S-FM President

[Abraham Lincoln]

waow, my first town read. I'll follow you for now

-vote Barack Obama

For president.

Lmao that avatar

[Theodore Roosevelt]

I said you scum painted me for asking questions about how the voting works, and someone else said they were too (Nixon/Regan the one with the color in the avatar), and someone else asked where, so I found the post. That's why its brought up and you're having to defend your scumpaint.

No, I questioned a possible reason behind the timing of your response. How you view that as scum painting i dunno lol it struck me as odd so i commented on it.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Rarely is the questioned asked: is our children learning?

@George Bush

[Theodore Roosevelt]

waow, my first town read. I'll follow you for now

-vote Barack Obama

For president.

im voting washignton for president.... =( your vote has the right to be cast on whom u believe is fit, but I feel obama is a high chance of scum

[Abraham Lincoln]

I just realized something, the mafia probably don't have more than one bruiser, because otherwise they would've egged Clinton on to shoot someone

[Theodore Roosevelt]

I just realized something, the mafia probably don't have more than one bruiser, because otherwise they would've egged Clinton on to shoot someone

some1 earlier tried to, they said to shoot the survivor.

[Abraham Lincoln]

I just realized something, the mafia probably don't have more than one bruiser, because otherwise they would've egged Clinton on to shoot someone

It would be a risky strategy, but it could pay for them in the long run.

[Abraham Lincoln]

some1 earlier tried to, they said to shoot the survivor.

Who? I didn't notice that

[George Bush]

Who? I didn't notice that

me.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Who? I didn't notice that

That kind of changes the landscape a little

[Theodore Roosevelt]

Oh boy, i LOVE citizens outing themselves to avoid the mafia bullet.

Why isn't the town assassin killing the neutral. It's totally avoids the possibility of Turncoat fucking us over. This should be done day 1.

@Abraham Lincoln

[George Bush]

im voting washignton for president.... =( your vote has the right to be cast on whom u believe is fit, but I feel obama is a high chance of scum

If people are playing optimally, we don't need to vote washington for president. We know he's survivor, and if he ends up not being neutral, he gets lynched.

[Abraham Lincoln]

But that is a little too general :P it could be a town voicing disappointment in the survivor, though I doubt it. Still it's not fully Alignment indicative, it only corroborates a scum read on someone.

[Abraham Lincoln]

@Abraham Lincoln

Am I the only one who finds both of these sentences quite scummy?

[George Bush]

@Abraham Lincoln

i meeeeaaannn, lincoln literally did interact with that post.

[Abraham Lincoln]

i meeeeaaannn, lincoln literally did interact with that post.

I had a brain fart ^^

[Theodore Roosevelt]

i meeeeaaannn, lincoln literally did interact with that post.

lol that is true.


anyways, I gtg for a bit, I will be back probably after EoD - ill try to check in before but I wont be caught up.

[John Kennedy]

Helloooooooooooooooooooooooo time to read! Also welcome Bush!

[George Bush]

So friendly. welcome to my town reads.

[John Kennedy]

Don’t bullshit yourself. I bet you never “incite everyone to be nice” to survivors in the mod as town. Otherwise you’d be able to see the pros of a survivor President here

Not anymore, but in my young Mafia days, yes. And I just said I don't do it anymore because IT DOES NOT WORK, or it's a roulette game about if the survivor will backstab or not. But did you read what I said about the votes not being able to stop betrayal if surv is president?

[John Kennedy]

I find it comical that JFK keeps insisting that I am going to betray town.

You already betrayed England.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Not anymore, but in my young Mafia days, yes. And I just said I don't do it anymore because IT DOES NOT WORK, or it's a roulette game about if the survivor will backstab or not. But did you read what I said about the votes not being able to stop betrayal if surv is president?

We have a claimed town assassin who could easily put him out of his misery, and it bypasses protection too. The survivor won't need a protective role because he has vests, so only the Assassin claim would need to be protected.

[John Kennedy]

Should I shoot Roosevelt?

@Bill Clinton I would tend to agree, but not today. Terrible idea to kill him without leaving him a chance to defend lol. However, Washingmachine... I'm in favor of killing that guy lol. We don't need a survivor, and he draws WAY TOO MUCH attention. We are lacking scumhunting atm. If he dies, we'll be fixed and we'll have another president

[Abraham Lincoln]

@Bill Clinton I would tend to agree, but not today. Terrible idea to kill him without leaving him a chance to defend lol. However, Washingmachine... I'm in favor of killing that guy lol. We don't need a survivor, and he draws WAY TOO MUCH attention. We are lacking scumhunting atm. If he dies, we'll be fixed and we'll have another president

Shoot Washington and I will Lynch you tomorrow, no questions asked.

