atmosphere of shitposting

Disagree.

Dat buddying attempt.

confused.jpg

[Barack Obama]

Honestly reading the beginning of the day, it seemed like Truman was bus driven and Lincoln is trying to out the BD (because he is a confused scum?)

Screeeeee

[Barack Obama]

Lincoln, care to do me a favor?