S-FM The Cold War III

[Ganelon]

Well I read everthing and the first few pages was shitty af, thanks for all the fake roleclaim Magoroth and MM xD

I was not gonna think seriously about the shitclaims but you guys are focused on it pretty hard.
There is always a purpose of MM claiming something D1, and he always do it...as scum or town.
That's why I will tend to believe his castro claim had a purpose.
People who are obvious scums D1 are never scums (in my experiences).



He is not in the game but what's the problem with castro?



Judge about being sleepy at 12am? I was already sleeping

My role claim ain't fake, I'm encounter-claimed Kennedy

[Ganelon]

My role claim ain't fake, I'm encounter-claimed Kennedy

uncounterclaimed*

[Lenneth]

Agreed I hard claim Sleeper Agent. I am asking Capitalist to not shoot me because I do not want to be a mafioso. Thank you and god bless the motherland.

Wtf dude. i really hope you are a shitizen. Anyway, now you claimed it, you should absolutly not claim anything else except if you have a strong lead tomorrow.
Scums can still think you lied and you can be protected.

Because he role claimed, and not only that, but a fucking town role that can be converted to mafia. Damn, can you read?

Truman uses heat action, roleblocking everyone with no feedback, they shoot rumox and convert him.

I really think you are shitizen rumox...

[Lenneth]

uncounterclaimed*

well ok, time to read the setup !
brb

[Fielzanks]

Welp, can someone tell me how to do a spoiler tag again? If I don't do it I'll get scolded because my post is too long

[Ganelon]

Welp, can someone tell me how to do a spoiler tag again? If I don't do it I'll get scolded because my post is too long

Go advanced

[Fielzanks]

It's strategy time!

Welcome in today's communist news feed! Breaking news, some capitalist scums invaded our country to make it fall!
And you know why the communist flag is red? BECAUSE WE TAINT IT WITH CAPITALIST BLOOD!

Spoiler : Don't click it. Seriously. :

CAPITALIST SCUM TEAM

Really classical mafia team : A godfather, a consigliere and a consort. Heat actions do not seem overpowered at all (they'll basically use it to kill a revealed Trostky or Putin, which is the way to go.) They're tailored to fight Castro but in this game he's not present so they are a bit on the weaker side I'd say? Since the role that gets sent out cannot do his night action, the mafia has several ways to play this one in my eyes :
1. Utilize JFK HEAT right away to have 2 kills night two. Seems like the strongest plan, but it also means that either consig or godfather will have to attack. If the consig have to attack, he will not be able to gather info, and if the godfather attack he will not be able to HEAT to recruit rumox. The strongest plan here would then be JFK HEAT, Truman HEAT, Nixon kill. This leave the mafia team without consig info but also allows a sure kill on rumox without it being revealed, while also having the possibility to have 2 kills the night after, but without the HEAT roleblock from Truman.
2. Utilize JFK HEAT right away to gain two kills night two, but also send the consigliere to gather info to make a better decision on night two. It will then send the godfather to kill, and they would use their HEAT the second night to allow for 2 unblockable kills for their faction. In this situation, rumox won't be converted at day 2.
3. Don't utilize JFK HEAT right away and send him to kill. This is what I expect a bad mafia team would do, as it leaves the godfather doing nothing (or HEAT?) without having 2 kills the night after.

With JFK HEAT and a bit of luck for the mafia, the town is at LyLo at day 3 (2 town death n1, 3 town death n2 making it 3mafia vs 3 town vs 1 sk). I'm not even sure it's considered LyLo as it's extremely brutal.

I've pointed out that the mafia would hit rumox with a HEAT action to assure the convert to them, but they would obviously prefer killing Trostky or Lenin, or a Goulag Officier (which we don't know if we have): because getting rid of these roles asap is better than to make town lose a lynch on him. But if myself was from the mafia, I would advocate doing plan #2 because I don't think Rumox claim is legit. If it is, it's all in the interest of mafia to learn of the truth and not waste a lynch on a citizen.
We're at day 1, so group agenda for the mafia isn't already established, but I can clearly see individual agenda to find TPR in sneaky ways being done the first day. As we're going to put pressure to find evils, they would utilize this pressure to gain info by day.
It is also worth noting out that consort will NOT claim escort due to the low possibility of that occurring and risks of being counterclaimed. We should lynch every escort claim by day 3. Instead, I think the consort would claim roleblocked on himself to be put by people as town; or at least not-scum. < Look into that people.