[John Kennedy]

We have a claimed town assassin who could easily put him out of his misery, and it bypasses protection too. The survivor won't need a protective role because he has vests, so only the Assassin claim would need to be protected.

OH WAIT. IGNORE MY LAST POST @Bill Clinton YOOOOOUUU AAAREEEE A GENEIUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

@George Washington I am no longer pushing against your election. But my vote still goes to obama (I already replied to SJ's pm anyway lol).

[Abraham Lincoln]

What the fuck, stop pushing for the Assassin to kill people, what if he's wrong? More pressingly, what if he is wrong and the mafia have a few bruisers themselves?

[John Kennedy]

He soft claimed a few roles at the very beginning of the game 'Duel me' 'You were assassinated, you are weak'

I think you're paranoid :P

[John Kennedy]

What the fuck, stop pushing for the Assassin to kill people, what if he's wrong? More pressingly, what if he is wrong and the mafia have a few bruisers themselves?

I'm not? I just agreed with your plan lol. If the President Survivor starts bullshiting us, just assassin daykill him that fixes it, we gain a night immune town that is forced to work with us.

[Abraham Lincoln]

I'm not? I just agreed with your plan lol. If the President Survivor starts bullshiting us, just assassin daykill him that fixes it, we gain a night immune town that is forced to work with us.

Oh. I thought you were egging him on to kill Roosevelt, my bad.

[John Kennedy]

Oh. I thought you were egging him on to kill Roosevelt, my bad.

Lol I suspect Roosevelt but I don't want him to die from a kill on D1/N1 by a town... I don't suspect him enough for assassin to waste his kill that ensures us we can elect the neutral ^^

[John Kennedy]

I caught up, and uhm... Idk, bush is a null-slight-townish read... Meeeeeh. I townread Jefferson more.

P.S. When I say Thomas Jefferson name, I misread it as Thomas Edison. And I was like "Wtf, that guy wasn't president..." oops.

[Barack Obama]

what day is this?

Welcome!

No, elect me over Obama anytime. even Donald Trump would be a better choice

I'll be submitting my vote towards Washington. Nothing here has convinced me otherwise.

[Harry Truman]

Any town that is pushing for Washington as pres is

A) Overestimating the coordination that the town has. A scumsiding neutral could easily go unnoticed or a mis lynch could happen on their first day, which will inevitably cause the town to lose

B) Assuming that there are no mafia PR’s, like tailor, bruiser, etc. that can mess with the town’s perception on the day 2 lynch. Mafia can even have methods to contact the neutral (e.g. journalist)

Washington as our first president isn’t beneficial to anyone, maybe not even himself.

[Harry Truman]

Washington as our first president isn’t beneficial to anyone, maybe not even himself.

anyone but the mafia, i mean. but that goes without saying probably

[Abraham Lincoln]

G'd night. I sent my PM to the host, but I'm tired as hell. I think I'll skip EoD, sorry folks.

[Harry Truman]

Party president is back, observing the waves from his hotel balcony.

EVERYONE who shows up in between now and EoD needs to vote Obama if we want the town to have a much better chance at a win.

Reminder that at this stage of the game, a neutral president is VERY LIKELY worse for the town than a mafia president is. Compulsion to vote for the claimed neutral (who could also be Mafia) makes little sense from a town perspective compared to someone who MAY be town.

Keep washington alive, but let the town have the chance to get some scum first. vote OBAMA
(since he's pretty much the town's only opportunity)
(for the record, I would still vote Kennedy if he had a chance)

[John Kennedy]

We have a claimed town assassin who could easily put him out of his misery, and it bypasses protection too. The survivor won't need a protective role because he has vests, so only the Assassin claim would need to be protected.

@Harry Truman I didn't think of this... now it fixes the problem, because if he attempts to betray us we just murder him and he loses ^^ protective role goes on assassin.

[John Kennedy]

Party president is back, observing the waves from his hotel balcony.

EVERYONE who shows up in between now and EoD needs to vote Obama if we want the town to have a much better chance at a win.

