M-FM III Gamethread

[CmG]

I highly suggest not getting Zack and Dust on the Quorum one is enough. Borkbot doesn't wanted to be elected on the podest so unvote him.

Zack n Dust look like on the same Team to me thats ok. Problem is if that team is mafia...

[Dust]

I highly suggest not getting Zack and Dust on the Quorum one is enough. Borkbot doesn't wanted to be elected on the podest so unvote him.

Zack n Dust look like on the same Team to me thats ok. Problem is if that team is mafia...

Who do you suggest to become a quorum member alongside Zack or me?

[Escaho]

Who do you suggest to become a quorum member alongside Zack or me?

I would suggest BorkBot or jaczac. I would not mind putting Zack or you, but both of you on there (and how hard both of you are campaigning for this, really worries me.

[CmG]

I would suggest BorkBot or jaczac. I would not mind putting Zack or you, but both of you on there (and how hard both of you are campaigning for this, really worries me.

electing borkbot makes no sense too. HE DOESN'T EVEN WANT THIS ROLE. Because if you check him up at night you see he is mafia or some other role who is destined to die sooner or later.

[Escaho]

I am concerned about the sudden shift of votes. Jaczac claimed Citizen, which is a role that cannot be directly influenced (even if he is sleeper, he would still side with town). Meanwhile, to my knowledge, neither Dust nor Zack have claimed anything at all, simply gaining votes off of previous games (which, IMO, means try should not be given MORE power if they are such great analyzers).

Someone also stated (Kromos? Sorry, on my phone at the food court) that while Dust would be a great Quorum candidate if he is town, he would be a force to be reckoned with if Mutineer/Cylon. Therefore, I believe votes should be split between two candidates who are not openly supporting each other for fear of collusion.

[CmG]

someone who isn't easy to manipulate. I see the Quorum more then a threat then anything because chances are higher for the scum getting elected. 4 of them already know who their allies are. 2 don't care much about it and the other 2 neutrals who knows? The traitor just plays his own game same with the 2 code spammer.

Like most people suggested 2 PR would be the most beneficial for Town. But the less risky variant is 1 PR and 1 random/citizen who is resistent to manipulation and thinks for himself.

2 revealed T PR means 1 Quorum member less next Day.

I don't trust you both without a role claim. Especially if you 2 are really mafia you would have the extra votes could buddy buddy in broad daylight and nobody would realize it. LOL NO WAY!

[Dust]

CmG, could you list people who YOU think are hard to manipulate. If Zack or I put either of our lists down you might think that Zack or I might be trying to manipulate them by saying they're hard to manipulate. (Flattery).

I think that someone else who ISN'T running should put a list together.

[BorkBot]

Now that those presents have been secreted away in my hidden stash,
I have returned to kick some mutineer ass and chew battlegum.
And I'm all out of battlegum.

I would've kicked the Cylons in that statement as well, but I left them out because it would ruin the pom.

Anyway, here we go:

Why you wanted to be a member of the Quorun in the first place.
I didn't. But upon further consideration I'd like to give it a wing, since I seem to be getting some votes of confidence and I know that I could be of service if I were to be placed in the high seat.

Why you are the best candidate for the job.
I don't know if I'm the best candidate for the job. Only time will tell if I can succeed, and then only if I am given the chance to prove it. The only promise I can make is that I have the best interests of the crew at heart and I will do all in my power to ensure that the good and loyal men and women of Battlestar Galactica may once again live at ease and that the corrupted forces that threaten life as we know it are unmasked and removed from this vessel.

What skills do you have that the other candidates don't (how good you are at FM not role abilities).
I take my duties quite seriously and do my best to read the lines as well as whatever might be between them. I have the time and dedication required to give a good amount of input into the discussion. I don't lurk and I allow people to read me as well. My early reads in the last MFM were inaccurate, but they helped some important people to stay safe for a while, so it worked out. I'm confident though that I have learned from past experiences and that I'll be better able to figure out who the bad guys are, if I'm given the time detect slip-ups.

