Tbh this post makes you look really bad Trine. It makes you look like a Fan who knows that Fury is not Gaga and you want to gain towncred for not jumping on a mislynch. If you were sincere about wanting to avoid a potential mislynch, you'd put up some other reasonable targets and like REALLY push them instead of just sitting in the background being like "oh well I disagree with this but will not try to lead my own countertrain to avoid what in the mind of Trine is a certain mislynch"
You (Trine) or The Lawyer was the best Fan target N1.
I am Hela, Odin's firstborn, commander of the legions of Asgard, the rightful heir to the throne and the Goddess of Death.
Certainly that is true.
But let me put it this way. I don't know, I pushed suntax earlier, I've written up a large post about the lawyer, I offered credible evidnece against both ccantman and 22. EVERYTHING I SAY IS SHOT DOWN.
So what do you want me to do? Everyone is pretty much afk when I've been getting off work. I can only push, and then people push back when I'm gone.
Sure, it could seem like I'm sitting back. But if I was actually sitting back, would I get into it with ccantman and go to the lengths that I have? Would i post extended read lists and offer 2 valid targets? Would I literally go and read all of the lawyers wall post and dissect it? Seriously whad?
You're the one driving the conversation. If you want fury out of the way, then get him out of the way. I'm playing to my win con and that's to lynch scum, I don't believe fury is scum, y'all are all fucking tunneling him to death.
So if that makes me seem like I'm suddenly not as towny as you thought I was 25 minutes ago.
It also fucking triggers me that ccantman was basically buddying the fuck out of 22 today, and was inconsistent as hell, and yet everyone is like "idk why trine is pushing him" "hes sooo consistent"
It's like we're playing 2 completely different games here.
Listen here in Russian,ex forces and fought in the Afghan war and the first Chechen war I drink vodka and lived in England for 13 years wanna stop me try it.
Btw, scum probably wants me dead because they know when MYLO or LYLO time comes, I'm going to ream their assholes.
I accept my fate if town decides to penetrate me and thus themselves simultaneously.
I also won't be employing this strategy if I play another cult game. lol.
Btw, whad or trine is converted tomorrow. Hopefully me saying this will throw off a conversion on one of them. I will say Sinon, Suntax, Lawyer are your list of possible scum. Ignore everyone else.
I'll go figure out which one of those 3 are gaga now. @Whad , suntax, sinon, lawyer. 2 of them are scum.
didn't mean to include you in that list if it looks like it, whad.
Suntax > sinon > lawyer for list of most likely to least likely scum. Now hammer me and lynch suntax so I don't get converted and lose.
@Whad , @The Lawyer , @Trine , @ccantman , @TwentyTwo
if suntax is town, then lynch me tomorrow. My 2 scum reads (sinon and suntax) have been pushing my lynch ever since I outed them. Don't fall in line with scum.
I am Hela, Odin's firstborn, commander of the legions of Asgard, the rightful heir to the throne and the Goddess of Death.
Well another part of why I don't think Sinon/Suntax is the Gaga/Fan team is because neither Sinon nor Suntax makes sense as a N1 Fan pick over TheLawyer or Trine. And tbh both The Lawyer and Trine have done things today that make me suspicious of them as a fan which only reinforces my belief that the Fan is not among Sinon/Suntax.
I am Hela, Odin's firstborn, commander of the legions of Asgard, the rightful heir to the throne and the Goddess of Death.
Listen here in Russian,ex forces and fought in the Afghan war and the first Chechen war I drink vodka and lived in England for 13 years wanna stop me try it.
Whad is 100% town, which is why I've called him trash and not scum. If I had to pick the most likely between suntax and sinon, then I'd have to think and go back.
If fury flips hater then I'm number 1 suspect. But If it is a hater flip vote 22
Listen here in Russian,ex forces and fought in the Afghan war and the first Chechen war I drink vodka and lived in England for 13 years wanna stop me try it.
@Whad
Maybe Sinon isn't a fan and is just terrible. I need to think more.
Actually, I think Sinon is town
Somebody answer my question
is suceeding to a lynch, a mislybch agsinst the town gamethrowing
If I said everybody lynch me, then i flip hater to make a point that I was a hater all along as a form of tribute lynch, is that gamethrowing?
Listen here in Russian,ex forces and fought in the Afghan war and the first Chechen war I drink vodka and lived in England for 13 years wanna stop me try it.