Reminder that at this stage of the game, a neutral president is VERY LIKELY worse for the town than a mafia president is. Compulsion to vote for the claimed neutral (who could also be Mafia) makes little sense from a town perspective compared to someone who MAY be town.

Keep washington alive, but let the town have the chance to get some scum first. vote OBAMA
(since he's pretty much the town's only opportunity)
(for the record, I would still vote Kennedy if he had a chance)

MAY is the key word here. Because if we vote a scum, it's kinda bad lol. Voting the survivor while having assassin is the key.

[Bill Clinton]

OH WAIT. IGNORE MY LAST POST @Bill Clinton YOOOOOUUU AAAREEEE A GENEIUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

@George Washington I am no longer pushing against your election. But my vote still goes to obama (I already replied to SJ's pm anyway lol).

No duh I'm a genius lol only took you all day to catch on.
So anyway doc/bg on me, thanks.

Also I wouldn't waste my bullet on a neutral, we can lynch him ez :P

[John Kennedy]

No duh I'm a genius lol only took you all day to catch on.
So anyway doc/bg on me, thanks.

Also I wouldn't waste my bullet on a neutral, we can lynch him ez :P

If he's president? Nope. If he turns against us just daykill him. Else I'm PMing SJ I'm voting obama again.

[John Kennedy]

If he's president? Nope. If he turns against us just daykill him. Else I'm PMing SJ I'm voting obama again.

Err forget this I already PM'd that lol

[Harry Truman]

@Harry Truman I didn't think of this... now it fixes the problem, because if he attempts to betray us we just murder him and he loses ^^ protective role goes on assassin.

It's a strong assumption that both Clinton is really an assassin and that he's not a mafia-aligned assassin. We can't rely on that. If he's a bruiser, then that alone basically guarantees a scum win with a neutral president, let alone if the Mafia has other good roles for the situation.

[John Kennedy]

It's a strong assumption that both Clinton is really an assassin and that he's not a mafia-aligned assassin. We can't rely on that. If he's a bruiser, then that alone basically guarantees a scum win with a neutral president, let alone if the Mafia has other good roles for the situation.

If he's a Bruiser, he really suicided, it's way too ballsy.

[Harry Truman]

If he's a Bruiser, he really suicided, it's way too ballsy.

Suicided? With a high possibility of a neutral president it's not even close to suicide.

3 mafia, 8 town, 1 neutral.
IF N1 GOES FAVORABLY. We're reasonably looking at 3 mafia, 7 town, 1 neutral for day 2.
Say bruiser shoots ANY town, even if it's not a PR. 3 mafia, 6 town, 1 neutral. Mafia has 6 votes, Town has 6 votes. Potentially letting mafia having easy control of the daytime is the opposite of what the town wants.

[Thomas Jefferson]

Good evening, and welcome the distinguished Dubya'. I have just finished my all American meal of homsetyle corn and pork my wife Martha prepared. I hope my colleagues are fairing well in this tense time for the future of our nation. We face a fork in the road, as they say. Shall we place our bets on a "confirmed" neutral that just happens to have that title because of a lack of counters, that if town reaps slight to negligible rewards, and if revealed sinister spells a slight disadvantage to our cause? Or will we place our bets on a "confirmed" town based on what can only be described as "gut feelings?" If only impeachment were possible, then a possible corrupt president could be heeded. Personally, I believe a man like Trump could have been a fine leader, and breathe a sense of courage into this establishment- however it is too late for such a sentiment. So, for the time being, I have placed my vote on Barack Obama.

The chances of me being present for the end of this fine day are slim as I have many errands to attend to.
Thank you and have a blessed evening, Jefferson.

[George Washington]

Shoot Washington and I will Lynch you tomorrow, no questions asked.

They cant kill me

[Richard Nixon]

They cant kill me

The assassin role can kill you during the day which you can’t vest from

[George Washington]

Hopefully i still have some voters, my vote counts for two, vote for me and all will b happEEEEEEE

[George Washington]

The assassin role can kill you during the day which you can’t vest from

he won't do it he's a coward

[Richard Nixon]

It's a strong assumption that both Clinton is really an assassin and that he's not a mafia-aligned assassin. We can't rely on that. If he's a bruiser, then that alone basically guarantees a scum win with a neutral president, let alone if the Mafia has other good roles for the situation.

You’re assuming there don’t exist any other town that can kill or redirect actions, which I find more likely than the survivor risking betraying the town blatantly