ok so that clears it up pretty well.
@Fury what is your opinion on lynching voss?
Acually, I will post up this theory. I was going to wait to hear responses first, but since this is pretty much MYLO, have at it.
N3 voss tried to shoot Yuki. Yuki was town, I was attacked and healed that night as well. The ONLY possible way that Yuki did not die from Voss shooting is because the consig used the "stop all ballistics" heat action.
The next night, I shot Fury and Voss claims he shot Efekannn. Well the only thing that is left is a vest that the consig has. The stopping ballistics heat action HAD to have been used the night before or explain to me HOW Yuki survived?
Voss is the GF, so he cant use the gun and shoot some1 else at the same time. That is why we are not seeing 2 Mafia kills. Fury vested last night because I made it blatantly obvious who I was shooting if Yuki popped up town.
All of hybrids actions are accounted for so Yuki never got a vest from him.
Rather than risking for a ML on Fury, I would rather go for Voss. The above is my case/reason why.
LOL WHAT.
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Are you literally scum claiming?
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You should have let efkan go, you were near confirmed town.
Unknown, efkan is the consig, and dust is gf. I can be more eloquent in a few hours when I wake.
Do. not. Quick. hammer. Me.
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Good night
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oh me *dist
Nah, hybrid confirmed he gave me a gun, whad confirmed he healed me. 0 way I can be scum.
BUT I am curious how both of your targets survived, when Yuki was confirmed town and (not healed) - only possible way in that scenario is mafia used the stopping ballistics. The use of the GF ability was confirmed N1/D2.
The shot you just took at efekannn does not exist, or efekannn would be dead. How would he still be alive? If efekannn was the Consig, then how did Fury survive my shot? nobody healed him.
We had the right team pretty much - RLVG, Voss, but between Nawas lack of information and Yuki's trying to keep "just supicious enough" or w/e to avoid being killed I was easily steered off of Voss and onto Yuki.
When I look back at the posts (some of the randoms I posted) of the Blink lynch, it wasnt until Voss was being pushed that RLVG started pushing on Nawa; it was a perfect bussing target. Voss was suspect as well as RLVG, and the pressure was on Voss. What better way to redeem credibility than to give up an AFK Mafia who was about to get Modkilled? (at that time we were lead to believe the replacement did not exist). And if Voss was lynched over Nawa/blink, that leaves RLVG with a pretty much AFK teammate who could potentially be removed.
I have been susp of Unknown ALL game, the playstyle seemed off so i was in a pretty confused spot here. If Voss would have claimed to have shot Fury as well, then I would be fked in providing much, other than lynching Fury and hope for the best. But Voss claiming to have shot Efekannn makes absolutely 0 sense. I mean it makes almost no sense even if I didn't shoot Fury. If Voss was a towny with a gun, he would have shot unknown, pretty sure we can safely assume that lol seems like even unknown was surprised at Voss' answer of shooting efekannn.
That's my Subjective theory on the day 2 lynch. But my previous post is the reasoning behind why I still label Voss and (instead of yuki) Fury.
@Efekannn02 : If you are not going to be around for end of day you can leave your vote on Voss.
-Voss is claiming that he shot you, you survived and is saying that you are Consigliere and you vested last night, that is how
you survived.
@Hybrid Sure you will make it to EoD so no point voting unless you may not be around for it. I still want to hear Unknowns opinion and Furys reaction/opinion as well.
@efekannn you also now have Whads powers, I recommend protecting Hybrid since he is willing to sacrifice his win for us, we can make him win WITH us by keeping him alive
My Reads Say Its Either Unknown And Voss Or Unknown And Fury But Since Fury Was Nawa I Cant Say Except....
UKNOWN AND VOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs
IDC AND IDK If Voss Attacked Me IDK How I Survived And IDC IF THAT REALLY HAPPENED!!!
