S-FM 214 Mean Girls

[Whad]

It was blowing so hard my eyes started to dry out.

Omg is that a fan picture. Love the fans guys. Love the fans.

[Whad]

@Whad I see you, you scum bro? trying to locate purbe's partners.

Nah not scum this time. Explain why you think purbe is scum. Who is purbe btw. Give me the lowdown on purbe, suntax, and stereo. Everyone else I've played with.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Nah not scum this time. Explain why you think purbe is scum. Who is purbe btw. Give me the lowdown on purbe, suntax, and stereo. Everyone else I've played with.

Purebe was my friend I met on warcraft 3 like 10 years ago. I have been probably in a skype call with him for probably over 5 years (real life time). He is new to mafia, but I should have a soul read on him.

Stereo plays on the sc2mod, so we shall see how well he does here.

Suntax is russian I think, so we are fucked if we get on his bad side unless we have vodka to give.

I don't know if purebe is scum, but I will after he pressured.

[Stereo]

Stereo plays on the sc2mod, so we shall see how well he does here.

I am a better town leader as Jester than I am an actual townie.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I am a better town leader as Jester than I am an actual townie.

When I roll jester I just play as if I am a sheriff, and lead town to greatness. Nothing like bodyguards and consilieres dieing dueling over your jester life after you get the godfather lynched...

[Whad]

Well I'm off to sleep so I won't be back for a bit. Tbh out of everyone who's posted so far I'd rather lynch Duckk since his many town/scum lists/callouts feel like super shitty attempts to fake cop that aren't at all convincing me he's a VT, are confusing on the very slim chance he is cop, and thus seems like overconfident mafia who knows alignments and is throwing alignment "guesses" around.

-vote PLZLEAVEDUCKK

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Well I'm off to sleep so I won't be back for a bit. Tbh out of everyone who's posted so far I'd rather lynch Duckk since his many town/scum lists/callouts feel like super shitty attempts to fake cop that aren't at all convincing me he's a VT, are confusing on the very slim chance he is cop, and thus seems like overconfident mafia who knows alignments and is throwing alignment "guesses" around.

-vote PLZLEAVEDUCKK

omgus!

Duck overconfident so scum? How can I be scum when I already solved the game.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Well I'm off to sleep so I won't be back for a bit. Tbh out of everyone who's posted so far I'd rather lynch Duckk since his many town/scum lists/callouts feel like super shitty attempts to fake cop that aren't at all convincing me he's a VT, are confusing on the very slim chance he is cop, and thus seems like overconfident mafia who knows alignments and is throwing alignment "guesses" around.

-vote PLZLEAVEDUCKK

omgus!

Duck overconfident so scum? How can I be scum when I already solved the game.

[secondpassing]

-vote purebe

:l

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

-vote purebe

:l

My vote is on purebe

so we can assume he is at L-2

[Mesk514]

Can't vote someone who posts a photo of a fan

-vote unvote

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

@purebe what are your reads so far. Don't make me link you a picture of a praying mantis spider wasp hybrid scary thing again.
@Mesk514 what is your read on me and your read on eggy?

[Mesk514]

Duck your play has been like every other play. The one thing that you've yet to do to make your play a valid "town" play is by claiming survivor. &&& it is this you have yet to do. I am shocked.
However your, I know & I know that play does not surprise me. You ramble a lot as scum though. But then again, this is 60 posts into the game, everything's ramble.

Lol eggy said what? His policy vote? There's nothing indicative whatsoever.

Also, I'm super surprised whad made not setup speculation for his opener! Oh how I missed him

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Ask whad to explain his reads this game, uses it to explain a scum read on me :/ feeldbadman.

I am a little concerned that only one person has slightly mentioned suntax, and nobody voted unknown after how um interesting.... his opening was.

[purebe]

Hey, so like:

What is your opinion about RVS?
How are you and DUCKK connected?
Have you played against RuFF in SC2Ladder?

I'm down with RVS, is there any counter argument to it? Used to play WC3 with Duck + what he said. I don't think I've ever matched ruff, he probably woulda wrecked me, no idea how to play vs his shit.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I'm down with RVS, is there any counter argument to it? Used to play WC3 with Duck + what he said. I don't think I've ever matched ruff, he probably woulda wrecked me, no idea how to play vs his shit.

who do you think is town and mafia. Also fuck cancer mech.

[purebe]

@PLZLEAVEDUCK: at the moment I'm pretty sure we're all mean girls, this thread has been rough

[Unknown1234]

I'm sorry guys. If you thought I was scum, I have a different role again so it's back to guessing.

*sighs* too bad we can't figure out what Unknowns role in the first place is. If he wasn't so incredibly difficult to read it would be less of a challenge (tee hee)

[Unknown1234]

I think it is leaning towards unknown as scum. In games I have played and watched I have successfully read unknown every game, and have had to hard defend him in some games. The only game he was mafia I was with him and bussing him, and now that he might be mafia when I am town, there is a chance he is throwing his play style off to confuse me. If so it is working, but I think it may be a bit of a stretch to say he would be changing his play style to fool one particular player.

