S-FM The Cold War III

[Ganelon]

I am in favour of an yzb25 lynch. This vote is with intent to lynch.

[Dunna]

Can you give us the raw numbers too?

Sadly not, there were multiple votes and unvotes(and usually, these ppl were spamming these two buttons), but these votes are quite representative as is.

I decided to keep it simple.

[Ganelon]

Sadly not, there were multiple votes and unvotes(and usually, these ppl were spamming these two buttons), but these votes are quite representative as is.

I decided to keep it simple.

Help me push yzb25.

[Lenneth]

The colors are the people who voted the man in the column.

i voted dunna today but it doesn't appeared on the img.
By the way, it look great

[Fielzanks]

And according to dunna's chart, everybody in the game voted MM at one point lol

[Fielzanks]

i voted dunna today but it doesn't appeared on the img.
By the way, it look great

Are you sure it's not you instead of aamirus in the blue colored thing?

[Dunna]

i voted dunna today but it doesn't appeared on the img.
By the way, it look great

It did appear on the img... You are having a dark blue vote signal, aamirus has a purple as you can CLEARLY see it.

[Ganelon]

If I am right about yzb: ---
@Distorted , can muktiple attacks pierce through passive/active night immunity?

[Dunna]

Should I still pressure yzb25?

[Fielzanks]

It did appear on the img... You are having a dark blue vote signal, aamirus has a purple as you can CLEARLY see it.

I'm 100% colorblind confirmed

[Fielzanks]

@Distorted Did Unknown actively asked for a replacement as he stated he did?

[DJarJar]

It did appear on the img... You are having a dark blue vote signal, aamirus has a purple as you can CLEARLY see it.

Seriously? Me and Lenneth are both Dark Blue for me...

[TheGodDavid]

Seriously? Me and Lenneth are both Dark Blue for me...

Maybe you are also color blind

[Ganelon]

I call for PSS on Lenin.
I know who Lenin is.

[Dunna]

Alright, there is a colour blind version as well: https://imgur.com/a/f3aZH1a

"the colours assigned to each person represent whom they've received a vote from(at any given point)"

[Ganelon]

@Distorted Did Unknown actively asked for a replacement as he stated he did?

This is... you know he has to ssy yes to this.

[Fielzanks]

This is... you know he has to ssy yes to this.

What bother you?

[Ganelon]

What bother you?

I am saying you cannot possibly gain any information from this.

[yzb25]

-vote yzb25

Magoroth is right that you're fully capable to be very competent and THAT you haven't been much on the spotlight. Due to mid-day 1 interactions we deduced that one of the inactives may have been scum; and there you are. You did not hammer MM, you will be against him today since you want to sack him and you've been really on the spot for the most of the game. What'dyou say?

I'm not sure what part of me seems competent, frankly. Is it because my thought process seems logical? Is it because I'm active? I was reading from 9AM to 6PM in the latter half of day 1. I missed meals, got dehydrated and forgot to shower. On n1, I read 2 pages, then procrastinated and didn't even send a lw.
I'm not being self-deprecating. I take pride in who I am in spite of my flaws. I'm just challenging this notion that my behavior is carefully calculated and that I'm this hyper-competent person capable of sustained manipulation. Because I'm not. It's why I'm bad as scum - my neurotic, impulsive personality had me collecting scumreads after <5 posts in my only 2 games as scum. I'm not the next distorted.

I did not hammer MM. It was probably the biggest misplay I made this game, even in the unlikely event he is town. If you think my interactions with MM are scummy, fine. But first go back and reread my posts regarding him first and then say that to me with a straight face, because every step of the way I was just trying my best to suss him out, nothing more and nothing less.

Otherwise - "Due to mid-day 1 interactions we deduced that one of the inactives may have been scum" is a very fancy way of saying "Distorted seemed to want replaces quickly, so maybe one of them wasn't a shitizen?" It means little.

I feel like I didn't need to go this far with my reply, but I wanted to counter all the points you made properly. It is what it is I guess.

[Ganelon]

Also please note how yzb rapidly disappeared and became a guest.

[Ganelon]

Also please note how yzb rapidly disappeared and became a guest.

Ignore this, nvm

[yzb25]

Also please note how yzb rapidly disappeared and became a guest.

