S-FM 216 Spirits

[BananaCucho]

Stereo in both cases. This early in the game Pre-flip is bad.

Why stereo?

[Quick]

Why stereo?

I didn't like his hammer and he isn't scum hunting.

[PowersThatBe]

Why stereo?

So you're a pro player, what reads do you have? What is piquing your interest? Aside from mesk.

[BananaCucho]

I didn't like his hammer and he isn't scum hunting.

Fair enough.

[BananaCucho]

So you're a pro player, what reads do you have? What is piquing your interest? Aside from mesk.

It seems like you're not reading my posts either. I posted a bunch if reads at the beginning of the day.

[PowersThatBe]

It seems like you're not reading my posts either. I posted a bunch if reads at the beginning of the day.

Town reading SJ as well. I 100% believe the claim and see that as a dumb town gambit.

Suspicious of Unknown for fence sitting all day 1. I wouldn't mind seeing some pressure on him.

I am town reading stereo based off that kill alone. 100% that kill was made to make me and stereo look bad.

This scum seem a like they are scheming so they have a strong leader putting thought into that kill. DW death tunnels every game for bad reasons so there's no other reason to do that.

Unfortunately PTB is a town read. That righteous indignation screams town.

Firebringer isn't looking good. Playing dumb while pretending not to play dumb is unlike him. I expected more snarky comments from him when I was interacting with him about not pulling a vote from SJ but he sat back which is not like his "I don't give a fuck" town meta

So just me, jack, unknown, stereo and fb?

What about quick, yzb, mesk? I know you voted her but is that just pressure or what? Arrow? Gyrlander?

[BananaCucho]

So just me, jack, unknown, stereo and fb?

What about quick, yzb, mesk? I know you voted her but is that just pressure or what? Arrow? Gyrlander?

You know you can have null reads, right?

[Arrow]

-vote Stereo

Because of the reasons I stated earlier, and him daring me to do it.

[PowersThatBe]

You know you can have null reads, right?

You can, but you have not opined that you are null reading them. So, I am not aware of your reads. It actually helps me to know where your head is at, and unlike you, I am not a godly mind reader who has solved this game already. K? You town read me, so if you're town, work with me, instead of making it like pulling teeth to even communicate with you.

This is why I scum read you, partially, you are not pushing reads. And when questioned you're evasive.

[BananaCucho]

You can, but you have not opined that you are null reading them. So, I am not aware of your reads. It actually helps me to know where your head is at, and unlike you, I am not a godly mind reader who has solved this game already. K? You town read me, so if you're town, work with me, instead of making it like pulling teeth to even communicate with you.

This is why I scum read you, partially, you are not pushing reads. And when questioned you're evasive.

I think you're just nit picking at this point.

[PowersThatBe]

-vote Stereo

Because of the reasons I stated earlier, and him daring me to do it.

To be fair, you were the second to last vote. At that point, no matter what AR was going to be lynched, you put stereo into the position where he could hammer. So, don't try to act all innocent mr. birdy.

[PowersThatBe]

I think you're just nit picking at this point.

I'm nit picking because I ask you for reads. And your response is "go read my posts."

Ok I go and read your posts.

6 people are missing. I ask you. "I can have NULL reads you know." -- you could just fucking state that they're null. Otherwise it just looks like you're trying to keep our attention to certain people.

Conveniently, two people who are scum read by others, you town read one, and you null read the other. When we both know Arrow's interactions would get a scum read in any other game by any other people if it were not arrow.

[BananaCucho]

I'm going to walk away now.

[PowersThatBe]

I'm going to walk away now.

[yzb25]

Town reading SJ as well. I 100% believe the claim and see that as a dumb town gambit.

Suspicious of Unknown for fence sitting all day 1. I wouldn't mind seeing some pressure on him.