What you plan to do once elected (you don't need to give us loads of details, just an outline of how you will scum hunt and use your votes for the good of the town).
I will cooperate with my fellow Quorum member and discuss the day's events, but carefully so until I'm quite sure of their allegiance. I will not keep the rest of the people on this ship in the dark, you all know I'm an active day chat participant. Even so, I will post a bit less because a possible betrayal could prove to be disastrous. I also want to speak with a wide vocabulary so people won't have to suspect me - as borked a bot as I may be - of being a Cylon. I'm not going to tell you how I will scum-hunt, because that ruins the chance of success of my method.

Anything else that might convince us to vote for you.
If you vote me for president, I will refrain from posting the Star Wars Holiday Special on Day 2 (and believe me, you will be so braindead after watching that giant space turd from start to finish that all of your scum hunting skills will be warped beyond hyperspace).

[jaczac]

Bork, i think you'd make a great pertner, only you havent claimed.

Dust (4) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane
jaczac (5) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (2) - BorkBot, Zane
Zack (6) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster,
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho

[CmG]

Now you look like your ally has a good chance of getting elected so you catch the momentum.

Whatever here a list Dust



Dust Either him or Zack
Kromos
wolfcheese
Sumikoko
Ubernox
Zane
Borkbot
RandomNumbers0
Goremancer
TheWaaagh
Deathfire123
divemaster127
Zack either him or Dust
1jaczac
Rocshi
Mopin
Escaho
CaptainUsopp
Sir William Wallace

This on a rather neutral analysis over the last shared games together. Newcommers are seen as wildcards thats why i am excluding you.

[CmG]

Well TheWaaagh is scum sry i forgot. He had a nice slipup with the traitor where he said he sees him as his ally. If the traitor kills a citizen he doesn't turn into one and searches for a new target.

[TheWaaagh]

Well TheWaaagh is scum sry i forgot. He had a nice slipup with the traitor where he said he sees him as his ally. If the traitor kills a citizen he doesn't turn into one and searches for a new target.

You really think that was my slip-up? You disappoint me CmG, I thought you held a higher opinion of me. Oh well.

[CmG]

You really think that was my slip-up? You disappoint me CmG, I thought you held a higher opinion of me. Oh well.

Soon it wont matter anymore anyway Waaaghi-kun lol.

Yeah jaczac you know its just like you sit on your computer and your brother comes in and sees something he shouldn't see. Or you are just easy to read for him because you are brothers. This stuff i don't claim that your brother has something to do with this. It's just some kind of extra risk ^^

[CmG]

I highly suggest you stop thinking in good and evil. I was 2 times scum this doesn't make me scum in this game too. Same with the goodie2shoes the other games. Please keep that in mind. Most people are just voting out of hunches.
I don't see Jaczac as a good quorum member no offense though. Same with the other Brother lovers ;)

[jaczac]

I highly suggest you stop thinking in good and evil. I was 2 times scum this doesn't make me scum in this game too. Same with the goodie2shoes the other games. Please keep that in mind. Most people are just voting out of hunches.
I don't see Jaczac as a good quorum member no offense though. Same with the other Brother lovers ;)

My brother has nothing to do with this.

[jaczac]

Call me crazy, but CmG is acting scummy in more ways than one.

1. His avatar is a cylon (or at least i suspect) in the show.
2. He speaks very much, allowing him to possibly repeat phrases which we've missed.
3. He is accusing everyone about something.

Just my hunch

[CmG]

It's day 1 who cares? It's not like the cylons will spam their codes like crazy. You are even more scummy Jaczac because you don't lurk like every other game so far and almost all of your posts have 0 information except the first one where you claimed citizen.

[TheWaaagh]

It's day 1 who cares? It's not like the cylons will spam their codes like crazy. You are even more scummy Jaczac because you don't lurk like every other game so far and almost all of your posts have 0 information except the first one where you claimed citizen.

