S-FM 233: 8-2-2

[PIayer]

Alright, since there is people in here, I'll tease you with the bit of my wall about Hybrid

1/ The Subplot: Mesk & Hybrid
Mesk obviously claimed Cit, now I don't really know the meta about this but from what I've gathered it seems like standard play... Whatever you role is I assume you have lynch immunity d1, so fine be a Cit for now. I believe Hybrid when he say it was shitposting, I don't believe you're linked to Hybrid in any way (+ now we know for a fact Lovers don't know their lover yet), imo you're just playing with him and we'll see where he goes.

Hybrid, on the other hand. I'm okay with you shitposting to make the thread live, but I've picked scary bits. It's not a case, but reflections...

Ok, so many people online, no one writes shit. I ll go on with my shit posting.

I have nothing to shitpost

While I'm okay with shitposting, I got a "let all know how I wanted to contribute so much but couldn't because of people" vibe from this. But in itself it is of little value.
#69 was the darkest post imo:

WHY NOT? It's been said by host. So there s no way in hell it can be fake. Also if there would ve been to 3 tp in this twon why bother make 3 TI? I agree with otaku

I know a bit about chaos, and to me this looks so much like an attempt to instillate chaos. SJ is 100% valid in his reasoning, still you don't argue, just go "nop that s ridicilous".
MM had a saying I found true:

You are definetly acting to confuse the Town... SJ is right.

As I told you already, I think you're a good player, and atm I can't tell if this is the "scummy citizen waiting to be choochoo'd to get real", the "lol im just shitposting chill, & too scummy to be scum" dragonhead mastermind, or the plain old Jester. Afterall, SJ's point stands, we got to trust the host (meta talking shouldn't even be a thing except to confuse town and deflect the actual matter) and until proven otherwise we got 33% for a Jester in the setup. Should there be a Jester, atm you're the prime candidate by far in my book. Didn't see you contribute much to the town so far, all I see is shitpost (okay) and deception (not okay). Why would you be so deceiving to town unless to be lynchbait. It's actually hurting the town imo, and if it's all part of a big scumhunt plan, honestly I can't see it.

[PIayer]

Interesting. The person who is connected to the lover is going to be looking for people trying to grab their attention. So we have to look out for people strangely requesting others peoples attention.

SJ be my lover. Please <3

[SuperJack]

To be transparent since conversation will likely lull during the night-time.

I've rolled a neutral role in every game prior to this one, never rolled town before. Scumhunting is strange to me as someone who has only:
A) Played from a third person perspective
B) Read from a third person perspective

Not to discredit any of the reads I make. I will say if I am not confident, but I believe I have a fairly strong sense for catching things that are out of place.

I won't add any more unnecessary information to what is already extraneous, but I would like to hear from new or moderately new players about their current stance and confidence.

It's really weird the way you worded it.
You previously where neutral but you never played town before.
Yet it's worded so your not claiming what your alignment is, rather you avoided it yet made it look like you are suggesting your town. When intact you are not claiming any alignment.

[Hybrid]

Alright, since there is people in here, I'll tease you with the bit of my wall about Hybrid

1/ The Subplot: Mesk & Hybrid
Mesk obviously claimed Cit, now I don't really know the meta about this but from what I've gathered it seems like standard play... Whatever you role is I assume you have lynch immunity d1, so fine be a Cit for now. I believe Hybrid when he say it was shitposting, I don't believe you're linked to Hybrid in any way (+ now we know for a fact Lovers don't know their lover yet), imo you're just playing with him and we'll see where he goes.

Hybrid, on the other hand. I'm okay with you shitposting to make the thread live, but I've picked scary bits. It's not a case, but reflections...


While I'm okay with shitposting, I got a "let all know how I wanted to contribute so much but couldn't because of people" vibe from this. But in itself it is of little value.
#69 was the darkest post imo:

I know a bit about chaos, and to me this looks so much like an attempt to instillate chaos. SJ is 100% valid in his reasoning, still you don't argue, just go "nop that s ridicilous".
MM had a saying I found true:
As I told you already, I think you're a good player, and atm I can't tell if this is the "scummy citizen waiting to be choochoo'd to get real", the "lol im just shitposting chill, & too scummy to be scum" dragonhead mastermind, or the plain old Jester. Afterall, SJ's point stands, we got to trust the host (meta talking shouldn't even be a thing except to confuse town and deflect the actual matter) and until proven otherwise we got 33% for a Jester in the setup. Should there be a Jester, atm you're the prime candidate by far in my book. Didn't see you contribute much to the town so far, all I see is shitpost (okay) and deception (not okay). Why would you be so deceiving to town unless to be lynchbait. It's actually hurting the town imo, and if it's all part of a big scumhunt plan, honestly I can't see it.