Nah, I've been invisible all game. I should probably turn it off, but I did it years ago and can't remember how XD

[Ganelon]

Nah, I've been invisible all game. I should probably turn it off, but I did it years ago and can't remember how XD

Yeah, when I see a lurker I know it is you

[Fielzanks]

I'm not sure what part of me seems competent, frankly. Is it because my thought process seems logical? Is it because I'm active? I was reading from 9AM to 6PM in the latter half of day 1. I missed meals, got dehydrated and forgot to shower. On n1, I read 2 pages, then procrastinated and didn't even send a lw.
I'm not being self-deprecating. I take pride in who I am in spite of my flaws. I'm just challenging this notion that my behavior is carefully calculated and that I'm this hyper-competent person capable of sustained manipulation. Because I'm not. It's why I'm bad as scum - my neurotic, impulsive personality had me collecting scumreads after <5 posts in my only 2 games as scum. I'm not the next distorted.

I did not hammer MM. It was probably the biggest misplay I made this game, even in the unlikely event he is town. If you think my interactions with MM are scummy, fine. But first go back and reread my posts regarding him first and then say that to me with a straight face, because every step of the way I was just trying my best to suss him out, nothing more and nothing less.

Otherwise - "Due to mid-day 1 interactions we deduced that one of the inactives may have been scum" is a very fancy way of saying "Distorted seemed to want replaces quickly, so maybe one of them wasn't a shitizen?" It means little.

I feel like I didn't need to go this far with my reply, but I wanted to counter all the points you made properly. It is what it is I guess.

It was mostly 'Putting 3 players together is impossible even though shit stirred' not 'Distorted hurried up'

[Dunna]

Alright, so MM is "basically playing HotS all day" without even checking the topic.

[Fielzanks]

Alright, so MM is "basically playing HotS all day" without even checking the topic.

Is it better or worse than David tho? :P

[yzb25]

It was mostly 'Putting 3 players together is impossible even though shit stirred' not 'Distorted hurried up'

Fair. Though, if MM flips scum, we'll have already established there's at least been moderate bussing this game, so it's not surprising if the associations look wonky.

[TheGodDavid]

Is it better or worse than David tho? :P

hmm

[DJarJar]

I call for PSS on Lenin.
I know who Lenin is.

You know, at this point I have changed my mind. This was your plan from the start, fuck with everyone repeatedly so they are constantly confused and cannot make smart decisions. I am done with this nonsense from you.

[Dunna]

6 hours left my mates.

[Fielzanks]

hmm

We're (atm) 6v3v1. Imagine we lynch MM that is PSS. 5v3v1 with only Trosty and Lenin up. You'd die instantly tomorrow, guaranteeing a free day for your 2 mafia mates. If the SK is competent he would kill you, but let's say he does not. 3 town dies. 3v3v1. Your lynch goes through, 3v2v1. Which means 3 town vs 3 scum btw. Next day it's either 1v2v1 (which is NOT a town win) or 2v1v1 (which is NOT a town win either.) or 2v2v1 if mafia use consigliere to block kills.

What does that mean? It means that the mafia think they can out the SK on day 4. But in the scenario where you said 'it isn't a mafia win' it is more a mafia win than a town win, due to next numbers of players to die.

[TheGodDavid]

We're (atm) 6v3v1. Imagine we lynch MM that is PSS. 5v3v1 with only Trosty and Lenin up. You'd die instantly tomorrow, guaranteeing a free day for your 2 mafia mates. If the SK is competent he would kill you, but let's say he does not. 3 town dies. 3v3v1. Your lynch goes through, 3v2v1. Which means 3 town vs 3 scum btw. Next day it's either 1v2v1 (which is NOT a town win) or 2v1v1 (which is NOT a town win either.) or 2v2v1 if mafia use consigliere to block kills.

What does that mean? It means that the mafia think they can out the SK on day 4. But in the scenario where you said 'it isn't a mafia win' it is more a mafia win than a town win, due to next numbers of players to die.

But I am the PSS so I know that MM is mafia

[Distorted]

If I am right about yzb: ---
@Distorted , can muktiple attacks pierce through passive/active night immunity?

...what?