But if I read the setup correctly, we are not defenseless against their line of play : Trotsky can use his role to see every mafia action. I assume this is not seeing the targets too because that would be grossly overpowered, but it will allow town to know what was going on by night 1. I suggest against Trotsky to claim what he has seen however, as he would eat a HEAT bullet the night after. And we surely need this powerful role.

THE PROLETARIAT TOWN TEAM

Our defined roles are extremely powerful, be it Trotsky or Lenin. They would definitely hide behind a citizen claim or avoid claiming altogether to avoid being outed. As such, we should take caution about using the FoS on everyone as, at some point we will out one of them. And we don't want to do that by day 1.
Trotsky would surely use his night action to see mafia's ones to know when the HEAT has been used, and NOT use the gun carelessly as if he shoot even 1 town, it's lost for everyone.
Lenin would use his heat the second day, after gathering a list of good reads, because passing down his healing power to town is IMPORTANT for us if we want to be able to withstand 2 attacks per night. However, I would understand him using his heat the first day, as if he dies N1 his power would be wasted either way. But this is also very dangerous as I believe Lenin night chat is NOT anonymous so if Lenin choose a mafia right away he'll be able to tell his team and we would lose our doc first night, a thing we should avoid at all costs. I don't think the other TPR roles are relevant because proper use of these 2 will make the game for town without anyone else doing much but scumhunting. The strategy for town would be really role-based; and not worth to out every potential thinking here as it would hurt some komrad in an impactful way. Standard FM playing will be sufficient to win easily.
Talking about scumhunting, SCUMHUNTING WILL BE ESSENTIAL FOR TOWN TO NOT LOSE : We're going at mylo day 3 without us doing anything wrong (let's say skipping day 1 and lynching JFK day 2). So every town not scumhunting will fall into the scumdetector and be questioned, tortured and whipped. Passive playing as town, even if you're Trotsky is discouraged because it'll just make us loose.


MY CURRENT VIEW ON THE STATE OF THE GAME

We're good, nobody has died yet, Distorted is not here so he will not be the #1 voted for the majority of the first day and his alt seems extremely towny. The game progress in a way I'm happy with, and the FoS is being dropped around without heavy tunneling. Some actions were scummy, some players were scummy, but that's basically what mid-day 1 reads stops.

Magoroth and Blinkskater are scumhunting and does so while exchanging ideas and opinions, which is a sign of good town players early in the game. They fall into the town read category.
Unknown feels towny too, easy going and helpful but not doing much except being pleasant to be with. Potential scum hiding here tho.
Interaction between MM and me feels intriguing (he's basically assuring a lynch on me if he flips maf because of our interactions) and his going out on a newb is hazardous at best but I don't feel like he's important this game. Not talking about meta, he seems a little bit too much on the spotlight and defended himself very hard, while I feel he would be dismissive if he was real scum as to not escalate this further. He's a null read with a huge potential town lean for me.
naz is a null read at the moment, but she seems to agree on my view of rumox, interactions will reveal a lot on this spot.
<Here is aamirus spot, slight scummy read because he seems to claim he's found a caught mafia in MM; which feels like a forced mislynch at this point.>
rumox feels scummy to be by a good margin, not only because he claimed sleeper agent (a powerful role I said multiple time SHOULD REMAIN HIDDEN) that can turn on us, but because his interactions feels like he's trying to sway town opinion to his own, which is not helpful at this state of the game. Also he tried to turn a vote brigade against MM to avoid his own?

I warned you.

[rumox]

tl;dr

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

[Unknown1234]

Did you just call me Distorteds alt? Lol.

I can’t believe I decided to read all that.

[Ganelon]

Did you just call me Distorteds alt? Lol.

I can’t believe I decided to read all that.

