S-FM 221: Death Note

[SilverWolf]

"THERE IS NO IKA META"

"IKA IS PLAYING TOWN, BECAUSE I KNOW IKA WHEN HE'S TOWN EVEN THO THERE IS NO META"

You're scum.

[SilverWolf]

So Cryptonic is scum, the other option on my list. I'm down with that also, but if it fails Banana is next.

I'm pretty sure you'd have an easier time getting one of them lynched if you'd give reasons why you think they are scum.

[SilverWolf]

1) I started the ika train, so it's not opportunistic at all.
2) I changed over the MattZed because I wanted a lynch yesterday, and felt MattZed was more scummy than ika. I don't see how it is opportunistic to change votes from the person who gets lynched.
3) Can you explain how the Banana lynch is opportunistic? He only had 2 votes at the time; if I wanted to be opportunistic, I would've voted you since you are a much easier lynch target. I am just lending my vote with L to see how Banana reacts, like I stated when I voted.


It really feels like you're smearing me with 0 evidence to back up your arguments here.

1) ika was a mislynch so this is nothing to brag about

2) MattZed was a train going to lynchville and you switched over to it

3) I've never been an easy mislynch target. Most people are calling me town. However, several have expressed suspicion on Banana. Banana hasn't really been around either. I'm not sold on Banana being town but if you had to choose between the two of us Banana has a better chance of going through. You know this. You are no dummy. Also, stating you want to see how someone reacts defeats the purpose of a reaction test. You know this as well.

[SilverWolf]

You put banana to L-1 today and MattZ to L-1 yesterday. If Banana is town, you are scum. I don't think you both are.

[SilverWolf]

Like, the ONLY reason MattZ didn't get lynched yesterday is because I didn't hammer him and instead asked if there is anything else anyone would like to talk about. The only reason Banana is not at L-1 is because Mesk unvoted.

Cryptonic is scum.

[SilverWolf]

-vote Cryptonic

[BananaCucho]

You all can suck on a ding dong.

[BananaCucho]

Yea, but.. isn't there like a history? Banana throws shade at you even outside games, so maybe that is why I am not really seeing a difference in this game?

Yea, I do agree that Banana seems like they're only reading your posts and no one elses, to be honest. There is definitely a tunnel vision there, but I see that as laziness rather than full on scumminess. I find that tunnel vision of players is something that a Citizen does in a game where they have no information to go off of, and they are waiting for others to break the game but do not want to look entirely useless.

I don't think that I have had any sort of trust in Banana this game at all. The amount of content is so low that I'm not able to actually get any sort of scum nor town read. However, d1 I did receive a slight town-read on Banana because the way they treated you; I don't think the scum in a single scum game would bring attention to themselves D1 like that, but it is possble.

I would expect Kira moreso to be trying to appeal or lurk themselves through D1, which is why I said prior that SJ, Mesk, Gyr would be good guesses for a Kira yesterday, but their play is remaining the same today. So, that basically throws that argument out the window.

I would be OK with a Banana lynch today, and I am willing to throw my vote on with yours at this point of the day. I don't have anyone better to choose. Only Gyrlander seems scummy to me, but not Kira-scummy.

-vote BananaCucho

I don't even know what to say to this. I've definitely interacted with others than just MZ. Like a lot.

Matt's been stuck in a tunnel ever since I started grilling him day 1 and SJ hasn't done squat other than accuse the person voting him (me) for no apparent reasons other than "gut". So why bother sheeping this train Crypt? Are you scum?

[SilverWolf]

I would be OK with a Banana lynch today, and I am willing to throw my vote on with yours at this point of the day. I don't have anyone better to choose. Only Gyrlander seems scummy to me, but not Kira-scummy.

-vote BananaCucho

3) Can you explain how the Banana lynch is opportunistic? He only had 2 votes at the time; if I wanted to be opportunistic, I would've voted you since you are a much easier lynch target. I am just lending my vote with L to see how Banana reacts, like I stated when I voted.

You put Banana to L-1 and Mesk unvoted. You said you were doing it for pressure but actually you were doing it because you were o.k. with it.

The contradictions here are quite clear. You are not following a clear or coherent thought process. Why is that?

[BananaCucho]

on that note, im gonna go find that shoe. its probably in the ditch where i thought i was dying
also all my town reads are on the banana train
i wanna be on the banana train
but i don't wanna put banana at l-1
holla atchyo home girl when y'all ready

Psh. Sheep.

