No scumreads really jump out at me atm a few townish reads but i've yet to really get any bad JuJu vibes, altho i feel scum arenworking some sort of plan into the mix allready but what could it be hMMMMmm
No scumreads really jump out at me atm a few townish reads but i've yet to really get any bad JuJu vibes, altho i feel scum arenworking some sort of plan into the mix allready but what could it be hMMMMmm
If I happened to roll scum this game I would most likely volunteer to sacrifice myself as the day one Lynch since come have four people I'd have one or two push me really hard and I have one stay neutral on me so that everything the townies tried to get off voting patterns after the Lynch are completely misguided, i would also as the Lynch buddy a townie super hard.... but that's just how I would play it if I were scum. Just a fun fact for the day carry on my good people
If i were to say that i agreed with you in that little argument that you had with PTB but I also do not scum. read you nor him for that, and that i hadna slight scumlean on SB16 for the way he was acting during and after that argument , how would you take this news?
vote me up guys blink gets shot tonight
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Hi: just got off work, going to the gym, eating dinner, showering and then I’ll be back to “contribute more.” Because according to distorted I’ve only defended myself, and not actually pushed people to read others in the game. Anyhow, I’ll break down my thoughts and shit. Traffic is rough, be back in like 3 hours or less. Ciao.
@Spruance @PowersThatBe @Lenneth @TheGodDavid @Gyrlander @Hybrid are not yet voting anyone. right now that = anti town we need votes out on people. or at least state where your vote WILL be if EoD happened now. Getting as much info out of this as possible is needed.
Rip games dead-vote stealthbomber16because when hes town hes usually more helpfull but hes a nice guy
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?
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Large post incoming.
Well after reading I haven't really learned much. People play the way they play, and I have yet to see a day 1 be alignment indicative. Maybe in hindsight, but during the game you are right as often as you are wrong. All I know is 6 of you are town, and 4 of you are mafia, so anyone I pick has a 40% chance of being mafia, which is decent. The biggest problem I have is that winning as town is numerically improbable, which shouldn't be the case in any save. From what I remember you are supposed to make read lists, but this early on I don't have much except stealthbomber is acting like the last time I lynched him, he was town in that case, aamirus really wants to win, blinkskater is impossible to read, and some of distorted's posts have been fishy. But even though I'll get railed with scrutiny I'm going to vote efekann for his early behavior.-vote Efekannn02Don't ask for explanation though. Seriously.
This to me seems forced. Why would town want us to think about ending day early? Only scum would try to be pressure people into throwing votes. It seems odd to me, and it could be that distorted is just scum trying to lead the town by trying to seem like he is doing town motivated things by forcing votes. Honestly, we still have 22 hours to make an informed decision when town is at a super disadvantage.
This vote is interesting to me, instead of picking someone you have reads on or want to pressure more, you chose to randomly park a vote instead of actually scum hunt. I don't get this SB play this game.
I agree with you here. Aamirus questioning it was suspicious but fine, distorted dismantling it for everyone to read exactly the process of it was super sketch to me. He's trying to seem like helpful town, but I see scum motivation there. Force feeding the clues to his teammates. However, they have a chat, so idk he could have just done that in private. But still could be merely trying to be "peace keeper"
What I was saying is that if you two led a lynch on me that early into the day 1 phase, I would have shot one of you for it was a good chance you were scum. I also recognized that it would be possible for you both to be town and 4 mafia could have hopped on. It was a general warning to town and not specifically meant to be a statement that I thought both were town. Given how some people voted last game, I don't necessarily trust the whole "whomever hammers is scum" mentality. But still to threaten to quit over that is a bit dramatic and kinda out of character for SB16, it seems like he was trying to come across frustrated town.
Again, another person playing out of character. GYRL knows exactly how I play and how I'm super passionate and direct. This shade throw and disappearing into the shadows is super scummy in my opinion.
Yes that is a good point.
This was so weird to me. You said how I am so different this game and were hardlining with aamirus and then after one post you were ready to move on after I threatened to 1. Shoot you, and 2. come back at you and look at your behavior. It seems like you realized you barked up the wrong tree and moved on. Whats fascinating is that you just parked a vote and did nothing else.
So you sided with aamirus then changed your mind and now she and I are scummates because of things you thought she pointed out that were logical? So you think a scum partner would have their teammate put so close to l-1 / lynch so early into day one, and you think we would spend all that time fighting back and forth over bullshit? Also, what value would she as my teammate get from trying to make me look stupid by calling the RQS pointless and stupid? Wouldn't she want me to use that to spread misinformation? You've seen me play scum, but you're thinking I would do such obvious tactics? This is really lazy SB, and I'm disappointed in you if you turn out to be town. However, I think you're an under-confidant scum and you tried to buddy aamirus.
Interesting way to side step the question.
Trolling or mafia wifom?
Beats everyone over the head with the explanation, helping teammates out? Or is he just trying to be helpful towny and settle a dispute? However, he buddies me kinda here after voting me and then jumping off. I just see opportunity tbh.
