I agree with banana here.
This game was a town win no matter how you look at it.
If you want to put it in the ladder as completed thats fine.
Was it balanced? Hell No, Should it have been approved with this role list? No
But our ladder has had alot of fucking unbalanced games so honestly doesn't matter.
Don't pet growlithe, he will bite you.
You don't mill yourself by using gang up
Go for the good old classics instead : 200px-Nat_Pagle_HS.jpg
[23:19:33] DarknessB: Sino is Mass Murderer -- I don't care if there isn't one in the setup!
[23:19:39] DarknessB:-vote Sino
Serious note and constructive criticism:
@MattZed could take an few notes on game balance. This is not the first time that completely unbalanced games have come out of his shop (the FM having sleep walking citizens that could have run into vet for example). Like this game was stupid town heavy especially with 2 town kidnappers. I thought one of them for sure should have been scum - except not cause, its a MattZed game.
Maybe @Cryptonic or @Orpz can help you with picking roles for your setup? The setups themselves can work but the roles you pick make them broken.
Last edited by BananaCucho; December 8th, 2016 at 05:36 PM.
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
Don't pet growlithe, he will bite you.
I mean the only way to truly fix a mattzed game I think is to have someone always co-mod the game with him and they have to preapprove the role list before it goes out
Don't pet growlithe, he will bite you.
This game should have spawned 1 TPR with GF and Consig
And the rest be tailors, janitors, drug dealers (citizens)
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
It's important to discuss it here too where all the players are.
I don't think that the Kidnappers were THAT overpowered. No Lynching is very rare.
It was just that the D1 No Lynch turned out to be fatal for the scum due to the town circle that formed and the resulting 2 KPN that the town had.
You guys keep saying how town is pratically guaranteed to win this,
but me Sen and Yuki were 1 day away from winning when we literally killed no one pre-slip.
@deathworlds pls make sure mattzed has someone to look over role list before game starts.
Don't pet growlithe, he will bite you.
Yeah it makes no sense to lynch when you can take down 2 scums with double kidnapper
Dat almost turbo lynch tho...
Tbh I was playing heroes with ika and dw AND DARKNESS AND UNKNOWN at the time of the almost turbo lynch and I looked at my phone and saw we were L-2 and just didn't care to come claim. I kinda hoped it would have happened and then town lost so they could learn a lesson in not doing that.
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
@Unknown1234
Pls
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
2/13 players is not that much. Cancer was at L-1 so it wasn't like the Kidnappers were a major influence here.
In this setup, the scum essentially HAVE to push for a lynch every single day because their aim is to weaken the town and their enemies as soon as possible. Kidnapper is a weak scum role so they have to limit the influence of any town-aligned ones.
It actually makes more sense for town to deliberately No Lynch on Day 1 in the case that they have a Kidnapper.
My problem is, it's not up to FB to decide the game is over. He took that upon himself to decide and that's what ticked me off. That said, I agree it was Town sided and needs to be balanced better in the future.
[23:19:33] DarknessB: Sino is Mass Murderer -- I don't care if there isn't one in the setup!
[23:19:39] DarknessB:-vote Sino
Pretty sure if RLVG hadn't been double kidnapped like this, the outcome would've changed a lot.
[23:19:33] DarknessB: Sino is Mass Murderer -- I don't care if there isn't one in the setup!
[23:19:39] DarknessB:-vote Sino
Sorry man it got mixed in with the sudden rush of posts that came along
If you could discuss this further in your trio we would appreciate it. Cause this happens a lot in MZs setups. Again this is constructive criticism but he never responds to any criticism of his games, not publicly usually.
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
Woof
I read Calixs response like a dog. Not a human being
Woof 🐕
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
and I'm not mad at anyone, nor I'm sorry for anything.
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
if a host doesn tgive a fuck and is know to do that then maybe
but i think for you to argue it moreso is that it needs to be applied in all cases. didnt the last game have 0 kidnappers or something?
i mena if a host doesnt give a fuck then it should be to FM staff to correct it and if it continues the game wont have signs to play