Nah, he called me Distorted's alt, actually. It's a running gag - Arsonist accused me of being Distorted's smurf and/or of Skyping with him.

[Fielzanks]

Did you just call me Distorteds alt? Lol.

I can’t believe I decided to read all that.

Nah, I called Mag that :')

[Ganelon]

I'm seeing a potential MM/naz scum team... lol if that were the case I predict naz would ask to be replaced virtually instantly

[Lenneth]

President Truman
Passive Ability: Leader of the Mafia, may override night actions.
Heat Action:- The Doctrine, Role block all town and others ability, targets will not be informed of roleblock.

So if truman doesn't do his Heat action, he will probably do the factionnal kill.
It's interesting to notice the neutrals are not rb by his heat action.

President Nixon
Action: Target one person at night, learning their role
Heat Action:- No Ballistics, Stops all weapons firing for 1 day and night, does not stop Mafia roles. Does not stop castro handouts.

So it's a consiglière and a dude who can rb all killing role excluding themself?

JFK

Action: Target one player at night, roleblocking them. Target is informed of roleblock.
Heat action:- Become The assassin, gives JFK a one shot gun and Nixon a one use vest.

If I were JFK, I would probably do the heat action N1, sound better that rbing a random dude.

Joseph Stalin

Action: Kill one player at night
Heat Action:-NKVD, Finds out a random players role
Heat Action 2:-5 Year plan-for 2 days,2 random players (per night) are roleblocked

I don't know what mean NKVD xD.
Look powerfull af, I think N1, he will kill someone or do the Heat action 1.
depending of if he prefer to learn information (heat action1) or kill someone.
heat action 2 look probably better later in the game?

Conclusion :
Naz is right, Rumox is probably dead tonight, that's why I would prefer him to be a shitizen xD. That depend if scums believe his claim or not. I don't think SK will kill rumox because he has a good chance to be protected by someone or dead by mafia.
We can have two dead town tonight, one if SK prefer to get information, 1 scum dead if SK kill a scum.

[Lenneth]

So if truman doesn't do his Heat action, he will probably do the factionnal kill.
It's interesting to notice the neutrals are not rb by his heat action.



So it's a consiglière and a dude who can rb all killing role excluding themself?



If I were JFK, I would probably do the heat action N1, sound better that rbing a random dude.



I don't know what mean NKVD xD.
Look powerfull af, I think N1, he will kill someone or do the Heat action 1.
depending of if he prefer to learn information (heat action1) or kill someone.
heat action 2 look probably better later in the game?

Conclusion :
Naz is right, Rumox is probably dead tonight, that's why I would prefer him to be a shitizen xD. That depend if scums believe his claim or not. I don't think SK will kill rumox because he has a good chance to be protected by someone or dead by mafia.
We can have two dead town tonight, one if SK prefer to get information, 1 scum dead if SK kill a scum.

I fucked up the quotes...

[blinkskater]

A towny would argue that it's good to role claiming in specific conditions with a specific goal before doing a real roleclaiming. Which is why I think rumox's claim is fake. But it can also be fake to lure mafia on him while wasting a HEAT.

Why would you day that and out his potential pro town play ? Are you serious right now

[Unknown1234]

For the people that STILL find rumox scummy based on his role claim, there are many good reasons why this claim is as effective, or even more effective than citizen claims.

1.) If hes citizen, he’s claiming a TPR to gain attention.

2.) If hes sleeper agent, he’s playing too dumb to actually be a sleeper agent, right? (Possibly, who knows).

3.) If hes TPR, he makes himself less of a target by, ironically, making himself a target.

So let’s pretend rumox is scum for a second,

4.) He claims sleeper agent because.... (Because what? There’s no good reason to do it because it puts himself in the worst position of either having to confirm himself, or the town having extreme doubt on him the entire game. So no, this claim is not scummy and in any case it’s actually better than a citizen claim, because it showed he was able to take more risk of claiming a PR role than the citizens, which is more common for scum to claim than town themselves (MM specifically, but also blinkskater (seems more Town than scum though), and David, who I can’t give much of an answer on as of yet).

