S-FM 217: Masquerade Madness

[S-FM Blue Masquerader]

answer*

and can you please elaborate on how you progressed green read during day 1 and how that changed suddenly when day 2 started?

and I need to leave soon - if you didn't answer by then I will read them whenever I could tomorrow

[S-FM Pink Masquerader]

Btw, I tried to keep watch as much as I could during the night of the game, and the only person I saw come back online was Red @ 1.5 hours after day ended.

[S-FM Blue Masquerader]

I don't see your point. Yellow said that "I think Green is SK who disguised" and that was his reasoning. Where's the poor logic?

I misread his post. I have no idea why I considered "I highly suspect" as a negative impression for a moment.

saying that I need to leave.

[S-FM Pink Masquerader]

I think everyone, including me, should pull a few posts from each other from both d1 and d2 once we get around the 24 hr mark. if EVERYONE does comparisons on everyone, then we will have a good variety of examples to go through. only after we do something like this should we be operating under the assumption if the SK disguised or not.

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

Btw, I tried to keep watch as much as I could during the night of the game, and the only person I saw come back online was Red @ 1.5 hours after day ended.

I never logged out of my account. I don't know how it appears to other people but I think I show up online for 15 minutes if I refresh the page after the time-out period or some shit.

[S-FM Blue Masquerader]

Btw, I tried to keep watch as much as I could during the night of the game, and the only person I saw come back online was Red @ 1.5 hours after day ended.

I got online multiple times as well and I saw red and orange online.

and as I said the only person who weren't online to see Ice flip post was green. he logged off after hammering ...

[S-FM Pink Masquerader]

that green was the sk - so everyone else was town.

I know orange was town regardless because of not hammering you over voting purple.

Yes, Orange was 99% Town yesterday, so doing a comparison for Orange would be a good start for people once we get a few more pages in. If we keep him cleared for today, at least, it improves our lynch chances.

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

I'm waiting for a reads list from Yellow right now. Then I'll chip in with further thoughts on this matter.

[S-FM Yellow Masquerader]

I don't undertand. You have a paradox here ? if you beleive SK would want to keep their no disguise shot for later days - thats saying you think Green was the SK who disguised...

Uh... obviously I think green was the SK... I think that's obvious

[S-FM Pink Masquerader]

I got online multiple times as well and I saw red and orange online.

and as I said the only person who weren't online to see Ice flip post was green. he logged off after hammering ...

Yea well I slept so that was like 10-12 hrs I missed, so I didn't see everything

What's the point in logging on to your account again after the hammer dropped?
If Green was not on to submit a night action (he could've immediately after hammering), then it could be indicative of not being SK.

[S-FM Blue Masquerader]

I got online multiple times as well and I saw red and orange online.

and as I said the only person who weren't online to see Ice flip post was green. he logged off after hammering ...

oh and yellow wasn't online as well. he was'nt there for EOD at all but that wasn't an abnormal behavior from what we saw from his day 1 so thats not AI at all.

[S-FM Yellow Masquerader]

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and can you please elaborate on how you progressed green read during day 1 and how that changed suddenly when day 2 started?

and I need to leave soon - if you didn't answer by then I will read them whenever I could tomorrow

If you're talking to me I swear you really aren't following.. yesterday I said I thought green was SK. Today I said I think Green disguised because he is SK and I would presume that SK would want to save their one time no disguise kill. HENCE BECAUSE GREEN DISGUISED HE SHOWED UP AS A CIT.

[S-FM Blue Masquerader]

Yea well I slept so that was like 10-12 hrs I missed, so I didn't see everything

What's the point in logging on to your account again after the hammer dropped?
If Green was not on to submit a night action (he could've immediately after hammering), then it could be indicative of not being SK.

We all stayed logged in to see purple's flip from ICE. Green didn't stay for purple's flip.

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

Trying to read players based on wherever they were logged on or not is extremely likely to backfire for the sole reason that none of us are capable of watching the site for 24 hours to see what every single person did.

So this is unproductive imo.

[S-FM Blue Masquerader]

If you're talking to me I swear you really aren't following.. yesterday I said I thought green was SK. Today I said I think Green disguised because he is SK and I would presume that SK would want to save their one time no disguise kill. HENCE BECAUSE GREEN DISGUISED HE SHOWED UP AS A CIT.

I asked you a question about green yesterday. do you know what it was or not?

[S-FM Pink Masquerader]

Uh... obviously I think green was the SK... I think that's obvious

If Green didn't hammer like that, I probably would think Green only had tiny chance of being SK. The fact that he defended Purple that much, hammered when day was almost over with 0 explanation, and then dies. I would be inclined to agree with you, but I don't think it's safe to say it's for certain.
It could be that someone saw Green hammer & so SK no-disguise killed Green in order to make us think Green was SK. But really, this could go on forever. Occam's Razor states that he would be SK in this situation, but I'm going to do some comparisons closer to midpoint once everyone has posted more.
Ps. not only am i looking for differences in speech, I'll be looking for things that are INDENTICAL in speech (ie copy and pasted idioms)

[S-FM Yellow Masquerader]

oh and yellow wasn't online as well. he was'nt there for EOD at all but that wasn't an abnormal behavior from what we saw from his day 1 so thats not AI at all.

