S-FM 221: Death Note

[SilverWolf]

Go on

Because you don't think town would WIFOM citizen here but I don't see how it's scum indicative.

[MattZed]

You have now justified my point

You have entirely missed my point for the sake of defending your own ego.

[Cryptonic]

is matt claiming sheriff?
I have legit read nothing before i posted that i was scum.

That's scummy that you're trying to out the Sheriff hmmhmhmhmmhmhmmm

[Firebringer]

Well, im scum with silverwolf here cus im kira who recuited her n0.

Also, im citizen

kira can't be a citizen....

i would think u would recruit her.

so if your really scum, want me to recruit you to my new scum team?
It has paid benefits

[Cryptonic]

Because you don't think town would WIFOM citizen here but I don't see how it's scum indicative.

So, what is the optimal role for scum to claim in this setup?

[SilverWolf]

If you're Sheriff and Claim cit and don't claim your role before MYLO, you should eat butthole.

What's wrong with Sheriff claiming Citizen? You need to realize that the proper WIFOM could win the game n1 with this setup.

This completely contradicts your reasoning for voting for ika in the first place.

I now scumread you and Firebringer.

This game is easy.

[Firebringer]

That's scummy that you're trying to out the Sheriff hmmhmhmhmmhmhmmm

Dude I claimed scum in my first post.
I aint trying to act town.

lololol

Crypt might legit be scum.

Crypt want to leave ur scum team for my new one?
BENEFITS!!!

[ika]

You have entirely missed my point for the sake of defending your own ego.

no i see your point im just showing you that you weakened your own arguement by saying "most"

i mean if you want to talk about it its gonna be agree to disagree.

as for ego, you should realize i really dont give a fuck overall about egos and crap like that

[MattZed]

FUCK, I knew i should have killed matt first before i "claimed" scum.

I am caught.

This is not helping.

is matt claiming sheriff?
I have legit read nothing before i posted that i was scum.

I might be sheriff.

Yea, if you wait until MYLO to claim your true role, that's just BEGGING for a CC.

This is precisely my point.

Although how much faith do you honestly have in Mesk/ika to unclaim before MYLO if they're sheriff? Real question.

[Cryptonic]

=)

gr8 participation. you'd think that explaining one's vote would be the norm in Mafia

[SilverWolf]

So, what is the optimal role for scum to claim in this setup?

I don't believe scum would claim anything straight out of the gate. I'm not calling ika town. I just am not seeing scum motivation in what you are accusing him of.

[Cryptonic]

This completely contradicts your reasoning for voting for ika in the first place.

I now scumread you and Firebringer.

This game is easy.

you scum read the person voting your bb, and the person who claimed scum.

if only mafia was that easy.

[ika]

gr8 participation. you'd think that explaining one's vote would be the norm in Mafia

(=

[Firebringer]

i am the real sheriff.
but i am not lynching matt till LYLO.

Who you think he would recruit? I think crypt

[Cryptonic]

I don't believe scum would claim anything straight out of the gate. I'm not calling ika town. I just am not seeing scum motivation in what you are accusing him of.

But you do realize that legitimately the only legitimate role a scum could claim is Citizen in this setup.

[Cryptonic]

Who you think he would recruit? I think crypt

[MattZed]

That's scummy that you're trying to out the Sheriff hmmhmhmhmmhmhmmm

Also this.

Normally, I'd consider intentionally scummy behavior a possible indication of a TPR trying to lie low, but given the chance for us to win this N1 this really defeats the point; no sensible Kira would convert the scummiest player. At best, FB didn't read the setup and is trying to WIFOM anyways.

[Firebringer]

you scum read the person voting your bb, and the person who claimed scum.

if only mafia was that easy.

In the words of the arbiter

Were it so easy?

[Cryptonic]

Firebringer is so hard to read for me, that's why I love playing with the guy.

[Firebringer]

Also this.

Normally, I'd consider intentionally scummy behavior a possible indication of a TPR trying to lie low, but given the chance for us to win this N1 this really defeats the point; no sensible Kira would convert the scummiest player. At best, FB didn't read the setup and is trying to WIFOM anyways.

lol, sure.
"WIFOM"

Matt, you want to continue ur hard claim that role or u backing out to get away from 1v1?

[SilverWolf]

you scum read the person voting your bb, and the person who claimed scum.

if only mafia was that easy.

Yeah, don't bring my relationship with ika into the game. I have legit reasons for not liking your reasoning on that vote.

FB has done nothing but claim scum and troll.

[MattZed]

lol, sure.
"WIFOM"

Matt, you want to continue ur hard claim that role or u backing out to get away from 1v1?

No, I'm not going to hardclaim, and you're incredibly suspect for trying to get me to pick a town role.

Honest question: If you're town, what is your motivation here?

[ika]

lol, sure.
"WIFOM"

Matt, you want to continue ur hard claim that role or u backing out to get away from 1v1?

Matt and firebringer should do this for the 1v1

[SilverWolf]

But you do realize that legitimately the only legitimate role a scum could claim is Citizen in this setup.

Yes, but what I'm saying is they wouldn't likely do it in their first post. It's certainly possible but not likely IMO.

[MattZed]

Yes, but what I'm saying is they wouldn't likely do it in their first post. It's certainly possible but not likely IMO.