Ok this posts replay has to wait home also there are other things with MM that i didnt like this game buuut i ll let him shine x)

[SuperJack]

SJ be my lover. Please <3

Sure thing.

[Hybrid]

It's really weird the way you worded it.
You previously where neutral but you never played town before.
Yet it's worded so your not claiming what your alignment is, rather you avoided it yet made it look like you are suggesting your town. When intact you are not claiming any alignment.

The person hatrs claiming now wants the people wallpossting to claim a role?

[Hybrid]

Shit realplayermurderer is here imo he s suspect num 2 or 3 cuz of sheepin btw

[Hybrid]

I really liked how player speaks btw add ms on bnet plz i speak differently in sc2 my acc name is misery btw

[Hybrid]

Alright, since there is people in here, I'll tease you with the bit of my wall about Hybrid

1/ The Subplot: Mesk & Hybrid
Mesk obviously claimed Cit, now I don't really know the meta about this but from what I've gathered it seems like standard play... Whatever you role is I assume you have lynch immunity d1, so fine be a Cit for now. I believe Hybrid when he say it was shitposting, I don't believe you're linked to Hybrid in any way (+ now we know for a fact Lovers don't know their lover yet), imo you're just playing with him and we'll see where he goes.

Hybrid, on the other hand. I'm okay with you shitposting to make the thread live, but I've picked scary bits. It's not a case, but reflections...


While I'm okay with shitposting, I got a "let all know how I wanted to contribute so much but couldn't because of people" vibe from this. But in itself it is of little value.
#69 was the darkest post imo:

I know a bit about chaos, and to me this looks so much like an attempt to instillate chaos. SJ is 100% valid in his reasoning, still you don't argue, just go "nop that s ridicilous".
MM had a saying I found true:
As I told you already, I think you're a good player, and atm I can't tell if this is the "scummy citizen waiting to be choochoo'd to get real", the "lol im just shitposting chill, & too scummy to be scum" dragonhead mastermind, or the plain old Jester. Afterall, SJ's point stands, we got to trust the host (meta talking shouldn't even be a thing except to confuse town and deflect the actual matter) and until proven otherwise we got 33% for a Jester in the setup. Should there be a Jester, atm you're the prime candidate by far in my book. Didn't see you contribute much to the town so far, all I see is shitpost (okay) and deception (not okay). Why would you be so deceiving to town unless to be lynchbait. It's actually hurting the town imo, and if it's all part of a big scumhunt plan, honestly I can't see it.

After nop it s rid. Everything is serious i really think mm is exe also if i were to be jester i d just claim it right away whrn i startes this game i also did that in mod mafia stoopud mafia doesnt kill you and u get a free win in 2 2 1 scnerious loool

[SuperJack]

The person hatrs claiming now wants the people wallpossting to claim a role?

Alignment does not equal role.
Nice try in trying to twist my words.

[PIayer]

I really liked how player speaks btw add ms on bnet plz i speak differently in sc2 my acc name is misery btw

KNEW YOU HAD THE ABILITY TO SPEAK DIFFERENTLY AT WILL! HAHA!
(on a side note I will gladly do, but not before gameover =p)

Sure thing.

*giggle*

You heart voted for me already, you know it's true. Flattery pays <3

[RLVG]

Lol, damnit. I quoted many, and then I lost the quote progress.
It's not much important. I was calling out on someone for vig on benign, pointing out that Lover could be town aligned. Also, lover meta is stupid, it's pure speculation.
If it doesn't even exist, it's just a red herring both for scum and town.

Also, the whole deal with mesk / hybrid is kinda stupid. It's just shitposters getting to know eachothers lol. Marshmallow is a bit weird tho, I do get the exe vibe from it.

[PIayer]

So far I agree with your points RLVG

Any more insight on xramza, otakudeepweb69 (sorry the temptation was too strong), scvmurderer, mrtrophywife?

[PIayer]

*edit without edit*
I agree except on MM being exe, didn't see that at my first read but will look into it

[Scvmurderer]

Interesting. The person who is connected to the lover is going to be looking for people trying to grab their attention. So we have to look out for people strangely requesting others peoples attention.