LEGIT QUESTION NEEDS ANSWERING
@Alright
Listen here in Russian,ex forces and fought in the Afghan war and the first Chechen war I drink vodka and lived in England for 13 years wanna stop me try it.
Sinon, I don't read games I'm not part of. I don't know what you're referring to.
@Whad would I seem more towny if i just voted with you. I mean, I don't want idiot one and 2 to come back and call me out for "being inconsistent" But then when I'm consistently against a bad fucking lynch train, people call me out for being potential scum.
So is it bad to be consistent or inconsistent or both?
I am Hela, Odin's firstborn, commander of the legions of Asgard, the rightful heir to the throne and the Goddess of Death.
Inconsistency is a scum tell in my book. And I'm pretty sure ccantman has been pretty inconsistent. Like I said earlier, him and 22 were so sure they had "gotten me" and then I posted back at them AND INSTANTLY they both unvoted.
This made me associate them together, however, ccantman could be a fan trying to get us to ML 22. I don't know. I'm just looking.
As I've said repeatedly, this is day 1 all over again, we need a fan flip to have any luck of analysis.
Could we maybe not vote me
that would be a mislybch
then you only have one left
likely meaning day 3 would be a no lynch
with day 4 being MYLO (maybe LYLO i can't remember)
Listen here in Russian,ex forces and fought in the Afghan war and the first Chechen war I drink vodka and lived in England for 13 years wanna stop me try it.
Lawyer had suspicion on suntax day 1 for excessive fluff/shitposting, but no red flags went off day 2 when he went into hyperdrive? Questionable.
If you break my heart, I'll get you back in spades!
If I'm being honest i have not read a single thing in the last 2 hours.
I have been up all night from waking up at 7am its now 7am again I have been up and down on caffeine and in and out of sleep.
I don't know who we are pointing eyes towards, from what I can tell fury is stopping his scummy posts and your all open to lynching me
As I stated i would rather not get lynched and land a mislynch in town.
I will shift my vote of fury to a-unvote
unless a non me train starts, i have things to do.
like shopping
Listen here in Russian,ex forces and fought in the Afghan war and the first Chechen war I drink vodka and lived in England for 13 years wanna stop me try it.
The first claim at knowing who gaga was that Fury made on D1 was his post*#13
That seemed a bit too early for such a claim especially since by that point in time only Suntax, ccantman and 22 have posted besides Fury. However it isn't entirely impossible to legitimately scumread someone based on 1 or 2 posts.
You took him literal. Don't take him literal. Fury has a god complex. He's very good town acting scum. Considering he was SK and had everyone, and I mean everyone fooled into thinking he was vigi. So this isn't really in the fury scum handbook. -ptb
What I found interesting about that claim was if it was a real claim and if he was right about knowing who lady gaga was then it narrows it down to Suntax, ccantman and 22.*Again, he wasn't being literal, and if he was I doubt it was any of them and i doubt it was/is him.
However I couldn't just rely on someone else's early scum read so I preferred to do my own work. I voted Suntax first for the slightly scummy intro post but didn't have an actual scum read on him so I removed the vote and since I found Fury's D1 content very interesting especially his claims on knowing who lady gaga was, I decided to interrogate him. As far as I can remember he didn't answer most of my questions and said that didn't want to give out his reads because they could be used against him if he was converted. A lot of his D1 content was revolving about the possibility of him being converted which makes sense if he expected to be converted because he knew who lady gaga was and had been threatening to reveal it. He also generated a lot of wifomy content on D1 and there was a substantial and even slightly exaggerated amount of shitposting which would allow him to render his D1 content useless in case he is converted on N1. Written by lawyer
THIS SECTION WRITTEN BY PTB
*If he has prior knowledge of who gaga is then he is A. Cheating. B. Cheating AND game throwing. C. Lady gaga. But that doesn't make sense to make that play if he's acting like he'll get converted. I'd definitely convert him over anyone else now after the FUCKING SK reveal. If I was gaga he'd be a fucking pro ass choice. Ib4 someone claims I'm hinting to gaga to convert him. Scum has day chat, this wouldn't make sense for me to do this if I was scum. Just saying. Look at you ccantman and 22.-PTB
VVVV- LAWYER
