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This is the exact post where i became confident me and SCV was a TvT argument....I got so frustrated at MM during this lol
this is me being frustrated at MM
Seeing SCV all of a sudden show that same frustration is what made me confident to not want to push him anymore...because it was frustrating af lol
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ooops duplicate post (did reply with quote instead of edit) not used to being able to edit here lol
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somewhat, MM was ignoring blink which makes 0 sense...they usually go at eachother. He jumped at my slip of saying "weaponsmith" but ignored blink flat out saying "i am scum". He tunneled in too hard. Then over the course of like the 5000 pages of me and SCV arguing, i started putting out strategies to confirm it and MM wasnt jumping in on those. MM loves to strategize as town and come up with plans, he has commented in the last FM game that he missed some of the older players because he missed doing exactly that, so i started getting more and more susp that the more strategies i put out, the less he addressed them.
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well he was rigger....he had to get rid of the confirmed towns somehow. he pretty much got cornered into doing risky moves. He took the highest risk 1, but the other alternative was shooting yagami or SCV. and with SCV giving guns, i woulda felt safe SCV wouldent be the first to jump/hammer - and yagami was pushing a lot of other people so most likely easier to "lead off" in his eyes.
no he played great honestly. It was purely meta, if I had never played with MM before I would have probably kept pushing that SCV lynch lol And it was also because SCV fought so hard as well, if SCV didn't push back as hard as he did, than I would have kept pushing his lynch. It was a combination of things.
Hmm ok. That makes perfect sense.
No, but I know how you play. You just post random shit without any reasoning behind it or whatsoever.
"I can read minds, don't ask me to prove because it can't, just trust me that I can because I say so" - you in a nutshell. Just post random shit without any logic or reasoning or evidence to support it.
You said it yourself that he usually loves to strategize and is being decisive and aggressive, while in this game he was indecisive, reserved and only acting confused. Like literaly opposite of his usual town play? If we ignore the SCV part and just focus on the meta part - I honestly don't see how he could have made it more obvious if what you say is true. I understand you are polite, but "great play" is not the proper description, I hope you agree with that.
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At the end of the day, you think that both claims are town.
Yet you assume a mafia wouldn't make that claim?
Because they would fear that townies wouldn't think they both town claims?
Jeezus, people. Please tell me I am not the only one who sees the problem in that logic.
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I feel that after a night, pairings are what we should be looking at and explore - no mafia would be a lone wolf, simply because his two other teammates would be in a delicate position because of that. I went through a lot of pairings with SCV being the base for most of them since he was SO SCUMMY but the only one that really did make sense was SCV/Blink... which was way too obvious to be a real pairing. That's why I didn't push for SCV even though he was the key point in my theories
That is also possible - but it doesn't really make much sense, because it's an extremely risky strategy to do something like that, and given that it was almost as clear as broad daylight on D2 that we would Lynch either Distorted or Scv, it wasn't a terribly smart thing to do.
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You need to think like a wolf in a herd of sheeps. When you have 24hours of thinking and elaborating strategies, you don't come out in the day and buddy hard your scum partner to push another lynch.
Because 1- it'll make the both of you VERY suspicious, which sucks.
And 2- if one flips scum, the other is sure to be lynched.
So coming off to day 2, it was almost certain scum would try to use the shit Distorted threw to buddy town votes, not to out them all in the second day!
And I'm pretty sad Naz got sheep slot, he's brillant
So many "scum wouldn't do that because this and that, therefore he or they are town" assumptions. I can't agree with any of them because of the "therefore he or they are town" part.
I guess my opinion stays put. If MM wasn't so obvious, then there wouldn't be a reason not to think that Blink+SCV are a scum team on Day2. I know you guys gave a lot of reasons, I just don't agree with them. Heck, Blink was even the one who suggested to Distorted that SCV isn't scum... how I wish they both were LOL.
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I vote fielz for mvp in this one for his first game he played super well made one mistake but still won in the end for town
Scv could've been scum, but it was quite unlikely, he did too many strange things to be mafia - what kind of mafia would reveal they gave a gun to Efe?
The kind that wanted to make town believe they were town
Hm. Meta stuff though: if I was town, I would ACTUALLY have blink as my highest town read, close to Fielzanks. This use of WIFOM wasn't scummy. He was scumhunting more than everyone.
Another meta note: My playstyle is to be VERY involved in the game... which doesn't guarentee I will be here 24/7. So if I get less active, don't forget we all have real lives lol. I noticed I always get scumread by most people when I get a bit busy IRL. Pls stop :P
WHAT?! Um no. I did NOT gamethrow. I wanted to get Scv down, then Distorted because Scv was town. But I didn't want to look like a scum lining up lynches either, so I wouldn't die to Distorted, who would manipulate others in lynching me. He's better than me at manipulation. My lynch was meta more than anything imo... I just give too much as town I guess now I can't play scum lol
I was actually acting like myself. As I said I would actually townread blink. And actually scumread noz. The only "not-myselfish" thing was to refuse to make a plan with Distorted. Because else I'd have solved game for town. Gg hope I won't be scum with you again, you'll get my head off lol...
You didn't have as much free time available as previous games, but you still made an effort keeping up with the post count while not making an efford to keep up with all the reading and info available?
People felt your uninvolvement while it appeared that your post count was normal.
I think it was a grave error from you to make so many empty generalized posts like "I think we should be careful" and "I'm not sure".
For all the 3 players who have experience with you - Distorted, Blink, SCV - for all of them you felt off.
I think if you have less time then don't make posts just for the sake of making posts. People can feel your uninvolvement. You wouldn't be lynched just because you have less posts than usual.
Yes, sorry, my bad. Gamethrow is definetly the wrong word, but idk what is the right one. I mean like - you were in such a good position, but you throw it away by not being like your usual self. I know you say you were like yourself, but you obviously weren't if all players who know you called you out - Blink, SCV, Distorted.
Even me saying that you were obvious was wrong too, since it took 24 hours of arguing and most townies still needed you to be pointed out at them to see you as possible scum.
What do you mean? All you had to do was to agree that SCV and Blink look scummy. Even Distorted could have perhaps been lynched first 10 hours of Day2.
Perhaps you would have solved game for Town if you were Town.
But you were scum and chose to post almost nothing other than "I'm not sure" posts.
The golden middle line would have been you just agreeing that SCV is scum and get him lynched. Day3 focus on Distorted/Blink. I just don't see anyone being focused on you unless Distorted finds your scum team with his EoD pressure tactics.
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