Notice Me superjack, I need your attention.

[SuperJack]

Lol, damnit. I quoted many, and then I lost the quote progress.
It's not much important. I was calling out on someone for vig on benign, pointing out that Lover could be town aligned. Also, lover meta is stupid, it's pure speculation.
If it doesn't even exist, it's just a red herring both for scum and town.

Also, the whole deal with mesk / hybrid is kinda stupid. It's just shitposters getting to know eachothers lol. Marshmallow is a bit weird tho, I do get the exe vibe from it.

Doesn't MM usually have annoying interactions with Mesk? I keep remembering her being frustrated as his comments to her.

Also Lover is dangerous, attacked to scum make it another scum role. Making it a 4 scum team.

[SuperJack]

Notice Me superjack, I need your attention.

Great hop on the SJ team we will rule this land! I will even allow you to call it a train.

[Scvmurderer]

Notice Me superjack, I need your attention.

Oh crapl that's a lot of posts between my page refer. What u all doing up at 5 am or is every1 here European?

[SuperJack]

It's really weird the way you worded it.
You previously where neutral but you never played town before.
Yet it's worded so your not claiming what your alignment is, rather you avoided it yet made it look like you are suggesting your town. When intact you are not claiming any alignment.

-vote xramza

We should all start placing our votes on people so that we get better vote analysis.

[SuperJack]

Oh crapl that's a lot of posts between my page refer. What u all doing up at 5 am or is every1 here European?

About half I would Sayish. I'm

[Scvmurderer]

-vote xramza

We should all start placing our votes on people so that we get better vote analysis.

I'm still voting mesk

[Scvmurderer]

Back to work for me, I'll check in every few hours at breaks.

[Hybrid]

Alignment does not equal role.
Nice try in trying to twist my words.

It s obv he d claim town so he doesnt ne ed to say it he only needs to be revealed is his role so that s a weird thing you do

[PIayer]

Another bit of my wall
I feel it's okay to break it into fewer bits

2/ Those Who Want Town To Be Happy, aka wont-lynch-yet category
SJ: my love you deserve the very best, so there are my raw notes about you, without any alteration: #57 pressure me! cf "scheming schemes". a good way to start? what about poking people who haven't speak yet instead? still can see proper reasoning. gut town lean on this #59 clever imo. #61 purpose is cryptic. #68 +1 town point for that. #71-73 makes a lot of sense imo. #84 100% objective rational vibe. Overall read: town cred counter over 9000, so either a pro Cit or a very mastermind, such pro wow Dragonhead. SJ is screaming "TOWN" either way and overall is the most useful to town atm, so doesn't matter if very mastermind DH.

xramza: Gave objectively pertinent contribution about D1 lynch. #56 and #127 got a town vibe from these posts. I agree with most of it except the fact MM is not a major read at all atm imo. To me it's either a town lean or a triad literally playing like town atm, still his behaviour is helping town even if slightly imo.

Otakudweeb69: proposed "cop cover strat" then retracted; #53 slightly ambivalent about neutral imo. Still appears to trying to contribute in meaningful way even if few content. I'm bouncing between slight town lean and null read, will look forward to future contributions. Still, in this category because not threatening atm and seems trying to help.

[PIayer]

That's why I would be glad if you explained you though process on xramza darling

[Hybrid]

Anyways i m town and i love how mesk plays imma afk for an hpur now copper

[SuperJack]

It s obv he d claim town so he doesnt ne ed to say it he only needs to be revealed is his role so that s a weird thing you do

He didn't though. He worded it to avoid claiming it, weather knowingly or unknowingly. Scum slips can happen like that.

[Hybrid]

He didn't though. He worded it to avoid claiming it, weather knowingly or unknowingly. Scum slips can happen like that.

Ohhhhhh i m usinf phone in class zo i mstill afl

[Hybrid]

Btw player havent u seen me in the nickname of misery at doodad hunt or mafia?

[PIayer]

There's the end of my wall

3/ Tribe of the Null Reads

mrtrophywife:
Responding to xramza:

Jumping to conclusions and starting a bandwagon pretty much always goes in the scums favor. Wouldn't do that

Read that as either null or slightly scummy as the rationale behind xramza's belief has not been refuted yet afaik. About #123 I believe you but think it's irrelevant in the end. Please contribute more if you want me to believe you're helping town.