Upon interrogating him I wasn't able to find out much because of the wifomy answers that I got, but ultimately I got to the conclusion that he was wifoming so much*because he was town and expecting to be converted on N1. Throughout D1 he kept confirming his claim at knowing who lady gaga was which made me believe that his early claim could have been a legit scumread especially since I was getting nowhere with my own D1 investigation. I had a town read on Unknown, Trine and Suntax which I posted on D1.*After I concluded that Fury was most likely town expecting to get converted on N1, I removed the vote on him and voted PoD for being completely afk the whole day. In the meanwhile The Burning Phoenix appearead just to say hi and placed a random vote on someone (at the time there were 3 votes on PoD and 0 on TPB I believe). By doing this TBP made himself the best D1 mislynch for town and #2 best lynch for town after lady gaga because he was a better lynch then all the active users since he appeared on D1 only once shortly and hasn't contributed at all, and*he became a better lynch than PoD because no information at all could have been gained from poD's lynch if he flipped town because he was completely afk the whole D1.* @ccantman read this line. This is me teaching you.*<ccantman line written by ptb TEAL IS BY PTB
However I believed that TBP was probably town because he appeared when PoD had 3 votes on him do if TBP was the power scum of this game he would have used this in his favor and probably remained completely afk, in which case PoD would have almost certainly been lynched. I left my vote on PoD and waited for them to appear but they didn't.*
I think everyone assumed yesterday was going to be a ML – ptb
VVVV LAWYER
I decided to go back to Fury's D1 content because I didn't have my own scum read on anyone and decided to investigate the possibility that his earliest claim in post #13 was correct and that lady gaga was either Suntax, ccantman or 22.*I immediately dismissed Suntax as scum because for me he was a town read. I considered ccantman but I had a town lean on him due to his D1 analysis.*Then only 22 was left and first I dismissed him as lady gaga because his D1 posts looked like pikachu wrote them and this kind of makes you not want to vote him because no one wants to lynch pikachu. But still I had to get back to this possibility and analyze all of his D1 content upon which it became clear to me that even though he didn't say anything particularly scummy the overall impression of him was scummy because he looked just good enough to not be lynched D1 but he didn't do anything useful on D1.*So at this point I concluded that he had to be the power scum of this game and then I noticed that my own scum read on him was overlapping with Fury's early claim at either Suntax, ccantman or 22 being lady gaga.*So I decided to vote him but didn't expect that he would be lynched D1 even if I pushed him and if Fury was right with his claim on him and if I pushed him at the end of D2 I would most likely fail to lynch him since I didn't have enough time to elaborate my read on him, Fury wasn't pushing him either and neither was anyone else. So if I pushed him most likely he wouldn't have been lynched and then he would convert either me or Fury. Fury even said on D1 that he was down for a mislynch which indicates that he knew he would mislynch on D1 and therefore knew that TBP was town. He was the one who pushed the TBP lynch knowing that he would mislynch but this was the best mislynch for town and I take it he*thought that if he couldn't lynch lady gaga on D1, then the best mislynch of all possible lynches gives a good chance to town later on.
THIS SECTION WRITTEN BY PTB: PINK CORROSPONDS TO HIGHTLIGHT PINK ABOVE. YELLOW ALSO CORRESPONDS TO YELLOW ABOVE.
And what's your opinion on 22 now? For someone you weren't so sure was scum, that was an awfully large claim to say you're intention is to continue to vote him every day because "he is the gaga." -ptb
So are you saying Fury is gaga or the fan? Because for him to push the lynch yesterday he would be game throwing or cheating if he was a hater yesterday, because gaga starts alone. Is that what you're saying, or is this a reason to consider fury as gaga as well, and try to cypher out between him and 22. Because you stated in the uncolored part between that 22 has to be the scum. However, you're pushing fury harder today than your gaga target. –PTB
This section written by lawyer
When he said that TBP was his top scum read I asked him if he ever played with TBP, because I wondered how he could have a top scumread on someone who was almost completely afk to which he responded that he played with TBP only once and that in that game TBP was just as afk and useless as in this one, and then he even openly said that he wasn't meta reading TBP. This confirmed my assumption that he knew that power scum was someone other than TBP.
*Once again, he would have no way of knowing this without cheating.*–WRITTEN BY PTB
At one point in our D1 conversation (forgive me but you will have to find this conversation yourself for I can't do everything for you) Fury stated that he had reads on everyone. The only way he could have had reads on everyone even though 2 players were afk was if he had a very strong scum read on someone. So basically his D1 content makes perfect sense if he knew that 22 was lady gaga and thought that he wouldn't be able to lynch him D1 so he decided to post all those claims so that he can claim all of this on D2 if he isn't converted and combined with D1 collective town reads this would at least narrow down the list of potential power scum giving town a fairly good chance to lynch 22.