-vote Unknown1234
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Everyone Vote Unknown1234 Im Gonna Heal Hibird Tonight
If Unknown Is Town Its Voss And Fury
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Voss Dont Vote Unknown Or Ill See You As Evil
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I Never Said To Iced That Im Gonna Vest I Never Got One Anyways...
GODDAMN HYBRID!
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I’d only rather vote Fury because even though I don’t see anyone else being scum, Fury is more likely to persuade people to not vote him than Voss. And I really wanted Nawa dead but nobody ever listened.
I really am not understanding what he's saying, but you saying that I vested has me even more confused by the setup. I'm just not going to trust myself with thinking out setup inconsistencies since it's confusing me about what has actually happened this game.
If he's WIFOM'ing, I don't understand why.
I'm more inclined to go with my gut on Unknown for scum. Efe/Voss both confuse me. I'll wait for clarification before I jump on either of them - since my gut says unknown.
I'm FloodingRain on sc2, sorry for the confusion <3
Originally Posted by Fury
Ok CONFIRMED information.
-N1 the godfather used his heat action to RB everyone.
*proof by Whad not getting RB information and tried to protect MM N1, and he died. Spruance also got no feedback, and hybrids first
gun? did not go through.
Hybrid gave Voss a gun.
Hybrid gave me a gun.
N3: Voss "shoots Yuki" but yuki does not die. Only possible explanation(since yuki was town and could not have vested as consig) is mafia used their "stop all balistics" heat action.
N4: I shoot Fury and Voss shoots efekannn. You are still alive somehow, and Efekannn is still alive somehow. So the only possible expanation for that is Mafia used heat action "stop ballistics". but then how did Yuki not die? no protectives are alive to protect him.
There is a paradox there! You are alive because you vested last night as consig, and voss never shot yuki or efekannn. He is godfather, which is why Mafia only had 1 kill. RLVGs heat action gave you a vest.
I can't see any other explanation to any of it.
N1: hybrid tried to give a gun to Whad, but was RBed. N2: hybrid gave gun to voss --- N3: hybrid gave gun to me.
No room in there for him to give a vest that is USABLE by last night.
@Hybrid did u give a gun out last night?
Until that theory is picked apart, Voss is the lynch. Because it is possible that nothing was used N3, he did not shoot yuki, and N4 they used the Heat action to frame Fury as using a vest. that IS a possibility. Which would most likely leave unknown as the last mafia after Voss. But either way, Voss is a confirmed lynch.
If anyone has a gun shoot Fury tonight - if he pops up town lynch unknown tomorrow. That seems to confirm the win.
Oh now you've done it. You've went and summoned Hybrid.
@Hybrid . Hello!
I know you've been loyal to the town for a very long time, and seemed to be my friend for quite a while. Can we remain friends? The schtick I pulled on the first day put you in a very good position to win the entire game.
BELIEVE ME when I say that if you had claimed neutral on your own, or via pressure, you would have been lynched. That's just the meta on this site. You've done good work in changing that meta, but that you wouldn't have been able to prove that if you weren't alive.
If you're still unsure, there are some other things we can talk about!!
-Why you're loyalty to the town is misguided.
-Why you siding with Americans doesn't hurt future neutral plays. (Can of worms though, I wouldn't ask about this)
I'd rather this conversation just be between us!
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So Its Fury And Voss Then GET THEM!
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hey unknown, like 80% of the things I did in this game, I'd do again as town. The only thing I would have dropped is my bid against Distorted earlier though. Although next time, if he's making people mass claim I'd just policy lynch.
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I know, I liked your neutral claim; especially since it was the first claim of the game. You never should have voted for Spruance though. Distorted was really scummy and if you didn’t plop a vote on Spruance saying “I’m keeping options open for you” you might have convinced me.
i'll follow the pr if the alternative is going onto another pr claim not deemed safe by the clear. I'm not saying 'you shouldn't have been able to see through me' because that'd be insulting to you. I probably would have done something else subconsciously different to justify my vote on Parker.
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