Eggy's town tone was from "I will" or w/e he said in response to hammering a quick lynch. In his mafia game with purebe where I was helping pure, I paid a lot of attention to eggy, and told purebe to basically distance. In reading his posts he seems to play more towards the 'follow town, I am one of you guys' by saying things like "we shouldn't lynch until the very end of day, etc.

His town tone has since gone away though. Fucker called me retarded or scum. I am both retarded and scum, thank you.

Hmm. He might be onto me if I'm scum. If I'm town he's just losing his screws.

[Unknown1234]

omgus!

Duck overconfident so scum? How can I be scum when I already solved the game.

Hehehe. Duck is overconfident.

[Unknown1234]

-vote purebe

:l

I will cook that if you are not careful with it.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

unknown what the fuck are you doing.

[Unknown1234]

unknown what the fuck are you doing.

Sorry.

Sheep?

[Eggy]

So I am retarded or scum for saying secondpassing is town, but you are 1000% sure mesk is town because she said she was?

LOL k.

mesk is always town

[Unknown1234]

mesk is always town

+1 Eggy.

[Eggy]

-vote plzleaveduck

time to ruffle your feathers

[Eggy]

-vote plzleaveduck

time to ruffle your feathers

-vote PLZLEAVEDUCK

wud work better if I cud spell ur name u god damn aquatic avian

[Unknown1234]

-vote plzleaveduck

time to ruffle your feathers

That was a good post if you had correctly voted him.

[Unknown1234]

Stereo feels incredibly opportunistic by being in the background this game. I don't know if it's AI because he died n1, but he needs to talk more.

-vote Stereo

[Eggy]

oh you bastard the second K I see what you did there. Im not moving my vote just because you obviously are pulling some deceptive scum based maneuvers with that bullshit extra K. Trying to avoid lynches at what not

-vote PLZLEAVEDUCKK

[Eggy]

That was a good post if you had correctly voted him.

third times the charm

[Unknown1234]

third times the charm

It would be easier if we didn't have to keep telling Duck to leave 😂😂😂

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Sorry.

Sheep?

apparently you cant walk and post on this forum because it constantly logs you out. Anyways 2 miles later.

Your play is garbage as every alignment:

If you are town you are doing nothing and only causing people to tunnel on you
If you are the cop you are drawing me to tunnel you for being useless and are throwing
If you are mafia you are just going to die.

I don't know nor care what meta bullshit you think you are doing, but either focus or get the fuck out.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Actually rereading the interactions of unknown and eggy, it does not look it is an informed town interacting with a town, but more like a SvS/WvW.

Eggy Unknown for the scum team.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

rereading the entire game since I am alone.

The only people who have not sucked and put an effort into moving the game forward seem to be secondpassing and whad.

EVERY other person who has posted has posted absolutely ZERO, no content of substance, throw it all in the trash/delete it.

Now I have to figure out who sucks, who is trolling, and who the scum is. Might even have to just yolo assume sp/whad are town and not playing well as mafia based off of how bad everyone else is.

If you cant tell, I am still very angry about my fucking phone logging out 10 times trying to walk and post, and then deal with the retard gallery.

[Unknown1234]

Sorry Duck, but lol it's the second page and you expect top efforts and shit. Fuck you.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

There is a difference between trolling early in the game and hindering town.

If I thought we had room for error, I would be pushing a policy lynch on you.

[Unknown1234]

Probably because you know I'm helpful in the future and there are better targets.

Actually, nah, I'm not really hindering town more than trolling and I am aware of what I'm doing. I do understand your pain though Ducky.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Normally I wouldn't care, but this game I am going to be extra tryhard.

Assuming I am playing relatively non donkey this game:

Mafia is forced to either kill me or gamble on who the cop is in the night.

If they kill me and I am NOT the n0 check ( if the cop ever checks me they are dumb and we deserve to lose) then the cop is alive tomorrow with 2 (hopefully) two town checks and its 3 confirmed town with 7 alive and we have 3 lynches to kill into the 4 unconfirmeds (75% chance to win with any lynch).

If they do not attack me, I probably form a town circle and solve the game via poe. If they miss the cop then town probably just gets auto right at the start of day 2 assuming you believe I am town. If they hit the cop, I still solve the game.

Pretty much from my POV, there is no time or reason to engage in early game trolling with this setup.

[Unknown1234]

This is the same setup as the one before, except minor tweaks such as:

Cady knows one of the Good Girle.

There is a investigative instead of a busdriver.

Other than that, it's still a 7v2 with technically two confirmed towns. I'm waiting for more people to engage, but until then I'm fine being Unknown.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

This is the same setup as the one before, except minor tweaks such as:

Cady knows one of the Good Girle.

