Looks like most viable RN are Ika/FB
I'm uneasy about both/could go either
Looks like most viable RN are Ika/FB
I'm uneasy about both/could go either
Yes, seriously.
You've tunneled on FB yesterday and today but your vote yesterday contradicts that.
The tunnel could be legit or convenient. Ika is bothering me and I feel like you haven't focused enough they're even though he pushes the same sort of convert hunt agenda you pushed FB for today.
My vote only matters by itself if I want to rng between FB and gyr, which I don't.
FB over Gyr
Ika/FB as preference
FB is fine
Will go Ika if others will switch
and fuudifigpjpjpjpjphg time!
Ftr FB as a lynch is fine, not FB doesn't look scummy
Lmao there isn't going to be a Lynch... I wouldn't recommend It.
Thank you Anonymous Donor
GG WP
Thank you Anonymous Donor
Let's dooooooo this party peeeeople!!
Get pumped! We're still the majority and can still pull this off, we just need focus and interaction, let's go, let's go, let's go!
I'm here for maybe half an hour and then need bed.
Almost a whole day off tomorrow though \o/
@Gyrlander
If you're still here, what are your thoughts? Who's Town? Who's Scum?
Can you answer yesterday's questions pls?
My brain right now on reread:
Who's more scummy????
@Stealthbomber16 - can you elaborate on the bold underlined? Is there a meta reason for this, or just your general theory?
Torn between tinfoil on both sides here.
Ftr first read through I thought this could be potential fearmongering on Stealth's part/discouraging confidence in yzb, but this reduces if it's backed with reasoning/meta.
I can declare that I have NO idea. I would just random lynch at this point. Plus anyone could be converted so my reads of yesterday aren't valid.
Ewwww cultist games.
Thank you Anonymous Donor
Ok, I've posted most of my issues with Gyr. FTR I still think he has scum equity but he's also possibly easy mislynch/low hanging fruit and there are inconsistencies here I want to clear up.
@Stealthbomber16 - What are you classing as 'flip flop' with Gyr? And does his progression on Mesk not fit the description of dedicated train?
@yzb25 - Gyr being stubborn about his Mesk reads is one of my issues. Voted possi-opportunistically after you (who he'd been previously voting for OMGUS/your PL push on him) D1 with no reasons, and followed it up with repeat vote D2 out the gate.
@Gyr - Can you explain your progression on Mesk each day?
Random lynch?
This is either scummy excuse/avoidance or Town prematurely giving up.
The Town game I read of yours didn't have declarations like this, and it did have you giving opinions on others.
Are you caught up with the whole game here?
Can you link me to a second Town game and a Scum game of yours pls?
@ika
AFAICT, these reads haven't developed since D1 - What are your thoughts on other players?
@ika , ^
Happy End of Holidays!
This was @Quick . Can you answer the bold underlined?
FTR, my issues with you aren't related to low volume so much that the content in your low volume doesn't give me anything with which to read you Town.
Agreed with SB on these, waiting for Stealth's elaboration on Gyr read compared to meta.
I have not played enough games with yzb for a good meta read. My point is based solely off of his play so far in this game.
Fuck, he's a cultist now.
I think that Gyr lacked a good train for a day and then began progressing mesk for reasons I stated the day before. In my experience, Gyr had his scumread day 1 and was tunneling her hardcore.
I think ika is town and mesk is null leaning town.
I explained it in the post but I will elaborate.
Every time I thought about FB over the night I was very cautious. When doing an ISO on his post, that post, which I previously denoted as scummy, I noticed had a 3 minute gap between it and the next one. I feel like 3 minutes is a fitting amount of time to go from this thread to the setup thread and do a quick readthrough to see what PR roles are in the setup.
Not knowing the setup before the game is scummy in its own right, but thats a topic for postgame.
My 3 year old cousins are in town this week so I may not be as active as I was day 1 or day 2. If I miss some of your questions, I'm sorry, but please do what Cass did and send them to me with a mention and I will answer them.
@Stealthbomber16
Can you explain your progression on Quick, with examples? Looking at your ISO, after liking some of his earlier responses, you give no reason other than maybe it's his avatar (D1)/can't think of anything noteworthy he's done all game (D2)? I didn't initially get his emphasis on 3p but am less bothered by that now and D1 the only other thing really standing out is the push on the SP Matt-is-stealthbomber post, which is likely TWTBAW/didn't have scummy tone?
1. Ok Ok for meta, but <.< for suggesting that not being passive would be a bad thing
2. Isn't that just what he's done here? (Tunneled Mesk)?
3. You actually already answered the Ika Town/Mesk Null too. Sorry I should've just snipped to what I was still waiting on answers for, which was WHY didn't you like that post, if you read it as natural. Ok for the natural actually being related to the next post.