Lol CmG, you've accused everyone so far of being some form of scum, is there anyone here you do trust?

[BorkBot]

Bork, i think you'd make a great pertner, only you havent claimed.

And I'm not going to. Claiming a role in a game where you can't really deliver proof until much later would be silly.

Not saying that your citizen claim was bad. It's actually quite good to know one citizen, but no more than one. Otherwise the kills of the evil clones might get out of hand.

As a side-note, anyone notice how the word cylons has almost exactly the same letters as the words clones and clowns? There's something inherently evil about that combination of letters.

[Sir William Wallace]

I'm not even going to pretend I know what is going on day 1. I was expecting to be looking for scum, not a mayor.
I'll vote for Zack and Dust.
Looks like I might have to spend more time at my computer than I thought to play this game.

Dust (5) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane, Sir William Wallace
jaczac (5) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (2) - BorkBot, Zane
Zack (7) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace,
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho

[Escaho]

To those voting, I implore you not to solely vote for Dust and Zack. They have been promoting each other for this vote and neither had claimed a role. At least with jaczac, we can assume Citizen. I am very wary of both entering the Quorum together. Perhaps Zack and jaczac would be a better duo.

[TheWaaagh]

To those voting, I implore you not to solely vote for Dust and Zack. They have been promoting each other for this vote and neither had claimed a role. At least with jaczac, we can assume Citizen. I am very wary of both entering the Quorum together. Perhaps Zack and jaczac would be a better duo.

I implore everyone to finish voting for whoever so that we can be done with Day 1 and get into the real game.

Dust (6) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane, Sir William Wallace, Ubernox
jaczac (5) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (2) - BorkBot, Zane
Zack (7) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace,
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho
Zane (1) - Ubernox

[Kromos]

I implore everyone to finish voting for whoever so that we can be done with Day 1 and get into the real game.
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I think night 1 will go on until after christmas so we might as well make the most out of today.

[Ubernox]

Sorry I couldn't pay much attention to this day, I'm a little busy atm.

Vote Dust

Vote Zane

[Zack]

heh, day 1 drama instead of day 1 trollfest. I guess it is better o.o

Anyway, guess i'l give my second vote to...

vote BorkBot

Though if Sumi convinces me I may change one of my votes :P

Dust (6) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane, Sir William Wallace, Ubernox
jaczac (5) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (2) - BorkBot, Zane
Zack (7) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace,
BorkBot (6) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho, Zack
Zane (1) - Ubernox

[TheWaaagh]

Actually, I'm interested in preserving the balance of power. So I'm going to retract my Zack vote and switch it to Jaczac to keep the tie going.

Unvote Zack
Vote Jaczac

Dust (6) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane, Sir William Wallace, Ubernox
jaczac (6) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho, TheWaaagh
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (2) - BorkBot, Zane
Zack (6) - Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace,
BorkBot (6) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho, Zack
Zane (1) - Ubernox

[Sumikoko]

Heh, very well Zack. xD I enjoyed your little interview there. It's unlikely for the votes to swing in my favor now but I thought I'd take a stab at it for Borkbot and Zane.

Citizens! I proclaim to you my honest, unadulterated answers, unlike other candidates who might have possibly fudged their answers to gain the most appeal.

Why you wanted to be a member of the Quorum in the first place.
As I've said, I'll be completely honest. The game's boring without a night chat lol. You saw what I did last game to rid myself of boredom. I nearly died trying to keep a secret, which, now I can tell my Quorum member if I find him/her trustworthy enough. Being Quorum member will inhibit me from unleashing WIFOM chaos lol.

Why you are the best candidate for the job.
I find honesty to be a key as a Quorum member. Putting two highly experience players on the spot is preferable on the outset. But the flip side is, they'll have the skills to be highly selective in what they tell you town members. I would be very wary about placing them together.