@Distorted Did Unknown actively asked for a replacement as he stated he did?

yes, im working on it

[Lenneth]

It did appear on the img... You are having a dark blue vote signal, aamirus has a purple as you can CLEARLY see it.

goddamnit, I was reading it in the wrong side ~~
My bad !

[blinkskater]

A newer reason that I think David would be the real PSS is what scum in their right mind would think it's logical to counterclaim the exact same role as the first one claimed. What makes sense in my mind is the scum would CC a different role to me it would just be more believable.

[Fielzanks]

But I am the PSS so I know that MM is mafia

And MM is the PSS so he know that you are mafia.

[Ganelon]

You know, at this point I have changed my mind. This was your plan from the start, fuck with everyone repeatedly so they are constantly confused and cannot make smart decisions. I am done with this nonsense from you.

I am not Lenin, rofl.

[DJarJar]

It did appear on the img... You are having a dark blue vote signal, aamirus has a purple as you can CLEARLY see it.

I know you made a clearer image already, but I was wondering if I am really seeing the original picture wrong and I asked my roommates to look and they both said that both Lenneth and I were Dark Blue!! (with me being slightly darker if you squint)

[Dunna]

A newer reason that I think David would be the real PSS is what scum in their right mind would think it's logical to counterclaim the exact same role as the first one claimed. What makes sense in my mind is the scum would CC a different role to me it would just be more believable.

Scum like that know that there are people like you who will think " what scum in their right mind would think it's logical to counterclaim the exact same role as the first one claimed.", so its pretty simple.

[DJarJar]

I am not Lenin, rofl.

I know that's not what you were claiming.....but you were just spouting more crap.
I am sorry you just have said so much crap that I finally got ticked off.

[TheGodDavid]

And MM is the PSS so he know that you are mafia.

Well, Idk how to convince you otherwise since both of us are claiming the same thing. Just make the right choice, you supposedly have 20000 IQ.

[DJarJar]

A newer reason that I think David would be the real PSS is what scum in their right mind would think it's logical to counterclaim the exact same role as the first one claimed. What makes sense in my mind is the scum would CC a different role to me it would just be more believable.

Well, it's also the easiest role to claim

[DJarJar]

A newer reason that I think David would be the real PSS is what scum in their right mind would think it's logical to counterclaim the exact same role as the first one claimed. What makes sense in my mind is the scum would CC a different role to me it would just be more believable.

You gonna respond to your @s?

[Dunna]

I know you made a clearer image already, but I was wondering if I am really seeing the original picture wrong and I asked my roommates to look and they both said that both Lenneth and I were Dark Blue!! (with me being slightly darker if you squint)

Well, I am still seing you as purple and Lenneth as dark blue, guess everyone perceives things in a different way.

[yzb25]

Well, Idk how to convince you otherwise since both of us are claiming the same thing. Just make the right choice, you supposedly have 20000 IQ.

I swear the number is slowly rising. We'll have to give it in standard form by the EOD2 XD

[Fielzanks]

Well, Idk how to convince you otherwise since both of us are claiming the same thing. Just make the right choice, you supposedly have 20000 IQ.

You don't need to convince me. You need to convince other people than me.

[Lenneth]

As I said a bit before, I am going out tonight (roleplay bitches !).
I am scumreading MM for a while and if I have to chose between MM or David, I am gonna chose :

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

The only one I would like to be lynched instead of MM is maybe Mag. Or you will have to be really convincing.
I also think we should lynch someone BEFORE EOD or someone will start a random lynch 5 minutes before and a town will be lynched like yesterday.
I think it's better to lynch someone with our cold head....or cool head? xD

[blinkskater]

You gonna respond to your @s?

Yea when o get home for work stopped for a quick lunxh back top work i wont foeget about you bb;)

[Ganelon]

PSS on Lenin. That will force both scum to either target Lenin, resulting in one of the scum and the PSS dying, effectively clearing one of our TPR claimers as town. That or they will just kill the BG and someone else, or two other peeps. Fairly win-win situation.

[Dunna]

Yea when o get home for work stopped for a quick lunxh back top work i wont foeget about you bb;)

Excuses, excuses, and excuses.

Guess you will arrive at 00:00 CET, right few min after EOD.