@Gyrlander , we need you!!!
Oh, exeter is lurking.
CHOO CHOO, THE DARK GOD CALLS THOSE RIGHTEOUS AND FAITHFUL! FLOCK TO THE DARK MESSIAHS ARMS!
It's just a joke. There were substantial arguments presented by SCV, Piayer and I on a Nawa lynch on pages 47 and 48. Also, inputs from trophy and yourself supporting the lynch.
Don't get steered astray by a little joke.
Just a little joke. Certainly I'll stop LOL.
^ This shit made me LOL so hard when I read it last night. Also, it was one of my first thoughts. "Is this deliberate?!"
^ This.
If I recall correctly, the only other person to defend Hybrid was myself. The difference between Nawa and I is the rationale behind our decision. I had numerous posts substantiating my arguments, but Nawa presented little reason to refuse a lynch on Hybrid, apart from "gut feeling".
It just feels as though Nawa's Mafia and already knew Hybrid is Town, so he refused to lynch him to buy credibility later.
Your friendly neighbourhood Asian.
Hm, Im off to the land of dreams. Ill check in later. Also good points Exeter.
CHOO CHOO, THE DARK GOD CALLS THOSE RIGHTEOUS AND FAITHFUL! FLOCK TO THE DARK MESSIAHS ARMS!
From what I've seen on pages 50-54, Nawa and MM sound desperate but do one of the following:
(1) Present weak defense.
(2) Say "This is bullshit" without explaining why.
(3) Deflect to other things.
(4) Completely ignore existing cases made against them and demand explanations that are already there.
All of which just makes them smell smellier and smellier.
Nawa and MM. Let's go.
Your friendly neighbourhood Asian.
I'm back guys, thanks for not ending day early ^^
Guess my project of erasing all memory and rebuild from scratch was a bit ambitious for the time I have before falling asleep on my keyboard.
I'll start by an iso of Trophy and MM looking for interesting bits I could have missed.
I don't feel the strength to also iso SCV at this point, I may do after all else but don't think it will bring much fresh insight =/
Also gyr/Unknown didn't see you use daytime much so far, we NEED more input from you both to clarify shit
Nawa, still not buying your defense, but still I'll look for your past contributions to see if I missed something (atm you're so obviously scum it's disturbing, really don't get what would make MM think otherwise so maybe I missed smth, maybe you're just both scum but this thought is too tempting to be automatic, tbh I'm still traumatized by my last game where it was the towniest of us all who flipped scum in the end, don't want to be played again so need to put serious thoughts into this)
rereading #953, it was a fair post from trophy imo
Being on Hybrid train isn't a problem for me, only thing we know about Hybrid train is there was probably maf & cit mixed in it: not helpful at all.
You forgot Gyr in your list btw.
I still think you're not doing enough scumhunt, Nawa being your only scum read is lazy esp how you nuance it. Afawk there is 3 mafia in the wild, we could have lynched Nawa already but town need to do more than that at this point, we lost 3 town already and got zero sheriff claim so far. Dig deeper! Maf won't be obvious.
However I agree on the fact postcount is a BS tool in itself, content > quantity indeed. SCV implying otherwise is full of BS and self-interested. As it's easy to farm postcount, less easy to word actual reflection. Also it's okay to not have tons of time to put into the game. Still waiting for you to take more risks with your reads, but still, this post looked like a genuine attempt to help, so it's enough to unvote you atm. It's actually better than what you did last game where we lynched you as Marshall
Also appreciated your insight on sheriff tickets, idk how many of us have wasted tickets on those sheriffs but damn, if you didn't had it, and I didn't, someone MUST have had it at some point. If that someone is still alive, please speak up, even to NS someone: any fresh insight would be welcome at this point.
-vote Dr Unknown
Man we need you to contribute the same way trophy did, and it seems he needed to be voted before doing so. Note it's also true about Gyr, ok Hybrid LW him his points but afaik Hybrid had no way to know his alignment. Doc, I know you have heavy IRL with your studies and few time to allocate to this, but considering how critical today is, you're still TOO quiet atm. Help us fight the paranoia, scum may be everywhere and today town just can't afford to just lurk & sheep with their town reads. Need CONTENT, even taking 30mn to smartphone-type a top 3 would be of big help to us
MM I have no way to 100% guarantee/demonstrate Nawa is scum. But Exec and I gave leads on why it is most likely.
Also, catched somewhere you were susp of Exe saying "THIS IS MY GAMBLE", but in the context it actually made sense, obv it works both ways (what a town would say/what a maf would say to appear to not have perfect information) but it connected with how I felt about this game, it is indeed a "lottery" because noone will ever be confirmed, everyone can claim mayor, maf can be sheriff for a night, etc. Apart setup/flips/our own alignments we got no true info, only our own interpretations, hence why "gambling" is not only fair but a necessity.
Nawa, the only thing in your favor atm is you're actually participating today. But still see you on the defensive, please work on refutation of my D1 wall about SCV if you really are town and want me to believe you are, also share other leads and the whys. Your explanation of why you defended Hybrid felt a bit wonky, but I don't get the way you play tbh, in 8-2-2 game you lost me.
Thanks for explaining what I was too lazy to find the words for to explain.
In a game where Mafia will try their best to imitate Town, and Town may inadvertently pass off as Mafia, it really is all a gamble. An informed gamble, based on reads and probabilities, but ultimately still a gamble.
It may be that, for all our substantial reasoning and shit, Nawa may still flip Town.