I’m not saying I think claimin citizen makes you scum, I think it depends how it’s done. The desperate way MM did it seems scummy, where as blinkskater did it so randomly that it doesn’t make sense as a scum play (perhaps more null than town regardless).

Meanwhile, naz notices suspicion building on her and had commented on her vote, but it feels so unjustified. Atleast Fielzanks gave some explanation to it, whether it makes sense. MM also commented on people suspecting them, but the answers were vague and seems more like a scum player trying to wait for attention to get off them to start back up. Not convinced on either of these two.

Please read this, as it honestly makes so much sense that rumox is Town. If you are going to disagree and still scum-read rumox, explain why this logic makes no sense.

[Fielzanks]

Why would you day that and out his potential pro town play ? Are you serious right now

Everyone saw that. It was bad.

[Fielzanks]

For the people that STILL find rumox scummy based on his role claim, there are many good reasons why this claim is as effective, or even more effective than citizen claims.

1.) If hes citizen, he’s claiming a TPR to gain attention.

2.) If hes sleeper agent, he’s playing too dumb to actually be a sleeper agent, right? (Possibly, who knows).

3.) If hes TPR, he makes himself less of a target by, ironically, making himself a target.

So let’s pretend rumox is scum for a second,

4.) He claims sleeper agent because.... (Because what? There’s no good reason to do it because it puts himself in the worst position of either having to confirm himself, or the town having extreme doubt on him the entire game. So no, this claim is not scummy and in any case it’s actually better than a citizen claim, because it showed he was able to take more risk of claiming a PR role than the citizens, which is more common for scum to claim than town themselves (MM specifically, but also blinkskater (seems more Town than scum though), and David, who I can’t give much of an answer on as of yet).

I’m not saying I think claimin citizen makes you scum, I think it depends how it’s done. The desperate way MM did it seems scummy, where as blinkskater did it so randomly that it doesn’t make sense as a scum play (perhaps more null than town regardless).

Meanwhile, naz notices suspicion building on her and had commented on her vote, but it feels so unjustified. Atleast Fielzanks gave some explanation to it, whether it makes sense. MM also commented on people suspecting them, but the answers were vague and seems more like a scum player trying to wait for attention to get off them to start back up. Not convinced on either of these two.

Please read this, as it honestly makes so much sense that rumox is Town. If you are going to disagree and still scum-read rumox, explain why this logic makes no sense.

No, you're right as how you see it. But it was done poorly. You don't go out, few hours into the game when people told the said role should not reveal 'HEY I'M THAT ROLE LOOK AT THE BIG TARGET I AM". That's scummy in more than one way : we have no investigatives roles so we cannot know if he is lying or not ; he's bringing Lenin on him (which allows the capitalist scum to kill another one freely?) ; and he's making town suspect him for a shitty play which throw confusion into day 1. Mafia would need only ONE competent player to find out what rumox was doing in the case he's town. I won't go around and praise someone who calls other a 'dum dum' when they do that.

[Lenneth]

For the people that STILL find rumox scummy based on his role claim, there are many good reasons why this claim is as effective, or even more effective than citizen claims.

1.) If hes citizen, he’s claiming a TPR to gain attention.

2.) If hes sleeper agent, he’s playing too dumb to actually be a sleeper agent, right? (Possibly, who knows).

3.) If hes TPR, he makes himself less of a target by, ironically, making himself a target.

So let’s pretend rumox is scum for a second,

4.) He claims sleeper agent because.... (Because what? There’s no good reason to do it because it puts himself in the worst position of either having to confirm himself, or the town having extreme doubt on him the entire game. So no, this claim is not scummy and in any case it’s actually better than a citizen claim, because it showed he was able to take more risk of claiming a PR role than the citizens, which is more common for scum to claim than town themselves (MM specifically, but also blinkskater (seems more Town than scum though), and David, who I can’t give much of an answer on as of yet).

I’m not saying I think claimin citizen makes you scum, I think it depends how it’s done. The desperate way MM did it seems scummy, where as blinkskater did it so randomly that it doesn’t make sense as a scum play (perhaps more null than town regardless).