4. And I'll totally talk to you about setup ignorance postgame
1. Whyyyyyy would you bring this up now, instead of pressuring him for more reads???
2. If FB claiming PR is 'the truest definition of NAI' why did you find it scummy?
And just out of sheer curiousity/for future reference/can discuss post game - is there a pattern to when he claims?
I don't have a lot of experience playing with Ika, but my general assumption is that he is typically more abrasive as Scum than as Town. I've played in one game where it was a tell for me when he was 3p and another where he was Town where he was just totally content to lurk and give minimal content. I look for when people's emotions run high when reading people. I know another guy off site who flips out when he is Town so its different for different people, but basically, emotions are really hard to fake and are usually outside the scope of how people approach the game when they are Scum or Town so if you can read the emotion, you can read the player. Here, I still haven't seen much from Ika that tells me he is Town.
@Quick - can you explain what you mean by the bold, and why you were Town reading Gyr before this?
Actually, I'm not ruling it out based on the same post.
Why is Ika Town and more importantly, Why the actual fuck is Mesk Town when she hasn't even post yet at this point in the day?I think ika is town and mesk is null leaning town.
Complete BS. Either you don't have the experience to know what you are talking about or you are Scum.Not knowing the setup before the game is scummy in its own right, but thats a topic for postgame.
So by this logic, the ALL CAPS rage of Ika's D1 would be truly emotional and hard to fake, or closer to his 3P play?
(Anyone?) It still strikes me as potentially OTT/fake/scummy but with people contradicting that with meta it's a o.O
Mehh. Point still stands that there are understandable reasons for sussing me if you don't have perfect info/do have a suspicious mind. It happens every game so you not questioning whether I'm sincere or not feels off.
How much experience do you have/how many games have you played?
Are you usually more adept at finding Town or Scum?
@Gyrlander ^ Q's
@Stealthbomber16
These too pls (if possible can you quote the original questions in reply?)
Yeah, really don't know why people aren't listening to me on Ika read, I feel like I have proven myself on this site at this point. Last game I played here I was nominated twice for awards for that single game. That shows I at least don't suck at this game and people should be at least hearing me out.
There are almost always reasons for Susing people, its cutting through the BS and getting to the stuff that actually tells if someone is Scum or Town. I have almost at minimum 3 times the experience that you have if you have played 20 games. I have 56(?) games completed. In my siggy you can see my wiki with almost all my experience with win rates and stuff.Mehh. Point still stands that there are understandable reasons for sussing me if you don't have perfect info/do have a suspicious mind. It happens every game so you not questioning whether I'm sincere or not feels off.
How much experience do you have/how many games have you played?
Are you usually more adept at finding Town or Scum?
My wiki isn't in my sig, that's from another site.
Here's my wiki: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php...icketyQuickety
Bite me on the being tired :P
I'm staying up too late again tonight, but ftr I reread and ok for the reasoning behind Mesk read, my problem was with calling it TMI.
I took FB's ALL CAPS EoD1 as more pushing through a lynch, which could've gone either way, and would've been pretty OTT for CL.
And the point about self pres was that it would've been more scummy if it had been for self pres reasons, and that saying it was scummy otherwise is/was possi-reachy imo.
Do you have reads/Where are you at today?
Can't tell if this is legit relevant or fluff, but will give you that you have more experience. Didn't see anything in skim of Wiki that says you prefer/are better at hunting for Town, but did see that you go on instinct, which this fits.
Gonna put your calling me Town at NAI for now and watch with popcorn.
What are your current reads?
Quoting this for reference.
Sorry for rushing, need to get to bed.
@yzb25 My point wasn't contribution levels so much as no identifiable Town motive for what's been posted here. WHAT made/makes you so sure Gyr is Town?
Until every one checks in, hard to say. I will say that I feel good about a Scum lynch today. Reason for this is that we have the best shot at hitting Scum based on the numbers ie. 3v4. That said it is LyLo and if a single Town votes for Town then Scum can dive bomb and triple vote to end the game, so we have to be careful.
Why are you Scum reading me all the sudden? You say you are Null reading me but it seems like you are leaning Scum. What is different from my game across all three days (if you think there is a difference). Otherwise, why do you think I could be CL?
The reads I have are kinda jumbled atm. I am trying to Scum hunt to get a better idea on people. Really its up in the air since I see some pretty bad things on everyone who has posted in this game day. I still like Ika as Scum and that prolly isn't going away. It makes compromise lynch's hard to deal with since people were Town readin Ika for IDK what reason, they all seem like garbage reason to me. If Ika is CL, then he could literally have recruited anyone. IDK how Ika plays Scum and who he would chose, but I think he might go the unconventional route.
So top priority is see how people are reading Ika and get to the bottom of why. I will try and be more active this game day since its LyLo.