There is a investigative instead of a busdriver.

Other than that, it's still a 7v2 with technically two confirmed towns. I'm waiting for more people to engage, but until then I'm fine being Unknown.

What do you think about both of the people voting on me. Whether the player themselves or their reasoning for voting me.

[Whad]

Normally I wouldn't care, but this game I am going to be extra tryhard.

Assuming I am playing relatively non donkey this game:

Mafia is forced to either kill me or gamble on who the cop is in the night.

If they kill me and I am NOT the n0 check ( if the cop ever checks me they are dumb and we deserve to lose) then the cop is alive tomorrow with 2 (hopefully) two town checks and its 3 confirmed town with 7 alive and we have 3 lynches to kill into the 4 unconfirmeds (75% chance to win with any lynch).

If they do not attack me, I probably form a town circle and solve the game via poe. If they miss the cop then town probably just gets auto right at the start of day 2 assuming you believe I am town. If they hit the cop, I still solve the game.

Pretty much from my POV, there is no time or reason to engage in early game trolling with this setup.

From your POV, you can be scum and have this suit your purposes well too. Also, first you have to be read as town by people in order to be part of a town circle.

This is the same setup as the one before, except minor tweaks such as:

Cady knows one of the Good Girle.

There is a investigative instead of a busdriver.

Other than that, it's still a 7v2 with technically two confirmed towns. I'm waiting for more people to engage, but until then I'm fine being Unknown.

I'm less bothered by Unknown's behavior at this point. I'm still keeping an eye on the shifty guy but I do appreciate how he's doing productive things like calling lurkers like Stereo to the forefront.

[Whad]

@Stereo I literally just saw you browsing this thread. When you get back, can you please tell me the three players you find the most suspicious and why?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

From your POV, you can be scum and have this suit your purposes well too. Also, first you have to be read as town by people in order to be part of a town circle.




I'm less bothered by Unknown's behavior at this point. I'm still keeping an eye on the shifty guy but I do appreciate how he's doing productive things like calling lurkers like Stereo to the forefront.

Well from my pov I cant be scum, but I get what you are going for. I don't see how trying to generate discussion ever favors me as scum. At best I get town read, but I can do that just playing as I always do. If I am scum I cant possibly be night killed so it doesn't really matter for "my" decision on who to kill in the night.

[purebe]

I can't read duck because he's in my head but if I had to guess I would think he's vanilla town wifom'ing cop who is subtly hinting he's vanilla town.

I get a strong town read on Eggy but that's because I think his posting is much more positive and different than his mafia posting which is subjective and probably a stupid assumption but there you go. I follow Whads reasoning regarding duck but I know in my hearts of heart duck would fake claim cop if he was scum.

Struggling to find a good read on other people at the moment, I lean towards reading Unknown town though.

[Stereo]

@Stereo I literally just saw you browsing this thread. When you get back, can you please tell me the three players you find the most suspicious and why?

I've asked Frog to replace me. Unforeseen circumstances have came up, and it is better for the game that I am taken out.

[Stereo]

-unvote

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

No worries stereo, take care.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I can't read duck because he's in my head but if I had to guess I would think he's vanilla town wifom'ing cop who is subtly hinting he's vanilla town.

I get a strong town read on Eggy but that's because I think his posting is much more positive and different than his mafia posting which is subjective and probably a stupid assumption but there you go. I follow Whads reasoning regarding duck but I know in my hearts of heart duck would fake claim cop if he was scum.

Struggling to find a good read on other people at the moment, I lean towards reading Unknown town though.

How the fuck do you know my mafia(game not alignment) play so well when you don't even play the game.

Also, how the fuck do you know what WIFOM is?

"I can't read duck because he's in my head"

I initially thought this was mafia purebe flustered because he hears me cackling on skype about finding all 3 mafia on the mod on day 1 and getting called a hacker. However, he also knows I fake claim cop every single game and makes me think the entire post is towny now.

[Mesk514]

Hiya all, I'm in class so please forgive me for errors and such...
I mentioned this before I went to bed, ducks flip flopping is always something that makes it hard for me to read him. His play is consitent for when he's town but its also just a scummy play. Until I enter the head of duck, I will never know what stimulates this thought process... I have him as null / town lean

Whad, can you please give me some setup speculation for old times sake? Every time I've scum read whad (even when he was town) he was always stuck on something within the setup & his minor fixation had me fixated on him. Because there is none of that yet I'm a little surpirsed. Whad is a full null

Stereo I hope whatever going on with you is all good, i'll miss you !!!

Eggy hasMt come in with a lurking game so that's like the biggest PING for me. His attitude seems a little hostile tho. Towards unknown, I understand.... but DUCK? why would anyone want to be mean to duck? He's the worlds sweetest person

/null lean scum