Meanwhile, naz notices suspicion building on her and had commented on her vote, but it feels so unjustified. Atleast Fielzanks gave some explanation to it, whether it makes sense. MM also commented on people suspecting them, but the answers were vague and seems more like a scum player trying to wait for attention to get off them to start back up. Not convinced on either of these two.

Please read this, as it honestly makes so much sense that rumox is Town. If you are going to disagree and still scum-read rumox, explain why this logic makes no sense.

Yep, I agree with you, but that only mean he can be anything, scum or town, dumb town or a smart one.
If he is scum...that mean if scums don't kill anyone tonight, people will think rumox have been converted. I don't know if a real scum would want to do that.

[naz]

I'm seeing a potential MM/naz scum team... lol if that were the case I predict naz would ask to be replaced virtually instantly

lmfao nah, i'm not salty about it anymore (i'm not an overgrown piss baby), i actually like him now. but i already hard claimed town boiiiiiii, no one is confirmed to me and you're all scum as far as i'm concerned

[Lenneth]

Anti-Communist Agent
Ask a player during the day to post a anonymous message for the next day
player asked must post a report to the Putin(me) to be posted to town if they do not comply a 'Accident, will be staged on such player.
if attacked by the Capitalist Scum will covert into a American reporter.

What is the purpose of that? Make someone say a troll thing or something really bad for himself?
Let's imagine the Anti-Communist Agent tell me to say something like :
'I hard claim Lenin'
I can still say the next message that I had to say that, right? So...?

[naz]

4.) He claims sleeper agent because.... (Because what? There’s no good reason to do it because it puts himself in the worst position of either having to confirm himself, or the town having extreme doubt on him the entire game. So no, this claim is not scummy and in any case it’s actually better than a citizen claim, because it showed he was able to take more risk of claiming a PR role than the citizens, which is more common for scum to claim than town themselves (MM specifically, but also blinkskater (seems more Town than scum though), and David, who I can’t give much of an answer on as of yet).

I’m not saying I think claimin citizen makes you scum, I think it depends how it’s done. The desperate way MM did it seems scummy, where as blinkskater did it so randomly that it doesn’t make sense as a scum play (perhaps more null than town regardless).

Meanwhile, naz notices suspicion building on her and had commented on her vote, but it feels so unjustified. Atleast Fielzanks gave some explanation to it, whether it makes sense. MM also commented on people suspecting them, but the answers were vague and seems more like a scum player trying to wait for attention to get off them to start back up. Not convinced on either of these two.

Please read this, as it honestly makes so much sense that rumox is Town. If you are going to disagree and still scum-read rumox, explain why this logic makes no sense.

Because if he is scum it would be a good play to be all Oh yeah Doc On Me, and maybe Lenin doesn't actually heal him and he gets "converted" and he baits out the Lenin in some way with this/wastes night action for Lenin (somehow, thankfully mafia have no roles where they can see who visits whom) - it's just a really bad claim with little to no strategy provided from him at all. one thing we were discussing earlier was to role claim or not, and those of us discussing have been agreeing to not role claim.

lol ok, please come at me bro, i have nothing to hide. if you're expecting me to give "explanation" for my votes, you're barking up the wrong tree , as i play with emotion over logic, at least right now on day fucking 1 with no TPR action so far. i'm basing off my gut, as i know several of these players personally, and have played a few rounds of FM with them.

i don't know if rumox is town or scum, but you're buddying him real hard for the first 24hrs, so if he does flip scum, you're in some hot shit

[Lenneth]

@Distorted hidden communist can be shitizen?

[Lenneth]

Because if he is scum it would be a good play to be all Oh yeah Doc On Me, and maybe Lenin doesn't actually heal him and he gets "converted" and he baits out the Lenin in some way with this/wastes night action for Lenin (somehow, thankfully mafia have no roles where they can see who visits whom) - it's just a really bad claim with little to no strategy provided from him at all. one thing we were discussing earlier was to role claim or not, and those of us discussing have been agreeing to not role claim.

lol ok, please come at me bro, i have nothing to hide. if you're expecting me to give "explanation" for my votes, you're barking up the wrong tree , as i play with emotion over logic, at least right now on day fucking 1 with no TPR action so far. i'm basing off my gut, as i know several of these players personally, and have played a few rounds of FM with them.

i don't know if rumox is town or scum, but you're buddying him real hard for the first 24hrs, so if he does flip scum, you're in some hot shit

I am not buddying him or rumox but I townread unknow, for being confused then tring to help town (mostly by reading the setup).
barking up the wrong tree...funny expression ! can I borrow it?