I also didn't vote purple -.-

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

I asked you a question about green yesterday. do you know what it was or not?

Have you tried repeating it/ linking it so that he doesn't have to look at 1000 posts to find it...?

[S-FM Blue Masquerader]

Trying to read players based on wherever they were logged on or not is extremely likely to backfire for the sole reason that none of us are capable of watching the site for 24 hours to see what every single person did.

So this is unproductive imo.

Thats just a clue supporting green was sk who disguised which will help us understand the game state not a reading tool. I agree that might backfire as a reading tool.

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

Pink, why would you tell people what you are looking for? Isn't this just telling the SK what criteria they need to follow to appease you?

[S-FM Pink Masquerader]

We all stayed logged in to see purple's flip from ICE. Green didn't stay for purple's flip.

Yea, but I saw no one from the game on, then Red came back on. And Red was here at day end.
Just wanted to see Red address it. I mean, it's not really a scum read at all; he could've went to the site and was autologged in, and logged out but I saw him online.

[S-FM Blue Masquerader]

Have you tried repeating it/ linking it so that he doesn't have to look at 1000 posts to find it...?

no. I want to know if he knows what it was or not- not the answer.

[S-FM Pink Masquerader]

Pink, why would you tell people what you are looking for? Isn't this just telling the SK what criteria they need to follow to appease you?

Does 2 things:
1) gives you reads when you see that i'm doing it vs if i'm not
2) forces the SK to think more about posts than they should, making slips easier, posts looking more forced, ect.

Plus, everyone else is probably looking for other things, so the combination of everything will be helpful.

[S-FM Pink Masquerader]

BRB going to grocery store/liquor store/gas station

[S-FM Blue Masquerader]

I also didn't vote purple -.-

whats this comment purpose?

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

Point #2 is probably your best point, Pink.

I'm starting to consider some tinfoil strategies tbqh. Yellow doesn't give me "disguised by Green" vibes at the moment but I would still like to hear more on their previous/ current reads and I won't be happy if he ignores that query of mine.

Green, do you think any of us could have been disguised by Green?

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

Point #2 is probably your best point, Pink.

I'm starting to consider some tinfoil strategies tbqh. Yellow doesn't give me "disguised by Green" vibes at the moment but I would still like to hear more on their previous/ current reads and I won't be happy if he ignores that query of mine.

Yellow, do you think any of us could have been disguised by Green?

EBWOP

[S-FM Blue Masquerader]

I'm leaving now. everyone expalin the developement of your reads based on last day EOD and green death please.

[S-FM Yellow Masquerader]

whats this comment purpose?

Well why would it matter if I was around for EOD if I'm not anticipating the train I wished to but put forward go through?

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

Obligatory "I can see you're online, Orange" callout post ;)

Obligatory "I'd like those reads, Yellow" callout post.

[S-FM Orange Masquerader]

Green is a town member that's easy to tunnel players hard and plays with emotion. This causes a situation in which that a serial killer can manipulate green and have them favored in the task of mislynches. Killing Green is a mistake.

This makes me believe that there's some weird kind of gambit here involving their death, or that we're supposed to look deep into who they scumread / buddied.
That, or Green was the SK all along, or we're seeing some kind of bullshit red herring that makes no sense to us.

he was hoping for orange or someone else hammering you.

Too bad I had no intention to hammer Red.

Btw, I tried to keep watch as much as I could during the night of the game, and the only person I saw come back online was Red @ 1.5 hours after day ended.

What, are we not allowed to re-read the game during night time regardless of any alignment?

I got online multiple times as well and I saw red and orange online.

I confirm this fact.

Obligatory "I can see you're online, Orange" callout post ;)

GET OUT!

[S-FM Yellow Masquerader]

I do have a player in mind who may be disguised. But honestly I'm not really wanting to discuss it at this moment as I would feel more comfortable making accusations after I've heard from everyone.

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

I do have a player in mind who may be disguised. But honestly I'm not really wanting to discuss it at this moment as I would feel more comfortable making accusations after I've heard from everyone.

Why do you want to hear from everyone first?

(also everyone has popped in at this point so ;p)

[S-FM Orange Masquerader]

I've looked into the grammatical and behavior of the players so far and I see nothing intrusive and wholly changed.
We're dealing with a SK that did a kill to make a red herring and one who will probably do the long-con of no killing.

Because of this, my reads have not changed with exception of that Purple is confirmed by lynch.

I had two top scum reads and one of them is dead, so I'll initiate the votings with...