What skills do you have that the other candidates don't (how good you are at FM not role abilities).
Experience? Intuition? Bah. I say, etiquette! You will never see me curse and provoke people (unless you force me to be). I am always gentle little Sumi who say what I need to say in the politest manner possible and move on. I am not those who will spam and say the same thing or those who go around provoking the heck out of everyone and cause mass chaos. Conciseness and politeness. That's my motto.

What you plan to do once elected.
Pool together all resources and lead the town to victory, of course. I do not plan to hide any information, and hope as town, you'll put your trust in me as I will in you.

Anything else that might convince us to vote for you.
One trait that no one has. I'm female. Did I mention I have a homing chainsaw? No? Okay, well. And I have a homing chainsaw.

[Luna]

31 votes have been counted, the day may end prematurely if all 40 votes are cast.

You may decide to skip one or both of your votes if you so desire.

If the Day 1 ends early, then Night 1 may finish before the 25th December, and Day 2 may run through the holidays for people to post if they have a spare minute.

[BorkBot]

CmG has me in doubt. He's acting strangely scummy, but it reminds me of Dust in the previous game. It could be a good thing or a bad thing.

I do find it somewhat strange that he keeps saying this about me:

HE DOESN'T EVEN WANT THIS ROLE

Never did I say that. It's true that I had no plans to participate as a nominee, but I didn't oppose it either. Go ahead and investigate yours truly whenever you like. You can't possibly find anything incriminating. Except if I get framed or if you're a cop riddled with insanity of course

[Kromos]

I will be looking back through the posts in order to find repeated phrases. I suggest people do the same.

[CaptainUsopp]

Fine, then, if you need votes, then I'll choose my favorites.

-vote jaczac
-vote Dust

[Zack]

Hmm, now I feel compelled to vote for Sumi, heh

But the question is... Which of my two votes will I change? -thinking-

[BorkBot]

CaptainUsopp, in case you were under the impression that you were being ignored, not so.

It's simply more attractive for us to vote to elect players whose playstyles we have some knowledge of. It's too difficult to foresee what you may be trying to accomplish. And election votes are based on trust.

[TheWaaagh]

Not to mention that it'd be nice if you included vote tallies every time you voted CaptainUsopp.

[TheWaaagh]

Since I can't affect the votes for Dust, I'm going to pull out my vote for Jaczac and vote for Sumikoko. Maybe we can add another person into the tie mix.

Unvote Jaczac
Vote Sumikoko

Dust (7) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane, Sir William Wallace, Ubernox, Captain Usopp
jaczac (6) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho, Captain Usopp
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (2) - BorkBot, Zane
Zack (6) - Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace,
BorkBot (6) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho, Zack
Zane (1) - Ubernox

[Dust]

Since I can't affect the votes for Dust, I'm going to pull out my vote for Jaczac and vote for Sumikoko. Maybe we can add another person into the tie mix.

Do you want random.org to settle who gets the quorum? I'd much rather trust my reads on someone than let it up to chance. Plus I still have my one vote. If its a tie then I will vote for the person who I think is most pro town (unless its Zack, sorry, but I can't vote on you twice).

[TheWaaagh]

Do you want random.org to settle who gets the quorum?

Yes. Yes I do.

[TheWaaagh]

D'oh forgot to add my vote for Sumi.

Dust (7) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane, Sir William Wallace, Ubernox, Captain Usopp
jaczac (6) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho, Captain Usopp
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (3) - BorkBot, Zane, TheWaaagh
Zack (6) - Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace,
BorkBot (6) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho, Zack
Zane (1) - Ubernox

[CmG]

Ok lets analyse how the different interest groups vote.

Town
Doesn't know who to vote because they don't know who their allies are. They try to go for people who are painfully easy to read or Town carries from the last Mafia games. Or citizen claims.
They should try to get 1 Town PR elected at least.