[SilverWolf]

I have to go out and don't have time to do an ISO but Crypt is scummy.

Lynch with fire please!!

[BananaCucho]

I mean are you fucking serious?

That post I quoted of yours was you using a META argument to call ika scum saying he acted that same way in a game you saw him as scum in. I used a meta argument to call him town for NOT playing like he did as scum in EMPIRE.

So yes ika has meta because you used it yourself FFS. If he was a brand new player, then no he wouldn't have meta.

Fucking go check the damn wiki and figure out how what words mean before you use them in your cases.

Nothing is more frustrating to me than someone BSing my posts, word twisting them, or downright misrepping me completely and you and gyrlander have both done that over and over. I don't think you are both scum doing it. I think you could be just extremely shitty town that is gonna mislynch people into the ground and let Kira skate.

I actually do want to be lynched to teach you a lesson at this rate. If I could self vote I would. You need to learn how to scumhunt and if seeing how fucking wrong you are helps, then I'll be a sacrifice. Maybe you'll actually look at EVERYONE'S ISO instead of picking and choosing people and deciding they are scum no matter what.

Actually, look up the word confbias. It's what you are doing. You decided I was scum from d1 and that ika was scum from d1. You proceeded to go through both of our posts and pick and choose what to comment on and call it scum with no though whatsoever to how it could be town. You decided we were scum and you never re-evaluated.

I don't think anyone other than the 2 currently voting you actually think you're scum or will vote for you today. So don't sweat it.

[Cryptonic]

1) ika was a mislynch so this is nothing to brag about

2) MattZed was a train going to lynchville and you switched over to it

3) I've never been an easy mislynch target. Most people are calling me town. However, several have expressed suspicion on Banana. Banana hasn't really been around either. I'm not sold on Banana being town but if you had to choose between the two of us Banana has a better chance of going through. You know this. You are no dummy. Also, stating you want to see how someone reacts defeats the purpose of a reaction test. You know this as well.

You're dumb. I'm not bragging about it. You said I was opportunistic for jumping on ika's train. I started ika's train, and wasn't on it after the lynch. AKA you are wrong that I was opportunistic in that.

[Cryptonic]

You put banana to L-1 today and MattZ to L-1 yesterday. If Banana is town, you are scum. I don't think you both are.

I didn't put Banana at L-1, what the fuck are you talking about lol
I put Banana at L-2, try reading the game again before saying random shit to paint people as scum.

[Cryptonic]

I have to go out and don't have time to do an ISO but Crypt is scummy.

Lynch with fire please!!

"Guys, I don't have time to make an actual case and find evidence against someone. But Crypt is scum because I am saying he has done things he hasn't done."

Sorry SW, that's now how Mafia works.

[Cryptonic]

You put Banana to L-1 and Mesk unvoted. You said you were doing it for pressure but actually you were doing it because you were o.k. with it.

The contradictions here are quite clear. You are not following a clear or coherent thought process. Why is that?

Wrong, Mesk unvoted and then I put Banana at L-2.
Don't misrep. It's super easy to read a single page on this game and see where this all happened.

[Cryptonic]

I don't even know what to say to this. I've definitely interacted with others than just MZ. Like a lot.

Matt's been stuck in a tunnel ever since I started grilling him day 1 and SJ hasn't done squat other than accuse the person voting him (me) for no apparent reasons other than "gut". So why bother sheeping this train Crypt? Are you scum?

Like who? I haven't seen that much, mostly just reactions to MattZed. I haven't seen anything.

Yes, MattZed is stuck in a tunnel it seems, I agree. But, it's better to help a confirm Town settle their gut feelings (which may or may not be right) than it is to argue against the Town Leader with circumstantial evidence.

I'm sheeping this because I don't have any players listed as scum myself, so I can feel comfortable helping a confirmed Town who does have people listed as scum. It's not like I'm following a random non-confirmed town into a misslynch.

[BananaCucho]

Like who? I haven't seen that much, mostly just reactions to MattZed. I haven't seen anything.

Yes, MattZed is stuck in a tunnel it seems, I agree. But, it's better to help a confirm Town settle their gut feelings (which may or may not be right) than it is to argue against the Town Leader with circumstantial evidence.

I'm sheeping this because I don't have any players listed as scum myself, so I can feel comfortable helping a confirmed Town who does have people listed as scum. It's not like I'm following a random non-confirmed town into a misslynch.

So you're making a lazy play while calling me lazy.