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I'm sorry but this is such a stretch and doesn't make logical sense. He would have no way of knowing, and he'd have no way of counting on being converted n1. Unless of course, he's cheating. -PTB
This way he basically forced lady gaga aka pikachu.22 to convert him. I assumed that Fury would be converted and he himself assumed that he would be converted as you can see from his D1 content. Since I assumed that he would be converted by 22, I left my final D1 vote on 22 to claim it on D2 which I did claim at the start of D2 if anyone feels like bothering to read that claim but I have the impression that most of the players have missed it or don't feel like bothering to read it. So on D1 as I assumed that 22 would convert Fury I decided to claim Fury's D1 town content and claims at lady gaga for him on D2 which I did just now.
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So we should lynch 22 today, is that what you're saying? Because it seems like your case is against fury, who in your scenario was a hater yesterday,
who magically knew who the lady gaga was, and this vast conspiracy was formed and 22 was able to pick up the clues to get fury and convert him.
Don't you see how bad that seems? The only way for fury to know this information is to have cheated. -PTB
Since Fury said on D1 and Suntax noticed this too, that Fury left content on D1 that he could claim if he was town on D2 but he also had to give himself a fair chance to win if he is converted because he wanted to win regardless of alignment and therefore had also created wifom on D1 and posted shit to give himself a fair chance on D2 if he is scum on D2. I am surprised that none of you have noticed that Fury is spreading infinite wifom as of D2 instead of claiming his D1 town content. He is able to create and did create such levels of wifom on D2 that no one even knows what was happening on D1 anymore.
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Once again, his play was to make it so that if he was converted he wouldn't be traced back to anyone. However, if he's not converted he's making it hard for scum to want to convert him because they need to get other mslynches to maximize their conversions. Lynching a fan doesn't HURT the scum team, however, it does stem the bleed off to 1 for that particular day/night seq. -PTB
Now all of you who are still town*need to ignore Fury's D2 content and go back to his D1 content not only because his D1 content reveals everything but also because his powers of wifom are such that if you keep reading his D2 posts you will be stuck on his D2 wifom not just until the end of this game but probably for the rest of your life. I assumed that this would happen if he gets converted so I posted on D2 and made the first post stating that Fury was a zombie so that your subconscious can at least get a chance to get out of his wifom that would undoubtedly happen on D2 if I was right with my theory.
WRITTEN BY PTB. LARGER TEXT WAS BY LAWYER
Did you just scum slip by not adding yourself to the town?*-PTB
Now all of you town players*need to do your own damn work but then again you don't really need to since I basically solved the game for you or to be fair Fury solved the game for you and I presented the solution to you. Since I am hereby done with my official mission, the rest of the content that I will post on D2 and later if I post at all, will be trolling, shitposting, and possibly flirting and wifoming about my gender.
@Whad now you have no excuse.
it was originally pink and yellow. It didnt transfer over from word and I didnt feel like going back.
But that's what you fucking took out of it?
You're being such a pain in my balls today.
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I read only the teal portions, but PTB hit the nail on the head ^_^
Your breakdown seems to support the idea that Lawyer is fan, does it not?
Suntax was pushing the "lynch me" card as hard as I was. If my play was WIFOM to not be converted, then his play must be WIFOM as well. However, he rejects my ideology to WIFOM away from being converted. So, why is he WIFOM'ing?
Well if I missed that, then I may be too tired to analyze this. It is true I did over 12 hours of mental work today. Anyways, I should likely sleep. I think we may end up no lynching, but I hope we don't.
Sinon’s interactions
Fury: 10
Trine: 5
Whad: 15
Ccantman: 1
TwentyTwo: 1
Suntax: 3
Unknown: 0
The Lawyer: 0
TBP: 0
I think Sinon is Gaga and is avoiding interacting with the Lawyer who he fanned.
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I am Hela, Odin's firstborn, commander of the legions of Asgard, the rightful heir to the throne and the Goddess of Death.
@Whad you didnt vote forreal
Glad to see you went through and literally tallied every contact I've had () but can't answer simple questions asked of you. Your logic has been sparse and your rationale has been meandering from player to player. It's Fury! In Suntan! It's Trie! Vote Sinon now that I'm being pressed by them! Tbh you seem off your game tonight and being way too 'throw everything at the wall and see what sticks,' maybe even desperate. You can't even vote correctly. Maybe get some sleep - I hope it's just that you're tired or something. I'd hate to see my count of cherished players diminish by one.
If you break my heart, I'll get you back in spades!