Oh and @The Burning Phoenix I see you lurking, now please respond to my post. If you have read the day's posts and still want to lynch me, then I need to know why.
You seem to be awfully certain Fury is Joker, even if it's only at an implicit level. Like you have totally discounted any possibilty of him being mafia as well.
If you are maf, taking the stance that we should keep the joker alive for now guarantees that a)you can lead us astray by lynching a townie and b) the joker has a high chance of taking out more town. The latter part also presents a risk to yourself should the joker target you, but mafia might be willing to risk it in order to thin out town power roles.
I for one agree with SJ that non-town is non-town, and we should take them out wherever they present themselves. I am pretty certain Fury or Mesk is Joker. But I think you are a strong possibilty for maf now.
I see a longer post with too many words gets ignored, so I'll provide my logic one step at a time. Dougler, respond quickly please.
@thedougler
i've discounted fury, gyr, and pheonix from being mafia in my eyes
FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
FM XXI: USA (Escort)
FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)
I think there is a strong chance of him being detective, given that a couple of us were ready to rally a lynch and no counterclaims were forthcoming. That could be a case of teh right people being AFK at the wrong time, but it is a point in his favor.
If you didn't fill in for someone else, I wouldn't give a fuck and I'd want you lynched. But, you're still new to the setup and you missed the first day, so all is forgiven. At least you provide reasoning. Frankly, TBP is lurking at not responding to anything I'm saying. If TBP is town, then he's worse than worthless. He's actually helpful for scum.
Yes, but he is far and away the least participatory player and please go back and reread his push on me. He's not mafia either, but I really am coming to dislike his play.
Okay the relevant quote:
Not quite as scathing as I thought. And SJ suggested it first, not TBP.
And then he called out three people as maf, 1 of whom is dead and confirmed not mafia (Ika), along with SJ for whom I see a 0% chance of being mafia.
Makes his earlier point about wanting jester to kill alijach seem kind of empty if he really suspected those three all along. Was he bussing Alijach when it was looking like he would be lynched either way? Was he hoping ccantman would pick another target? Who knows. The fact he suspected 2 people who are now solidly town reads isn't sketchy in itself, but him not including alijach in his possible block is.
Gyrlander has been all over the place for me. He seems pretty detached from the game, which makes sense from a mafia point of view because 2 mafia died at the start of the game. Also, this quote struck me as odd:
Idk, I suppose after thinking it through a little more I'd lean scum on Gyrlander, but I'm not happy with my read.
Ok now I remember. @The Burning Phoenix seems to be exceptionally skilled at throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. He's either scum or a town who randoms and prays to be right. Considering he called out ika, SJ, and unknown for being mafia when at least 2/3 of those are wrong already.
If agents can visit themselves I don't see how Mesk is confirmed at all. I'm just saying that is exactly what I would do as mafia so I could fake cit and avoid the joker. Also saves you from having to give leads on anyone.
But I can see how this leads to an endless cycle of WIFOMing and I will drop this for now.
FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
FM XXI: USA (Escort)
FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)
@The Burning Phoenix I think looking at who lynched the jester is silly because it was agreed to very early on that we'd lynch jester. No matter what happened, the jester would be lynched. Voting early just cuts down on valuable discussion time. So that reasoning literally gives me a headache. Lynching early is the most anti-town thing you can do, but you say I'm not town because I didn't lynch early? You literally are saying "you're not doing something anti-town; thereofore, you're anti-town."
You refuse to acknowledge this.
And Unknown, finally you are starting to see why I scum read Mesk day 1 =)
TBH, if Mesk was Mafia I could easily see her visiting no one to look like a citizen. I don't want to jump to conclusions but she was definitely not with the majority of the towns opinion. Her excuse is "I was waiting for Ika to tell me who to vote"