While the claim is certainly plausible, you're giving it too much credence. It's very possible he sincerely planned to tunnel PTB w/o switching onto another train, or simply wished to make that argument go on for the full day 1 before relenting so that he could offset productivity - when there's a massive, pointless argument going on it basically devours any other discussion that could have happened.

Given how he seemed so discussion focused with his early strategies, grabbing the game by the reigns and forcing it in one direction seems counter-intuitive.

However, I can still see this as SJ experimenting lol.

P.S. It felt a bit off to me that Unknown was so critical of Mesk about that vote when he knew she'd be very unlikely to early hammer like that as scum, unless she was WIFOMing stupidity. It was like he was deliberately pivoting his read after he got shit for appearing to white knight Mesk.

[yzb25]

While the claim is certainly plausible, you're giving it too much credence. It's very possible he sincerely planned to tunnel PTB w/o switching onto another train, or simply wished to make that argument go on for the full day 1 before relenting so that he could offset productivity - when there's a massive, pointless argument going on it basically devours any other discussion that could have happened.

Given how he seemed so discussion focused with his early strategies, grabbing the game by the reigns and forcing it in one direction seems counter-intuitive.

However, I can still see this as SJ experimenting lol.

P.S. It felt a bit off to me that Unknown was so critical of Mesk about that vote when he knew she'd be very unlikely to early hammer like that as scum, unless she was WIFOMing stupidity. It was like he was deliberately pivoting his read after he got shit for appearing to white knight Mesk.

It was particularly weird how he continued to act suspicious of Mesk after FB had replied to him explaining why Mesk's vote wasn't actually very suspicious.

[Unknown1234]

Fires opinion is not the same as mine. She attempted to hammer and left. She never came back at all to discuss it, or to discuss anything at all.

You seem to be drawing attention towards myself in the laziest way, but not pursuing anything. Why?

[PowersThatBe]

While the claim is certainly plausible, you're giving it too much credence. It's very possible he sincerely planned to tunnel PTB w/o switching onto another train, or simply wished to make that argument go on for the full day 1 before relenting so that he could offset productivity - when there's a massive, pointless argument going on it basically devours any other discussion that could have happened.

Given how he seemed so discussion focused with his early strategies, grabbing the game by the reigns and forcing it in one direction seems counter-intuitive.

However, I can still see this as SJ experimenting lol.

P.S. It felt a bit off to me that Unknown was so critical of Mesk about that vote when he knew she'd be very unlikely to early hammer like that as scum, unless she was WIFOMing stupidity. It was like he was deliberately pivoting his read after he got shit for appearing to white knight Mesk.

We also have to remember that he purposefully fake voted into tricking someone into hammering. He could have easily done that just so he could point out they tried to hammer. I believe Mesk was switching her vote NMW to SJ because that's where me and unknown were voting and she was voting as a block with us. We switched from Arrow to SJ.

So it's curious to me that he did that, knowing she was probably going to vote that way anyway. We give more credence to Mesk being scum because of a potential Hammer but not to Stereo.

[PowersThatBe]

Fires opinion is not the same as mine. She attempted to hammer and left. She never came back at all to discuss it, or to discuss anything at all.

You seem to be drawing attention towards myself in the laziest way, but not pursuing anything. Why?

To be fair she said she was voting with us and then had to leave.

[Unknown1234]

At some point, she should have made a decision instead of flopping onto every train there was. I stopped at SuperJack.

[Unknown1234]

Before SuperJack*

[Unknown1234]

I never voted SuperJack.

[Unknown1234]

Why do you assume I was specifically baiting Mesk though?

[Arrow]

You're welcome to try and pressure me further, PTB.

[PowersThatBe]

At some point, she should have made a decision instead of flopping onto every train there was. I stopped at SuperJack.

Umm, she only voted arrow...then moved her vote to jack because there was an actual chance to get jack voted.

you seemed so opposed to sj vote, what pre game associations have you made about him?

[PowersThatBe]

I never voted SuperJack.

Do you fully read? I said you fake voted.