There you have it folks. A tunneler, a lazy Jack, a lazy Crypt, and a lazy Mesk threatening to put me at L-1. This is why I'm the leading train today.

[Cryptonic]

So you're making a lazy play while calling me lazy.

There you have it folks. A tunneler, a lazy Jack, a lazy Crypt, and a lazy Mesk threatening to put me at L-1. This is why I'm the leading train today.

You probably only need to wait for SW to make like 3 more posts before she becomes today's lynch.

[BananaCucho]

You probably only need to wait for SW to make like 3 more posts before she becomes today's lynch.

Naw she's town that's not happening.

[MattZed]

So, does anyone think a Kira who lost a kill has been signaling to their second Kira the logical kill tonight?

[MattZed]

So you're making a lazy play while calling me lazy.

There you have it folks. A tunneler, a lazy Jack, a lazy Crypt, and a lazy Mesk threatening to put me at L-1. This is why I'm the leading train today.

I would like to see a defense that isn't an ad hominem.

[Mesk514]

With there. I specifically said I didn't wanna put banana at l-1

[Stealthbomber16]

So, does anyone think a Kira who lost a kill has been signaling to their second Kira the logical kill tonight?

I don't see how they could.

[BananaCucho]

I would like to see a defense that isn't an ad hominem.

There's nothing to defend. That's the problem. Or do you feel SJs play is legit?

With there. I specifically said I didn't wanna put banana at l-1

I thought i read that you said since your town reads are voting me you would put me L-1 eventually it was I mistaken?

To be clear Mesk how do you read me? Town? Scum? Null?

[SilverWolf]

You probably only need to wait for SW to make like 3 more posts before she becomes today's lynch.

You wish.

[SilverWolf]

please lynch me tmr, I am prime target for second kira

I don't understand why you are being so survivalistic. I mean you yourself said you should be lynched d2.

[Mesk514]

There's nothing to defend. That's the problem. Or do you feel SJs play is legit?



I thought i read that you said since your town reads are voting me you would put me L-1 eventually it was I mistaken?

To be clear Mesk how do you read me? Town? Scum? Null?

i said my town reads were on you, but i didnt want to put you at L-1. I don't scum read ya, but i don't town read ya. I more read stealthbomber as scum then anyone else in this game for some reason. seems like an awkward fly on the wall.

[BananaCucho]

i said my town reads were on you, but i didnt want to put you at L-1. I don't scum read ya, but i don't town read ya. I more read stealthbomber as scum then anyone else in this game for some reason. seems like an awkward fly on the wall.

What are your thoughts on SJ? He had 3 votes on him early day 2 but people abandoned his train before he could lazily respond to it

[Mesk514]

Meh, I really wouldn't mind and SJ lynch

[Stealthbomber16]

i said my town reads were on you, but i didnt want to put you at L-1. I don't scum read ya, but i don't town read ya. I more read stealthbomber as scum then anyone else in this game for some reason. seems like an awkward fly on the wall.

thx fam

[BananaCucho]

thx fam

Why are you still on SW

[SilverWolf]

Actually what has SJ done this game? He says Crypt and Banana are scum but gives no reasons despite being asked numerous times. He is barely posting anything. He was completely under the radar d1. He's posted posts that don't really say anything. Just filler and random accusations. No comments on any of the major activity of the thread. Basically the perfect strategy for Kira. It's possible he's just super busy but still, it makes me wonder if active town is being chased when UTR scum is hiding.

[SilverWolf]

Why are you still on SW

Good question. Why isn't he re-evaluating this read or scumhunting outside of it? It's like he's content to sit there with a bad ISO job on me and not do anything else.

[SilverWolf]

thx fam

What is your read on Mesk right now?

[Stealthbomber16]

Why are you still on SW

Because I think SW is scum

What is your read on Mesk right now?

I think that mesk is a citizen. because he is still actively scumhunting despite all the shitposting

[BananaCucho]

Because I think SW is scum



I think that mesk is a citizen. because he is still actively scumhunting despite all the shitposting

Her responses today feel like genuine town frustration, not like FAs scummy frustration in MW3

She's not going to.be lynched. Thoughts on SJ though?

[Mesk514]

I think that mesk is a citizen. because he is still actively scumhunting despite all the shitposting

my vagina and i say fuck you.

#c=CitizenMesk

[Stealthbomber16]

my vagina and i say fuck you.

#c=CitizenMesk

Excuse me.

SHE is actively scumhunting.

Her responses today feel like genuine town frustration, not like FAs scummy frustration in MW3

She's not going to.be lynched. Thoughts on SJ though?