[Fielzanks]

Anti-Communist Agent
Ask a player during the day to post a anonymous message for the next day
player asked must post a report to the Putin(me) to be posted to town if they do not comply a 'Accident, will be staged on such player.
if attacked by the Capitalist Scum will covert into a American reporter.

What is the purpose of that? Make someone say a troll thing or something really bad for himself?
Let's imagine the Anti-Communist Agent tell me to say something like :
'I hard claim Lenin'
I can still say the next message that I had to say that, right? So...?

Since Anti Communist Agent is town-aligned; you will know that a town player found you. So you can use that to give your night feedback and it'll be good for us. if said player has nothing good to day it won't be of much use however.

[Unknown1234]

I am not buddying him or rumox but I townread unknow, for being confused then tring to help town (mostly by reading the setup).
barking up the wrong tree...funny expression ! can I borrow it?

Have you read what I’ve posted?

[Lenneth]

Have you read what I’ve posted?

yup, which part exactly?

[Ganelon]

I do not think Unknown was confused at any point, I actually agree heavily with his points and I am townreading him atm

[Ganelon]

I do not think Unknown was confused at any point, I actually agree heavily with his points and I am townreading him atm

There is a chance aamirus is Serial Killer

[Ganelon]

There is a chance aamirus is Serial Killer

But outing a potential Mafia D1 as SK is poor play

[Unknown1234]

I was confused early on when someone had to explain the sleeper agent mechanic, but other than that I don’t see what he’s been talking about. I’m also not super familiar with the setup, and have barely talked about it at all (in fact I was trying to avoid the majority of setup discussion).

[Unknown1234]

There is a chance aamirus is Serial Killer

I don’t understand.

[Lenneth]

Reading this day so far has left me with incredibly large gaps of logic and I’m sorta confused on where everyone has been going.

He litteraly said it, town are often confused when scums are not.

[Unknown1234]

I think that was one of my first posts, but I’m not confused right now.

[Lenneth]

I was confused early on when someone had to explain the sleeper agent mechanic, but other than that I don’t see what he’s been talking about. I’m also not super familiar with the setup, and have barely talked about it at all (in fact I was trying to avoid the majority of setup discussion).

Dont misunderstand me, it's not a bad thing, I just noticed at that time you were confused and it's mostly a good thing and logical when you are town.
I am not a very good FM player, distorted told me that once and I still remember it.

[Fielzanks]

I don’t understand.

Seems like you're confused there buddy

[Lenneth]

I think that was one of my first posts, but I’m not confused right now.

I also noticed that but good to know

[Lenneth]

There is a chance aamirus is Serial Killer

Why?

[rumox]

Here is my god read of Day 1 (besides MM). Fielzanks is scum trying to take the "look at my wallpost of theories, i'm so pro town" road. I'll be following and watching him tonight

[Unknown1234]

@naz based on your last post, you seem to think that sleeper agent is a citizen, where as the role itself has the potential in multiple ways to confirm itself. So don’t know why scum would claim that when there is a chance that the information they would “fake” could be easily wrong.

Secondly, that’s fine that you’re emotional, I would consider myself as an emotional person as well, but that hardly excuses you from backing up what you say. If you don’t have reason for voting someone, then don’t do it. If you do, then don’t say you don’t and just answer.

[Unknown1234]

Here is my god read of Day 1 (besides MM). Fielzanks is scum trying to take the "look at my wallpost of theories, i'm so pro town" road. I'll be following and watching him tonight

...please don’t do this.