[PowersThatBe]

Why do you assume I was specifically baiting Mesk though?

Didn't say that, but that's who was baited and now you wanted answers about her vote or at least cast some doubt about her motives. She was the one who fell for it, so she fits in this context.

[yzb25]

If anything, DW was helping Stereo with that ridiculous tunneling. DW gave Stereo an excuse to post barely any reads while Stereo fought an endless war over "scummy" answers to a fucking questionnaire. It diminished the credibility of any Stereo train, because it contained conspiracy theorist DW.

If Stereo is a scum who agreed to the DW kill, it was because DW was a reasonably-strong townread who probably wouldn't be healed and to create the (flimsy) illusion that Stereo was framed.

Regardless, the controversial choice in NK has distracted y'all from making deep psychological reads for now, so on that level it succeeded. NK analysis pretty much never yields anything productive, because you can just keep piling layers of WIFOM over the motives of the kill.

(On post 880)

[PowersThatBe]

You're welcome to try and pressure me further, PTB.

Can't really pressure a ghost.

[Unknown1234]

Do you fully read? I said you fake voted.

You said I followed your vote on SuperJack. Don't send mixed messages.

[Unknown1234]

Didn't say that, but that's who was baited and now you wanted answers about her vote or at least cast some doubt about her motives. She was the one who fell for it, so she fits in this context.

I haven't "castes doubt" though. I haven't even voted her because she hasn't said anything at this point.

[PowersThatBe]

You said I followed your vote on SuperJack. Don't send mixed messages.

I said she was following our votes and you made it appear you voted on jack. Is it really this complicated?

[PowersThatBe]

I haven't "castes doubt" though. I haven't even voted her because she hasn't said anything at this point.

But your intro to questioning it did suggest you don't think her vote was town motivated

[Unknown1234]

I said she was following our votes and you made it appear you voted on jack. Is it really this complicated?

Have you read my title?

[Unknown1234]

But your intro to questioning it did suggest you don't think her vote was town motivated

I'm allowed to have an opinion though. My point is not to act on it until she explains. I'd rather not Quick lynch anyone anyways.

[Mesk514]

-vote BananaCucho

[BananaCucho]

-vote BananaCucho

Going to answer my question?

[Unknown1234]

-vote BananaCucho

Why Banana? Why not answer questions?

[PowersThatBe]

I am town reading stereo based off that kill alone. 100% that kill was made to make me and stereo look bad.

This scum seem a like they are scheming so they have a strong leader putting thought into that kill. DW death tunnels every game for bad reasons so there's no other reason to do that.

No one else finds this post problematic?

[PowersThatBe]

Why Banana? Why not answer questions?

Banana is policy lynch. Doesn't matter if we mislynch though. Because policy lynches are most important.

[Unknown1234]

Banana is policy lynch. Doesn't matter if we mislynch though. Because policy lynches are most important.

Then this is a terrible policy lynch.

[BananaCucho]

This is S-FM Wheels on the Bus all over again lol

[PowersThatBe]

Then this is a terrible policy lynch.

I'm being sarcastic. le sigh.

[Unknown1234]

This is S-FM Wheels on the Bus all over again lol

But I had to, because you threatened my role :/

[BananaCucho]

But I had to, because you threatened my role :/

Lol I guess that's one key difference

[Mesk514]

Why Banana? Why not answer questions?

I'm not reading this autism filled game. I got no ping nothing so fuck it. I'm following ptb.
Ptb when you change your vote ping me.

[BananaCucho]

I'm not reading this autism filled game. I got no ping nothing so fuck it. I'm following ptb.
Ptb when you change your vote ping me.

Can you replace out if you have no intention of playing?

[BananaCucho]

@Mesk514

Please replace out if you have no intention of playing. Seriously.

[PowersThatBe]

Can you replace out if you have no intention of playing?

Why don't you PL her? Don't you wanna teach her a lesson?

[Mesk514]

Nope, why don't you all PL me