I'm down for a SJ lynch. He hasn't been actively scumhunting like mesk or crypt.

[SilverWolf]

Because I think SW is scum



I think that mesk is a citizen. because he is still actively scumhunting despite all the shitposting

And I think you are dumb.

Point out Mesk actively scumhunting.

I think you are super clueless and probably not scum for being such an idiot but I don't like dealing with it.

Just stay away from me in this game.

[Stealthbomber16]

And I think you are dumb.

Point out Mesk actively scumhunting.

I think you are super clueless and probably not scum for being such an idiot but I don't like dealing with it.

Just stay away from me in this game.

You are right, scumhunting was the wrong term to use here. How about "contributing reads to the town".

And while we're at it, not contradicting herself?

[SilverWolf]

You are right, scumhunting was the wrong term to use here. How about "contributing reads to the town".

And while we're at it, not contradicting herself?

SHe has barely posted anything you moron. Seriously, with less post it's a hell of a lot easier to never contradict. BTW, crypt did it too but you have zero interest in actually playing this game. If the site was larger, I'd ask you not to sign up with me again. I haven't this annoyed with a game in a long time. I would like you to just keep voting me if you get off on it, I don't care. But otherwise just stay the fuck away form me. If you are town, I want an apology post game for being such a dumb fuck.

Like, it's o.k. to be wrong. But it's not o.k. to do what you and gyrlander are doing to me. So fuck off both of you.

[SilverWolf]

Actually, if this continues into day 3, I will ask to be replaced.

[MattZed]

Honestly, at this point, the way I see it is that we have two mislynches left, and I would be VERY surprised if all of BC, SJ, and Crypt are town.

Who would be up for lynching them more or less in that order?

I have yet to seriously evaluate Stealth's case on SW.

[Mesk514]

Actually, if this continues into day 3, I will ask to be replaced.

who else will i follow I NEED YOU

[MattZed]

@Mesk514 , can you clarify your position on SJ?

[Mesk514]

Superjack > Banana > Cryptonic

[MattZed]

ISO on Mesk

Spoiler : Mesk's posts :

10 - cit claim
22 - dis at ika
24 - criticizes ika about truth tells
26 - fluff
27 - says ika is doing a trust tell she doesn't believe; votes ika
30 - fluff
35 - unvotes ika after SW says he's not doing a trust tell
40 - "I've beenon my best behavior"
234 - "What's up"
238 - says she's glad her question sparked conversation (sarcasm in response to #234?)
247 - "lolwtf" at Crypt's meta scumread from Mesk not shitposting
312 - claims to have had a post that didn't go through due to daily site downtime
315 - asks to be left out of SW's evil speculation
327 - votes Gyrlander after he didn't like the me or ika trains
328 - promises to not let SW down as town
354 - asks Crypt if he thinks she's scum
361 - likes Crypt after he says he was just reaction testing her; offers a town bloc
514 - says nothing happened, and that her only read is that Crypt is town
618 - says she'll keep her vote on Gyr
699 - comments on lack of deaths; votes SJ because she would have converted him if anyone
725 - changes vote to BC because I was on her train
732 - claims SW is obv town
743 - fluff
744 - unvote + more fluff
745 - fluff
747 - fluff
749 - fluff
750 - asks for explanation of the game
753 - fluff
755 - claims cit again and claims to not be paying attention
757 - fluff; claiming cit again
758 - fluff
761 - fluff with more cit claim
762 - fluff
764 - fluff
765 - fluff
766 - fluff
768 - fluff
769 - fluff
770 - fluff
771 - says all her town reads are on the BC train and that she wants to join the train but doesn't wanna L-1 BC
772 - fluff
791 - makes some point about meta
823 - reminds SW she didn't want BC at L-1
828 - reiterates her vote on BC is because her townreads are voting her; says her top scumread is stealth for standing out.

There's... not a lot to work with here. As such, a null read is appropriate. I get a general town feel from her consistency: even though she isn't doing much, she will admit she townreads Crypt and says why, and only comments on things relative to her alleged paying little attention. I am somewhat bothered by the previous Gyrlander vote, (which I would like explained, @Mesk514 ) but she is definitely not a top lynch candidate now.

[MattZed]

Superjack > Banana > Cryptonic

For what it's worth I'm actually starting to think this.

Assuming you mean lynch order.

[Mesk514]

For what it's worth I'm actually starting to think this.

Assuming you mean lynch order.

yes of course.