Afte rereading the earlier interactions, I actually find this town positive as I was at L-2 and in serious danger when he hopped off my train.
Again opportunistic voting.
Playing too middle of the road. TBH this is not blink town play. NAI for now.
Weird, what town would offer to sacrifice themselves? Seems like a way to bait scum into voting for him tbh. Actually town plus here.
A way to cover for being mafia?
See SB quote. I find their interactions to be interesting but not of significance.
Town can win if we vote smart.
Reads:
TOWN:
Me - obvi
Aamirus - I think she has good intentions, but is just misguided/new.
Blink - this is not a strong town lean, but I think some of his posts are attempts to bait scum.
Lenneth - hasn't posted much, but what he has posted has been more towny than scum. Need more info, but I town lean him for now.
Hybrid - He gets a town lean for not wanting to turbo lynch early. Also after reviewing his earlier posts he seems to be pushing me with aamirus to get info. Not strong town lean, but still towny enough.
Null:
Efe: I can never place efe tbh. Seems more focused this game, but I need more interactions to actually see what hes up to.
David: Posts are slightly more on the scummy side, but he just might be new. Idk, I need to have more interactions with him, and hopefully he gives us more info.
Spruance: Another one that needs to give more info and post more of his thoughts.
Scum:
GYRL - posts a shot at me, then runs off into the darkness never to be seen again. He's also playing differently than how town gyrl plays. I find it interesting how he just sides with aamirus and then slips out to leave her with her own thoughts. Unable to be pressed. He also picked one line and tried to make it seem larger than life tbh.
SB16 - seemed convinced I was playing out of character and was heavily siding with Aamirus, and then suddenly I give him a bit of push back directly and he slinks off to a new player with a low post count. It seems like he was shifting from long hanging fruit, which I was at the time, to a player he could easily buck up against. Even though, he just parks a vote and hasn't really scum hunted in my opinion.
Distorted - trying too hard to play the peace keeper. Trying to hard to over explain why town need to do things. It seems like he's trying so hard to convince everyone he's town by way of being that guy that has all the "right answers' Isn't really pushing too much, just siding with whoever seems to be winning the argument at the moment. Also trying to get everyone to come in and vote.
If I had to pick between my nulls atm I would put david in the scum category, he feels more scummy than the other two. However, for now, I have 3 solid scumspects.
-vote stealthbomber16
Alright then, L-2. Guess I'll be here for the next two hours then.
Stealthbomber16 (4 [L-2]):
Distorted, aamirus, blinkskater, PowersThatBe
Efekannn02 (2 [L-4]):
Stealthbomber16, Spruance
Marshmallow Marshall (1 [L-5]):
Hybrid
blinkskater (1 [L-5]):
Efekannn02
For reference.
Since no one else will answer the questions/ I did some analyzing of the questions already. I have a degree in psychology, and thats why I like using these RQS samples and then comparing them with day activity and writing up a large post. It helps fill in the dots for some of the people. If I look at the questions and determine some of the questions are role indicators and then look at those behavior points and compare them to the interactions a person has, and then using that I am able to determine motivations for why a person is pushing a certain way or doing certain things.
Granted, it's not perfect, and I don't always use it. I wanted to this game because it's helpful.
And that's the whole story.
This is PTB's wallpost. I've cut out the bits that I do not have a comment on. My responses are in Orange.
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This vote is interesting to me, instead of picking someone you have reads on or want to pressure more, you chose to randomly park a vote instead of actually scum hunt. I don't get this SB play this game.
Was hoping to see if Lenneth would react to this because Lenneth has been playing very passively this game. I had my reasons for parking the vote there at the time although now it seems like it has come back to bite me. He was and still is my most null read who has more than one post.
I agree with you here. Aamirus questioning it was suspicious but fine, distorted dismantling it for everyone to read exactly the process of it was super sketch to me. He's trying to seem like helpful town, but I see scum motivation there. Force feeding the clues to his teammates. However, they have a chat, so idk he could have just done that in private. But still could be merely trying to be "peace keeper"
That play felt very "mediator" to me.
What I was saying is that if you two led a lynch on me that early into the day 1 phase, I would have shot one of you for it was a good chance you were scum. I also recognized that it would be possible for you both to be town and 4 mafia could have hopped on. It was a general warning to town and not specifically meant to be a statement that I thought both were town. Given how some people voted last game, I don't necessarily trust the whole "whomever hammers is scum" mentality. But still to threaten to quit over that is a bit dramatic and kinda out of character for SB16, it seems like he was trying to come across frustrated town.
This paragraph was exactly why I voted you and you finally seem to have addressed it.
But consider the scenario that you put up: you're at L-4 and suddenly 4 people come out of the woodwork to hammer you 3 hours into day 1, and you decide to fuck over one of the first two? That's garbage and the more I think about it the less I like it.
Also, threatening to quit is something I've done before.
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This was so weird to me. You said how I am so different this game and were hardlining with aamirus and then after one post you were ready to move on after I threatened to 1. Shoot you, and 2. come back at you and look at your behavior. It seems like you realized you barked up the wrong tree and moved on. Whats fascinating is that you just parked a vote and did nothing else.