[naz]

I am not buddying him or rumox but I townread unknow, for being confused then tring to help town (mostly by reading the setup).
barking up the wrong tree...funny expression ! can I borrow it?

haha, yes, it's an old (dunno how old) English expression, so feel free

Seems like you're confused there buddy

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO

@naz based on your last post, you seem to think that sleeper agent is a citizen, where as the role itself has the potential in multiple ways to confirm itself. So don’t know why scum would claim that when there is a chance that the information they would “fake” could be easily wrong.

Secondly, that’s fine that you’re emotional, I would consider myself as an emotional person as well, but that hardly excuses you from backing up what you say. If you don’t have reason for voting someone, then don’t do it. If you do, then don’t say you don’t and just answer.

Let me know the multiple ways he can confirm himself, because I would love a confirmed town. btw, he can plot with scummates tonight in chat to setup "visits" and whatnot, making himself and another scum seem town. (remember, scum can't actually do detective/lookout) - anyway, i'm tired of pushing this rumox theory now, i'd like to see how it unfolds tomorrow and see wtf the point of it was. maybe some responses from him.

oh, so you'd like me to just not use my vote at all entire game and just sit here and sip my coffee as the game goes by? NAH BINCH, i'm gonna pressure people. bug off.

...please don’t do this.

-vote Unknown1234

why don't you want rumox to follow you? were you planning on making the Scum Kill tonight?

[Ganelon]

haha, yes, it's an old (dunno how old) English expression, so feel free



LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO



Let me know the multiple ways he can confirm himself, because I would love a confirmed town. btw, he can plot with scummates tonight in chat to setup "visits" and whatnot, making himself and another scum seem town. (remember, scum can't actually do detective/lookout) - anyway, i'm tired of pushing this rumox theory now, i'd like to see how it unfolds tomorrow and see wtf the point of it was. maybe some responses from him.

oh, so you'd like me to just not use my vote at all entire game and just sit here and sip my coffee as the game goes by? NAH BINCH, i'm gonna pressure people. bug off.

-vote Unknown1234

why don't you want rumox to follow you? were you planning on making the Scum Kill tonight?

Why are you ignoring Marshmallow?

[naz]

Secondly, that’s fine that you’re emotional, I would consider myself as an emotional person as well, but that hardly excuses you from backing up what you say. If you don’t have reason for voting someone, then don’t do it. If you do, then don’t say you don’t and just answer.

also you're making me want to pull out my hair by saying i have no reason to vote rumox, when i see his play as stupid and scummy - that's my fucken reason dude

[naz]

Why are you ignoring Marshmallow?

i AM suspicious of him as well, but he has 3 votes on him already (choo?), is asleep, and why not pressure others?

[Fielzanks]

Here is my god read of Day 1 (besides MM). Fielzanks is scum trying to take the "look at my wallpost of theories, i'm so pro town" road. I'll be following and watching him tonight

Already planning to waste a night action to protect your claim tomorrow? Watch me then, and if you won't be able to tell me who I visited tonight, off with your head!

[naz]

-vote Unknown1234

why don't you want rumox to follow you? were you planning on making the Scum Kill tonight?

nvm - ignore this ... he said that he was gonna follow FIELZ - but why nah him? were you planning on letting HIM make teh scum kill then?

[Unknown1234]

He literally said he was following someone else, but that’s not what I was talking about. I was referring to him calling out who he is targeting, which is literally the main concern that you just mentioned yourself.

When did I ever say don’t vote? I said I think you’re scum for not explaining your votes. If you scum-read someone, you clearly have a reason to vote them. So why not just explain it?



At people not reading.

[Lenneth]

nvm - ignore this ... he said that he was gonna follow FIELZ - but why nah him? were you planning on letting HIM make teh scum kill then?

I am actualy not sure if it was a good idea for him to reveal who he will follow.

[Unknown1234]

also you're making me want to pull out my hair by saying i have no reason to vote rumox, when i see his play as stupid and scummy - that's my fucken reason dude

The only thing I’ve been commenting on is the fact that you can’t explain why he is scummy, which is why I have a scum-read on you for being overly opportunistic. You also just OMGUS’d me.

How does being stupid make him scum though?