Mafia
Has a night chat. They know from start who their allies are and which role they have. Since everybody has 2 Votes it's painfully easy for them to elect 1 of their members into the Quorum especially if they had some connection from the last M-FM. 1 Vote on one of their Mafia pals. The other on some easy to manipulate player. They gain one ally through this. Now look who is leading the votes so far and which what voting reasons.

Neutrals
Don't care much except the Cylon or the Jester for obvious reasons. Smallest group with interest they are neglectable.




So people who have to be checked are those people voting for jaczac, Dust, Borkbot and Zack.

If Dust flips mafia the voters on his train have to be checked.
If Borkbot flips mafia the voters on his train have to be checked.
If Zack flips mafia the voters on his train have to be checked.

There you go investigative roles. You have your targets for tonight. Have fun!

[BorkBot]

I would be changing one of my votes for a joint venture with Zack or Dust if I didn't know that both of them have proven themselves very capable at deceiving me.

Though if I had to choose, I would probably choose Zack. He posts less and therefore should have more trouble concealing himself if he's a clown. I mean Cylon.

PS. I won't flip mafia. And I won't flip mutineer either. Nor will I flip clown.

[CmG]

Dust what do you think about Borkbot, Zack and Jaczac?


Borkbot what do you think about Zack, Dust and Jaczac?


Zack what do you think about Dust, Jaczac and Borkbot?


Jaczac what do you think about hash cookies?

[Dust]

Dust what do you think about Borkbot, Zack and Jaczac?

I'll start with the first train, jaczac.
I don't doubt that he's a citizen. He is probably easily manipulated because of this fact.

Zack:
I think he's a town PR. Not easily manipulated even if he were a citizen. Good scum hunter.

BorkBot:
Good scum hunter. Not easily manipulated. Needs to post more but its alright because it IS two days before Christmas. Probably town.

[Kromos]

unvote Zack

I don't want day to end before I've finished analysing these posts, which may take a while

[CmG]

unvote Zack

I don't want day to end before I've finished analysing these posts, which may take a while

There is no sense in looking for phrases on day 1. wait for day 2 and reverse engineer after Day 2 has ended. You wont find anything today.
Those 2 will lay low or going full retard on day 1 and then go back to lurk mode.

[TheWaaagh]

There is no sense in looking for phrases on day 1. wait for day 2 and reverse engineer after Day 2 has ended. You wont find anything today.
Those 2 will lay low or going full retard on day 1 and then go back to lurk mode.

Unless he's a cylon and posts is his code word ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

You're welcome everybody.

[CmG]

vote dorkbot

[Escaho]

Dust (7) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane, Sir William Wallace, Ubernox, Captain Usopp
jaczac (6) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho, Captain Usopp
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (3) - BorkBot, Zane, TheWaaagh
Zack (5) - Dust, wolfcheese, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace,
BorkBot (7) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho, Zack, CmG
Zane (1) - Ubernox

Updated vote count, I believe.

[TheWaaagh]

If CmG's vote for BorkBot counts, then I'm going to unvote BorkBot and vote for Zack again.

Unvote BorkBot
Vote Zack

Dust (7) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane, Sir William Wallace, Ubernox, Captain Usopp
jaczac (6) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho, Captain Usopp
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (3) - BorkBot, Zane, TheWaaagh
Zack (6) - Dust, wolfcheese, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace, TheWaaagh
BorkBot (6) - Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho, Zack, CmG
Zane (1) - Ubernox

[Zack]

Dust (6) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zane, Sir William Wallace, Ubernox, Captain Usopp
jaczac (6) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho, Captain Usopp
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (4) - BorkBot, Zane, TheWaaagh, Zack
Zack (6) - Dust, wolfcheese, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace, TheWaaagh
BorkBot (6) - Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho, Zack, CmG
Zane (1) - Ubernox

[Goremancer]

From the list we are voting, who has given a speech? feels like a lot of ppl are lurking