Threatening to shoot me was actually the correct thing to do given the context.
You were acting completely unlike yourself in my memory. When you gave me a response that I felt was satisfactory with my memort of you, I was, of course, satisfied.
I don't know what the last part about "parking a vote" is in reference to.
So you sided with aamirus then changed your mind and now she and I are scummates because of things you thought she pointed out that were logical?
Don't want to go hunt for the quote, but I believe earlier in this game you said something about "stating possibilities". It's a very reasonable possibility that I've seen before on this site.
So you think a scum partner would have their teammate put so close to l-1 / lynch so early into day one, and you think we would spend all that time fighting back and forth over bullshit?
...yes, actually, I do see you doing that. I do not see aamirus doing that, the more that I think about it. Aamirus wasn't the one who put you so close to L-1, and Hybrid was actually the one who unvoted you. Is this saying that we should be looking at your interactions with Hybrid now?
Also, what value would she as my teammate get from trying to make me look stupid by calling the RQS pointless and stupid? Wouldn't she want me to use that to spread misinformation? You've seen me play scum, but you're thinking I would do such obvious tactics? This is really lazy SB, and I'm disappointed in you if you turn out to be town. However, I think you're an under-confidant scum and you tried to buddy aamirus.
The reason I think you would do this because I've seen this exact scenario done before. Literally, this exact thing. Two scummates bus each other hard for the first few hours and are never questioned again. That scumplay totally screams that it is something you are both capable and willing to do.
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A way to cover for being mafia?
this is really reaching
See SB quote. I find their interactions to be interesting but not of significance.
stupidly far fetched
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1. CT
2. i have a tendency to stack a lot of things on top of each other and then not do any of them, so it would be paralysis I notice you run away when the thought of me pressuring you came about. I find that interesting.
Because I was satisfied with your answer.
3. no preference Seems to me like you're trying to hide your alignment.
fuck ooooooff
4. I don't have a plan. Scum with a plan, often claim to have no plan. You've answered enough of these to not answer like this. I find this fascinating.
Correction: my plan was to paint you as scum the run away. Clearly I pre-planned every move I made this game.
5. he
Scum:
GYRL - posts a shot at me, then runs off into the darkness never to be seen again. He's also playing differently than how town gyrl plays. I find it interesting how he just sides with aamirus and then slips out to leave her with her own thoughts. Unable to be pressed. He also picked one line and tried to make it seem larger than life tbh.
SB16 - seemed convinced I was playing out of character and was heavily siding with Aamirus, and then suddenly I give him a bit of push back directly and he slinks off to a new player with a low post count. It seems like he was shifting from long hanging fruit, which I was at the time, to a player he could easily buck up against. Even though, he just parks a vote and hasn't really scum hunted in my opinion.
Distorted - trying too hard to play the peace keeper. Trying to hard to over explain why town need to do things. It seems like he's trying so hard to convince everyone he's town by way of being that guy that has all the "right answers' Isn't really pushing too much, just siding with whoever seems to be winning the argument at the moment. Also trying to get everyone to come in and vote.
If I had to pick between my nulls atm I would put david in the scum category, he feels more scummy than the other two. However, for now, I have 3 solid scumspects.
you are reading too heavily into this. you've gone all in for no good reason, and it's sloppy.
-vote PowersThatBe
Are you really sure that I'm mafia? Are you willing to bet your life? The longer I replied to this the more I doubted you. I've made the mistake in the past of not applying what I'm saying to myself as scum, and I'm certain you're doing the same thing right now. As it stands when I am lynched I will be shooting you because this wall post was utter shit and that's not like you.
Once again I doubt my instincts and it comes back to bite me.
Puts me at L-2 and acts like it’s towny. I put him at L-2 and he acts like it’s scummy. You’re OMGUS voting me and threatening to take me out if you’re lynched. I find that interesting. You’re cracking under pressure.
Why don’t you actually scum hunt instead of trying to keep the pressure on me?
Killing me would cause a loss of a town.
Please give us reads so we can reconsider this vote. For now my vote stays parked.
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So you thought I was scum, then one post is made and you don't think I'm scum.
Then I make a large post and give a wide scope of reads, and just so happen to point out your scum behavior and now you're back to thinking I'm scum.
Who put who at L-2 first? It's okay for you to do it and it's town motivated, but the second I do it, I'm sloppy and scum.
I thought you were better than this, seriously.
-unvote
I'm curious to see SBs reads before I commit to keeping him at L-2. (also I was writing my post when distorted voted so I had no idea I would be putting SB at L-2.) Meant to put him at l-3. Anyhow, reaction received still. Interested to see where it goes.
-vote gyrlanderyou need a bit of motivation to participate
-vote gyrlander
@Spruance @Lenneth @TheGodDavid what do you think about me, my reads? What do you think about other people?
Give us reads from each of you please.
I'm going to bed. I'll respond as much as I can tomorrow, but unfortunately I'm busy after work.
So all my posts moving forward will be on my phone.
I should be here for EOD.