Dr Unknown: literally unknown, I won't vote you because remember the noob block, but you better start to contribute if you don't want to start looking suspicious imo. Share your thoughts!

Scvmurderer: also null, I can't tell if #118 is filler or relevant, so I thought about how it may be a subtle mix. Please post more relevant stuff if you don't want to fall into category 4

MM: First I saw you clearly acting town, trying to make the discussion happen, genuinely I want to believe. But your good friend Hybrid also used the same motive for his shitpost, and even if the form is very different (you sound very townish, he's sounding scummy af) I believe the content of that stance is similar: basically to scream "look at me town, I'm helping!"
Now the interesting thing is, so far Hybrid didn't try to help, but I want to believe you did try, and I don't see a scenario when your play have equity while you're not town. (townies, I may miss something by saying this so I look forward to your opinions)
#80 I believe it's not THAT idiot especially that early in the game. The funny fact is, I actually gave you some scum lean points for defending me. I had done very little for the town at this moment and here you come almost instant townreading me. Found it far more weird than SJ's paranoïa.
.. Unless it was just an attempt to mimic Mesk play on Hybrid, buddying & looking for reactions, but in that case I didn't understand it better than the original =p
Your post #83 is right imo, until the Mesk & Hybrid part which I don't buy (cf my earlier post).
#106 I would have agreed but quiet people really are the most menacing atm imo (wink at RLVG)

Update on mm: maybe that's because I'm a noob, but overall I want to hear what he has to say before calling him exe. Hybrid is almost begging to be lynched afterall and instillating chaos as stated above, no need to be exe to want him lynched atm lol. Also even on the mod it would be bad for an exe to be that obvious, so idk if MM would really have played this way (taking the gamble on me) if exe here. Still, you need to precise your thoughts. What if Hybrid was jester? We get that SJ is obvious town but what about the others, and why townread me so early? Because of this you'll stay in this category 'til I read what you have to say.


4/ Tribe of the would-vote

RLVG or TDL for contributing the least. Don't think I forgot anyone?
Please write more RLVG if you want to get into category 2 or 3.




Therefore
-vote TheDarkestLight

(is this how you're doing)
for contributing the least + saying site is dead

[PIayer]

Hybrid, you may belive I'm <Sc2Maf>Player but no. In fact I'm not even Player, I'm PIayer (uppercase i) on my main, and you won't know my NA alt as even I can't remember it atm!

Sorry if anybody lost time stalking <Sc2Maf>Player to get infos on me xD

[Hybrid]

Hybrid, you may belive I'm <Sc2Maf>Player but no. In fact I'm not even Player, I'm PIayer (uppercase i) on my main, and you won't know my NA alt as even I can't remember it atm!

Sorry if anybody lost time stalking <Sc2Maf>Player to get infos on me xD

Now thats the plot twist

[PIayer]

wait 'til SJ come to call it another scheme <3

[PIayer]

-vote TheDarkestLight

That's better this way, you don't just bold + red text, silly me =p

[Hybrid]

Hybrid, you may belive I'm <Sc2Maf>Player but no. In fact I'm not even Player, I'm PIayer (uppercase i) on my main, and you won't know my NA alt as even I can't remember it atm!

Sorry if anybody lost time stalking <Sc2Maf>Player to get infos on me xD

But thwre s one thing how do u know player is on sc2maf since u forgot ur NA acc and he s a new member of sc2maf so u possibly shoukdnt know

Or maybe u are the player that s been playibg single unit blah blah for a while

[Hybrid]

Sj sucks i ll give lead when i m home

[PIayer]

But thwre s one thing how do u know player is on sc2maf since u forgot ur NA acc and he s a new member of sc2maf so u possibly shoukdnt know

Or maybe u are the player that s been playibg single unit blah blah for a while

l
v

wait 'til SJ come to call it another scheme <3

[Hybrid]

-vote TheDarkestLight

That's better this way, you don't just bold + red text, silly me =p

No actually you color it and make it bold

[Hybrid]

Like this -vote MM
Btw game accepts abbrvs.

[Hybrid]

Sj sucks i ll give lead when i m home

Forgot plz forgib

[SuperJack]

Like this -vote MM
Btw game accepts abbrvs.

No it does not. Don't lie.

[PIayer]

Now I gotta sleep

Idk if my "work" was that good but that was my attempt to help.