Do you find cit-claiming town-indicative, NAI, or scum-indicative?

[Cryptonic]

Scummy behavior in this game on day 1 is a legitimate town strategy as it would be against Kira''s best interest to convert someone who the town perceives as scummy.

Alternatively, the scummy behavior can also result in a sheriff check n1, clearing said scummy town.

There are layers on top of that to read the slot as highly aware scum or sheriff, but it's useless to consider that currently.

[Firebringer]

Yeah, don't bring my relationship with ika into the game. I have legit reasons for not liking your reasoning on that vote.

FB has done nothing but claim scum and troll.

umm i have done a bit more, i even expressed some reads.
i think scum are matt and cryptic right now

SuperJack, U are town, Ika is likely town.
I am doing lots!

No, I'm not going to hardclaim, and you're incredibly suspect for trying to get me to pick a town role.

Honest question: If you're town, what is your motivation here?

My motivation? Isn't that your job if you are town?
You point out what my motivation is and then I explain my real motivation. Because you will likely get it wrong.

But sure, ill let you know. I want people to know I am confirmed, ur scum. And we should find ur ally.

=)

[MattZed]

Scummy behavior in this game on day 1 is a legitimate town strategy as it would be against Kira''s best interest to convert someone who the town perceives as scummy.

Alternatively, the scummy behavior can also result in a sheriff check n1, clearing said scummy town.

There are layers on top of that to read the slot as highly aware scum or sheriff, but it's useless to consider that currently.

Scum has detection immunity N1, so the idea of clearing someone is irrelevant.

Are your proposing that town would want to be scummy so they don't change their wincon, or are you suggesting that cits can appear scummy to increase the chance the sheriff is converted?

[Cryptonic]

Yeah, don't bring my relationship with ika into the game. I have legit reasons for not liking your reasoning on that vote.

FB has done nothing but claim scum and troll.

So let me get this straight

Kira is more likely to claim Kira and troll than he is to claim Citizen? How do you figure that?

[Cryptonic]

Scum has detection immunity N1, so the idea of clearing someone is irrelevant.

Are your proposing that town would want to be scummy so they don't change their wincon, or are you suggesting that cits can appear scummy to increase the chance the sheriff is converted?

Wow seems like you really know Kiras rolecard

[Firebringer]

so i am guessing u have a town read on me crypt?
or is that "I can't read fire bringer" thing still going?

[Cryptonic]

Scum has detection immunity N1, so the idea of clearing someone is irrelevant.

Are your proposing that town would want to be scummy so they don't change their wincon, or are you suggesting that cits can appear scummy to increase the chance the sheriff is converted?

I also am claiming both those things as possible outcomes. Subconscious or not

[SuperJack]

Im gonna play some Star Citizen so I'll be back later probs.

[Firebringer]

Im gonna play some Star Citizen so I'll be back later probs.

go play ur stupid star citizens.....

i miss u

come back to me bae.

[SuperJack]

Wow seems like you really know Kiras rolecard

LOL so he should, he is your staff after all, and his job to check the setups.

[SuperJack]

go play ur stupid star citizens.....

i miss u

come back to me bae.

sure what you wanna play instead? im down for anything.

[Cryptonic]

so i am guessing u have a town read on me crypt?
or is that "I can't read fire bringer" thing still going?

Nah you're insane d1 for me to read you as anything lol
I'd probably lean town using logic, but sometimes i think you enjoying yourself supercedes logic lol

[MattZed]

My motivation? Isn't that your job if you are town?
You point out what my motivation is and then I explain my real motivation. Because you will likely get it wrong.

But sure, ill let you know. I want people to know I am confirmed, ur scum. And we should find ur ally.

=)

Why are you pretending to not know that there's only one scum atm?

Wow seems like you really know Kiras rolecard

You would have fired me if I didn't, boss.

[SilverWolf]

Do you find cit-claiming town-indicative, NAI, or scum-indicative?

NAI, as I do with any sort of claim in an opening post.

[BananaCucho]

What's wrong with stopping a fight?

-vote BananaCucho

Reading is hard.

[Cryptonic]

LOL so he should, he is your staff after all, and his job to check the setups.

LOL shut up man

[Firebringer]

sure what you wanna play instead? im down for anything.

i still haven't fixed my computer
unless u have xbox one.

Ill get that fixed this weekend.

[MattZed]

LOL shut up man

You tell him, sir!

[Firebringer]

Why are you pretending to not know that there's only one scum atm?


You would have fired me if I didn't, boss.

Pretending?

[Firebringer]

Nah you're insane d1 for me to read you as anything lol
I'd probably lean town using logic, but sometimes i think you enjoying yourself supercedes logic lol

lol this post made my day <3

[MattZed]

Pretending?

Claiming to have not read the setup?

[SuperJack]

i still haven't fixed my computer
unless u have xbox one.

Ill get that fixed this weekend.

I don't have a Console Saving up for a Vive Headset and a Mortgage,-.--

[SuperJack]

LOL shut up man

ok

[Firebringer]

Claiming to have not read the setup?

no.....
i just crumbed that i didn't read it.

also i claimed scum, and then sheriff.

Keep up man.

[Cryptonic]

ok

Pls bb take me back I know I made mistakes but I miss u Pls don't do this to me