But it doesn't matter, we're just doing the best we can with the limited information we got. No matter how hard you rack your brains and second-guess yourself, it's not going to make new information pop out. And unlike Nawa and MM, SCV, Piayer and I have been substantiating our arguments damn well.
And yeah, the Mafia could do that too, WOULD do that too to pass off as Town, but it's not like Nawa and MM are putting up a good fight to make me doubt myself.
It really is a circular argument. At the end of the day, just trust yourself and your judgement. As long as you actually put thought behind your decisions, it's all good.
SCV, Piayer and I have presented our arguments, Nawa and MM have presented their defense, trophy and Dr Unknown have given their inputs, make your decision.
P.S. Don't worry, this doesn't automatically absolve SCV and Piayer (or myself) from all suspicion. Assuming Nawa and MM really are Mafia, there's still one rat hiding somewhere. But we can flush that rat out later.
Your friendly neighbourhood Asian.
TL;DR
Using the existing information that I have, I have decided that Nawa and MM are Mafia.
Unless new information pops out (and this does not include shitposts designed to sway my emotions or make me doubt myself), my decision isn't going to change.
Your friendly neighbourhood Asian.
Now, let's talk about points, tickets and night actions.
@SuperJack If I win the Gold ticket again, does my 2 votes get doubled to 4 votes?
I spent 0 points on Day 1, reasoning that everyone would rush to blow their points and run out later. Instead of spending all 5 points on a higher chance to win a ticket which wouldn't even be that useful that early in the game, I decided to save up for later, when other players can't compete.
I spent 1 point on D2 on the Gold ticket, which I somehow won. Lol @ Hybrid.
I now have 9 points, which at this crucial point in this game, I will invest into ONE ticket colour to guarantee I get it. The question is which one?
If the Gold ticket doubles my 2 votes to 4 votes, I will definitely pump all 9 points into that one and count on a previous BG/Doc winner to guard me tonight.
Otherwise, I'll pump all 9 points into Purple tix and shoot either MM or my next suspect dead tonight. Not specifying who it is so I don't give the Mafia a target to defend, assuming they won the Blue tickets in the previous nights.
Your friendly neighbourhood Asian.
Also I will all my points to Piayer if I die tonight.
Your friendly neighbourhood Asian.
I'm lost lurking in the past
Back in the day (1) Unknow sounded fair..
So far dunno what to keep of D1, SCV wagon was all the rage back then.
@Exeter350 Aw thank you =D even if that's more wifom for Blue Ticket Doctor.
On that note we shouldn't give up on him, imo if town got NK & Doc the comebacks may become real. Maf will probably want the extra NK, but as we're majority "secret ballot" means we can contest those and hope for the best.
Still no certitude about @MM, man you're so cryptic lol. Your blue text, your shitpost, several logic-flawed things said but I also saw some objective contribution. So really idk, still lurking past, null read atm
I'll drop my vote on Nawa in 6 hours time, with or without input from the quiet ones.
Your friendly neighbourhood Asian.
I see unknown lurking and not posting again.
CHOO CHOO, THE DARK GOD CALLS THOSE RIGHTEOUS AND FAITHFUL! FLOCK TO THE DARK MESSIAHS ARMS!
Also where is gyrlander? Lol
CHOO CHOO, THE DARK GOD CALLS THOSE RIGHTEOUS AND FAITHFUL! FLOCK TO THE DARK MESSIAHS ARMS!
CHOO CHOO, THE DARK GOD CALLS THOSE RIGHTEOUS AND FAITHFUL! FLOCK TO THE DARK MESSIAHS ARMS!
Past messed with my mind
Spoiler : #1086 @Exeter :
/upd SCV yup, going to sleep soon.
You didn't reminded me what do you think about MM and why.
Didn't know you wanted my opinion on it. If your asking me MM was eager to hop on hybrid train. He flipped town and in like 30 minutes of day starting was trying to start a train on me. Has consistently shitposted all game with few exceptions. Deflects from answering actual pointed posts of evidence and just spams where's the evidence. He's scum in my books.
CHOO CHOO, THE DARK GOD CALLS THOSE RIGHTEOUS AND FAITHFUL! FLOCK TO THE DARK MESSIAHS ARMS!
@Marshmallow Marshall 's arguments are in pages 42-44 if anyone's wondering.
I have spoken my piece on the "SCV is too scummy to be scum" thing before, and I don't think there's anything left to say.
This is an okay point.
But taking into consideration the rest of your arguments:
(1) SCV is evil for lynching Hybrid.
(2) SB16 was SCV's most vocal accuser so SCV killed him.
(3) Post counts.
Still smells smelly to me.
Actually, now I'm more inclined to lynch MM now. Not so sure about Nawa or Trophy anymore.
I think I'm gonna pump 5-6 points into Gold tix just to deny other people double votes, regardless of Mafia or Town, then 3-4 points into Purple tix to make sure Mafia doesn't get another NK.
Your friendly neighbourhood Asian.
The possibility that SCV and Piayer are both Mafia has occurred to me.
One could argue that they're both really outspoken because they are the ones with the most interest in the game as Mafia. In contrast, players like Gyrlander and Dr Unknown are quiet because they have little interest in the game as Town.
But then you could also argue that SCV and Piayer are really outspoken because they really care about deducing the evils as Town, while Gyrlander and Dr Unknown are quiet because they're Mafia trying to avoid drawing attention.
It's neither here nor there.
I'll just gamble on MM and Nawa being Mafia instead of SCV and Piayer, and hope for the best.
Your friendly neighbourhood Asian.
Your friendly neighbourhood Asian.