-vote S-FM Pink Masquerader

[S-FM Yellow Masquerader]

That being said, I don't think a wall post is necessary. Now that green is gone I'm thinking a pink/blue lynch today

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

Green is a town member that's easy to tunnel players hard and plays with emotion. This causes a situation in which that a serial killer can manipulate green and have them favored in the task of mislynches. Killing Green is a mistake.

This makes me believe that there's some weird kind of gambit here involving their death, or that we're supposed to look deep into who they scumread / buddied.
That, or Green was the SK all along, or we're seeing some kind of bullshit red herring that makes no sense to us.

Fuck. You actually have good spelling. I was hoping that you wouldn't so that this would be gg ez. I was actually having the same thought after seeing some of Yellow's responses. When I saw his irritation in response to Blue, I started to think that. Now I'm entertaining the idea that the real SK no-disguise-killed for WIFOM.

That means that the SK has to be pretty savvy. I don't think Yellow is someone who would do that - the logic in his posts does not suggest that level of thinking in my opinion.

If I'm/ we're right then SK would be among Pink/ Blue.

Great. Game becomes hard again.

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

Orange, I do NOT think that voting is a good idea. Just say that you intend to vote for Pink. I really do insist on this point.

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

That being said, I don't think a wall post is necessary. Now that green is gone I'm thinking a pink/blue lynch today

[obligatory post to ask why Pink/ Blue]

Preferably with reasons that haven't already been given if possible.

[S-FM Orange Masquerader]

Orange, I do NOT think that voting is a good idea. Just say that you intend to vote for Pink. I really do insist on this point.

A single vote to put them on L-2 isn't a bad idea and generally adds constant pressure. L-1 on the other hand...

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

A single vote to put them on L-2 isn't a bad idea and generally adds constant pressure. L-1 on the other hand...

Yeah, I do not trust people with votes this game

Saying that you want to vote for Pink adds just as much pressure.

[S-FM Orange Masquerader]

Yeah, I do not trust people with votes this game

Hey, at least green and purple is off the map. Votes should be more controlled because of that, no?

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

Hey, at least green and purple is off the map. Votes should be more controlled because of that, no?

No. Any kind of voting from this point is going to put me on the verge of a heart attack. I'm still traumatised from yesterday xD

[S-FM Yellow Masquerader]

(also everyone has popped in at this point so ;p)

I wanted to wait for orange. O.O
Anyways let's keep it simple shall we? Pink was my next in line, blue is the only person so far who seems to have a shift in personality... I found green to be a little cocky and kind of an attention whore. I'm getting that vibe from blue as of the moment

[S-FM Orange Masquerader]

No. Any kind of voting from this point is going to put me on the verge of a heart attack. I'm still traumatised from yesterday xD

Are you feeling okay, or do you need lobotomy?
Too bad, I'll have an active vote at all times now. Here's a token from my part, I can't hammer the one I'm voting for.

[S-FM Orange Masquerader]

and kind of an attention whore. I'm getting that vibe from blue as of the moment

Blue cried wolf of "I'M TOO FUCKING DEFENSIVE" yesterday.

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

I wanted to wait for orange. O.O
Anyways let's keep it simple shall we? Pink was my next in line, blue is the only person so far who seems to have a shift in personality... I found green to be a little cocky and kind of an attention whore. I'm getting that vibe from blue as of the moment

I'm going to ask you to expand on the Blue part if you don't mind. Is there a particular post/s that gives you the vibe? I would like to judge for myself.

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

Are you feeling okay, or do you need lobotomy?
Too bad, I'll have an active vote at all times now. Here's a token from my part, I can't hammer the one I'm voting for.

zzz

I just hope that Yellow/ Blue are not dumb with their votes then >_>

Blue cried wolf of "I'M TOO FUCKING DEFENSIVE" yesterday.

Please elaborate.

To save some time, if people find themselves making a declarative statement, please consider adding your reasoning so that I don't have to keep asking.

[S-FM Orange Masquerader]

Please elaborate.

To save some time, if people find themselves making a declarative statement, please consider adding your reasoning so that I don't have to keep asking.

Blue spend a lot of their time to tell everyone to make a good case on them or to fuck off, because everyone's pulling straws or misrepresenting them, and when players started to make a case, Blue started to state that they're too defensive.

Barks a lot, very reactive and even admits it themselves, yet they don't want bullshit. Throws in random words like shade and has a suppressed temper.

Unfortunately, I've attempted to find the exact post of them saying how defensive they are but to no avail.

[S-FM Pink Masquerader]

I'm pretty sure I was everybody's next in line lol

[S-FM Red Masquerader]

Update: I am trying to compile quotes about Pink because a) he is online and b) is more likely to respond reasonably to any accusations against him.

However I am not really seeing the scum motivation with him so far. I will dump quotes in a few so that you can see for yourself. (it's NOT analysis btw, just me literally spoilering a bunch of quotes by Pink which I think are important to make them easier to see)