Will return to say hello before going to work

[Dr Unknown]

Dr Unknown: literally unknown, I won't vote you because remember the noob block, but you better start to contribute if you don't want to start looking suspicious imo. Share your thoughts!

I still hold my position, hybrid is acting weird, mesk isn't replying, AND he is also weird.
Both also have 0 usefulness. My vote would be one of them, but I haven't decided yet

[Hybrid]

Nooooo[oooooooooooıooooooıoıoıoıooooo sad will miss him

[Hybrid]

I still hold my position, hybrid is acting weird, mesk isn't replying, AND he is also weird.
Both also have 0 usefulness. My vote would be one of them, but I haven't decided yet

Before speak plz look at urself as well tge obly people has been usfull to town is piayer and sj so far and i ll be as well soon

[SuperJack]

I still hold my position, hybrid is acting weird, mesk isn't replying, AND he is also weird.
Both also have 0 usefulness. My vote would be one of them, but I haven't decided yet

Could you expand your position and give insight into some other players?

[mrtrophywife]

There was no jumping to conclusions or any bandwagon starting, please explain yourself @mrtrophywife

Not saying there was one, but that doesn't seem like a winning strategy to start. I posted that much earlier in the day when we had little to go with.

[SuperJack]

Not saying there was one, but that doesn't seem like a winning strategy to start. I posted that much earlier in the day when we had little to go with.

So. It was basically a warning not to do X?
What are your thoughts on the game so far?

[Hybrid]

Now that I'm home I will explain why MM is Executioner in my opinion.

Spoiler : Quote #104 post :

I am not convinced. Now I'm thinking about where will my vote go. Since the turkey is sleeping, @Mesk514 will have to tell me who is lover and who is connection. By the way, I still do not exclude the possibility of both being Triad.

Please share your thoughts. For now, only SJ has talked about this.

now as you see he does want to push mesk but however he ends up voting for me accusing both me and mesk as triad. Why would he? Mesk514 was ther one who was online and i was sleeping. It might seem that he wants to have a free lynch on me

Spoiler : Proving now :

... Mesk's message doesn't look like a Lover message. A Lover would defend himself more than that. This g---irl doesn't care about what I said, apparently. I assume it is not her win condition. So if it is not Mesk...

-vote Hybrid

This is a serious vote, not some randoming. I really want to hear @Hybrid defend himself on this. Else, my vote stays on him.

here he says not a random vote but therefore he could have pushed mesk much more maybe he just wanted to see if she ll overextend and defend me but that won t happen no one would do that and i think he should be knowing that. But still he ended up voting for me and not pushing mesk as much as he could. Also there is this one:

Plus, it's the almighty mesk always town, it's known...

I don't think it s sarcasm. It does seem like some confusing talk to make confusion around the town which's a scummy thing.

Spoiler : 2nd Thing about him :

My god, I feel like you're all pleading the Fifth Amendement... SJ wanted information from Player. He never got any. I literally accusated Hybrid, and I got no answer. Mesk gave ONE non-shit post. Hybrid gave 0. You are on trial, guys. SAY SOMETHING!!!

HE KNEW I WAS SLEEPING, he just knew it. But he made town understand the situation like i am not sleeping nor afk and forcing a lynch on me. Isn't that kind of exeish thing to do?

Spoiler : His reads :

Not really. You want substance? There you go.

Town reads
SuperJack
PIayer
xramza

I don't know reads
Otakudweeb69
Scvmurderer
mrtrophywife
Dr Unknown
TheDarkestLight
Other new players
RLVG

Scum reads
Mesk514
Hybrid


Please make a list of your suspects once you have read everything. It will help townies to know who thinks what.

He added PIayer and xramza to his list as town while they didn2t do that much. Why? Isn't that kind of fishy like trying to make grouping around to town to get Mesk or Me to lynched? Even though I didn't said anything scummy and Mesk only acted like a lover she didn't act like a scum that s kinda absurd isn't it?

There are a lot more examples of him pushing on me while i m asleep. It's absoultly a non-townie act which's trying to get free lynch on townie people.

[mrtrophywife]

So. It was basically a warning not to do X?
What are your thoughts on the game so far?

Yes.
Don't take my advice with great respect tho I'm not the most seasoned player lol

Woke up and read ~15 pages. Musk is not scummy at all to me- just a shitposter, that happens. loki has worded his posts in a way so confusing that he sounds both innocent and guilty at the same time. Tbh I agree with player on pretty much everything lol